hi,
this ROM works very nice for me, thanks all the deveopers!
i have few questions:
(1) since this ROM has OTA updater (it seems, from the changelog), next time when the new version is realeased, can i just update the ROM via OTA updater?
(2) i dont really understand what “Wipe cache/dalvik” and “Wipe data / factory reset” really do. my guess is that “Wipe data / factory reset” repartitions the internal flash memory of the original memory, so we can use all the memory for our purpose. (not like original Nook Tablet, in which they dedicate only 1GB for personal usage)
if i understand all these correctly, this means next time if i flash the new ROM and want to keep the old data, i should not do "Wipe data / factory reset", but only need to do "Wipe cache/dalvik"? is this correct?
thanks so much,
Jun
junkoi said:
hi,
this ROM works very nice for me, thanks all the deveopers!
i have few questions:
(1) since this ROM has OTA updater (it seems, from the changelog), next time when the new version is realeased, can i just update the ROM via OTA updater?
(2) i dont really understand what “Wipe cache/dalvik” and “Wipe data / factory reset” really do. my guess is that “Wipe data / factory reset” repartitions the internal flash memory of the original memory, so we can use all the memory for our purpose. (not like original Nook Tablet, in which they dedicate only 1GB for personal usage)
if i understand all these correctly, this means next time if i flash the new ROM and want to keep the old data, i should not do "Wipe data / factory reset", but only need to do "Wipe cache/dalvik"? is this correct?
thanks so much,
Jun
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Wipe data/factory reset is an option in CWM Recovery. Really all it does (from the screen messages) is format both /data and /cache.
Assuming you have CWM Recovery (though I imagine that there are similar entries in TWRP, I've just never used it), to wipe both of the caches you will first need to go to the entry "Wipe Cache Partition", which I believe is directly below Wipe Data/Factory Reset. Do that 3x (that's always been the recommendation, anyway) then go to Advanced and click on Wipe Dalvik Cache (again, 3x).
Again, assuming CWM Recovery, when you're in the recovery Vol Up/Down goes up and down in the list, the 'n' key is for Enter, and the Pwr button goes back.
I don't know about the OTA Updater. I always download and install ROMs (on both my phone and my NT) via Recovery.
Since this is a CM10 based rom you probably don't want to do the ota updater since that is a Cyanogenmod feature. This rom is optimized for the Nook from the CM10 Source I would presume. I personally tried the ota uldater since i get the notifications all the time but i get an error message something like "can't verify the source with a string of numbers". Stick to the recovery based flash installation.
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I agree with liquidzoo that you should probably do the wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and factory reset 3times seems like overkill but you can never be too safe. Also i use twrp recovery and click the system button and wipe system a few times as well.
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kobhomye said:
I agree with liquidzoo that you should probably do the wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and factory reset 3times seems like overkill but you can never be too safe. Also i use twrp recovery and click the system button and wipe system a few times as well.
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I wipe /system 3x as well (under Mounts in CWM Recovery) when I'm installing a new ROM.
liquidzoo said:
I wipe /system 3x as well (under Mounts in CWM Recovery) when I'm installing a new ROM.
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I'm not picking on you personally, but deleting and/or wiping partitions (in the case of /system) or directories (dalvik-cache) three times as opposed to once is completely unnecessary. You'll gain nothing by running the command three times over running it once, assuming you received no errors the first time.
When wiping the dalvik cache, both CM recovery and TWRP perform an "rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache" command using the shell. It's not Windows, and is unlikely to fail when passed the "-f (force)" option along with the "-r (recursive)" option.
In the case of wiping the /system partition, again both CM and TWRP write out zeros to clear the data on the partition. I would be suprised if CWM acted differently from CM and TWRP when wiping dalvik-cache and /system.
The only reason I bothered to look into what these commands actually do is to prevent a user from thinking there's a corellation between a failure to wipe 3x versus a problem they're having. If a 3x wipe "fixes" something for you, whatever the problem was, it's very unlikely that the second or third wipe was what fixed it but instead it was more likely a result of a clean install of the ROM.
References from source:
TWRP Wipe Dalvik - https://github.com/TeamWin/Team-Win...548de276b62c0e9af8661e/extra-functions.c#L986
TWRP Wipe/Format System - https://github.com/TeamWin/Team-Win...8de276b62c0e9af8661e/mtdutils/mtdutils.c#L498
CM Wipe Dalvik - https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...aa7ff3d06d5dd115b16c/extendedcommands.c#L1292
CM Wipe/Format System - https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...aa7ff3d06d5dd115b16c/mtdutils/mtdutils.c#L498
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No worries, it's just something I've always done as it's been recommended to me in the past (there are some ROM developers that recommend 5x, actually). I'm not saying that 3x over 1x is any better, but I've never had issues. YMMV, but it doesn't take much more time and I like being thorough.
