So far, Motorola's best response to us betrayed Photon owners was that they would buy our devices back for $100. After my initial excitement of Motorola's unending generosity died down, I realized that $100 isn't so generous after all.
-- Sprint will give you $63 for your phone.
-- Samsung will give you $75 for your phone. samsungupgrade.com
-- HTC will give you $75 for your phone. htctradeup.com
-- As of 10/2 used Photons are selling on ebay in good condition for more than $100 (search past listings for Photon 4G)
Essentially, excluding what you can get if you go to the trouble of selling your Photon on ebay, Motorola is giving us an extra $25, since they are requiring us to send in a device that does have some value elsewhere. Is $25 enough for you to stay a Motorola customer? That is certainly up to you. But you should at least be aware that other major phone manufacturers are not far off, and may very well provide better support.
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So far, Motorola's best response to us betrayed Photon owners was that they would buy our devices back for $100. After my initial excitement of Motorola's unending generosity died down, I realized that $100 isn't so generous after all.
-- Sprint will give you $63 for your phone.
-- Samsung will give you $75 for your phone. samsungupgrade.com
-- HTC will give you $75 for your phone. htctradeup.com
-- As of 10/2 used Photons are selling on ebay in good condition for more than $100 (search past listings for Photon 4G)
Essentially, excluding what you can get if you go to the trouble of selling your Photon on ebay, Motorola is giving us an extra $25, since they are requiring us to send in a device that does have some value elsewhere. Is $25 enough for you to stay a Motorola customer? That is certainly up to you. But you should at least be aware that other major phone manufacturers are not far off, and may very well provide better support.
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Thanks for the info. If I stay with Android (in spite of horrendous fragmentation), I go back to HTC. If not Android, I'll reconsider WP8 (had used WinMo up until 1.5 years ago).
I love my Photon HW, so really a shame what Moto has done.
I called Sprint and walked into a store asking if the Motorola credit was offered on top of the $63 they give you. They said they are not aware of any Motorola credit.
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refer them to this: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/ci/documents/detail/2/motorola-jelly-bean-rebate_en-US
Is it even a credit?
I don't know if getting your rebate is contingent on it or not but on the website they bring up "If your phone is not updated to Jelly Bean we don't want you to miss out." Does this mean that they won't give the rebate if they do update your phone to JB?? Not sure, but I'd watch how they word their rebate contingencies.
It also requires you to purchase, or upgrade to another Motorola. So it's not really a credit, lol. You have to give up your phone, PLUS get another moto device, just to be eligible. I'll never go back to moto simply because they've started doing the stupidest thing ever and designed all they're new phones with built in batteries, my arch nemesis!! lol. They can keep they're money, and I'll keep my atrix.
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Agreed ...
It's not 100$ credit but they are actually making you to spend another/more bucks for upgrade ... why we upgrade if they failed to update
I've bought few months back then why i upgrade and spend more bucks for the same failed brand ...
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Could somebody copypasta this info into the Official Support My Moto Campaign Thread? I've been at it for almost 20hrs and am really starting to pay for it.
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Could somebody copypasta this info into the Official Support My Moto Campaign Thread? I've been at it for almost 20hrs and am really starting to pay for it.
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As requested, I have copy and pasted it.
I'm probably switching carriers, and probably going to get another Moto device. I love the radio/antenna/whatever it is that helps with reception, and the feel and build quality. I'm loving the way the droid razr maxx hd looks. I'm loving the other carrier at the moment. I know they screwed us on the Photon, but for the new phones they already seem to be doing better. Samsung took over a year to upgrade Epic 4g to gingerbread. They appear to have learned from that as the galaxy s3 looks to be getting JB before too long. Moto upgraded the Razr to ICS a couple months ago, and the Razrs are all supposed to get JB by the end of the year. The Photon Q is one of the three phones on the first round of devices that get officially unlocked bootloaders. You have to go to a website and enter a device ID to get the files, or something like that. But it has the unlockable bootloader like the developer edition. I know VZ hates unlocked bootloaders, but other than the RAZR maxx, I'll be looking at the next nexus devices. I don't dev much anyway. I have always like stock kernels with custom ROMs. They have always seemed more stable to me anyway.
I guess my point is this bad experience isn't enough for me to give up on Moto, because I'm not willing to go back to flimsy loss of signal phones, and I think in the future they'll be better. Just takes some time for them to get their crap together with the problems and then the Google purchase.
