Since SDE was released, who wants to build some fresh and shiny android which might be running someday side by side with AVOS (Archos Android)?
What do we need (openembedded?)?
Installation of Other OS:
root: /mnt/storage/rootfs.img
kernel:
Reboot into Recovery Mode (howto)
Recovery System -> Developer Edition Menu -> Flash Kernel and Initramfs
Connect USB and copy "zImage" and "initramfs.cpio.gz" to the Archos
Unmount Archos on PC (safe remove)
Press ok on Archos
Don't you think dev's are already working on this right now?
OpenAS is a site to look at, there are a few in fact and some even on XDA.
your instructions are sort of nothing anyone who has booted the angstrom distribution can see that?
this thread is a bit pointless. your asking for devs to create something they are already working on and you can't help as you don't know how?
no, you just missed the point. I AM (or want to be) a dev, see my other thread about dvb-t support
and now I'm looking for some help and informations.
this thread should be dedicated to building gen8 android (2.2 / 2.3 / ...) roms, I don't care much about angstrom.
I'm not one of those annoying guys who just complaining about others work, I want to get my hands dirty and do some work! I already checked openaos out, there a lot of informations about gen6 and gen7 but not gen8, this is why I started this thread here.
summarizing informations, that's the point.
ok fair enough
it's more likely though someone will do a port and use it over the current android system as apposed to using the SDE. Most dev's will be concentrating on other O/S's such as Ubuntu etc.
I can see why you want to do it but im not sure it will be done this way. We havent even managed to get perm root yet, sadly the archos wont get a lot of love I fear.
we have perm root, just use SDE and put an android in it we can decide everything
edit: either you hack the gen8 and get rid of SDE and archos' android and put whatever you want on it or you stay with SDE and dual boot (sounds a less "brickable" choice to me)
chulri said:
no, you just missed the point. I AM (or want to be) a dev, see my other thread about dvb-t support
and now I'm looking for some help and informations.
this thread should be dedicated to building gen8 android (2.2 / 2.3 / ...) roms, I don't care much about angstrom.
I'm not one of those annoying guys who just complaining about others work, I want to get my hands dirty and do some work! I already checked openaos out, there a lot of informations about gen6 and gen7 but not gen8, this is why I started this thread here.
summarizing informations, that's the point.
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I have no idea what you're talking about, but I say go with your dreams and keep up the good work (whatever work that may be).
Don't let anyone tell you you can't do it (whatever "it" may be). Any contribution to making my A70 better is a + in my book.
chulri said:
we have perm root, just use SDE and put an android in it we can decide everything
edit: either you hack the gen8 and get rid of SDE and archos' android and put whatever you want on it or you stay with SDE and dual boot (sounds a less "brickable" choice to me)
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But it's pointless having android 2.2 / 2.3 running alongside android 2.2 / 2.3
it would be a complete waste of time especially as archos are currently working on it anyway.
It would achieve nothing, the SDE would be much better used running ubuntu/winxp or other, running android as a secondary boot option is a waste of development time and I cant see anyone wanting to do it?
by all means join in getting a good distro to run but not another version of android when all we are missing is root anyway. I think your getting confused as to what SDE is used for.
why would someone want to run ubuntu on this hardware? winxp is out of scope as it doesn't support arm processors.
waz000000 said:
by all means join in getting a good distro to run but not another version of android when all we are missing is root anyway. I think your getting confused as to what SDE is used for.