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Wipe data/factory reset is an option in CWM Recovery. Really all it does (from the screen messages) is format both /data and /cache.
Assuming you have CWM Recovery (though I imagine that there are similar entries in TWRP, I've just never used it), to wipe both of the caches you will first need to go to the entry "Wipe Cache Partition", which I believe is directly below Wipe Data/Factory Reset. Do that 3x (that's always been the recommendation, anyway) then go to Advanced and click on Wipe Dalvik Cache (again, 3x).
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sorry, but can you confirm that when i upgrade to the new ROM (from the same author), it is really necessary to Wipe cache &Dalvik cache?
i am confused because somebody told me that i can just flash the ROM by installing the ZIP file (containing the ROM), and reboot the Nook without having to wipe or clean anything.
thanks,
JK
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junkoi said:
sorry, but can you confirm that when i upgrade to the new ROM (from the same author), it is really necessary to Wipe cache &Dalvik cache?
i am confused because somebody told me that i can just flash the ROM by installing the ZIP file (containing the ROM), and reboot the Nook without having to wipe or clean anything.
thanks,
JK
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I don't know if I am doing it right or wrong but I have flashed numerous ROMs and lately have flashed every version of SGT7+CM10+Cherry Picks,By meghd00t. from 24/09 thru my current installation of 08/10 with only one glitch and that was when I flashed enhancements v2 on top of v1.
I have never had any other issues with the above mentioned ROMs except when I flashed 04/10 with enhancement v2. I didn't have the tablet option.
The way I do it is as follows:
1. format /system
2. format /data
3. Flash ROM
4. Flash CWM emmc
5. Flash GAPPs
6. Reset Factory/format data
7. Remove CWM SD card put in data SD Card with Flash Player (no longer avail on Google Play)
8. Boot from CWM menu
Takes awhile to boot this first time. When booted up I bypass the setup screens.
9. Manually set up wireless (need to access auth web site at work and need wireless to be working to accomplish that)
10. Browse to a web site and get redirected to auth page.
11. Auth
12. Set up Google account and other settings, especially under Security <Install from other locations>
13. Download apps I want from Google.
At this first boot SD card is not mounted.
14. Shut down and do a cold boot.
Now I can see SD Card.
15. Install Flash Player from External SD Card.
16. Install Crackle from Play Store.
Now I check Pandora for Audio, Crackle for Video, other apps I use, utilities, keyboards, launchers, games, etc.
So far since Version 24/09 everything has worked for me with the two exceptions above, tablet mode with 04/10 with enhancement v2 and when I flashed enhancement v2 over enhancement v1.
I am now running 08/10 and am very happy with the performance, battery drain is more than CM7 but that is to be expected from a fairly new ROM but not so bad that it is unacceptable, to me at least.
I have never had a black screen or arbitrary reboot (knock on wood). However I do turn my tablet off when I am finished using it, so don't know about deep sleep. I'm using OnDemand, and three launchers without one being the default....Apex, Nova and Trebucket.
All I can say is these developers really ROCK, way to go guys!
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The way I do it is as follows:
1. format /system
2. format /data
3. Flash ROM
4. Flash CWM emmc
5. Flash GAPPs
6. Reset Factory/format data
7. Remove CWM SD card put in data SD Card with Flash Player (no longer avail on Google Play)
8. Boot from CWM menu
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You don't need to re-flash CWM every time you flash a ROM. Also, it doesn't make sense to me why you would do a factory reset/format after flashing the new ROM, I would think it would be done prior to flashing the ROM but maybe it doesn't make a difference, I don't know.
I've got TWRP installed to the emmc so I just download the new ROM to the SD with GooManager, reboot into recovery, do a backup, factory reset, flash new ROM & GApps and reboot. Only takes a few minutes.
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LifeWOutMilk said:
You don't need to re-flash CWM every time you flash a ROM. Also, it doesn't make sense to me why you would do a factory reset/format after flashing the new ROM, I would think it would be done prior to flashing the ROM but maybe it doesn't make a difference, I don't know.
I've got TWRP installed to the emmc so I just download the new ROM to the SD with GooManager, reboot into recovery, do a backup, factory reset, flash new ROM & GApps and reboot. Only takes a few minutes.
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Tried it as you mentioned, doing a factory reset before flashing the ROM and got a black screen and wouldn't boot. May have been a fluke but the way I mentioned above gives me a good image and alway boots. Don't know why, but if it works for me, I will continue to do it this way as long as it works for me. I have flashed numerous other ROMs the same way with good results each time.
junkoi said:
sorry, but can you confirm that when i upgrade to the new ROM (from the same author), it is really necessary to Wipe cache &Dalvik cache?
i am confused because somebody told me that i can just flash the ROM by installing the ZIP file (containing the ROM), and reboot the Nook without having to wipe or clean anything.
thanks,
JK
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For an update, yes it is recommended to clear both caches. To be clear, this is only for an update. If it is a new ROM, or if the author recommends it, you should also wipe /data and /system first.