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I'm probably switching carriers, and probably going to get another Moto device. I love the radio/antenna/whatever it is that helps with reception, and the feel and build quality. I'm loving the way the droid razr maxx hd looks. I'm loving the other carrier at the moment. I know they screwed us on the Photon, but for the new phones they already seem to be doing better. Samsung took over a year to upgrade Epic 4g to gingerbread. They appear to have learned from that as the galaxy s3 looks to be getting JB before too long. Moto upgraded the Razr to ICS a couple months ago, and the Razrs are all supposed to get JB by the end of the year. The Photon Q is one of the three phones on the first round of devices that get officially unlocked bootloaders. You have to go to a website and enter a device ID to get the files, or something like that. But it has the unlockable bootloader like the developer edition. I know VZ hates unlocked bootloaders, but other than the RAZR maxx, I'll be looking at the next nexus devices. I don't dev much anyway. I have always like stock kernels with custom ROMs. They have always seemed more stable to me anyway.
I guess my point is this bad experience isn't enough for me to give up on Moto, because I'm not willing to go back to flimsy loss of signal phones, and I think in the future they'll be better. Just takes some time for them to get their crap together with the problems and then the Google purchase.
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Unfortunately for Sprint users many of your pluses don't apply. I haven't had a good signal in at least 4 months. I keep hearing the wonderful line "we're doing networks upgrades so there's nothing we can do ". The other day it took 7 minutes to make a phone call when I had a strong signal showing.
In addition to that the photon is now 2 OS upgrades behind. Many of us purchased a Motorola phone because of the promised upgrades. Piss poor customer service makes many of us quite hostile and unwilling to forgive the lies.
I guess I didn't realize that you had to turn your phone in to get the $100. That is pretty worthless then.
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I called Sprint and walked into a store asking if the Motorola credit was offered on top of the $63 they give you. They said they are not aware of any Motorola credit.
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Sprint wouldn't be. It's not a Motorola credit, it's a Verizon credit.
To qualify, you have to trade in your phone, as others have said... and you have to buy a Verizon-exclusive Motorola smartphone. The plan will be fully realized by the end of the month -- it is not currently available in any case. But I imagine it will actually be done through Verizon. That is, you sign up for service, buy the phone, and Verizon gives you the Motorola form, and you mail in your proof of purchase, the barcode from the phone box with ESN/IMEI, and your Photon/Atrix/Electrify, and Motorola mails you $100 (in the form of a Visa/MC gift card with nasty fees of course!). US Cellular does a similar song and dance with its rebates. BTW, US Cellular has a standard rebate of $100 off a new smartphone. This can vary but that's the usual amount. Although their advertised prices are minus this rebate, so you pay the advertised price plus $100 up front and get the $100 in two months. I was lucky and got an instant rebate sale -- Electrify for $150 out the door. At tax time. Yeah, I scored. :victory:
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Sprint wouldn't be. It's not a Motorola credit, it's a Verizon credit.
To qualify, you have to trade in your phone, as others have said... and you have to buy a Verizon-exclusive Motorola smartphone. The plan will be fully realized by the end of the month -- it is not currently available in any case. But I imagine it will actually be done through Verizon. That is, you sign up for service, buy the phone, and Verizon gives you the Motorola form, and you mail in your proof of purchase, the barcode from the phone box with ESN/IMEI, and your Photon/Atrix/Electrify, and Motorola mails you $100 (in the form of a Visa/MC gift card with nasty fees of course!). US Cellular does a similar song and dance with its rebates. BTW, US Cellular has a standard rebate of $100 off a new smartphone. This can vary but that's the usual amount. Although their advertised prices are minus this rebate, so you pay the advertised price plus $100 up front and get the $100 in two months. I was lucky and got an instant rebate sale -- Electrify for $150 out the door. At tax time. Yeah, I scored. :victory:
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I really need verification on this! If anybody has a PDF or screencap PM me. If this is true then we may be able to step things up a bit.
Hello,
I got absurdly lucky and sold my Photon for $250. I included a 32gb SD Card, and Otterbox Defender. I still cannot believe I got that as Sprint offered me $67 for it. I am still so pissed about ICS as I actually was going to hold on to the phone even though I purchased an iPhone 5.
Cheers,
JJ
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I've been using custom ROMs on my Touch Pro (GSM) for quite a while. It's my understanding that GSM and CDMA phones have different crack/root methods. The international Galaxy S phones are all GSM right now until Verizon and Sprint release theirs, correct? Does this mean that the root process and the ROMs in the Galaxy S forum that are already there will not work on the CDMA Galaxy S phones that are launching shortly? (in other words, the CDMA version hasn't been rooted and the bootloader is uncracked still, right?)
