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I'm running the newest SC and I keep running into this prblm. I've unrooted and rooted thinking that would fix it. I've ran a pacth file hoping it would be fixed.
I have been reading some post about it and really haven't found the fix or I just missed it. Can some one point me in the right direction.
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The right direction would be asking your questions in Q&A.
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First off, wrong section... should be in Q&A.
One way to fix it was to get SetCPU, and make sure the minimum CPU speed is 200MHz
You should also give more information. Have you flashed eb01 with odin before installing SC? How often do these sod's happen? Do you use the clock app?
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Questions go in the Q&A subforum.
Here is the only answer that you will probably get that will work (taken from the CWM thread):
GizmoDroid said:
[SIZE=+1]Most Thorough Method of Fixing Every Problem You Might Have[/SIZE]
If you have an issue with applications force closing or a continual boot loop, a lot of times you can fix this issue by running the Fix Permissions option.
If you would like to see your phone be able to have fully functioning Nandroids, and less problems with permission related errors when flashing different ROM's, I encourage you to do the following (this will make your phone as clean and healthy as possible):
ODIN the full stock EB01 package in PDA, the atlas_v2.2.pit in PIT, and "Re-Partition" checked
Let your phone fully boot into the OS and verify everything is working correctly
Remove your battery
ODIN the CWM Recovery package ROM from this post
While reinserting your battery, hold both the volume keys and the power button down until a second after you see the Samsung boot logo
You should see CWM recovery now
Flash the SuperClean ROM from this post, Wipe Cache/Dalvik Cache only.
Reboot. If you have installed the Voodoo ROM, then you should hear a Sexy Robot lady telling you that she is converting your partitions. This process will take 10 minutes or so. If you pull the battery, you will have to start all over again.
Let your phone fully boot into the OS and verify everything is working correctly
If you need to install a theme, reboot, enter CWM and flash theme, Wipe Cache/Dalvik Cache only.
Make a fresh nandroid backup. If you try to restore a Nandroid made with the old CWM, you will probably have problems.
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If you do this and it still happens, install your apps one at a time. A lot of times it is a faulty application that's doing it (apps that mess with cpu speed/voltage, apps that control power settings, a clock app, and even youmail have all been blamed for it).
Another issue some people have is a certain lockscreen mod with music controls.
str8havoc said:
I'm running the newest SC and I keep running into this prblm. I've unrooted and rooted thinking that would fix it. I've ran a pacth file hoping it would be fixed.
I have been reading some post about it and really haven't found the fix or I just missed it. Can some one point me in the right direction.
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Are you running setcpu ? And if u are and u have a profile for when the screen is off, disable it. That should to the trick
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sneakysolidbake said:
The right direction would be asking your questions in Q&A.
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Way to be the post police, but that post was completely uncalled for. You didn't help in the slightest bit. At least the person under you had the courtesy to try and give him a solution, while telling him its in the wrong section.
Thacallmehess said:
Way to be the post police, but that post was completely uncalled for. You didn't help in the slightest bit. At least the person under you had the courtesy to try and give him a solution, while telling him its in the wrong section.
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Your post isn't helpful to the forum at all, at least there's some community members who like to help keep our forums organized and clean so our Mods aren't overwhelmed. (See how easy that was)
@ OP, there is definitely a SOD patch somewhere in the Fascinate forums that Adrynalyne put out a bit back. I apply it along with the Camera mod every time I flash any new version of Superclean based on EB01/EB16. I'll see if I can post a mirror later when I get back home and you still haven't found it.
The SOD patch is already incorporated in to the latest SC. Gizmodroid's process (based on Adryn's solution to problems with SC2.7 iirc) is your best bet at this stage and worked for me. I would also recommend avoiding TiB as much as possible based on Adryn's comments in the SC2.9.2 thread. If you use Gizmodroid's process, please post your results in the relevant thread. I'd be interested in finding out the degree to which that process solves the issues generally.
