What is this "Google Play services" crap? - Motorola Droid RAZR

It all of a sudden started showing up on my phone in downloaded apps (where I first saw it). I saw it on my wife's Photon (Sprint) yesterday. Kept on deleting it but it kept coming back but eventually it stayed gone. Now it's on my phone (Razr Maxx)? Does anybody know what this crap is? Why is it on my phone? The icon looks like a puzzle piece with the Jelly Bean colors on it.

Maybe something that checks for app updates.
Probably harmless.
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Its something related to Google Play store, Android market Most probably..
Alright googled it says,
Its a platform developed by the Google Play store in android apps.
Its kind of .apk file which is a part of your system's image.. this file helps with the updates..
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It still would of been nice to be notified or let it be an option to have it installed. It showed up out of no where so I automatically assumed it was something NOT good!!
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Best guess is that it is something that was already there that had a name and or icon change.
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Thank Me Later said:
It still would of been nice to be notified or let it be an option to have it installed. It showed up out of no where so I automatically assumed it was something NOT good!!
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Read this PATIENTLY, it should clear all your doubts..
Google Play services is a platform delivered by the Google Play Store that offers integration with Google products, such as Google+, in Android apps. The Google Play services platform consists of a services component that runs on the device and a thin client library that you package with your app.
The Google Play services component is delivered as an APK through the Google Play Store, so updates to Google Play services are not dependent on carrier or OEM system image updates. Newer devices will also have Google Play services as part of the device's system image, but updates are still pushed to these newer devices through the Google Play Store. In general, devices running Android 2.2 (Froyo) or later that have the Google Play Store receive updates within a few days. This allows you to leverage the newest APIs for Google products and reach most of the devices in the Android ecosystem. Devices older than Android 2.2 or devices without the Google Play Store app are not supported.
The Google Play services component contains much of the logic to communicate with the specific Google product that you want to interact with. An easy-to-use authentication flow is also provided to gain access to supported Google products, which provides consistency for both the developer and user. From the developer's point of view, requesting credentials is mostly taken care of by the services component through calls to the client library. From the user's point of view, authorization is granted with a few simple clicks.
The client library contains the interfaces to call into the services component. It also contains APIs that allow you to resolve any issues at runtime such as a missing, disabled, or out-of-date Google Play services APK.
Still have doubts??

Thanks to everybody that posted info about this. It's good to know that everybody else is getting it and it's not harmful.

I disabled it when it auto installed and the market stopped working completely. I disallowed everything it wanted to access except wifi and the market worked again. So it doesn't need all those permission to work at least.
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Have you guys read the reviews for that app? There is some pretty funny stuff in there... :laugh:

Lol

Google equals android x equals play store
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Thank Me Later said:
It still would of been nice to be notified or let it be an option to have it installed. It showed up out of no where so I automatically assumed it was something NOT good!!
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Dont settle down yet Brother.
The Google Play Services got installed in my phone yesterday. I uninstalled it and it came back again. I uninstalled it again. Now the google play does not install any apps in my phone, it just gives the waiting bar.
All was working well without Google Play Services too, which means this Google anal excreta isnt necessary at all., I think they are pushing this in our phone, sure there is something hidden purpose in their anal mind.
The Start Up manager also shows it in startup, which was not there before.
All is all when you run the Google Play Services icon, it gives some three options, one is regarding ads management or something... all their feces are showing up.
How to deal with this problem?
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MichaelMcC said:
I disabled it when it auto installed and the market stopped working completely. I disallowed everything it wanted to access except wifi and the market worked again. So it doesn't need all those permission to work at least.
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Same thing brother. Can you explain more? Did you do it in Permissions Pro? and you disabled all the permissions except wifi connectivity, and everything works again?