Anyone following the current instructions for rooting a Galaxy S with the CDMA version about to come out could permanently brick their phone, I presume?
Only time will tell. Looked at the galaxy s root method and its simply a root kernel flashed. I don't know if it will have to be modded for the fascinates software and hardware change but I hope not. as far as the euro version the boot loader is open. Lets hope it stays that way. Or I'm off to HTC
As I understand it will have to be modded becuase kernels for CDMA & GSM are very different, but I think that Samsung is going to be releasing these phones with unlocked bootloaders, so they should be very easy to root, which is a really good thing because that touchwiz UI is just horrible.
Honestly I would rather have touchwiz and Bing than a locked down phone. You can always install adw or launcherpro and maps to replace Bing
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Honestly I would rather have touchwiz and Bing than a locked down phone. You can always install adw or launcherpro and maps to replace Bing
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Yeah. If there is still no release date announced for the Fascinate by Thursday evening, I am cancelling my Droid X pre-order at Best Buy. I'm only picking up a Droid X if I can use it and then change to the Fascinate when it comes out, assuming the date is less than 30 days from the X launch
I'm going to buy, and stick with, the Fascinate either way. Screw Motorola and their Apple-like "locking down" mantra.
i feel the same way wont buy another motorola phone even if it comes out with a 12mp camera prints money and has the omap4430. dont want my phones locked down
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Yeah. If there is still no release date announced for the Fascinate by Thursday evening, I am cancelling my Droid X pre-order at Best Buy. I'm only picking up a Droid X if I can use it and then change to the Fascinate when it comes out, assuming the date is less than 30 days from the X launch
I'm going to buy, and stick with, the Fascinate either way. Screw Motorola and their Apple-like "locking down" mantra.
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There is no way verizon is going to say the release date before the droid x comes out, because it would hurt sales for the Droid X. What I am going to do is purchase the droid x and use it. There is a very good chance they will tell the release date between now and 30 days from now. If the release date is within a reasonable time frame then I will return the droid x at the 30 day mark and hold out for the fascinate. If not, I will be sticking with the droid x. Yes you have to pay a $35 restocking fee, which in itself is absolutely ridiculous, but I would much rather have a phone that I am happy to have for 2 years than a phone that I would want to get rid of within the year.
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There is no way verizon is going to say the release date before the droid x comes out, because it would hurt sales for the Droid X. What I am going to do is purchase the droid x and use it. There is a very good chance they will tell the release date between now and 30 days from now. If the release date is within a reasonable time frame then I will return the droid x at the 30 day mark and hold out for the fascinate. If not, I will be sticking with the droid x. Yes you have to pay a $35 restocking fee, which in itself is absolutely ridiculous, but I would much rather have a phone that I am happy to have for 2 years than a phone that I would want to get rid of within the year.
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Aye, exactly what I'll be doing. I only hope the Fascinate comes out within 30 days of the Droid X.
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Aye, exactly what I'll be doing. I only hope the Fascinate comes out within 30 days of the Droid X.
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Yep hopefully, it will make my decision a lot easier. The one only reason I would go with the Fascinate is because of it being unlocked. I love the hardware on the droid x, but I want to be able to run Ubuntu and other OS's off of it. I plan on using my phone like a laptop basically.
ritkit said:
There is no way verizon is going to say the release date before the droid x comes out, because it would hurt sales for the Droid X. What I am going to do is purchase the droid x and use it. There is a very good chance they will tell the release date between now and 30 days from now. If the release date is within a reasonable time frame then I will return the droid x at the 30 day mark and hold out for the fascinate. If not, I will be sticking with the droid x. Yes you have to pay a $35 restocking fee, which in itself is absolutely ridiculous, but I would much rather have a phone that I am happy to have for 2 years than a phone that I would want to get rid of within the year.
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Is this guy serious!!! Does no one at all have a clue as to why they have a restocking fee? First off the exchange policy used to be 14 or 15 days or something like that. Now that its 30 a lot more people probably return phones and now that phones cost so much more than they used to it is likely Verizon did this just to put a slight reduction in the amount of returns.
Do you think they resale that phone you return? Do you think Motorola just gives them the money back for it? How about Definitely not for answer 1 and probably not for answer 2 I used to work for a company that sold pioneer elite products they had a no refund policy to us meaning even if it was defective. So what happens to a phone when you blatantly misuse the refund exchange system? Well I would guess that every single plastic/metal exterior part is replaces and it is used for a refurbished unit when someone thinks there perfectly fine phone is broken.
