[Q] 2 x internal / 1x external storage (partition) - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hallo,
For a moth or so my Note runs on a Custom JB ROM.
and today i wanted to install the new TomTom app.
i requires me to download a additional 3.1 GB
but i says that theirs not enough memory available.
that's strange, i just put in a brand new 16gb SD card.
so i checked the storage info.
Internal 1,9GB
internal(second??) 11GB
SD-card 15GB
on default in installs apps on the fist Internal memory,
so if transferred i to SD.
BUT in transferred it to the Second internal memory instead of the SD-card.
so i checked the form and found out that i can change a file to mount de SD as internal,
but than i have 11GB of lost space on my phone,

bram2202 said:
so i checked the form and found out that i can change a file to mount de SD as internal,
but than i have 11GB of lost space on my phone,
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How this can be done? I would sacrifice only 1.8 GB.

tristone said:
How this can be done? I would sacrifice only 1.8 GB.
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You NEED to have root acces,
-install "Root Explorer"
-Open en go to Root/etc
-Open "vold.fstab" (with Text Editor)
you wil see
#internal SD card
dev mount sdcard0 /storage/sdcard0 11 /devices/platform/......
#extrenal Sdcard
dev mound sdcard1 /storage/sdcard1 auto /devices/.....
#internal: if you change the name from sdcard0 to sdcard1,
#extrenal: and on the sdcard1 to sdcard0
and reboot.
now it wil see the real extrenal SD card as a Internal, and its posible to install app on the card

I don't know anything about the 2nd internal storage you have but to directly install anything in the sdcard install link2sd from this link--
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5idWFrLkxpbmsyU0QiXQ..
then go to settings and change download location to external

karan128 said:
I don't know anything about the 2nd internal storage you have but to directly install anything in the sdcard install link2sd from this link--
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5idWFrLkxpbmsyU0QiXQ..
then go to settings and change download location to external
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Thas doen't work.
the problem is that the system and all of the apps sees the second internal memory (11GB) as sdcard0 and if i transfer a app it goes to this one and not the REAL extreme SD card (sdcard1)

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[Q] External SD card problem.

Hello,
I did bought orginal Samsung mincro SD card 32gb class 10. I did put inside to the phone and first what i did after phone did show me space 29gb i did format it from phone options in settings of storage. After format i did reboot my phone just in case. Now i did plug in phone to my pc and all do work fine. My pc see Internal and external storage on my phone. After when i did copy files to my external memory of my phone and do unplug micro usb i cant see my external sd card on my phone. In apps like winamp/RockPlayer/BSPlayer/ES File Explorer...all what i can see is only sdcrad which is internal memory. I cant see external memory at all.
Best thing is when i do put movie anywhere on external sd card by usb/pc and run build in samsung app "Video Player" its see video form external sd! I dont know whats going on and i did have S2/Dell Streak/Note and never had problem like this before.
Any help would be nice.
Open your file explorer,go to mnt in root folder there is your SD card
zodiaxe66 said:
Open your file explorer,go to mnt in root folder there is your SD card
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Problem is they dont show "Root" or "mnt" folder.
wgizmo said:
Hello,
I did bought orginal Samsung mincro SD card 32gb class 10. I did put inside to the phone and first what i did after phone did show me space 29gb i did format it from phone options in settings of storage. After format i did reboot my phone just in case. Now i did plug in phone to my pc and all do work fine. My pc see Internal and external storage on my phone. After when i did copy files to my external memory of my phone and do unplug micro usb i cant see my external sd card on my phone. In apps like winamp/RockPlayer/BSPlayer/ES File Explorer...all what i can see is only sdcrad which is internal memory. I cant see external memory at all.
Best thing is when i do put movie anywhere on external sd card by usb/pc and run build in samsung app "Video Player" its see video form external sd! I dont know whats going on and i did have S2/Dell Streak/Note and never had problem like this before.
Any help would be nice.
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[TOOL] DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req. - xda-developers
wind0zer said:
[TOOL] DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req. - xda-developers
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Thank you for link but i dont need data transfer. My problem si why i cant see external sd card in any of apps. When i do swich on winamp there is music from external sd card, when i do swich on build in video player i do see videos form external sd card but there is no way i can explore external sd card using any of explore apps or any other app where you can search files by folders. There is no Root folder or mnt.
Oki small update. I just did give a go to one more app "Root browser lite" and i can see all folders and sys files. Looks like problem is with moust of apps which can't handle way of G3 works with external sd card. I'm right?
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wgizmo said:
Oki small update. I just did give a go to one more app "Root browser lite" and i can see all folders and sys files. Looks like problem is with moust of apps which can't handle way of G3 works with external sd card. I'm right?
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Yes you're right. The s3 and other devices that have like 16/32 GB internal memory uses part of it for system and the rest is mounted as "sdcard"when infact it's internal memory. In addition to this sdcard there's the real sdcard which is mounted as external-sdcard. Many apps are programmed to look for only sdcard and not ext-sdcard. For such programs creating a symlink using the above tool that I posted will help it "see" contents/folders of the ext-sdcard.
As you mentioned some programs can and some can't browse/see ext-sdcard - if it's absolutely necessary, creating a symlink is the only option I can think of.