I had the same problem. Follow the directions above flashing the stock and then upgrading and avoiding the apps noted above (I think youmail was a big part of my problem) and you should be good to go.
GizmoDroid said:
Questions go in the Q&A subforum.
Here is the only answer that you will probably get that will work (taken from the CWM thread):
If you do this and it still happens, install your apps one at a time. A lot of times it is a faulty application that's doing it (apps that mess with cpu speed/voltage, apps that control power settings, a clock app, and even youmail have all been blamed for it).
Another issue some people have is a certain lockscreen mod with music controls.
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Thanks everyone for the fast replies even the one telling me i was in the wrong section. Sorry about that
I use both Youmail and the clock app all the time, so thats probbealy why i'm getting the SOD. I also install my apps from my SD card using Astro File Manager and it sounds like that could be causing my problem to.
I installed SetCPU and set the min. to 200mhz, hope that will fix my problems if not
Q1: can I download another clock app and be ok or will it do the same thing
Q2: is there any way of fixing the Youmail app or should I use another voice mail app.
Just want to thank everyone that keeps XDA up and running you guys rock. Love this Forum!
its funny this was posted today since i was literally coming to the forums to post about this very issue.
i have never had the SOD until i followed the instructional to flash back to EB01 with the new CWM.
it started waking slow a day after the wipe and reload, progressively getting worse. i started getting it yesterday bad where i had to restart the phone 4 or 5 times a day to wake it up. then by last night the phone would either freeze, or the 3G or wifi would show as working but i got errors saying no network connection then it would freeze.
PREFACE : FROM MY OWN experience it must be caused by one of 3 things. either the CWM itself, superclean rom, or something with the EB01 file. i have not installed any new programs since the ODIN flash, i did not restore data with TIBU, and i dont use Youmail.
i have also tried reflashing the modem and tried a nandroid restore from the instant i got it running after new cwm proceedure.
its still doing it and has never done it before the flashing.
EDIT: by the way i just realized that my signature here is wrong - forgot to change it.. running stock superclean 2.9.2 with the included kernel, no theme
Samsung Fascinate
SuperClean 2.9.2 & 3/30 -50 Voodoo
Nitro Vivid 1.0 Theme
Member of Android Anonymous, as a recovering Android bricking addict. I have been brick free for over 30 days.
mrjake1970 said:
its funny this was posted today since i was literally coming to the forums to post about this very issue.
i have never had the SOD until i followed the instructional to flash back to EB01 with the new CWM.
it started waking slow a day after the wipe and reload, progressively getting worse. i started getting it yesterday bad where i had to restart the phone 4 or 5 times a day to wake it up. then by last night the phone would either freeze, or the 3G or wifi would show as working but i got errors saying no network connection then it would freeze.
PREFACE : FROM MY OWN experience it must be caused by one of 3 things. either the CWM itself, superclean rom, or something with the EB01 file. i have not installed any new programs since the ODIN flash, i did not restore data with TIBU, and i dont use Youmail.
i have also tried reflashing the modem and tried a nandroid restore from the instant i got it running after new cwm proceedure.
its still doing it and has never done it before the flashing.
EDIT: by the way i just realized that my signature here is wrong - forgot to change it.. running stock superclean 2.9.2 with the included kernel, no theme
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Are you using the voodoo lag fix?
I think the majority of the incompatibility people are seeing with the fixed cwm is might be some broken compatibility with rfs. It's supposed to be able to handle both, but I think changes in jt's initramfs or changes in the project voodoo files in the kernel that CWM is put into are the root of the problem.
Maybe I'll get some time this weekend to look at it.
In the meantime, everyone should go voodoo/lagfix
yeah giz, im using the superclean "stock" voodoo...