Ketansa said:
Dont settle down yet Brother.
The Google Play Services got installed in my phone yesterday. I uninstalled it and it came back again. I uninstalled it again. Now the google play does not install any apps in my phone, it just gives the waiting bar.
All was working well without Google Play Services too, which means this Google anal excreta isnt necessary at all., I think they are pushing this in our phone, sure there is something hidden purpose in their anal mind.
The Start Up manager also shows it in startup, which was not there before.
All is all when you run the Google Play Services icon, it gives some three options, one is regarding ads management or something... all their feces are showing up.
How to deal with this problem?
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Same thing brother. Can you explain more? Did you do it in Permissions Pro? and you disabled all the permissions except wifi connectivity, and everything works again?
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I am rooted and use LBE Privacy Guard. Using it allows turning off anything for any app., Google Play Services is used for setting up and giving permissions to other installed apps. Although annoying having Google install apps without asking, it's really just part of Google Play Store. Part of the Google Play conversion from the Android Market.
But I still hate apps spying on me so LBE is the first app I install after a clean wipe.
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MichaelMcC said:
I am rooted and use LBE Privacy Guard. Using it allows turning off anything for any app., Google Play Services is used for setting up and giving permissions to other installed apps. Although annoying having Google install apps without asking, it's really just part of Google Play Store. Part of the Google Play conversion from the Android Market.
But I still hate apps spying on me so LBE is the first app I install after a clean wipe.
SCH-i905, Galaxy Nexus and RAZR.
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You know what? I froze the Google Play Services. And today installed the Youtube update. When I run it, it says "you cannot use this app without Google Play Services. And when I uninstalled the update, the previous version of the youtube works just fine like before. This is a serious privacy issue. They are definitely spying on us in deep darker levels.
Ok, so if you are recommending the LBE Privacy Guard, are you the developer? please give us the stable version.
If google is acting like crap(as I mentioned above) when I freeze the app, Wont it do the same if I use your LBE and tamper its activities?

I'd just leave it, it's most likely harmless.
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I Am Marino said:
I'd just leave it, it's most likely harmless.
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It is harmless, officially. But, their act to make it mandatory in illegal ways, tells us that there is something more ugly going on in the background.

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[Q] Remove app from Android Market 'My Library'

So I use the Amazon app store and GetJar for free 'paid' apps. Some of these apps are showing up in "My Library" on my Google Android Market account. Is there a way to remove them from the Android Market account?
One recent problem is Wave Launcher which used to be free on GetJar. I don't see it listed anymore on GetJar and I can't even buy it from the Android Market since it thinks it's already purchased (but declines the 'install' saying it's not purchased). A 'delete' button like in the Amazon app store library would solve all of this...
Short of changing google accounts, I don't see any options on how to fix this. Anyone have any ideas? The problem is on my market library, not my phone (I know how to remove market links, etc.). Thanks.
I to have this problem its very annoying their has to be a way to clean it up.
I actually used the 'report' app function on the google market and got a reply back. They have "forwarded your case to a specialist to begin working to resolve your issue as soon as possible". We'll see what comes of it. Amazon's app store has a simple delete button in that library. It doesn't seem like that would be too hard to implement.
did you ever get a reply for this?
would love to be able to remove all the apps i just simply try for the sake of testing and i want them gone.....
listen to your users G!
I believe Titanium Backup can do this if you are rooted.
sitlet said:
I believe Titanium Backup can do this if you are rooted.
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Go on...
You can "fix" market links with it by long pressing on the app in question.
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rommy667 said:
I to have this problem its very annoying their has to be a way to clean it up.
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On the website I don't see an option, but it is possible on your phone.
I am not sure if all versions of the play store have this option (I am using Jelly Bean 4.1.2):
When I open the play store on my phone I can remove previous installed apps from the list.
Go to: Play Store > My Apps > All
There you can remove an app by tapping the Ø icon
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On the website I don't see an option, but it is possible on your phone.
I am not sure if all versions of the play store have this option (I am using Jelly Bean 4.1.2):
When I open the play store on my phone I can remove previous installed apps from the list.
Go to: Play Store > My Apps > All
There you can remove an app by tapping the Ø icon
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Yeahp. It works.
I deleted some yesterday on my mobile, but they were still on my web "Other apps in my library".
Today, I deleted some again and reloaded the webpage. They disappeared.
Thanks for the tip.
Ok, maybe it needs some time to sync. Great it works!
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I have this issue as well--phone app has no provision for deleting the apps, on JB ROM.