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why shouldn't we have root in SDE?? The SDE is the only way (so far, gen8 hasn't been hacked yet) to get perm root and custom roms.
why won't you just use SDE to run custom android roms? why it has to be ubuntu or any other bloated linux distribution?
waz000000 said:
But it's pointless having android 2.2 / 2.3 running alongside android 2.2 / 2.3
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no it's not, because archos won't let us do customizations. it would be easy for archos to let us perm root everything but they won't. so what are you going to do to make android comfortablier and less buggy on gen8? a) hack it and flash custom roms and may brick it or b) use sde and flash custom roms without the possibility to brick it
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no it's not, because archos won't let us do customizations. it would be easy for archos to let us perm root everything but they won't. so what are you going to do to make android comfortablier and less buggy on gen8? a) hack it and flash custom roms and may brick it or b) use sde and flash custom roms without the possibility to brick it
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Agreed, who cares if you have more then one build of Android on a device? On other devices people have developed their own method of doing this exact thing. SDE is a great idea to let people load custom ROMs onto their device without fear of bricking. Now if someone would just get one developed....
chulri said:
no it's not, because archos won't let us do customizations. it would be easy for archos to let us perm root everything but they won't. so what are you going to do to make android comfortablier and less buggy on gen8? a) hack it and flash custom roms and may brick it or b) use sde and flash custom roms without the possibility to brick it
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Archos have released the source code, the only thing that's missing is Root.
The distro is already pretty close to stock even the BT stack is android native allowing us to use wiimote etc.
Archos have done a pretty "pure" android release Cynogen's goal is get a pure android rom working. Stock it's not that far away now?
and what about ISO, windows 7 (mobile), tiny linux, yellow dog, many other great distro's. All im saying is wait until root is achieved (it's being worked on) nd see what happens to the default android then.
Your may be jumping the gun a bit developing something that's not needed
waz000000 said:
But it's pointless having android 2.2 / 2.3 running alongside android 2.2 / 2.3
it would be a complete waste of time especially as archos are currently working on it anyway.
It would achieve nothing, the SDE would be much better used running ubuntu/winxp or other, running android as a secondary boot option is a waste of development time and I cant see anyone wanting to do it?
by all means join in getting a good distro to run but not another version of android when all we are missing is root anyway. I think your getting confused as to what SDE is used for.
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was agreeing with you until this post.
the point is that Archos have up until now done a bit of a shoddy job of their Android builds. We all want the archos tablet running smoothly and as best we can and also would like to have 2.3+ on our devices which is probably unlikely by any official means.
and saying archos are "currently working on it" is a little silly given what forum you are on! (whats the point in people making custom roms for HTC devices... HTC are working on it anyway?!)
@wazalotofzeros
oh come on, are you kidding me? why is it so hard to understand that a rooted android or even custom roms are wanted by a lot of archos users (see archosfans.com)
whats the point of installing any linux distribution instead of android?
why are you telling me its pointless to do custom roms for the Archos Gen8 while there are custom roms for a lot of other android devices?
I give up, please contribute something useful to this topic or stop posting offtopic.
@waz000000,
don't want to participate in this then don't. There is no reason to put down others work though just because you think it is pointless.
Grand Idea
Personally I think this is a grand idea. At first when I saw the SDE I thought that was its whole purpose and that archos would start us off with a basic android version. But when it was released and it came with a barely working linux distro, it turned me off to installing SDE until something better can happen. I wouldn't mind seeing a micro version of ubuntu running on this, but the main problem is going to be the ram. If we are having issues with the ram on android what makes you think we will have better luck on a OS that wasn't intended to run on the archos. But hey more power to you. But on the other hand if we can build our own android firmwares, then we won't be dependent on Archos to decide whether or not to update to the next firmware. And saying Archos is working on it is like saying well the end of the world is coming. When IDK, but its coming!
Seriously. The delayed the launch by 2 months and then didn't deliver on their promise of launching with 2.2. They did come through, but with the crappiest 2.2 firmware I have ever used. Constant crashing, no wifi N, 200 mhz decrease in speed, and only a promise to fix it... eventually.
So the the OP. Go for it. I will help with what I can, but I haven't build a firmware yet except for the easy cook it yourself ones.
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They did come through, but with the crappiest 2.2 firmware I have ever used. Constant crashing, no wifi N, 200 mhz decrease in speed, and only a promise to fix it... eventually.
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new firmware came out today! works great on my A101, no crashes or freezes so far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875393
laptopfreek0 said:
So the the OP. Go for it. I will help with what I can, but I haven't build a firmware yet except for the easy cook it yourself ones.