You can just flash without clearing them, but you might run into unexpected issues, so it's not recommended.
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Tried it as you mentioned, doing a factory reset before flashing the ROM and got a black screen and wouldn't boot. May have been a fluke but the way I mentioned above gives me a good image and alway boots. Don't know why, but if it works for me, I will continue to do it this way as long as it works for me. I have flashed numerous other ROMs the same way with good results each time.
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I get a black screen for a while on first boot too, but it only last a couple minutes at the most and if you shine a bright light at the screen you can see the CM logo spinning. Are you sure it was hung?
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When you clear the Dalvik cache, it clears out data stored in your applications. When you turn on your Nook after clearing the Dalvik, the first thing it does is it rebuilds the Dalvik cache, that's why it seemed like it hung on startup. I believe the long black screen in the beginning is when it rebuilds Dalvik for core Android apps and then when it says "Optimizing Apps", that's for the rest of your applications. The more apps you have, the longer it will take to build the Dalvik. No need to freak out, just a little patience is all you need. Correct me if I'm wrong, however, as I'm still pretty much a noob at this... :laugh:
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topdawg7793 said:
When you clear the Dalvik cache, it cleares out data stored in your applications. When you turn on your Nook after clearing the Dalvik, the first thing it does is it rebuilds the Dalvik cache, that's why it seemed like it hung on startup. I believe the long black screen in the beginning is when it rebuilds dalvik for core Android apps and then when it says "Optimizing Apps", that's for the rest of your applications. The more apps you have, the longer it will take to build the dalvik. No need to freak out, just a little patience is all you need. Correct me if I'm wrong, however, as I'm still pretty much a noob at this... :laugh:
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Well fhe screen was black, no light at all and I waited for over five minutes for the Flash Screen to come up and it never did. Yes I know when you are waiting time drags. But due to the ROMS always taking awhile to boot up the first time I actually pay attention to how long it takes. No more then 2 minutes in my experience. I had to hold the power button in for a long time until it finally booted in B&N Recovery. Used my sequence mentioned in earlier post to flash the ROM again and everything worked as it should, GREAT. The number of APPs shouldn't be an issue as these ROMS only have the very basic apps.
I have read this forum and see the various and asundry errors some are getting, so far I have never gotten a major error, except for when I forgot to do the Wipe Data/Factory Reset after flashing.
I also got the "No Tablet Mode Option" with 04/10 with enhancement v2.
But I consider these minor issues and currently am running 08/10 with no issues, works smoother then any version of Microsoft Windows I have dealt with.
These developers are exceptional.
MojoGB said:
I don't know if I am doing it right or wrong but I have flashed numerous ROMs and lately have flashed every version of SGT7+CM10+Cherry Picks,By meghd00t. from 24/09 thru my current installation of 08/10 with only one glitch and that was when I flashed enhancements v2 on top of v1.
I have never had any other issues with the above mentioned ROMs except when I flashed 04/10 with enhancement v2. I didn't have the tablet option.
The way I do it is as follows:
1. format /system
2. format /data
3. Flash ROM
4. Flash CWM emmc
5. Flash GAPPs
6. Reset Factory/format data
7. Remove CWM SD card put in data SD Card with Flash Player (no longer avail on Google Play)
8. Boot from CWM menu
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oh, so you always reset factory every time you upgrade the ROM? that way will delete all the old data/apps you installed, so you need to install all the apps again?
this is my concern, because i dont want to reinstall apps, or lose my data. so i think i just need flash the new ROM, then Wipe cache/Dalvik cache, and hopefully all the old apps and data are still intact.
thanks.
MojoGB said:
I don't know if I am doing it right or wrong but I have flashed numerous ROMs and lately have flashed every version of SGT7+CM10+Cherry Picks,By meghd00t. from 24/09 thru my current installation of 08/10 with only one glitch and that was when I flashed enhancements v2 on top of v1.
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i have some questions on the "Enhancements":
(1) the correct way to install them is to flash version 1 first, then immediately flash version 2 right after version 1 (without having to reboot first)?
(2) i am not sure what i will get with this "enhancements". they will make video/audio playing more smoothly? is the quality improvement really noticable? anything else, like they make the battery last longer, for example?
thanks,
Jun
If you're running 08/10, the enhancements are not needed. That's my understanding at least. I had problems with V2 so I decided to not install them while on 04/10.
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junkoi said:
i have some questions on the "Enhancements":
(1) the correct way to install them is to flash version 1 first, then immediately flash version 2 right after version 1 (without having to reboot first)?