Watch out!

Google has very silently pushed a new app to all android devices. Its called Google settings. Now I love android but this shouldnt be allowed it does not seem to do harm but lets let the devs see
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They didn't do a good job with it since it's obviously in the app drawer for all to see
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much
You can disable it by unchecking all of the read write execute in es file explorer. Or if you find an older version of the android market that is compatible with our phones. And the worse thing is it's not in the market at all it's just there.
I Personally think forcing a phone to silently install an app is wrong. Had it been a usual update that would have been smarter.
It lets you control all the google settings from one place. I for one think that's smart. Who cares if it's in your app drawer, hide it if you don't like it.
What version Google Play adds this? I haven't received it yet. I'm 100% stock and unrooted. My issue now is all of a sudden I am receiving double notifications from all my apps except gmail.
Edit. Never mind I have the app now just checked. Now if the double notifications would stop.
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This might explain it a little better
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tings-icon-its-just-google-play-services-3-0/
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The app doesn't do anything else other existing apps were not already doing. It simply aggregates all the Google settings into one cohesive place (although I feel that the 'account sync' area is better suited for this). It doesn't require any special permissions that are not already used by other Google apps.
If you do not want it either hide it like others have said or simply unlink your Google account from the device seeing that the only thing the app does is put the settings in one place and creates a platform to be able to give you MORE control over what other apps can access as far as Play Services functionality is concerned. This app is very welcomed.
Also if you are against them updating stuff without your consent, root and remove the play store -- that updates automatically as well. You're using a device that uses Google Apps as it's back end, this is expected.
Read the link ronnie posted to alleviate your concern.
Yeah but it shows how much proprietary we really don't have anymore..
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So when your Google Play app updates on it's own, that's wrong too? If it's a problem, go buy a Crapple.
Racer Of All said:
The app doesn't do anything else other existing apps were not already doing. It simply aggregates all the Google settings into one cohesive place (although I feel that the 'account sync' area is better suited for this). It doesn't require any special permissions that are not already used by other Google apps.
If you do not want it either hide it like others have said or simply unlink your Google account from the device seeing that the only thing the app does is put the settings in one place and creates a platform to be able to give you MORE control over what other apps can access as far as Play Services functionality is concerned. This app is very welcomed.
Also if you are against them updating stuff without your consent, root and remove the play store -- that updates automatically as well. You're using a device that uses Google Apps as it's back end, this is expected.
Read the link ronnie posted to alleviate your concern.
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See the play store is fine. when that updates, i get a notification of new terms and conditions, as well as it only happens with new OS releases or when i open the actual app. not radomly while im on the john or asleep.
Wasn't really a secret, they have been promoting for awhile now and there have been a few articles pre and post. It just compiles settings for their apps.
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It's a shame how many people are hating on this thread instead of seeing it for what it is. Anyways i made an app that fixes this issue in the app section and in the general I put the old og market that won't update by it's own.
Asadullah said:
It's a shame how many people are hating on this thread instead of seeing it for what it is. Anyways i made an app that fixes this issue in the app section and in the general I put the old og market that won't update by it's own.
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It's a shame how few people actually freaked out about it as opposed to the many people that really don't care.
leo72793 said:
See the play store is fine. when that updates, i get a notification of new terms and conditions, as well as it only happens with new OS releases or when i open the actual app. not radomly while im on the john or asleep.
