[Q] Samsung Galaxy GT-S5830i help needed plz - Galaxy Ace S5830i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I purchased my first smartphone just two months ago so I am very new to this. When I recieved my new phone I found that there was a lot of apps that I did not realy want but can't uninstall nor move to the SD card. I have read so much here and on other sites that "rooting" the device will give me better control over storage I would like to do this but not sure exactly what software I should use to do this.
Can anyone help plz,
My smartphone info is:
Samsung Galaxy Ace GT5830i
Android Version 2.3.6
Baseband Version S5830iXXLD2
Kernel Version 2.6.35.7 [email protected] #1
Build Number GINGERBREAD.XXLD3
PC/ Running Windows XP Home edition with Samsung Kies installed.

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well 1st u have to root ur phone..u can find it in this forum...i got d same phone...wekk i still cnt find a good custom rom...n yeah...aftr rooting ur can download link2sd app from google play...dis app can move apps to sd card...including whatsapp like app...:good:

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Hello, you can follow these instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552792
How to root Galaxy Ace s5830i.
1.Put update.zip in your main directory in the SD card.
2.Turn off your phone.
3.Boot in Recovery by pressingOWER+VOLUME UP+HOME buttons.
4.In Recovery select Install zip from sd
5.Choose update.zip
6.Reboot your phone and it's ready.There must be a Superuser icon in your Apps menu.
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ZakooZ said:
Hello, you can follow these instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552792
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Thanks guys for the above info, my next question is whats the best way to put "update.zip" file on to pnone SD card after downloading on to PC:
Is it best to:
Copy and paste file from PC to SD card with phone attached to PC using USB cable.
or
Move file to SD card using same set up as above.
or
Use a SD card adaptor fitted to PC USB and move or copy file to phone SD card fitted to adaptor.
Sorry for the above silly questions.

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soundacer said:
Thanks guys for the above info, my next question is whats the best way to put "update.zip" file on to pnone SD card after downloading on to PC:
Is it best to:
Copy and paste file from PC to SD card with phone attached to PC using USB cable.
or
Move file to SD card using same set up as above.
or
Use a SD card adaptor fitted to PC USB and move or copy file to phone SD card fitted to adaptor.
Sorry for the above silly questions.
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Ys its a silly question
As long as u r able to move the file....u cn use any f the methods...

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limaakum said:
Ys its a silly question
As long as u r able to move the file....u cn use any f the methods...
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Sorry for last silly questions, this is what I have done so far.
Fitted cable from phone to PC USB
SD files seen ok on pc, moved "update.zip" file from PC to phone SD card and disconnected phone from PC.
Powered up phone using: volume+home+power buttons.
Used volume up/down to select .zip file pressed home to install.
Rebooted phone and checked for "superuser icon" it was there so looks like my phone is rooted.
Downloaded and installed on phone "Link2SD" and it worked ok I could open all options, but still to partition my SD card, thats my next task.
I have downloaded "MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition v7.6" and installed on my PC ready to partition my SD card I have read a few posts here and other web sites to try and understand what format is best for my Phones SD card.
What is the best format to use: ext2 or ext3 ??
What is the best way to backup/reinstall apps that are on my SD card at the moment ??

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soundacer said:
Sorry for last silly questions, this is what I have done so far.
Fitted cable from phone to PC USB
SD files seen ok on pc, moved "update.zip" file from PC to phone SD card and disconnected phone from PC.
Powered up phone using: volume+home+power buttons.
Used volume up/down to select .zip file pressed home to install.
Rebooted phone and checked for "superuser icon" it was there so looks like my phone is rooted.
Downloaded and installed on phone "Link2SD" and it worked ok I could open all options, but still to partition my SD card, thats my next task.
I have downloaded "MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition v7.6" and installed on my PC ready to partition my SD card I have read a few posts here and other web sites to try and understand what format is best for my Phones SD card.
What is the best format to use: ext2 or ext3 ??
What is the best way to backup/reinstall apps that are on my SD card at the moment ??
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1. Use ext3 for sd-ext (2nd Partition)
2. Use Titanium Backup for backup & restore system/user apps along with many other useful options as well

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saeed14i said:
1. Use ext3 for sd-ext (2nd Partition)
2. Use Titanium Backup for backup & restore system/user apps along with many other useful options as well
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Thanks for that saeed14i
This is where I get a wee bit confused regarding formating you suggested ext3 but when you read the information for link2sd it says to format both partitions as FAT32 they say that ext2/ext3 may not work on all phones but FAT32 works on all, have I read this correctly ?
I downloaded "Titanium app" free edition and installed on my phone it runs fine after install but can you use this app to backup apps thats on the SD card to PC ?
At the moment I can't see an option to do this, have I missed somthing?