(2) i am not sure what i will get with this "enhancements". they will make video/audio playing more smoothly? is the quality improvement really noticable? anything else, like they make the battery last longer, for example?
thanks,
Jun
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If you flash enhancement v2 on top of version 1 you will have problems, UI will stop. If you only flash v2 you will not have the Tablet Mode Option. So my understanding is that you can use either v1 or v2 but not both.
ROM 08/10 does not need either enhancement as indicated by the developer. ROM 08/10 works great by itself is my experience.
If I'm installing a ROM, backup the existing ROM and wipe everything.
If I'm installing a .zip package like GApps or an enhancement, backup the existing ROM, wipe Data/Dalvik.
Folks, these are development ROMS. Thar be bugs in thet thar code. It's going to take you longer than the time you think you're going to save by doing a dirty flash, and then having to restore the thing to stock (worse case) only to start all over.
Don't ask how I know.
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If I'm installing a ROM, backup the existing ROM and wipe everything.
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so it is possible to back up the existing data/apps, then restore them back after the new ROM is flashed? could you please confirm this?
if so, how & what is the right steps to do the backup? can we still use CWM, or use ROM Manager, or other tools?
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Yeah, I just flashed from EB01 SC 292 to ED01 MIUIWiz after full Data, Cache, Dalvik, and voltage double wipes, and restored all my old EB01 user Data and apps over MIUIWiz, all in under 17 minutes.
Edit: adding navenedrob's utility method has cut this down to under 10 minutes, plus navigation and reboot time. See post #5
How? Just followed what the Devs have taught us, plus Nandroid Advanced Restore in CWM.
I have been doing this for every ROM I have flashed since I discovered what a Nandroid backup was.
But this is not just a Nandroid Backup. This is a partial restoration called “Restore data” under “Advanced Restore.” All in CWM recovery.
Here is the method I use:
Charge to 100% (At this point, I started the timer)
Boot to Recovery
Wipe Cache and Dalvik (and Voltage for MIUIWiz) x2
Make a Nandroid backup
Wipe Data x2
Flash the new ROM (of your choice) in CWM
Let it boot
Boot to Recovery
Select “backup and restore”
Select “Advanced Restore”
Select the Nandroid Backup file you wish to restore from (probably your latest one)
Here is where it gets cool, and less scary…
There is yet another page, with options:
Restore boot
Restore system
Restore data
Restore cache
Restore sd-ext
+++++Go Back+++++
So no sweat yet
Select “Restore Data”
Reboot completely
Turn off phone (here is where I stopped the timer at 16.5 minutes)
Charge to 100%
Boot and enjoy.
BAM! All the old data is back. On top of the new ROM. Except for stuff that no longer applies, like maybe in-ROM launchers that no longer exist.
My ROM flashing evolution path has been:
Stock
Odin DXC DB/DO tar
EC01 DB/D0 (zip i think, can't remember)
Full ED01 (Adrynalyne method, not OTA)
ComROM 1.0 zip
Evil Fascination, all variants in sequence. Zip
EB01 SC 2.9.2 zip (Why? To see if it would work. Because it means restoring ED01 Nandroid data over an EB01 ROM. Without compromising the ROM. (Thanks for the assistance with this, Lttlwing16.)
ED01 MIUIWiz
Seems to work flawlessly so far. No forced closes, no hiccups, just sweet functionality. Every time so far. And so quick, I sometimes actually have time to use my phone between flashes.
As I said, I have been doing this for just about as long as I have been flashing through CWM. Your backup may overwrite some ROM theme elements, so that is something to think about.
Any other drawbacks? Not that I have found, but…Not completely sure yet, So… You know the drill…
DO NOT TRY THIS UNLESS YOU ACCEPT FULL RESPONSIBILITY AND ARE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES!! YOU MAY LOSE DATA OR FUNCTIONALITY!! YOU MAY EVEN MANAGE TO BRICK THIS THING!
But you just made a complete clean-wiped Nandroid Backup, right? So you can always restore the whole thing. Or worst case, do the Odin recovery method. (or even worse case, Heimdall).
I suspect that there is some reason that this method has not been widely promoted already. It seems unlikely that it has not been experimented with, so maybe someone can help show a newbie the error of his ways. Or we may need someone with a thorough knowledge of Fascinate ROMs to add some warnings, caveats, or guidance around potential problems, etc. But it does seem to work just fine for me, and all of the ROMs I have worked with seem smooth and stable. All my apps always work, and update properly. Unless I get stupid and screw something up.