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Did you actually read the terms you agree to every update? Because section 3 - Updates of the Play Store ToC state:
You may need to install updates to Google Play or related Google software that we introduce from time to time to use Google Play and to access or download Products. Products originating from Google may communicate with Google servers from time to time to check for available updates to the Products and to the functionality of Google Play, such as bug fixes, patches, enhanced functions, missing plug-ins and new versions (collectively, "Updates"). By using the Google Play store and installing these Products, you agree to such automatically requested and received Updates.
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Emphasis mine. Also, ignoring all that, what difference does it make if it asks you to agree? Your point was that you didn't want apps to update themselves. The play store does that, ergo it was a valid comparison.
As a matter of fact I would be more paranoid about the play store because those updates usually have new functionality. All this does is literally link you to setting screens that were already on your device and adds an area to give YOU more control cover what third party apps can access.
Looking at the dissection of the app on the link provided shows exactly what the app does. Which, by the way, the Play Services has been doing this ever since the play store launched with Android 2.2 and above (Source - Automatic Updates).
So my original advice stands, if you do not want this to continue, delete the Play Store.
TL;DR:
Play store agreement allows and makes it clear that automatic updates will happen.
App doesn't add new permissions, it links to existing menus.
This has been happening since Android 2.2 and it's nothing new.
Only way to stop it is to delete the Play Store.
eXplicit815 said:
So when your Google Play app updates on it's own, that's wrong too? If it's a problem, go buy a Crapple.
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Yes you are correct that updates from a already installed app that you chose.. I don't like the fact I didn't have the choice to choose that this got installed without me knowing . You don't know Wtf this app is ..
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thlinx said:
Yes you are correct that updates from a already installed app that you chose.. I don't like the fact I didn't have the choice to choose that this got installed without me knowing . You don't know Wtf this app is ..
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Well, you didn't really choose Google Play. It's preinstalled on your phone when you buy it. The fact that the "Settings" app was pushed to the phone automatically, and is only used to change settings for Google Apps, there's really not an alarm for concern. You actually agreed to it when you bought the phone and accepted the terms when setting it up.
Glad to see this thread. I was visiting someone yesterday and messing with their gnex (I maintain it for her, in a sense) and saw this green Google settings and started freaking out cuz it was unknown where it came from, and I could not find it in either /data/app or /system/app and therefore could not remove. Also, about the same time, the email app would no longer login or sync, saying invalid password. I though it possibly related, thought Google setting was something malicious. Now I know it's legit :good:
Thanks
From my Evo LTE, yup.
eXplicit815 said:
Well, you didn't really choose Google Play. It's preinstalled on your phone when you buy it. The fact that the "Settings" app was pushed to the phone automatically, and is only used to change settings for Google Apps, there's really not an alarm for concern. You actually agreed to it when you bought the phone and accepted the terms when setting it up.
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EXACTLY! Thank you!!
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eXplicit815 said:
Well, you didn't really choose Google Play. It's preinstalled on your phone when you buy it. The fact that the "Settings" app was pushed to the phone automatically, and is only used to change settings for Google Apps, there's really not an alarm for concern. You actually agreed to it when you bought the phone and accepted the terms when setting it up.
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I agreed to apps being installed on my phone without my knowledge???? I
Don't think so.. preapps already installed or the crap bloatware that's comes with the phone I remove is something I'm fully aware of, but if you think its fine by all means join the anti privacy bandwagon..
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It shows how our phones are being controlled by Google puppeteers in an open source market
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[Q] Google Play Store and other apps