[Q] ACER Liquid Gallant E350 finds 2 SD-Cards, how to use the 2nd one?

Hi folks! I'm quite new to android so if this is a real noob question where i could have found the answer by myself by doing a little searching (which i did, without much luck) please delete this thread (or point me in the right direction )
I recently got an ACER Liquid Gallant E350 running ICS. According to the specs it should have 4 GB internal storage and of course space for an microSD-card.
However when i check "storage" i have 1GB "internal storage" and 1,6GB "USB storage" and then there is my 32GB microSD card that shows it has 29,23GB.
The thing is the 1,6GB USB storage is seen as a SD-card by the system and also called sdcard when i check with file manager. My 32GB microSD is called sdcard2.
So when i tell the system to install to sdcard it will install to that 1,6GB USB storage (which is almost full!) and i cant find a way to force it to install it to the real SD-card.
Even with app 2 sd it will try to copy the apps to that 1.6GB USB storage and (as far as i can tell) i cant tell it to use the other (real) SD-card.
Is there some sort of fix or work around for this? Did ACER mess up by naming the internal storage sdcard?
I think you have to edit the script to do that manually. Find out the name of the sdcard2 partition, and put that in place of the sdcard partition which is currently in the script. You may need to clear & reflash everything, then flash your customized a2sd script.
Also make sure you've established what partitions you want on the microSD card, and how they are to be formatted.
Ah that sound like more work than i expected. Also i dont think there is a tool yet to backup the ROM for this phone
So i guess im kinda screwed for now. Isn't there an easy way to maybe symlink the data folder to the SD card? (i think it's the android folder isn't it?)
Hello, when you go to storage in settings you have 2 options. 1 is usb storage. This is for sd card 1. 2 is option sd card 2. Mark this one and all will go to sd card 2.
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it doesnt work in this phone
Zoeriva said:
Hello, when you go to storage in settings you have 2 options. 1 is usb storage. This is for sd card 1. 2 is option sd card 2. Mark this one and all will go to sd card 2.
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hello, i have the same problem with my acer liquid gallant duo (os4.0.3), when i go to storage in settings in preferred install location i have 3 options:
-internal storage
-USB storage (sdcard1)
-let the system decide
it doesnt have the sdcard2 option..
I have tried the Directory Bind ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262 ) and it works but first you have to install it in usb storage(sdcard1) and then move it to sdcard2 and if an app is biger than 1,5gb you cant install it in the first place coze you only have 1,4gb of free space in usb storage(sdcard1)..
in ROM MANAGER i have seen an option that it sais partition sd card, i will read more about it and i will check it out
this is the first android phone that i have and i am new to this
Hi all!!
I also have the Gallant Duo, I love it! But this thing about not being able to move apks to the external sd (sdcard2) is very annoyning? Is there any solution apart from directory bind? Like this one f.e. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/choose-your-own-storage-with-folders-plug/. Does anyone know if this works? Also, does anyone have a modified vold.fstab file with the sdcard2 as internal sd and internal as external?
Looking for an answer to this question i didn't found it here, but i think here should be an answer.
What worked for me:
use the app External 2 internal from the app store.
Check use per default:
The original internal mounting point: /mnt/sdcard
The original external mounting point: /mnt/sdcard2
The ext. sdcard device access: /dev/block/vold/179:25 I'm not sure about this setting, i just looked in the folder and this was the highest number. so more information about this is welcome
With these settings i've good results. But after some reboot's with "at boot**" (no init.d support needed) i lost access to my sdcard, in fact every one.. When I restored my ROM(super stock ROM) using CMW everything worked fine again, no loss of data or whatsoever, and external 2 internal worked again till now.
But now i'm wondering why the boys and girls from super stock ROM didn't fix this upfront..?