It does seem that Android should be able to pull this off if sufficient attention is given to file structure and dependencies, and if everything data can be kept where a data only restore would look for files. I suspect that I have been having success because of the good work of all the great ROM builders and developers working to fix the Fascinate, and make our experience all that it is. So if this works for you, they are the ones that really deserve the credit and the thanks. They made it work. I just followed instructions, got curious about Nandroid Advanced Restore, and pushed the right buttons. Oh, and wrote it all down.
Wiping data and dalvik cache is kinda pointless because it gets overwritten and replaced by the restore anyway. Dalvik cache is located in the data partition, not the cache partition, ironically.
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Well, I am expecting to learn something from posting this. So thanks. However, it raises more questions for me.
Does it mean that I never have actually needed to wipe data? I could have flashed all those ROMs without wiping data and without issues?
My understanding was that at least the cache would be re-written as needed by the new ROM, rather than trying to work with data created by the old one.
It sounds like it means that if bringing back the old data works, keeping the old data would have worked, too. So even Dalvik could have been left every time?
My thinking was that cleaning the cache and Dalvik before making the backup would mean that when restoring, they would come back blank, and not confuse the new ROM. I was under the impression that something was more likely to go wrong if all that stuff was left in there, and it was safer to bring it in later, after the ROM boots up, and give the new ROM a chance to properly recognize and deal with it.
Is there any logic in that logic? Just asking, because I really don't know. It sounds good.
If not, this thread is for educational purposes only.
But dang, either the Devs are even more awesome than we thought, or I must get lucky a lot. Because I have flashed quite a few ROMs without issues, force closes, etc.
Interested in more feedback on this process.
OK, I did have a couple of FCs of Gmail this last time flashing MIUIWiz, going from EB01 to ED01. It seemed to fix itself after I closed it twice, but I updated Gmail anyway. No repeats.
I have a new preferred method of backing up, cleaning the files, flashing new ROMs and restoring my data. Flashed MIUIWiz 111 over EF 360, the whole process taking about 10 minutes altogether plus navigation and boot time.
(Always create a clean Nandroid Backup (with wiped cache and Dalvik, possibly voltage) 4-5 minute process, not included. This should ensure that the new ROM will create its own compatible cache data after the restore.)
1. Run navenedrob's reformat utility [UTILITY]EXT4/RFS Formatter (CWM3 recovery packages) - xda-developers as a CWM zip from sd card <1 minute process.
2. Flash the new ROM in CWM <1 minute process.
3. Flash new Kernel if needed (before allowing ROM to boot) in CWM <0.5 minute process
4. Allow ROM to boot (3-4 minute process)
5. Nandroid Advanced Restore in CWM (Data only) (3 minute process)(Restores all User Data and apps)
From navenedrob: “Understand that this [format utility] will completely wipe your system, data, datadata (dbdata), and cache. This is a "full" wipe of the device.” But it also puts things back in order if they have gotten screwed up. This could be the solution to issues you are having. Thanks, navenedrob! Very cool.
If there are particularly desirable user setups in the flashed ROM, be advised they may get lost in the restore.
The only issue I seem to have is the need to update/install Gmail. Then all is smooth.
Works for me, but you may totally bork yours. You are responsible for what you decide to do.
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Wiping data and dalvik cache is kinda pointless because it gets overwritten and replaced by the restore anyway. Dalvik cache is located in the data partition, not the cache partition, ironically.
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I think that means wiping data also wipes Dalvik. So Dalvik wipe is redundant when wiping data. Good to know about the partition info. Seems to support the idea that wiping Dalvik before making the backup would ensure that when the restored data is brought back, it brings no Dalvik data with it, avoiding potential issues with the new ROM.
Hey guys,
I was running LiquidSmooth v2.9 previously, and thought I would try some of the other mods. Heard a lot about SlimBean so gave the lastest version a try (Build 7). Right off the bat, the ROM was highly unstable. It would crash randomly and often. After a few hard reboots (Power+Home button), the ROM just refused to start up - it would get stuck on the boot screen logo. I tried clearing the cache + Dalvik, but no luck. It would boot to the 'Android is optimizing app' bit but would get stuck at "starting apps" after it finished optimizing.
I had Illusion ROM on the phone, so flashed that, wiped the cache + Dalvik, but the phone is behaving in similar fashion. It gets stuck on the boot screen logo, or at the "starting apps" bit if i clear the Dalvik the cache.
I fear I may have bricked my phone. I hope there is a solution to this. Any help will be appreciated!
Did you format system and data before flashing?
slaphead20 said:
Did you format system and data before flashing?
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I flashed via Rom Manager, and I selected Wipe Data and Cache option - however, that's not a complete format as in my pictures and whatsapp content still remained.
So, no?
mufaa said:
I flashed via Rom Manager, and I selected Wipe Data and Cache option - however, that's not a complete format as in my pictures and whatsapp content still remained.
So, no?
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Don't use Rom manager is my advice on that............