Soooo.... what is the end result? I pay more for my phone and my service because Verizon's cost is artificially raised by someone who just lacks either understanding or ethics. If you are one of these people which one are you? After reading this and you still do it you are the later.
Do not think that renting a phone is your right. What right do you have to ruining a $500 phone? Are you engadget are you writting a big review? Why don't you just save $35 save Verizon and its customers $500 and wait for the Samsung to come out.
I bought the X yesterday before finding out that it is super locked down when I receive it in the mail today I will choose one of 2 options. ... I will return it without activating it or I will use it until the samsung comes out then I will give it to my girlfriend since she doesn't care about rooting except that it makes everything on her phone pink (she will live without).
If you want the samsung get the samsung just wait for it. Also the correct game plan for Verizon would be to put the phone about 45 days outside the droid x launch. It would stager their sales and reduce the chance exchanges for the droid x. We will see what happens but who knows.
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Is this guy serious!!! Does no one at all have a clue as to why they have a restocking fee? First off the exchange policy used to be 14 or 15 days or something like that. Now that its 30 a lot more people probably return phones and now that phones cost so much more than they used to it is likely Verizon did this just to put a slight reduction in the amount of returns.
Do you think they resale that phone you return? Do you think Motorola just gives them the money back for it? How about Definitely not for answer 1 and probably not for answer 2 I used to work for a company that sold pioneer elite products they had a no refund policy to us meaning even if it was defective. So what happens to a phone when you blatantly misuse the refund exchange system? Well I would guess that every single plastic/metal exterior part is replaces and it is used for a refurbished unit when someone thinks there perfectly fine phone is broken.
Soooo.... what is the end result? I pay more for my phone and my service because Verizon's cost is artificially raised by someone who just lacks either understanding or ethics. If you are one of these people which one are you? After reading this and you still do it you are the later.
Do not think that renting a phone is your right. What right do you have to ruining a $500 phone? Are you engadget are you writting a big review? Why don't you just save $35 save Verizon and its customers $500 and wait for the Samsung to come out.
I bought the X yesterday before finding out that it is super locked down when I receive it in the mail today I will choose one of 2 options. ... I will return it without activating it or I will use it until the samsung comes out then I will give it to my girlfriend since she doesn't care about rooting except that it makes everything on her phone pink (she will live without).
If you want the samsung get the samsung just wait for it. Also the correct game plan for Verizon would be to put the phone about 45 days outside the droid x launch. It would stager their sales and reduce the chance exchanges for the droid x. We will see what happens but who knows.
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I would have considered returning the Droid X simply because something better is coming out and I decided I would rather have it than the Droid X. I thought that was the point. I can see your point though, if you know for a fact that you will want this other phone and are "renting" the DX that is pretty low.
At the same time, so what. Verizon ultimately has to remain competitive with the other carriers, and I have a hard time imagining that the very small percentage of the overall market who "rents" phones that have to be sold as refurbished are artificially increasing your price that much. I could be wrong.
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I would have considered returning the Droid X simply because something better is coming out and I decided I would rather have it than the Droid X.
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Oh, also I am going to return the Droid X within 30 days and wait for the Fascinate. I was hoping to like the Droid X and didn't even consider the Fascinate, but I've had problems with the Droid X hardware and software so far and have buyer's remorse pretty bad right now.
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Is this guy serious!!! Does no one at all have a clue as to why they have a restocking fee? First off the exchange policy used to be 14 or 15 days or something like that. Now that its 30 a lot more people probably return phones and now that phones cost so much more than they used to it is likely Verizon did this just to put a slight reduction in the amount of returns.
Do you think they resale that phone you return? Do you think Motorola just gives them the money back for it? How about Definitely not for answer 1 and probably not for answer 2 I used to work for a company that sold pioneer elite products they had a no refund policy to us meaning even if it was defective. So what happens to a phone when you blatantly misuse the refund exchange system? Well I would guess that every single plastic/metal exterior part is replaces and it is used for a refurbished unit when someone thinks there perfectly fine phone is broken.
Soooo.... what is the end result? I pay more for my phone and my service because Verizon's cost is artificially raised by someone who just lacks either understanding or ethics. If you are one of these people which one are you? After reading this and you still do it you are the later.
Do not think that renting a phone is your right. What right do you have to ruining a $500 phone? Are you engadget are you writting a big review? Why don't you just save $35 save Verizon and its customers $500 and wait for the Samsung to come out.
I bought the X yesterday before finding out that it is super locked down when I receive it in the mail today I will choose one of 2 options. ... I will return it without activating it or I will use it until the samsung comes out then I will give it to my girlfriend since she doesn't care about rooting except that it makes everything on her phone pink (she will live without).