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Me neither but I'm willing to do if nobody else does, simply because of my DVB-T project in the other thread
€dit I'll give cyanogenmod a try
thefunkygibbon said:
was agreeing with you until this post.
the point is that Archos have up until now done a bit of a shoddy job of their Android builds. We all want the archos tablet running smoothly and as best we can and also would like to have 2.3+ on our devices which is probably unlikely by any official means.
and saying archos are "currently working on it" is a little silly given what forum you are on! (whats the point in people making custom roms for HTC devices... HTC are working on it anyway?!)
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ok fair enough so what would you rather?
a cynogen mod with archos firmware or linux distro (Whatever) and cynogenmod?
im not saying dont work on a custom rom, im saying work on a "proper" custom rom and use the dual boot option for something other than android.
1st step develop root
2nd step develop custom rom
3rd step install another distro
What im trying to say is, develop a "proper" custom rom and leave the dual boot option for something mind blowing!
as to blazingwolf im not trying to put anyone's work down (apart from the fact there isn't any yet this is pure concept)
I could very easily help you develop a working second rom for this but all im saying is wait a little while and see what happens I cant hint anymore than that!!!!!!!!
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I could very easily help you develop a working second rom for this but all im saying is wait a little while and see what happens I cant hint anymore than that!!!!!!!!
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who does what and when it gets released?
in the mean time have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610303
i know its different hardware but use a cynogen beta like the I9000 as a base, and work from there, even try the original firmware and look to cook that one.
you will be surprised how almost stock the archos one is
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Personally I think this is a grand idea. At first when I saw the SDE I thought that was its whole purpose and that archos would start us off with a basic android version. But when it was released and it came with a barely working linux distro, it turned me off to installing SDE until something better can happen. I wouldn't mind seeing a micro version of ubuntu running on this, but the main problem is going to be the ram. If we are having issues with the ram on android what makes you think we will have better luck on a OS that wasn't intended to run on the archos. But hey more power to you. But on the other hand if we can build our own android firmwares, then we won't be dependent on Archos to decide whether or not to update to the next firmware. And saying Archos is working on it is like saying well the end of the world is coming. When IDK, but its coming!
Seriously. The delayed the launch by 2 months and then didn't deliver on their promise of launching with 2.2. They did come through, but with the crappiest 2.2 firmware I have ever used. Constant crashing, no wifi N, 200 mhz decrease in speed, and only a promise to fix it... eventually.
So the the OP. Go for it. I will help with what I can, but I haven't build a firmware yet except for the easy cook it yourself ones.
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the purpose of SDE is to give users a way to dual boot and be able to load "another" operating system. The Angstrom image we provide is just a demo and nothing else. You are free to put anything else, like Android 4.0, Meego, Maemo or whatever else you want...
is there other firmware to upgrade gen8 archos rather than upgrading to urukdroid or stock gen8 os?
Hey,
You could upgrade to other firmware, but none of theme would work propably
there are:
-->Kubuntu Mobile
-->Honeycomb
-->Ubuntu
-->Urukdroid
-->Stock Os
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Red - Very early developement stage / not many tests
Green - High (>4/5 months) developement stage / many tests
So other Os's maybe work in future but at this time theres only one really good:
Urukdroid
Try it
Moved as not android development.
Hey, i have a question here, is there a tutorial to make a new one? or a kitchen like for some devices? (this could help us to make more choice ^^)
eagleofdeath13 said:
Hey, i have a question here, is there a tutorial to make a new one? or a kitchen like for some devices? (this could help us to make more choice ^^)
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No there isn't something like this..
Would you like to do this?
I would like to use it and make a new rom if it exist ^^
Does anyone know if the Cyonogen Mod Android ROM is good to go on an Archos 101 and if so how I would go about installing it. I have been using this rom on my ZTE blade and love it.
Many thanks.
Would be great to have cyanogenmod on the Archos 80/101 gen9.