[Q] external_sd folder And external SD card

Hi all!
I have recently brought an 16GB External SD card for my SGSII, to store my Titanium Backups. I found the external_sd folder in the internal sd card, and thought that it was the External SD card, so i placed all my backups there. But just recently it seems like i have run out of space on the phone, so i can't update some of my apps. I started deleting a lot of photos and videos from my phone and cleared 2.5GB, but i still can't update some of my apps. I began looking through my folders, and noticed that i also have an External SD card partition on my phone. The same one i see when the phone is connected to the pc. In it i can see a Clockwork Recovery folder containing my ROM backups. So i began wondering if the external_sd folder is actually located on the phone and not in the External SD card. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, when i open the Storage (i think that's what it's called) section in the settings on CM10, and noticed that i have 2 Internal Storage sections, one of them has only App data, and the other has photos, apps, music etc. and a SD Card section, with 6.64GB storage left. Does anyone know why is there is 2 Internal Storage sections?
Thank you in advance!
/gammarik
As far as I know the "external_sd" is your removable external SD card. For some inexplicable reason it mounts as a sub-directory from the internal SD card, but it is definitely your removable external SD card.
I have a feeling that Jellybean brings a change and the external SD card mounts in a different way to ICS. I had only a brief experience of this when I played with the leaked ROM but I have reverted to ICS because of battery drain problems.
Your internal memory is partitioned with about 500MB for the system ROM, and 2GB reserved for app installations. Once this fills to around 85-90% you'll begin hitting problems with insufficient storage space errors. If you move apps to SD then this will make use of the data partition of your internal memory (about 12GB available to user on a 16GB device).
I'm running JB (Rootbox 3.2). I set the target path as /extSdCard/Titanium Backup in Preferences for it to work.
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As far as I know the "external_sd" is your removable external SD card. For some inexplicable reason it mounts as a sub-directory from the internal SD card, but it is definitely your removable external SD card.
I have a feeling that Jellybean brings a change and the external SD card mounts in a different way to ICS. I had only a brief experience of this when I played with the leaked ROM but I have reverted to ICS because of battery drain problems.
Your internal memory is partitioned with about 500MB for the system ROM, and 2GB reserved for app installations. Once this fills to around 85-90% you'll begin hitting problems with insufficient storage space errors. If you move apps to SD then this will make use of the data partition of your internal memory (about 12GB available to user on a 16GB device).
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So i should move my apps from the App reserved partition to the main storage partition? Or the external SD card? And how do i do that? Sorry for noob questions, i am not too much into how Android works
I don't think you can move apps to external SD card.
Go to settings -> applications and you'll see your apps listed with information about their size. Select one, and you should see a button "Move to SD card". If this is greyed out then the app doesn't support operation from the SD card, but for many you can press the button and it will move the app for you.
The interface in settings isn't the best - I use ZDBox which is a free utility tool available from the Play Store with several useful functions, including an improved "App to SD" UI which makes it easier to see what is going on.
Be careful with widget apps and others that interact with OS functionality as these often don't play happy if moved to SD card.
in your internal memory there is a folder call externel_sd ok leave it coz you still in your internal memory and go search your external sd card memory it named extSdCard or emmc
Also, when i open the Storage (i think that's what it's called) section in the settings on CM10, and noticed that i have 2 Internal Storage sections, one of them has only App data, and the other has photos, apps, music etc. and a SD Card section, with 6.64GB storage left. Does anyone know why is there is 2 Internal Storage sections?
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1st internal is /data, 2nd internal is /storage/sdcard0 (your internal 11GB memory).