Has anyone gotten google play store working? I tried following the steps from android cowboy but I get back to back errors for google services no matter what.
On a different note, is there a way to remove the ads/special offers for free?
Thanks,
Sean
sjh1022 said:
Has anyone gotten google play store working? I tried following the steps from android cowboy but I get back to back errors for google services no matter what.
On a different note, is there a way to remove the ads/special offers for free?
Thanks,
Sean
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Google play is a system apps so it's gonna need a rooted or modified rom with bootloader cracked. Same is needed to disable kindle offers.
So is there any good way of getting apps beyond side loading?
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Google play is a system apps so it's gonna need a rooted or modified rom with bootloader cracked. Same is needed to disable kindle offers.
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Only the second part is true. You can get the Google play store apk on any device, regardless of root or not.
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r3pwn said:
Only the second part is true. You can get the Google play store apk on any device, regardless of root or not.
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You can get it on the device, but it won't work. ... from experience. If you know how, ... do tell!
These are not the droids you're looking for.
evanladoux said:
You can get it on the device, but it won't work. ... from experience. If you know how, ... do tell!
These are not the droids you're looking for.
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Try this link.
Although it says Kindle Fire HD, ignore that. Ignore step 3. Also ignore anything that says about copying to /system/app.
Just install the apps in the order he has listed then install the "Vending.apk" (That is the Google Play Store). Please also note that you will most likely not be able to install apps from it. :/
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Try this link.
Although it says Kindle Fire HD, ignore that. Ignore step 3. Also ignore anything that says about copying to /system/app.
Just install the apps in the order he has listed then install the "Vending.apk" (That is the Google Play Store). Please also note that you will most likely not be able to install apps from it. :/
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Did you ever try 1mobile market?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.onemobile.lite.android
One way to get a lot of Android apps onto Kindle, until we get root.
These are not the droids you're looking for.
r3pwn said:
Try this link.
Although it says Kindle Fire HD, ignore that. Ignore step 3. Also ignore anything that says about copying to /system/app.
Just install the apps in the order he has listed then install the "Vending.apk" (That is the Google Play Store). Please also note that you will most likely not be able to install apps from it. :/
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lmao
Seems to me like there should be some kind of app you can run on your rooted android device to pull the apk. Then install the full version on the Kindle via sideloading.
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Better results
You'll get better results in the interim from installing:
a) 1MobileMarket
or
b) Aptoide
or
c) BlackMart Alpha (shh..)
Tinkering with Google Play Store components before we have root may be an exercise in futility.
The content of the link is quiet useful to me. Thank you for sharing. I decide to buy a licence. :good:
Anyone tried SNAPPEA TO passthru GooglePlay?
I saw a utility SnapPea that seems to allow a pass thru from a PC to Kindle Fire HDX for accessing GooglePlay. As I still have not ordered my HDX I was wondering if anyone has tried this.
Thanks in advance;
Big Al1 said:
I saw a utility SnapPea that seems to allow a pass thru from a PC to Kindle Fire HDX for accessing GooglePlay. As I still have not ordered my HDX I was wondering if anyone has tried this.
Thanks in advance;
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The SnapPea app that I just tested is a way to control your android device from a browser on your computer, similar to AirDroid. It does not allow access to Google Play for the Kindle. What it does do is help you to install an .apk file through the browser, but then we can do that already by allowing sideload anyway. So maybe you were thinking about something else?
The Gapps and Google Services Framework processes keep crashing. Any ideas?
Kindle Fire HD 2013
nudawa said:
The Gapps and Google Services Framework processes keep crashing. Any ideas?