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tonight im going to go flash happy with the original odin file i used to bump to froyo, and the other old cwm with the broken fixpms and the non fixed superclean 2.9.2 and see if that helps.
i cant be late for work again tomorrow with no alarm from a frozen phone lol
Samsung Fascinate
SuperClean 2.9.2 Voodoo
Member of Android Anonymous, as a recovering Android bricking addict. I have been brick free for over 30 days.
What is the sleep of death?
Update...
I reflashed the original EB01 tar file, modem and the 3/30 red CWM, along with the original copy of the non-fixed superclean 2.9.2 ROM and i am running fine so far with no SOD issues.
As long as this holds true for the remainder of the day I'm going to flash the updated CWM tonight to try and narrow down which of the 3 things i suspect in my previous post is causing it.
Samsung Fascinate
SuperClean 2.9.2 & 3/30 -50 Voodoo
Nitro Vivid 1.0 Theme
Member of Android Anonymous, as a recovering Android bricking addict. I have been brick free for over 30 days.
I downloaded setcpu and put it to 200mhz and been running fine since yesterday. I hope it will last the rest of the day.
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created a sleep of death..
so, guess what? i created the sleep of death on my phone, and i know exactly what caused it.. not only that, but remembering back to my last sleep of death experience - it was the same exact scenerio..
i was running EC10 debloated, jt's 4/8 voodoo.. i flashed a theme to check it out.. didnt like it, so i re-flashed EC10 over it, with wiping dalvik and reg cache..
booted fine, however i started to notice clock lag almost immediately.. screen went off, and next time i tried to open the phone, i had to hit the power key 4 times before it would light up.. sounded familiar to me from last time, so i let it go about 1.5 hours.. sure enough, would not wake up.. had to pull battery to get it to boot..
i did a nandroid back to prior to the theme flash, and seem to be running ok.. however i am going to do the "clean" flash again tomorrow back to EB01 again just to be sure..
im convinced that is what caused mine both times..i will also be doing that every time i get tired of a theme instead of just flashing a new ROM..im guessing themes are leaving pieces parts behind somewhere that don't play nice with a ROM reflash over it..
I have been having SOD issues ever since I rooted and got set up on SC 2.9.2. However today, I decided to leave my GPS on and since I did that I have not had any SOD. Granted today is not a perfect example because not 45 minutes went by without using my phone, but it seems to have made things better for now, except my battery drains because of it.
Here is the Tutorial I used for Root
http://www.fascinateforums.com/foru...21-how-root-your-fascinate-install-froyo.html
Then I used this tutorial for SC 2.9.2 (non Voodoo, yes i got the right zip)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983395
I'm running
Firmware Version
2.2.1
Baseband version
S:i500.04 V.EB01
Kernel version
2.6.32.9
Build Number
SCH-I500.EB01
I did TiB but have since uninstalled and used My Backup (free). I'm using GoLauncher and related apps. I do use YouMail and will not stop. I know its redundant but I installed the SOD patch too.
I'm going to try all the bandaid fixes first before re-flashing everything.
Search adrenalyne's threads. He had one with a sod patch.
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Alright, i have run into a problem.
I bricked my phone a while back so i flashed back to stock through ODIN. I used z4 root the first time i flashed so i used it again and everything seemed fine. i installed rom manager TB and everything was working fine. THEN, i flashed CyanogenMod- Trigger Redux build 17 through recovery.
Everything seemed fine at first, superuser was installed and i could grant permissions, CWMrecovery was working and everything was great.. but then...idk hooowwww, but busybox just didnt work and it said i wasnt rooted. TB stopped working. and all my other root needed apps didnt work because BusyBox wasnt running because of my missing root.
but recovery still works, superuser still works and gives me super user rights, and my rom still runs perfectly so ive been avoiding asking questions til now.
i heard to try fixing permissions and still no go. and z4 root wont work now (of course)
So i guess my question is: whats going on? do i have a bad root, did i not root completely, should i reroo?(if so, what method) what should i do?
If anyone knows what i should/could do please let me know.