You can not install any cyanogenmod rom. Somebody must port a special version for the archos, and that is a lot of work, I think. But would be great if somebody would do it.
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using XDA
That's a shame.
What do people think is the best alternate rom for a 101 G8?
Porting CM to Gen9 is possible but:
-using separate partition for system is still in closed beta
-porting requires a lot of work- we would have to use some of Archos proprietary binaries/libraries/etc just to make system to work properly and modify system so they work flawlesly (believe me, dealing with closed source files is a pain in the a**)
I have just the bootanimation of the CM9 on my Archos 101 ...
Was reading up on some tech articles and processes for installing an Android OS on a MS windows 10 phone and most had notes attached that the process was out of date and no longer worked. They also suggested inquiring in the xda forums, so here I am.
Picked up the phone sunday to replace my busted android but less than happy with windows 10 mobile and feeling caged in with what apps I can install. We originally looking into trying to install the windows version that included project asperia but none of the processes have been working for me and have not been able to pair my phone with the programs to instal APK files. (Bootstrapping error 8).
Than I saw videos of android OSs being installed and wanted to look into that possible path for my X3. Any help I can get towards that I would appreciate greatly.
quite literally what im looking for too
May be this helps?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OW88UTTDug
Thanks jwoegerbauer - The YouTube video is exclusively for Android migrations on NOKIA Windows phones: Lumia 520/1/5/6, 620 & 720 (the kid is real good too !) However, REAL HELP is needed for HP Elite users.
Hoping there are dev mavens out there working on a solid ROM for the HP Elite X3 . This is a very cool & powerful device. Aside from giving it the life it deserves, it would be a wondefrul flip of the bird to M/S for the pain they bestowed on the tech community..
the linux driver exist. https://gitlab.com/msm8996-mainline/linux-msm8996
the secureboot fall exist https://gus33000.me/2019/01/05/secureboot-flaw-for-all-wp-devices-literally/
i don't know why any people developped a root or other. The X3 is always a performer machine.
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the linux driver exist. https://gitlab.com/msm8996-mainline/linux-msm8996
the secureboot fall exist https://gus33000.me/2019/01/05/secureboot-flaw-for-all-wp-devices-literally/
i don't know why any people developped a root or other. The X3 is always a performer machine.
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Thank you so much dAV84 for the very technical info.
I've done several upgrades on droid devices (tablets mostly) to give them new life courtesy of the XDA community (better ROMs, etc). The X3 is a slightly different Wondering if there are some high-level steps you could provide as the best method to make this a useful device with the material/links provided.
Best,
JR
ranjo364 said:
Thank you so much dAV84 for the very technical info.
I've done several upgrades on droid devices (tablets mostly) to give them new life courtesy of the XDA community (better ROMs, etc). The X3 is a slightly different Wondering if there are some high-level steps you caould provide as the best method to make this a useful device with the material/links provided.
Best,
JR
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hei, did you succeed? i dont find a way to do it... dammed! such a good unit without possibilities to install android on it
thanks for confirming... desperately looking for it...
apg1983 said:
hei, did you succeed? i dont find a way to do it... dammed! such a good unit without possibilities to install android on it
thanks for confirming... desperately looking for it...
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Hi APG, sadly, no reponse. Still hoping some DEV or group will take this on . Such an incredible device. I'll gladly contribute if that's what it takes.. JR
Have anyone managed to follow this: https://gus33000.me/2019/01/05/secureboot-flaw-for-all-wp-devices-literally/
I couldn't follow it at all.
For example:
Install developermenu.efi. This can be completed by exploiting access to file system in some manner (e.g. via SSH, MTP or File Explorer). I use the File Explorer approach on Windows 10 Mobile 10586 to backup/replace resetphone.efi. I do not recommend using MTP due to its inherent flakiness. Detailing how to do this is out of scope for this blog post, but remember: Interop Unlock requires Windows 10 Mobile 14393 or earlier so a reflash will most certainly be required.
I couldn't install the developermenu.efi, no instructions for it even following the link, it doesn't help.