[Q] Internal Storage-Internal SD card

Hello
I have a galaxy s2 and i wonder what is the difference between internal storage and internal SD card.
In the internal storage i see only apps are installed
and in the internal SD card i have only music photos and others.
it already happened to me that i tried to download an app from the google play and i did not have enough space
is there a way to move my apps from Internal storage to Internal SD card?
(i do not have an external sd card) and if you dont understand what i mean i can upload a screenshot.
thank you
Hello,
Yes, internal storage (or system storage in my phone) is where all the apps are installed.
And internal SD card (known better as internal storage) is where photos, videos etc etc are stored.
This is the only thing i know..
About the moving of apps, i recommend you go to settings -> applications and to the app you want to move and check if you actually can move it. (yes, there's an option to move that app to Sd card) My gues it wont since you need an external storage (or known as SD CARD) if you want to move apps.
If you can't install apps from google play, there are mostly two explanations:
1. Actually insufficient storage. To prevent this, free up memory from system storage by deleting apps/games etc.
2. .odex file causes the erroe. To prevent this, (you need to be rooted) goto /data/app in file manager and find <The app you want to install from google play>.odex
Eg. for second alternative.
If you want to install Swiftkey but get an error. Goto /data/app and delete swiftkey.odex
Internal storage, different names
orr77746 said:
Hello
I have a galaxy s2 and i wonder what is the difference between internal storage and internal SD card.
In the internal storage i see only apps are installed
and in the internal SD card i have only music photos and others.
it already happened to me that i tried to download an app from the google play and i did not have enough space
is there a way to move my apps from Internal storage to Internal SD card?
(i do not have an external sd card) and if you dont understand what i mean i can upload a screenshot.
thank you
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There the same thing. You can verify by checking the size of the two & the contents to see if they show the same thing.
It would be helpful to know what version of Android your running since this affects how things are displayed.
To find that information open press the menu or home button (bottom left),
Settings
at the very bottom is "About Device"
Look for Android Version
Within most versions of Android (I have 4.1.2 in front of me) what is called "sdcard" or "internal storage" or "internal sdcard" is actually a partition of the device's total internal storage. Unless you are flashing ROMs or running root, you won't see these other paritions.
The internal storage or sdcard is also called sdcard0 or /storage/sdcard0 depending on your version of Android.
The physical sdcard (external storage) is sometimes called /emmc or /extSdCard In later versions you can also get to it as /storage/sdcard1
Hope that helps
Ed
i am running android 4.0.4
and i understand that i cant move apps to there..
i will just buy an external SD card
you helped me alot
Thanks everybody!!

[Q] Hypderdrive ROM on MI1 has "Renamed" SD Card

I've installed Hyperdrive via SafeStrap today. It seems that when you create that Rom Partition, the OS seems to have been configured so that "SD Card" is actually internal device storage and in order to actually get to the External SD Card I you have to go to Root -> Storage -> ExtSDCard directory.
Also, when I plug it in to the computer, all I can see is the External SD card and this new "fake" SD Card partition in the computer. I can't even get to the Root of the phone.
The problem is things like Pictures and some applications only allow you to choose "Device" or "SD Card" for storage and no matter what you choose it's going to the same place and this virtual SD Card Partition is almost out of space!
Help!
Any help?
jbright44 said:
I've installed Hyperdrive via SafeStrap today. It seems that when you create that Rom Partition, the OS seems to have been configured so that "SD Card" is actually internal device storage and in order to actually get to the External SD Card I you have to go to Root -> Storage -> ExtSDCard directory.
Also, when I plug it in to the computer, all I can see is the External SD card and this new "fake" SD Card partition in the computer. I can't even get to the Root of the phone.
The problem is things like Pictures and some applications only allow you to choose "Device" or "SD Card" for storage and no matter what you choose it's going to the same place and this virtual SD Card Partition is almost out of space!
Help!
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That's the way the Stock ROM works - /mnt/sdcard is the internal storage, /mnt/extSdCard is the external storage.
You can't mount the root because it's a Linux EXT4 filesystem. Windows doesn't understand it. Again, that's normal behavior.
My pictures, music, Ti Backup files, etc. are stored on my external SD card, so it's quite possible to do that.
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