If you want the samsung get the samsung just wait for it. Also the correct game plan for Verizon would be to put the phone about 45 days outside the droid x launch. It would stager their sales and reduce the chance exchanges for the droid x. We will see what happens but who knows.
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You make some good points, and it irritates me when people return a product because it didn't overclock as much as they'd thought, or that they flashed an unofficial update that bricked it, or something else. But, with a phone, there's no way you're going to put that device through its paces to know if its right for you after playing with it for 10 minutes at the store. I don't think an All Sales are Final policy would be a good idea, personally. Can't speak for everyone, but if I knew I couldn't return a phone, I'd wait weeks before purchasing it for reviews and user experiences to proliferate.
You hit the nail on the head with staggered launches though. I'd rather see high end phones launch every 6 months or so so that I've always got something to look forward too when my contracts run short.
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Is this guy serious!!! Does no one at all have a clue as to why they have a restocking fee? First off the exchange policy used to be 14 or 15 days or something like that. Now that its 30 a lot more people probably return phones and now that phones cost so much more than they used to it is likely Verizon did this just to put a slight reduction in the amount of returns.
Do you think they resale that phone you return? Do you think Motorola just gives them the money back for it? How about Definitely not for answer 1 and probably not for answer 2 I used to work for a company that sold pioneer elite products they had a no refund policy to us meaning even if it was defective. So what happens to a phone when you blatantly misuse the refund exchange system? Well I would guess that every single plastic/metal exterior part is replaces and it is used for a refurbished unit when someone thinks there perfectly fine phone is broken.
Soooo.... what is the end result? I pay more for my phone and my service because Verizon's cost is artificially raised by someone who just lacks either understanding or ethics. If you are one of these people which one are you? After reading this and you still do it you are the later.
Do not think that renting a phone is your right. What right do you have to ruining a $500 phone? Are you engadget are you writting a big review? Why don't you just save $35 save Verizon and its customers $500 and wait for the Samsung to come out.
I bought the X yesterday before finding out that it is super locked down when I receive it in the mail today I will choose one of 2 options. ... I will return it without activating it or I will use it until the samsung comes out then I will give it to my girlfriend since she doesn't care about rooting except that it makes everything on her phone pink (she will live without).
If you want the samsung get the samsung just wait for it. Also the correct game plan for Verizon would be to put the phone about 45 days outside the droid x launch. It would stager their sales and reduce the chance exchanges for the droid x. We will see what happens but who knows.
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I'm so glad to see this. Way too many people return phone for phone knowing they will never keep phone #1. That is wrong - there is no other way of looking at it. Verizon will let you sit there and play all day on a phone to try it out - there is no necessary reason for someone to have to go home to try your possible new phone. If you make a purchase and come to realize that there is something you just can't live with... then you have a viable reason to make an exchange. If not... maybe try to live with a little honor and respect in your life?
Don't be that guy... that guy is a loser.
- AdamZ
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I'm so glad to see this. Way too many people return phone for phone knowing they will never keep phone #1. That is wrong - there is no other way of looking at it. Verizon will let you sit there and play all day on a phone to try it out - there is no necessary reason for someone to have to go home to try your possible new phone. If you make a purchase and come to realize that there is something you just can't live with... then you have a viable reason to make an exchange. If not... maybe try to live with a little honor and respect in your life?
Don't be that guy... that guy is a loser.
- AdamZ
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AdamZ.... I miss you ( Smoked Glass used to be my favorite ROM. Where you been man? How ya been? haha. Are you gonna pick up a Fascinate?
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Oh, also I am going to return the Droid X within 30 days and wait for the Fascinate. I was hoping to like the Droid X and didn't even consider the Fascinate, but I've had problems with the Droid X hardware and software so far and have buyer's remorse pretty bad right now.
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Funny to look back at some of these old posts...
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Roland Deschain said:
Yeah. If there is still no release date announced for the Fascinate by Thursday evening, I am cancelling my Droid X pre-order at Best Buy. I'm only picking up a Droid X if I can use it and then change to the Fascinate when it comes out, assuming the date is less than 30 days from the X launch
I'm going to buy, and stick with, the Fascinate either way. Screw Motorola and their Apple-like "locking down" mantra.
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They can get away with that with the majority of the sheeple - who think apple is the greatest.