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soundacer said:
Thanks for that saeed14i
This is where I get a wee bit confused regarding formating you suggested ext3 but when you read the information for link2sd it says to format both partitions as FAT32 they say that ext2/ext3 may not work on all phones but FAT32 works on all, have I read this correctly ?
I downloaded "Titanium app" free edition and installed on my phone it runs fine after install but can you use this app to backup apps thats on the SD card to PC ?
At the moment I can't see an option to do this, have I missed somthing?
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1. Detecting ext3/4 depends on your kernel. But even if you are on stock 5830i firmware & kernel, link2sd will detect sd-ext even if it is ext2 format. If you are on Rafael Kernel, you can format sd-ext on ext3 or ext4. I recommended ext3, coz most people do that, and so far ext3 is reported to perform best without stressing much life out of your SD Card. I haven't ever tried formating sd-ext in fat32 or heard of someone doing that. So can't say if Fat32 is better than the ext file system or the other way around
2. You'll have to manually copy the backup you made in the "sdcard/titaniumbackup" folder in your SD card to Your PC. Whenever you want to restore that backup, simply put it back in same directory in SD card and run titanium restore process

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saeed14i said:
1. Detecting ext3/4 depends on your kernel. But even if you are on stock 5830i firmware & kernel, link2sd will detect sd-ext even if it is ext2 format. If you are on Rafael Kernel, you can format sd-ext on ext3 or ext4. I recommended ext3, coz most people do that, and so far ext3 is reported to perform best without stressing much life out of your SD Card. I haven't ever tried formating sd-ext in fat32 or heard of someone doing that. So can't say if Fat32 is better than the ext file system or the other way around
2. You'll have to manually copy the backup you made in the "sdcard/titaniumbackup" folder in your SD card to Your PC. Whenever you want to restore that backup, simply put it back in same directory in SD card and run titanium restore process
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Thanks for the pointers saeed14i
I have stock kernel, well its never been changed since I purchased the phone, the info on my phone tells me its Kernel version 2.6.35.7 dpl[email protected] #1. I will use as you sugested ext3.
I will follow yor instructions as regards backup method.
The phone I have has the original SD card (2gb) I have now purchased a new SD card (16gb) so I plan is to start backup of original SD and partition the new SD and start moving apps and hope all goes well.
Will post here as soon as I have completed or for further help, I hope all goes to plan lol.
Thanks again saeed14i

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soundacer said:
Thanks for the pointers saeed14i
I have stock kernel, well its never been changed since I purchased the phone, the info on my phone tells me its Kernel version 2.6.35.7 [email protected] #1. I will use as you sugested ext3.
I will follow yor instructions as regards backup method.
The phone I have has the original SD card (2gb) I have now purchased a new SD card (16gb) so I plan is to start backup of original SD and partition the new SD and start moving apps and hope all goes well.
Will post here as soon as I have completed or for further help, I hope all goes to plan lol.
Thanks again saeed14i
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You are welcome and good luck with ur plans ... One little correction in your post. As i explained earlier that default kernel will only recognize ext2. so format sd-ext in ext2 format to get it detected in link2sd on default firmware. ext3/ext4 is only detectable in custom kernel

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saeed14i said:
You are welcome and good luck with ur plans ... One little correction in your post. As i explained earlier that default kernel will only recognize ext2. so format sd-ext in ext2 format to get it detected in link2sd on default firmware. ext3/ext4 is only detectable in custom kernel
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Must have misunderstood, I shall use ext2 to format sd-ext.
I may not bother just now doing a backup of old 2gb SD card because the apps I have on there I can re-download when I have set up the new card so I may just delete these apps to get them of the system and start fresh, there not important apps anyway.
Sorry but I meant to ask what would be the best sizes for each partition when I format the 16gb SD card ?
Let me know what you think.

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soundacer said:
I purchased my first smartphone just two months ago so I am very new to this. When I recieved my new phone I found that there was a lot of apps that I did not realy want but can't uninstall nor move to the SD card. I have read so much here and on other sites that "rooting" the device will give me better control over storage I would like to do this but not sure exactly what software I should use to do this.
Can anyone help plz,
My smartphone info is:
Samsung Galaxy Ace GT5830i
Android Version 2.3.6
Baseband Version S5830iXXLD2
Kernel Version 2.6.35.7 [email protected] #1
Build Number GINGERBREAD.XXLD3
PC/ Running Windows XP Home edition with Samsung Kies installed.
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Presuming that you've managed to root and everything else ran smoothly, if you're still looking to remove some of that bloatware permanently, you can install es explorer and do that.
Sywped from my GT-I9300 running Omega v27.2 & franco.Kernel r19

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soundacer said:
Must have misunderstood, I shall use ext2 to format sd-ext.
I may not bother just now doing a backup of old 2gb SD card because the apps I have on there I can re-download when I have set up the new card so I may just delete these apps to get them of the system and start fresh, there not important apps anyway.
Sorry but I meant to ask what would be the best sizes for each partition when I format the 16gb SD card ?
Let me know what you think.
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1.5 - 2 gb i guess would b enough for sd-ext.
Sent from my GT-S5660 using xda app-developers app

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saeed14i said:
1.5 - 2 gb i guess would b enough for sd-ext.
Sent from my GT-S5660 using xda app-developers app
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Ooops!! I was too eager I made my sd-ext 4gb using minitool, will this cause a problem when I mount sd card and install apps ???