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Same here.. Just bought a Kindle Fire HD 2013 and tried every possible attempt described on many how-to to get it rooted for Google Play. Nothing worked. Device current version is 11.3.0.5.
Tried the side load as well described for HDX. Gmail app works but that's about it.
Anyone succeeded on this version?
Thanks
marcello2k13 said:
Same here.. Just bought a Kindle Fire HD 2013 and tried every possible attempt described on many how-to to get it rooted for Google Play. Nothing worked. Device current version is 11.3.0.5.
Tried the side load as well described for HDX. Gmail app works but that's about it.
Anyone succeeded on this version?
Thanks
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I basically got pretty much every app to work except for Hangouts and Play Store. This includes everything from Voice to Gmail to Map to Google Earth to Google Plus to whatever. The key for me was to start with base configs that Android Cowboy posted, but then add bunch of dependencies from android 4.2.2 and update with latest version of backed up apps. For example, I have had to install Google Play Services 3.2.66 first and then was able to update to 4.0.31 after reboot. That version was required for Youtube to work properly (i.e. allow account sign-in). Things still crash sometimes, but it's not a huge deal.
Main thing is Youtube, Music, Gmail and Calendar are all working more or less ok. Chrome signed into my google account, but its not pulling down settings (bookmarks, open tabs from other computers, etc...). Google Plus crashes sometimes but works. Hangouts is clearly missing a dependency of some sort. I installed most things I could thing of from default Android 4.2.2 CM10.1 apps package and from backing up my phone (galaxy s4), but it's still no go. It would be nice to get that going as well. Oh well, Skype can cover most things there.
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oblomov said:
I basically got pretty much every app to work except for Hangouts and Play Store. This includes everything from Voice to Gmail to Map to Google Earth to Google Plus to whatever. The key for me was to start with base configs that Android Cowboy posted, but then add bunch of dependencies from android 4.2.2 and update with latest version of backed up apps. For example, I have had to install Google Play Services 3.2.66 first and then was able to update to 4.0.31 after reboot. That version was required for Youtube to work properly (i.e. allow account sign-in). Things still crash sometimes, but it's not a huge deal.
Main thing is Youtube, Music, Gmail and Calendar are all working more or less ok. Chrome signed into my google account, but its not pulling down settings (bookmarks, open tabs from other computers, etc...). Google Plus crashes sometimes but works. Hangouts is clearly missing a dependency of some sort. I installed most things I could thing of from default Android 4.2.2 CM10.1 apps package and from backing up my phone (galaxy s4), but it's still no go. It would be nice to get that going as well. Oh well, Skype can cover most things there.
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Wanted to confirm that I also have Google Voice working on the HDX 7 (since I rarely see people mentioning it as a Google App). Interestingly, I also got Talkatone working on the HDX with my Google Voice number, even though the app's FAQ plainly says that Google Voice will NOT work with it. As a result, as long as I have wifi, I can now easily use my Google Voice number to make and receive calls.
When I download apps from other sources (1mobile) they don't show up in the multi tasking bar. Anyone know of a multitasking app to fix this?
bdtao said:
When I download apps from other sources (1mobile) they don't show up in the multi tasking bar. Anyone know of a multitasking app to fix this?
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I'm using the paid version of floating toucher to access recent apps.
To get apps to show up on the stock multi tasking bar you have to open them from the stock home launcher.
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megathormic said:
I'm using the paid version of floating toucher to access recent apps.
To get apps to show up on the stock multi tasking bar you have to open them from the stock home launcher.
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Correct. The multitasking feature on the HDX is basically just the Carousel, with exactly the same shortcuts in exactly the same order. The only difference is it's hidden on the edge of the screen until you pull it up. So, just as apps launched from alternative launchers won't show up on the Carousel, they also won't show up on the HDX multitasking bar.