Well I have an upgrade coming Sept.11th. I am trying to decide between the inc2 and the droid bionic. What do you guys think? The specs on the bionic are awesome the only real issue I have with the bionic is the fact that the bootloader may never be unlocked, it does have root however. Being able to tinker with my phone is a must have. There is no 4g in my area so that really isn't an issue, I am fine with 3g.
znel,
For some info on the Bionic (I haven't been there myself but it sounds impressive), this guy has posted some reviews and 24 videos of it.
http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-bionic-reader-review-continues-dozens-videos
Also, the Samsung Fascinate sounds like a really nice phone too, and the upgrade cost for it right now is $39 (though that may be for a refurb, can't remember).
Hope you like whatever you get. I've got another 6 months before my upgrade is available.
personally i like sense ui (just cant get away from how smooth it is), so if 4g wasnt an issue, id probably take the inc2 (was actually my first choice till i heard that LTE was amazing for verizon). dont get me wrong, the bionic looks amazing and for about 2-3 weeks i was dead set on buying that till i realized that the price for it is kinda outrageous for me. $299.99 is too much for a phone in my opinion. the x2 is actually a better option in my opinion at $199.99 if u dont have 4g and dont plan on getting it for future preparation.
now im more interested in the thunderbolt mainly due to such a huge dev community. my upgrade is coming up on the 23rd so i gotta prepare. also amazon has the thunderbolt for upgrade with $119.99 on individual plan or $179.99 on family plan ($0.01 if new contract -_-)
Android police or Androidcentral also said that Amazon is offering the Bionic at $179 for upgrade also, but if you like Sense better, stick with something you like. Or you can prob. get an Sony Experia Play pretty cheap for an upgrade, if that gets your interest up. It seems to have a pretty active developers group on here too.
pretty sure its $249 for upgrade for both individual and family plans on amazon. the $179 price is for new verizon customers i think
My wife and I are up for an update as of tomorrow. Has anyone upgraded using newegg or any other place along that line? Dinc2 is free with upgrade and tbolt is $119 with upgrade. Sweet deals and I'm not sure I'll get close to that thru Verizon.
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Details here: http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/1...-smartphone-and-you-may-qualify-for-100-back/
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Old news, actually, and it's useless since you're out of pocket for the full cost and they'll reimburse you whenever (could be weeks, months later). Motorola blew it with this ICS fiasco and screwing people in the process. It's already been worked out that the so-called $100 rebate thing works out to like $25 or so in the long run, and it's just a joke overall.
You'll note that page linked above says "we’re planning to roll out Android 4.1 Jelly Bean to most of our devices first offered for sale in 2011 or later." and was just updated today, yet there is another page that's been up for weeks now that says the same thing but doesn't use the words "most of our" so, it's Motorola being stupid again. And it's not some damned typo either, but they can't be held to their own word and I and many other people are simply done with them for the most part.
I own a Photon and it'll be the last Motorola hardware I ever put actual cash into owning because of their flipflopping and basically lying to people over this whole situation.
If they want to give me a RAZR MAXX HD for all this crap, fine, I'd be happy to own one I suppose (even in spite of the many failings it has), but that's a foregone conclusion at this point.
Also, they changed it again apparently: originally it was going to be cash back to you in the form of a check and now they added that second section:
Provided in the form of a Verizon Wireless Gift Card, Motorola Visa Prepaid Card, carrier credit, or other equivalent at Motorola’s sole discretion.
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If it ain't actual cash in the pocket, it's pretty much useless to me.
Now it looks like we could only buy photon q if you stick with sprint
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motorola no more
This is total BS. They came up with win-win solution. Sell more new phones making $100 less in profit on each, and make it a lame excuse for eliminating upgrade development costs. This is such a blatant disregard of the existing customers. How is it possible that a phone released on August 19, 2011 became and stayed outdated exactly 2 months later, when ICS was announced on Oct 19, 2011
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Funny... I just posted a comment on the motorola-posts-list-of-phones-not-receiving-jelly-bean-confirms-which-phones-will-get-the-update page of the droid-life . com site. I said that JB upgrade table looks like ICS upgrade table a year ago. The one that got edited in Q3 2012 with Photon 4g no longer in it. My post stayed visible for 30 seconds and then was promptly removed
No real surprise, they can't even get the entire division on the same page, literally: one place says "most phones offered in 2011 and later" (which by using the word "most" gives them some room to maneuver with) and another page says "phones offered in 2011 and later" which means every phone they released in 2011 and up to this point in time.
That really irks me for some reason, it's the literal interpretation of the left side of the mouth doesn't know what the right side is saying.