BUT.......DO go to the Slim website and read the installation instructions!........that is what they are there for
slaphead20 said:
Don't use Rom manager is my advice on that............
BUT.......DO go to the Slim website and read the installation instructions!........that is what they are there for
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It does say to format system - is there a way I can avoid this? My only concern is my camera images - I do have a backup, but I believe that when I will copy them from my PC to the phone, it will loose date formatting and just show them in an unorganized fashion.
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Don't use Rom manager is my advice on that............
BUT.......DO go to the Slim website and read the installation instructions!........that is what they are there for
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I went to CMW and selected wipe/factory reset option which should delete all user data. It brought my phone back to life, with IllusionRom in it, but I am encountering random crashes like how I did when I first installed SlimBean. I am sure it's going to go the same way and I will be stuck again with a bricked phone.
Slim Bean suggest to format/system from Mount and Storage in CMW. Is that recommended? Because wipe/factory reset did not delete my user data like Gallery images.
mufaa said:
I went to CMW and selected wipe/factory reset option which should delete all user data. It brought my phone back to life, with IllusionRom in it, but I am encountering random crashes like how I did when I first installed SlimBean. I am sure it's going to go the same way and I will be stuck again with a bricked phone.
Slim Bean suggest to format/system from Mount and Storage in CMW. Is that recommended? Because wipe/factory reset did not delete my user data like Gallery images.
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AS said if you messed up format .
Cache system data preload and sd card .
jje
Factory reset does not format system, it wipes data. The instructions clearly state format system and data
JJEgan said:
AS said if you messed up format .
Cache system data preload and sd card .
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slaphead20 said:
Factory reset does not format system, it wipes data. The instructions clearly state format system and data
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Is deleting SD card necessary - I don't know how that will help especially since it only has images and other media.
I will try formatting system, data, and preload. Should do something else - like erasing the currently installed ROM and put it back again? No idea how to do that though. Should I flash the ROM again, regardless?
mufaa said:
Is deleting SD card necessary - I don't know how that will help especially since it only has images and other media.
I will try formatting system, data, and preload. Should do something else - like erasing the currently installed ROM and put it back again? No idea how to do that though. Should I flash the ROM again, regardless?
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No leave the sd card only format if you have problems .
Use the How to return to stock for warranty guide to restore your phone .
I suggest you then read the basic faqs and guides before flashing anything .
jje
mufaa said:
It does say to format system - is there a way I can avoid this? My only concern is my camera images
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camera images are stored on /sdcard not /system.
This is quite a basic understanding of layout. Please read the "read before rooting" thread in my signature. It has all the basic info you need to know.
I performed format/system/data/preload/cache, wiped dalvik and normal cache, and reset to factory settings. Installed Slim bean along with Slim Gapps. It seems to be working, or rather I am getting prolonged used out of it before it crashes. It has only crashed once for me (I was just browsing the homescreen), but I haven't used the phone frequently due to work.
I don't think the problem is solved. Could it be related to emmc chip?
mufaa said:
I performed format/system/data/preload/cache, wiped dalvik and normal cache, and reset to factory settings. Installed Slim bean along with Slim Gapps. It seems to be working, or rather I am getting prolonged used out of it before it crashes. It has only crashed once for me (I was just browsing the homescreen), but I haven't used the phone frequently due to work.
I don't think the problem is solved. Could it be related to emmc chip?
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Rom not chip flash stock rom and test .
jje
I have had two crashes so far, but since the past 5-6 hours, it is going steady. Slim Bean is quite slow, especially compared to LS, but I am not if it's the ROM or if the system is performing optimally.
Anyways, if I have another crash, I will install the stock and give it a try. Will keep this thread updated.
mufaa said:
I have had two crashes so far, but since the past 5-6 hours, it is going steady. Slim Bean is quite slow, especially compared to LS, but I am not if it's the ROM or if the system is performing optimally.
Anyways, if I have another crash, I will install the stock and give it a try. Will keep this thread updated.
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Best thing would be to go to the Slim thread and get reading and posting there
slaphead20 said:
Best thing would be to go to the Slim thread and get reading and posting there
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I have now!
I am getting a fc in setup wizard after installing the Infamous ROM 4.3 "pac_p4_4.3-Infamous_20131017.zip".
Followed below steps:
1. using CWM 6.0.2.7, wipe data/factory reset
2. wipe cache partition
3. wipe delvik cache
4. Flashed Infamous ROM
5. Flashed gaps "gapps-jb-20130813-signed"
6. Reboot
after getting the fc on setup wizard i tried, 1) wiping cache and rebooting 2) reflashing the infamous rom on top again.
both solutions did not work.
I am coming from Ganbarou 4.3 ROM and before that i had Toldo's v8 ICS rom. Ganbarou ROM was working well.