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soundacer said:
Ooops!! I was too eager I made my sd-ext 4gb using minitool, will this cause a problem when I mount sd card and install apps ???
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No problems except may b eventually low space issue on ur primary partition. Because sd-ext will not ever take 4gb space i guess so extra storage space may be wasted
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saeed14i said:
No problems except may b eventually low space issue on ur primary partition. Because sd-ext will not ever take 4gb space i guess so extra storage space may be wasted
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Yes saeed14i Understand what your saying but having 10gb or so on first partition will be ok in my situation as I will only be using for pictures etc and I am one of these guys that uploads pics to PC and does a clean up on a regular basis.
So this is how it stands now, Backed up my apps on the old SD card using "Wondershare MobileGo for Android" ready to reinstall on to 2nd partition of new SD card, formated and created partitions on new SD card using "MiniTool Partition Wizard home edition", I then used "Link2sd" to link apps that were on internal storage, reinstalled backed up apps using "Wondershare" they went straight to internal storage but linked to 2nd partition with no problems.
Note/ I did not link any system apps.
Was a bit confused at first when trying to link apps to 2nd partition as when you open an app in Link2sd it shows a window with info of app and some buttons and I thought you had to use the "move to SD card" but I realised you only use the "create link button", silly me.
As I said above I used "Wondershare MobileGo for Android" to do backup and found it worked well I liked the fact that you dont require your USB cable to attach your phone to PC you can use WiFi and that is what I used and it worked great.
Phone Internal storage before starting was 3.5mb free
After doing all of the above my internal storage is now 118mb free (well worth doing)
I will try and post some pictures at a later date once I get them sortd out.
The whole process of rooting, creating 2nd partition, backing up apps and linking apps to 2nd partition has went well, a big thanks to you saeed14i and other members who posted on this thread. I was very aprehensive before I satarted but being on xda has helped a lot.
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soundacer said:
Yes saeed14i Understand what your saying but having 10gb or so on first partition will be ok in my situation as I will only be using for pictures etc and I am one of these guys that uploads pics to PC and does a clean up on a regular basis.
So this is how it stands now, Backed up my apps on the old SD card using "Wondershare MobileGo for Android" ready to reinstall on to 2nd partition of new SD card, formated and created partitions on new SD card using "MiniTool Partition Wizard home edition", I then used "Link2sd" to link apps that were on internal storage, reinstalled backed up apps using "Wondershare" they went straight to internal storage but linked to 2nd partition with no problems.
Note/ I did not link any system apps.
Was a bit confused at first when trying to link apps to 2nd partition as when you open an app in Link2sd it shows a window with info of app and some buttons and I thought you had to use the "move to SD card" but I realised you only use the "create link button", silly me.
As I said above I used "Wondershare MobileGo for Android" to do backup and found it worked well I liked the fact that you dont require your USB cable to attach your phone to PC you can use WiFi and that is what I used and it worked great.
Phone Internal storage before starting was 3.5mb free
After doing all of the above my internal storage is now 118mb free (well worth doing)
I will try and post some pictures at a later date once I get them sortd out.
The whole process of rooting, creating 2nd partition, backing up apps and linking apps to 2nd partition has went well, a big thanks to you saeed14i and other members who posted on this thread. I was very aprehensive before I satarted but being on xda has helped a lot.
Back soon.
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However, even if you install link2sd
Some memory is consumed in internal storage
Whatever you do, you can't help it

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iamareebjamal said:
However, even if you install link2sd
Some memory is consumed in internal storage
Whatever you do, you can't help it
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With link2sd, U can uninstall useless system apps eg office viewer native email client etc to free internal storage. Complete list is provided by shankay in a. Seperate thread.u can also free space from data partion by moving apps like Facebook etc to SD card. And don't forget to clean app cache regularly
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saeed14i said:
With link2sd, U can uninstall useless system apps eg office viewer native email client etc to free internal storage. Complete list is provided by shankay in a. Seperate thread.u can also free space from data partion by moving apps like Facebook etc to SD card. And don't forget to clean app cache regularly
Sent from my GT-S5660 using xda app-developers app
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Totaly agree iamareebjamal and good point.
Yes saeed14i I will have a look for "shankay" post regards clean up of apps and yes I have been cleaning out cache on a regular basis :good:
I have put together some pictures of Rooting and Link2sd to poss help others.
The pic below is installing "update.zip"
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Below is picture of Lnk2sd storage info (had to do a bit of cut/paste to get all in picture)
*****Is it possable to increase system space, at 3% just now, and how would that be done ???*****
View attachment 1416511
Below is a picture of Link2sd apps info showing linked files:
View attachment 1416516
There has been no marked difference in battery use and I feel my phone is responding well with no hickups :good:
Will post other pictures soon with regards to other stuff I have done.