Sorry for the noobness..
i also need some kernel info, but that can wait
Android version:
2.3.5
Kernel version:
2.6.35.7
Mod version:
CyonogenMod-Trigger Redux-build-17
try re-rooting with superonelick(latest version)
Flash the latest trigger. No data should be lost if you are running it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156123
If the problem persists (it won't) then download busybox from the market.
Worst case, use my noob guide to Odin and flash trigger.... 15 minutes tops
Oh, drhonks kernel, Bali is amazing with trigger
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181167
Thanks! I will give that a try tomorrow!
And I've looked at Bali and heard good things. Could I flash it without re-flashing trigger and "being rooted"
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Yes, but you need to update trigger. It doesn't wipe.
Alriiiight
Once again, Thank you!
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To allow Q&A to be separated from bugs/development - this is the Q&A thread for the I9100 Hellraiser found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335377
I intend to put FAQs here, along with keeping a list of tested ROMs. Keep general discussion here, and only use the other thread for bug reports and development.
In general: If it's listed as a known issue, and you don't have a fix, keep it out of the development thread. If you're not sure if it's Hellraiser-specific and common to multiple ROMs, keep it out of the development thread. In short, if you ask "Is this a bug?" in that thread, I will report it to the moderators. If you report a bug that is ROM-specific and not a Hellraiser issue, I will report those to the moderators starting tomorrow.
Tested ROMs:
I9100 XXKI3 Based:
SensatioN 1.8 by Crysis21 - Tested by myself with Alpha 0.2.1 - Fully working except 0.2.1 Known Issues, defaults to "good" AT&T APNs except for it has the "Broadband" APN which may cause the Tether Police to nail you if you tether. I suggest deleting that one.
VillainROM 3.0 + JKay Deluxe Themes v12 - Tested by myself with all versions, and my current "testbed"
I9100 XXKI4 Based:
CheckROM Revolution HD 2.0.0 - A few user reports indicate this may have WiFi issues when Hellraised similar to UCKJ2/J4 for I777
I9100 XWKJ2 Based:
CriskeloROM V30 + JKay Deluxe V12.1 - Reported by simpl3lang, seems to be working
If you have a report for a ROM, please indicate which I9100 firmware it is based on (XXKI3, XXKI4, etc.)
Also, I have seen reports that XWKK5 bases (like the latest CheckROM as of 1/8/2012) have the same issues with Bluetooth HID not working as UCKK6 - even when not Hellraised.
If someone posts a good, in-depth review of a ROM, I may link to it from this list. (Time permitting...)
Frequently Asked Questions:
Q: The home button lag is back, why?
A: The ROM has the annoying Vlingo double-tap support. Either smali it out (look for tips in the UnNamed ROM git repos, or look for a fix for that ROM.) - A commonly available fix may be flashing a JKay Deluxe Theme appropriate for the base of your ROM
Q: Home button haptic feedback is not working, why?
This is something that can't be "universally fixed" with Hellraiser. It must be modified in an individual manner for every ROM in android.policy.jar with some smali magic. It was the same deal with I9000 ROM ports to the Captivate.
Q: Where do I find themes/mods?
Look through the I9100 Themes/Apps forum for mods/themes appropriate to your ROM. Nothing I do in the Hellraising process should break any of these compatibility-wise.
i finally jumped on board and installed an i9100 rom. so far so good. im loving it. first install went smooth. root working and all. i dont know about battery life (my phone still plugged in while testing this out).