[Q] Android without Google

Hello,
I wish to use Android without Google. I mean, android without any google apps (gapps pack) installed just after flashing AOSP rom. I already identify and tested all alternatives apps of Google apps I used. I use already the alternative android market F-Droid. However, before use Android without Google, I want to know feedback of users that already do it. In particular about my question:
What are the constraints, bugs and disadvantages while using Android without Google installed?
Thanks
F droid is a good alternative but of course you have less apps
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jonathanxx1 said:
F droid is a good alternative but of course you have less apps
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yes, you have less apps
There are fewer apps, and they work great but you may need to look for other services to replace Google's unless you want to run the web apps (see Gapps Browser). An excellent choice is owncloud: see http://sufficientlysecure.org/index.php/2013/11/26/an-android-without-google/ for a short guide to replacing contact, calendar, todo and password sync.
I think the major downside is losing the advanced location functionality and push notifications available to apps that use Google Play Services. On the other hand your battery may thank you for not using it. Xmpp based messaging apps are a little battery hungry but not too bad. I've been using CM without Gapps for ages, and it works fine, but I'm hoping OmniROm will be more friendly.
jonathan and thmls : off initial topic
dab : nice feedback, great link
Android without Google (no gapps)
No Gapps project on XDA : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
Hi guys, has anyone seen a list of all Google apps and services that can be disabled or deleted? I love the skinned ROM on my phone and all the features, I've started disabling and uninstalling as much Google as I can.
Hey it's ridiculous to buy a Google android device and not use the apps that are considered the advantage of android on other OSes. But a good alternative to Google play is amazon appstore
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I disagree. When Google branded Android phones had a smaller market share, I would say there was more choice, you could avoid Google. Now that they dominate smartphone sales and change their policies it's different. It's becoming a monopoly and we are losing that choice.
Yeah I did try the Amazon app store, re-downloading it now to give it another go...
philippe734 said:
Hello,
I wish to use Android without Google. I mean, android without any google apps (gapps pack) installed just after flashing AOSP rom. I already identify and tested all alternatives apps of Google apps I used. I use already the alternative android market F-Droid. However, before use Android without Google, I want to know feedback of users that already do it. In particular about my question:
What are the constraints, bugs and disadvantages while using Android without Google installed?
Thanks
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a lot of paid apps with lvl license control wont work without gapps
Problems
From the author of the No Google apps project:
MaR-V-iN said:
Android without Google apps have several problems:
Some apps do not install because of missing Google Maps API
Some apps fc at startup bacause of missing Maps API or market license check issues
Some apps hardcoded links to several Google Apps and therefor fc or react unexpectedly on certain cases.
No access to Play Store (i tried nearly every alternative market, but nothing is as good for free apps as play store) Meanwhile, F-Droid provides nearly everything you need
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Why not just use 1Mobile Market. Completely legal play store alternative. Even has all the Google apps like maps and Google services if you so desire. (defeats the purpose I know). I went this route as I want total control of my devices. Google has got out of hand with their apps and Play Services Framework and whatever else they cram in. The apps on 1Mobile Market are more up to date than the Amazon App store also which sometimes can be multiple versions behind. So just flash AOSP, grab the 1Mobile Market APK (Google it) and go to town.
Sent from my Nexus 10

Truesmart + Playstore available?