Just wanted to test different JB 4.3 roms.
can someone help me out?
thanks.
Have you tried reflashing gapps?
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haven't done that yet. i will try reflashing gaps.
thanks.
ahsenz said:
haven't done that yet. i will try reflashing gaps.
thanks.
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First you need to update your recovery to 6.0.3.6. You can get it from Droidbasement.
Secondly, before flashing you need to format system under Mounts and Storages in addition to the wipes you mentioned above.
After installation wipe cache and dalvik cache again and then reboot.
The gapps is okay as it is same as mine, and I never had any issues.
Cheers.
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John Kester said:
First you need to update your recovery to 6.0.3.6. You can get it from Droidbasement.
Secondly, before flashing you need to format system under Mounts and Storages in addition to the wipes you mentioned above.
After installation wipe cache and dalvik cache again and then reboot.
The gapps is okay as it is same as mine, and I never had any issues.
Cheers.
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Great advice...
I also always suggest a system format...
I just wanted to add that with the older recovery...it doesn't like 4.3 gapps. You can boot after ROM flash. Then go back to recovery and flash gapps...wipe cache and dalvik before. And that will work also and I've seen gapps cause some weird issues with this device as well as my e4gt..
Or just use twrp...I've had zero issues with flashing anything since switching...
Thanks for the advice. (John and Gil81)
I followed the steps as advised i.e.
1. under Mount and Storage, format system
2. format cache
3. format data
4. flash rom, this time i flashed CM10.2/SGT7 rom.
5. reboot
everything was working smooth, so moved on to
6. flashing gaps
7. reboot and now
8. Enjoying. (restoring apps)
great work from all the developers of 4.3 roms for our device.
have not upgraded the CWM recovery yet, but please advise if it is absolutely necessary to do that. May be i would do it with any future upgrades.
also to get better understanding of the recovery, what is the difference between format data and format sdcard option?
thanks.
ahsenz said:
Thanks for the advice. (John and Gil81)
I followed the steps as advised i.e.
1. under Mount and Storage, format system
2. format cache
3. format data
4. flash rom, this time i flashed CM10.2/SGT7 rom.
5. reboot
everything was working smooth, so moved on to
6. flashing gaps
7. reboot and now
8. Enjoying. (restoring apps)
great work from all the developers of 4.3 roms for our device.
have not upgraded the CWM recovery yet, but please advise if it is absolutely necessary to do that. May be i would do it with any future upgrades.
also to get better understanding of the recovery, what is the difference between format data and format sdcard option?
thanks.
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Formatting sdcard will wipe everything in your device including the media partition where your user generated data like pictures, videos, downloads etc and also all the files copied to the device from PC. So be careful NOT to format the sdcard.
Formatting data, on the other hand will remove your installed gapps and the associated data. This is necessary when migrating from an older ROM to a newer one that will need you to install different version of gapps that is suitable for the newer ROM. Even when crossing from one ROM to another based on the same version of android, it becomes necessary to format data to get a clean install so the data from the different ROMs do not conflict.
The recovery version, as I understand it, is necessary for the changes to the filing system of 4.3 which is different from 4.2.2. In addition it is also designed to support the multiuser feature of 4.3. I am a single user so I can't attest to how it helps there.
Cheers.
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Hey everyone, I am looking for a little clarification on something. I have a Canadian Rogers i717r. I am running the stock Rogers Jellybean ROM I717RUXMD1_I717RRWCMD1_RWC, with root. Recently, I have been noticing some issues with it hanging, and doing other odd things, so I just think it is time for a reinstall. I may have installed a bad app or something along the way, because it does happen from time to time. My main question is this: How do I do a complete system wipe? Now I am talking every old file, so there are no remnants of the old information left. I have done the factory wipe and dalvik wipe, along with the cache wipe, prior to installing a ROM, every time I have done a new ROM install.. It always seems to leave files behind though. Old game files will still be there and such. Is there a way to get rid of it all, so it is a complete clean slate for the install?
Now, I use TWRP, but the idea is generally the same when it comes to this procedure, and I have found these instructions online;
-- The correct procedure for doing a full wipe is below.
Go to clockworkmod recovery.
Volume up, power button, and home button all pressed together for a couple of seconds.
Go to Advanced menu and wipe the dalvik cache and batt stats if present!
Go to mounts and storage and select it.
Go to format / system and select it.
Scroll down to format system and select yes.
Go to format / data and select it
Scroll down to format data and select yes.
Go to format / cache and select it.
Scroll down to format cache and select yes.
Now go back and install the rom from the internal or external sd card.
This is the correct way of doing a full wipe everything is erased and formatted ready for the new rom, no old system files, old kernel remnants etc....