Why even worry about that BS buyback program? If you have a MoPho, you're on Sprint and you have nothing coming from Motof**k. And the fact is, if you really want ca$h for your device, you'll get $150+ from eBay. Instead of whini g, we should do what we can to supportmymoto.com
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JohnH4 said:
Why even worry about that BS buyback program? If you have a MoPho, you're on Sprint and you have nothing coming from Motof**k.
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Well, no, I'm not on Sprint, and many people like me aren't either considering the Photon is unlockable for domestic GSM use in the US (even though Sprint really didn't/doesn't like that happening). I use T-Mobile without issues, and I didn't get this phone from Sprint either so for me, Sprint is 100% irrelevant in this situation.
As for selling it, I've got mine listed on craigslist for $100 right now because I don't deal with eBay/PayPal and their ripoff tactics, plus I'd prefer cash in the hand but, still no bites. Sooner or later someone will most likely contact me about it - I mean a dual core smartphone for $100... what's not to love?
I'm just curious as to whether I'll be able to trade my Photon for $100 toward a Verizon Moto phone; if they'll allow me to get the rebate while crossing carriers. I'm done with Sprint in March when my contract comes up, but I still love Motorola. Not even sure if I'd need to root, as the main two reasons I root are for free hotspot and titanium backup, and I didn't even use titanium backup last time I went back to stock. I do love the Razr Maxx HD for its battery life and screen, and I still like Moto for the quality and reception.
^ Motorola doesn't care if you cross carriers. You just have to send in your Photon. So as long as you buy the new phone, they don't care. I'd leave under good terms, they might not honor the rebate if the ESN is bad. So yes, you could trade it towards a Verizon phone.
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I'm just curious as to whether I'll be able to trade my Photon for $100 toward a Verizon Moto phone; if they'll allow me to get the rebate while crossing carriers. I'm done with Sprint in March when my contract comes up, but I still love Motorola. Not even sure if I'd need to root, as the main two reasons I root are for free hotspot and titanium backup, and I didn't even use titanium backup last time I went back to stock. I do love the Razr Maxx HD for its battery life and screen, and I still like Moto for the quality and reception.
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100 bucks is a horrible trade in value
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What if you could apply it towards an HTC instead?
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100 bucks is a horrible trade in value
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Not when your phone has cracked housing and scratched screen and you are very definitely in a Verizon area with not a lot of Sprint customers (Arkansas used to be Alltel headquarters until VZ bought them). I've seen photons nearly identical to the condition of mine on ebay for 125. I won't be able to trade mine in until March when my contract is up and the phone will devalue further. At that time, if the phone is still in the same condition it is now, I might be able to get a few extra bucks off ebay or maybe Craigslist if I get someone stupid, but the convenience of just handing it to the VZ person and getting my 100 bucks off a RAZR MAXX HD beats the effort behind making an extra 10 to 20 bucks.
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Lokifish Marz said:
What if you could apply it towards an HTC instead?
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Just my personal taste... the Photon is my favorite phone I've ever had, and I have always liked the Moto smartphones (except for the QWERTY's) but I couldn't get them before because I was on Sprint. I didn't like my wife's HTC, and I didn't like my Epic 4g, my wife's Nexus S 4G, or my friend's Epic Touch. All had signal issues. The Photon is awesome with reception, and my buddy's Moto phones have always been the same.
I don't feel so betrayed by the lack of upgrade to ICS. The phone works fine until my contract is up and I can get away from Sprint.
Got the email today saying to trade in my phone for an eligible jb upgradeable device to get my $100 visa debit card. One thing I'm truly surprised by is it said buy the phone (only atrix hd for att) from anywhere brand new and send proof of purchase and the bar code from the box to get it. So maybe an ebay purchase would qualify? Anyone else get their "offer"? Not like I'm gonna take it, just wondering.
Hi, I am from UK but my Atrix is a A&T model and I have got the email too, I dunno whether to upgrade. Thinking carefully about it, I hope the email is not a sham
I think you can only motorola discount $100 if you buy new motorola phone after give old phone motorola
I really don't find it worth the risk. I feel like Moto needs to prove they have fixed their updating first. It'll be at least a year or two for me before I consider another Moto purchase.
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I get this mail on september 23rd : http://cdn.motorola-2.com/us/en/mot...-att/index.html?fwd_prod_id=MOTOROLA+ATRIX+4G
I'm in France....
NB: see this https://www.mototradeup.com/?q=start
It says "You must trade in your used phone in order to qualify."
Got the e-mail as well. I'm a good 6 months from being able to get a new phone on contract, and the current no-commitment price for an Atrix HD is $449. So I can either spend $349 to get an Atrix HD and have to give up my old perfectly usable Atrix, or I can spend about that much for a Xiaomi M2, get a better phone, and give the Atrix to my daughter.