okay here is the rom ive installed "CriskeloRom V30-S-BAR-12/7-Tog-BLN-CallREC-Overscroll-7Locks-PWR-M-Esxt-(XWKJ2-2.3.5)"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168836
i have also installed JKAY DELUXE SETTINGS v12.1 <--great addon. lets you have multiple slide to unlock (AOSP lockscreen). option to remove home double tap. option to customize power options (extended). crt off/on animation. overscroll glow. all these options and more on this DELUXE SETTINGS app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154278
so far im loving it. this will be my rom for now. thanks ENTROPY for the great HELLRAISER.. you the man
edit: alright i have tried wifi tether. its not working. i know its mentioned in the known issues. the workaround doesnt seem to work for me at least ......i enabled changed ssid and password. but once i exit settings, it reverts back to borkness lol. any other workaround? thanks
Edit 2: nevermind i figured it out. I rmmbered i replaced the Settings.apk with one that has a theme i like. That borked wifi tether for me. I returned the settings apk i replaced, rebooted, and all is good
I just wanted to bump this to the top... this thread needs to be stickied! How do I ask a mod to sticky it?
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Good question - I know in the Infuse section some ROM Q&As were stickied, but they don't do that in other forums.
Plus at least this is CLEARLY linked to from the main Hellraiser thread.
Hellraiser doesn't seem to work with the new 1.9 sensation update, unless I'm doing something wrong. A popup saying the process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly comes up repeatedly as the app restarts. Seems like a modem error, the sim card isn't read properly either. I'm about to try hacking the updater script to remove the kernal and modem changes, is there anything I would need to do other than delete those lines and repack it?
I did reinstall hellraiser after the update.
selfassembled said:
Hellraiser doesn't seem to work with the new 1.9 sensation update, unless I'm doing something wrong. A popup saying the process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly comes up repeatedly as the app restarts. Seems like a modem error, the sim card isn't read properly either. I'm about to try hacking the updater script to remove the kernal and modem changes, is there anything I would need to do other than delete those lines and repack it?
I did reinstall hellraiser after the update.
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You must be doing something wrong... I am running 1.9 and have been since the test build.. I will post some screen shots in a moment
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Here are some screen shots... check out my battery life ..
I did have it hooked to a computer while 1.9 downloaded and that's why you see that slight bump...
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How did you install specifically?
I can't get it running. I've tried updating 1.8 and doing a fresh install and flashing hell raiser afterwards but the com.android.phone app crashes and signal is lost upon reboot. It actually works until I reboot.
selfassembled said:
How did you install specifically?
I can't get it running. I've tried updating 1.8 and doing a fresh install and flashing hell raiser afterwards but the com.android.phone app crashes and signal is lost upon reboot. It actually works until I reboot.
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I had 1.8 flashed 1.9 on top without wipe.
Mounted system and data and then flashed hellraiser on top. And haven't had any issues.
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An i9100 modem/kernel will NOT work, that's for sure.
In fact some of the behaviors you mention sound kind of like a classic example of accidentally running an I9100 modem. The rest sound like a classic example of not wiping or doing an improper TiBu restore.
I'll try to test tonight.
It may have been titanium backup, I also didn't remount before hell raising. I'll get it working if he did
Hi Entropy, do you have any idea why the tethering settings are not persistant?
I remounted before flashing and still had the problem. When restoring backup I used advanced restore and found that the culprit is in system, not boot. I don't have the time for a full wipe today.
If it works for entropy I'll just do another full wipe and not restore anything. Thanks for your time on this.
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Hi Entropy, do you have any idea why the tethering settings are not persistant?
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Not yet, haven't had time to mess with it yet.
selfassembled said:
I remounted before flashing and still had the problem. When restoring backup I used advanced restore and found that the culprit is in system, not boot. I don't have the time for a full wipe today.
If it works for entropy I'll just do another full wipe and not restore anything. Thanks for your time on this.
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Titanium backup always give me problems so I just don't use it anymore...
Have you tried a fresh install without titanium backup?