I am curious as to what will have to be done after the install is complete. I am going to lose ALL of the info. I would basically need to redo all the programming on the phone, including the IMEI and all the info for the networks and what the phone needs to recognize what network it is allowed to access and such. Is this what it will boil down to? I will basically need to reprogram the behind the scenes info also, or no?
Thanks in advance!
Shad
ShadNuke said:
Hey everyone, I am looking for a little clarification on something. I have a Canadian Rogers i717r. I am running the stock Rogers Jellybean ROM I717RUXMD1_I717RRWCMD1_RWC, with root. Recently, I have been noticing some issues with it hanging, and doing other odd things, so I just think it is time for a reinstall. I may have installed a bad app or something along the way, because it does happen from time to time. My main question is this: How do I do a complete system wipe? Now I am talking every old file, so there are no remnants of the old information left. I have done the factory wipe and dalvik wipe, along with the cache wipe, prior to installing a ROM, every time I have done a new ROM install.. It always seems to leave files behind though. Old game files will still be there and such. Is there a way to get rid of it all, so it is a complete clean slate for the install?
Now, I use TWRP, but the idea is generally the same when it comes to this procedure, and I have found these instructions online;
-- The correct procedure for doing a full wipe is below.
Go to clockworkmod recovery.
Volume up, power button, and home button all pressed together for a couple of seconds.
Go to Advanced menu and wipe the dalvik cache and batt stats if present!
Go to mounts and storage and select it.
Go to format / system and select it.
Scroll down to format system and select yes.
Go to format / data and select it
Scroll down to format data and select yes.
Go to format / cache and select it.
Scroll down to format cache and select yes.
Now go back and install the rom from the internal or external sd card.
This is the correct way of doing a full wipe everything is erased and formatted ready for the new rom, no old system files, old kernel remnants etc....
I am curious as to what will have to be done after the install is complete. I am going to lose ALL of the info. I would basically need to redo all the programming on the phone, including the IMEI and all the info for the networks and what the phone needs to recognize what network it is allowed to access and such. Is this what it will boil down to? I will basically need to reprogram the behind the scenes info also, or no?
Thanks in advance!
Shad
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First, If you're currently using TWRP I'd suggest updating to the latest version, if you haven't already. There's a few of the newer ROMS which specifically require it. On the question of wiping, before you get too carried away it might help you to backup a few things. Within TWRP (ver 2.8.1.0) you have the options to backup EFS (anywhere you please, Internal storage, internal SDcard or MicroSD card) by clicking on the Storage: bar just above the swipe icon. Your IMEI >> located within EFS folder. Also, search the TWRP website for more specific instructions. What you posted is CW instructions. Hope it helps!
LOOK HERE!!
TWRP version 2.8.1.0: http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
TWRP XDA post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551499
Hi, I'm not exactly new to XDA, however my Note is my first real Android phone. My question is this: If I want to make a backup of the entire phone, so that I can install a new ROM, then restore the phone to exactly the way it was before I installed said ROM, what do I need to select to back up in TWRP? I'm wanting to play with the Lolipop build for i717. I already have a good EFS backup stored separately just in case, so I need to select System, Data, and Boot, and this will save the kernel and the ROM contents, correct? ...and when I restore this backup it will be just like I left it, right?
Also, what do I need to select to Wipe to perform a 'Full Wipe' as is recommended before install?
Thanks for your time.
-josh
joshsmit07 said:
Hi, I'm not exactly new to XDA, however my Note is my first real Android phone. My question is this: If I want to make a backup of the entire phone, so that I can install a new ROM, then restore the phone to exactly the way it was before I installed said ROM, what do I need to select to back up in TWRP? I'm wanting to play with the Lolipop build for i717. I already have a good EFS backup stored separately just in case, so I need to select System, Data, and Boot, and this will save the kernel and the ROM contents, correct? ...and when I restore this backup it will be just like I left it, right?
Also, what do I need to select to Wipe to perform a 'Full Wipe' as is recommended before install?
Thanks for your time.
-josh
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Use gimmeitorilltell's version of twrp as some specifics have not made it to official version. I've had great results using 2.8.0.0 though I believe some newer versions are working now as well. I backup android secure as well. Not sure if this is necessary, it was the default setting. Wipe is generally accepted as factory reset usually followed by going to advanced wipe and checking cache, and dalvik cache and wiping these again. Then install your new rom zip, gapps zip if required, wipe cache and dalvik cache and reboot. First boot will take a long time. Possibly as long as 5 minutes or more. Once booted let rom settle for at least 10 minutes before adjusting any settings. Good luck.
Edit: Your backed up rom system will restore everything back to the way it was if you desire to go back (installed apps and settings as well).
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Thanks @developweb, works perfectly. Also thanks to @gimmeitorilltell for his TWRP and Lollipop ROM.
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