In other words, Motorola can kiss my [CENSORED].
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Got the e-mail as well. I'm a good 6 months from being able to get a new phone on contract, and the current no-commitment price for an Atrix HD is $449. So I can either spend $349 to get an Atrix HD and have to give up my old perfectly usable Atrix, or I can spend about that much for a Xiaomi M2, get a better phone, and give the Atrix to my daughter.
In other words, Motorola can kiss my [CENSORED].
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I agree totally. I've moved on to skyrocket, but I will not give my atrix to motorola to get another motorola that will be outdated in a couple months.
Has anyone else noticed that AT&T has this phone listed as $440, if purchased off contract, but if you purchase via AT&T Next, it can be had for $340 and you get to pay over 20 months with no interest?
Seems like anyone who is paying for AT&T insurance, with its $200 deductible, should cancel immediately.
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Has anyone else noticed that AT&T has this phone listed as $440, if purchased off contract, but if you purchase via AT&T Next, it can be had for $340 and you get to pay over 20 months with no interest?
Seems like anyone who is paying for AT&T insurance, with its $200 deductible, should cancel immediately.
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Read this article http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff . But to break it down AT&T next just rips you off. You are better off paying full price for the phone. This is what I do, I take a subsidized phone one year than the next year buy off contract. In the end if you do the math it is more economical to use this approach. You should remember when you sign an AT&T contract they assume that you bought a premium smart phone and the subsidy is already built into your account. If you do not upgrade your phone every two years your paying extra, hence why some people like the t-mobile model because it separates the phone cost from the bill. This makes their business practices more transparent, not necessarily better.
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Read this article http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff . But to break it down AT&T next just rips you off. You are better off paying full price for the phone. This is what I do, I take a subsidized phone one year than the next year buy off contract. In the end if you do the math it is more economical to use this approach. You should remember when you sign an AT&T contract they assume that you bought a premium smart phone and the subsidy is already built into your account. If you do not upgrade your phone every two years your paying extra, hence why some people like the t-mobile model because it separates the phone cost from the bill. This makes their business practices more transparent, not necessarily better.
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Don't even need to read that article to know that AT&T Next is a rip off, for almost every phone offered. The $100 gap in pricing between list price and making the 20 payments (or you can just pay $340 up front), makes the LGOG a different issue all together. If you are paying $10/mth for AT&T insurance, which has a $200 deductible, at $14 months, you hit break even, between buying a new LGOG or getting a refurb replacement under the warranty plan. In this one case, it would be a financially sound idea, to simply plan to buy the LGOG for $340, instead of doing the warranty (if you damage your phone). Note that the price makes it cheaper than the 16GB N4, also (and you get LTE and a removable/upgrade able simcard).
I totally agree att next is a rip off
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I totally agree att next is a rip off
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It's worse than I anticipated. I checked with and AT&T rep (was considering buying a new phone for my daughter) and was told that I couldn't buy via AT&T Next because I didn't have an available upgrade. I asked about contract renewal and was told that each purchase via the plan required a renewed 2 yr agreement. No where in the on line documentation does it state that you must have an available upgrade, for the initial purchase and you must renew your 2 yr commitment, for each upgrade (it's clearly stated in the regular upgrade info). The rep just said "it's in there somewhere".
Actually ditched my LG OG today and signed up for AT&T Next (opened a line on my family plan). Picked up the HTC One, and couldn't be happier. Currently converting it to the Google Play Dev. Edition (international).
Can't wait to have a real solid stable Nexus-equivalent ROM on a beautiful piece of hardware. I was just beginning to love the OG too, but I was forced to stay with stock ROM due to how many phone calls (30+) I receive/make daily for work. The lurking modem issues on ROM's other than stock just made it super impractical.
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Actually ditched my LG OG today and signed up for AT&T Next (opened a line on my family plan). Picked up the HTC One, and couldn't be happier. Currently converting it to the Google Play Dev. Edition (international).
Can't wait to have a real solid stable Nexus-equivalent ROM on a beautiful piece of hardware. I was just beginning to love the OG too, but I was forced to stay with stock ROM due to how many phone calls (30+) I receive/make daily for work. The lurking modem issues on ROM's other than stock just made it super impractical.
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Most realistic post yet. I love ROMs too but i keep going back to stock as well, nothing like not having to worry about your phone randomly rebooting.
Due for an upgrade. Looking at the G2 and Note 3 when my local ATT store has it stocked! ampeeeddd