Hi, I just received my Truesmart + today, and I tried to install the google playstore and while I was able to get the APK into the watch, after it installs the playstore it fails to open.
So basically whenever I press the playstore button it'd open for half a second and the whole program just vanishes like if it got reverted back to the homescreen..... Ive also downloaded several different version of playstore and havent had any luck either...
I was wondering if you guys know if its possible to even install the google play store and get it to run on this model??
The specs of my watch are:
Android Version: 5.1
Baseband version: MOLY.WR8.W1449.MD.WG.MPV5, 2015/08/24 16:00
Kernel Version: 3.10.72
Build Number: Omate_Truesmart+_V1.1
Custom Build Version: OUI 3.0
Please help me out, I dont want to end up with a brick =(
I am curious about this too (was supposed to get mine today but the mailman messed up) Did they not include the OStore or some sort of other app program? Are any apps preloaded?
You'll also notice that you can't add a Google account within Settings-> Accounts.
The only way around that so I'm actually able to add a Google account is by sideloading "Google Services Framework" & "Google Account Manager" (in addition to "Play Services").
However, even with these installed, Play Store still doesn't work - it launches but won't connect.
Hopefully a solution is found.
Until then, I'm fine with using my LG Watch Urbane 2nd Edition LTE.
Pre-installed Apps are pretty sparse:
> Phone
> SMS
> Exchange
> File Manager
> Browser
> Calendar
> Clock
> Gallery
> Downloads
> Contacts
> Search
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*UPDATE*
I've reached out to Laurent LePen (CEO of Omate) & told him the usual method of making the Play Store work (by sideloading the 3 Apps I mentioned) doesn't work on the Omate TrueSmart+. He said they're rolling out an update next week to fix that.
So hopefully, next week it'll work.
*fingers crossed*
Wow, releasing a watch without its own OStore supported seems like a big mistake. Their Facebook discussion also seems to suggest that they'll be pushing an update by the end of the year, so hopefully that holds true.
I was able to install Google search and google now launcher, but google play store won't work without "google play services" and I haven't found a version of that .apk that will not keep crashing on the Truesmart+
Since google play services keeps crashing, the play store stays on a "Checking Info" screen that keeps spinning and spinning...
Same issue here, obviously...
com.google.android.gms_8.4.89_(2428711-234)-8489234_minAPI21(armeabi-v7a)(240dpi).apk should be the correct version of Play Services, but it still crashes on me...
Does anyone have any newer versions of the Services Framework and Account Manager APK's?
Anyone, any updates?
Edit: There will be a firmware update this weekend which will pus the OStore... No Play STore, but at least it's something for now...
I just unboxed my truesmart+ today.
I think it is not useful without google service inside.
I can't sync my contact nor get my paid apps on it, it is really a bit disappointing.
KuwaK said:
I just unboxed my truesmart+ today.
I think it is not useful without google service inside.
I can't sync my contact nor get my paid apps on it, it is really a bit disappointing.
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There has to be a way we can get it on there...
SparkyRih said:
There has to be a way we can get it on there...
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Hurray~!
I rev an update today, I updated to V1.2. And the google play is inside!!!!!!!
I am now installing my APPs now.
KuwaK said:
Hurray~!
I rev an update today, I updated to V1.2. And the google play is inside!!!!!!!
I am now installing my APPs now.
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I thought they would put the OStore in the update, but this is even better!!!
Everything appears to be working great
Just curious, if Aptoide does the same thing as the Play Store, did we really need the Play Store? I'm away from my device so I can't test it, but it seems Aptoide has many of the same mainstream apps as the Play Store (Maps, YouTube, etc)
Could someone please answer my question re: Aptoide? Is this a viable alternative? (from a technical perspective, please no need to go into politics) Thanks.
proxy170 said:
Could someone please answer my question re: Aptoide? Is this a viable alternative? (from a technical perspective, please no need to go into politics) Thanks.
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Aptoide will work for free apps, if you install "My Paid Apps" from Aptoide you may also be able to install some of your paid apps as well. Aptoide's biggest drawbacks are much smaller number of apps, less security, sometimes apps do not get updated as often, not all paid apps will be accessible.
Another option is Amazon App Store.
proxy170 said:
Could someone please answer my question re: Aptoide? Is this a viable alternative? (from a technical perspective, please no need to go into politics) Thanks.
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Aptoide is a viable alternative to Google Play, but only if you are very careful and very skilled at being able to recognize and avoid trojanized versions of apps. The majority of people hosting apps there are well intentioned, I guess, but there are also a large number of maliciously modified apps to be found there, and cracked premium pay apps are included.
Using Aptoide over the Play Store, then, is not a good idea unless you are very skilled or have other means of avoiding Android malware mixed in with the many legitimate apps available there. If you get apps there that are really hosted there by their real original developers, for example, you can feel pretty secure.
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trent999 said:
Using Aptoide over the Play Store, then, is not a good idea unless you are very skilled or have other means of avoiding Android malware mixed in with the many legitimate apps available there.
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Thank you both for your replies! Referencing your statement above, if I download only the apps marked with a green shield marked "trusted" should I be ok? (Do I trust the trust mark?) I'm only looking for Maps, YouTube, SWApp, Gmail, Amazon Music, Pandora.
proxy170 said:
Thank you both for your replies! Referencing your statement above, if I download only the apps marked with a green shield marked "trusted" should I be ok? (Do I trust the trust mark?) I'm only looking for Maps, YouTube, SWApp, Gmail, Amazon Music, Pandora.
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You can download the .apk files from the play store by using this website: http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/.
This procedure should be safe and maleware free.
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