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CheckROM RevolutionHD v3.1.1
I tried raisin' hell with CheckROM RevolutionHD 3.1.1 last night. This is an XWJK3 based ROM, and seemed to work fine. I was intrigued with the idea of having a kitchen in the ROM to customize it and wanted to check it out. Everything seemed to run and work ok. Home button lag and lack of haptic feedback were known and expected. There were a couple of things though -
1) The phone ran really hot. Like skin singeing hot. There was another post on the CheckROM thread that talked about the phone running hot. But I noticed the same problem with a hellraised VillainROM as well. So not sure if that is a hellraiser issue or a ROM specific issue. I do know about the media scanner crashing due to incompatible codecs between Samsung derived ROMs and CM7/MIUI, I didn't get a chance to see if getting rid of my media would fix it because of issue 2...
2) The kitchen app while great in theory, isn't quite there in practice yet it seems like. I tried installing a few mods from the kitchen, but a lot of times downloads failed. I tried installing the BlueMonkey theme from the kitchen and it caused the phone to bootloop. There are quite a few people talking about bootloops on the ROM page, so I am leaning towards this being a ROM or kernel incompatibility issue. I have never had bootloops or anything nearly as funky with any of the native I777 ROMs. I had to flash back to bone stock to recover. Thank god for Nandroids
So, I guess it is ok to the add XWJK3 based ROMs to the compatible list if Entropy thinks both of the above two issues are not hellraiser related.
I've never had heat problems on VillainROM hellraised.
I've been starting to hear that CheckROM 3.1.1 has a lot of issues with the kitchen app - as in 3.1.1 has issues in general. I've seen lots of comments about people sticking with 2.0.0 until it matures.
I only tried CheckROM VERY briefly - enough to confirm that wifi worked (as there was a negative report on wifi with CR 2.0.0)
I'll update the list later this week.
GingerMod
Thank you for this awesome tool, Entropy! You can add GingerMod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220283) to your list of XXKI3 ROMs that work well Hellraised.
I've quickly tested out everything I can think of from a fresh install (wipe everything, format/system) and no problems to report. Wifi tethering has the minor problem of reverting to default settings, but they work, so it's not an issue in the slightest for me. Default APN settings are the same as on UnNamed--ATT Phone and ATT WAP. Home button haptic works out of the box--I didn't do anything.
For those interested, some quick hits about this great ROM:
- Most Samsungyness removed, really convincing AOSP feel. It's not just a theme, it's rebuilt. Just a few niceties such as Camera, Browser, FM Radio remain. You can add back whatever Samsung features you want.
- Small, 1/2 size compared to stock ROMs
- There is no lengthy screen on delay during calls when removing phone from your face (present in UnNamed)
- Customizable via included "Extras" settings and JKay app
- Been stable for awhile. Over at the thread, you won't notice a lot of random issues or people clamoring for "fixes". It's just really complete.
Hi, I just recently came back to this forum, pleased to find that we now have CM10 working on Amaze ! (Thank you sportsstar!)
However I did have a couple issues when installing, and seeing as how a lot of people in the CM10 thread asked to redirect questions here, I figured I make a thread.
My problem is that it seems as though no matter what I install, there is always a problem. As far as I know, I am using the basic ICS-Ruby kernel that was dumped 6+ months ago. I installed the CM10 rom using 4EXT, with no issues.
However when I installed the Gapps (gapps-jb-20130301-signed) I constantly had the Android keyboard force close on me. So instead I tried to install the JB-4.2-Gapps-signed. With these, the Android keyboard would not force close but the Google Now search app would force close everytime.
I've also tried installing the DARK GLASS 0.6 ROM by jose, but then the wifi would not turn on. (When I would try to turn it on, it would just hang saying "Turning on Wifi").
It is probably worth mentioning that I did do a full wipe everytime I installed the CM10 rom. I was sure to be very thorough. When I installed DARK GLASS 0.6 ROM, again, I did a full format of partiitions, and a wipe. Still the issues above arise.
Can someone maybe help me out as to what I'm doing wrong? Thanks!
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EDIT: I just looked at my phone info, and apparently the kernel I'm using is 3.0.53-gd28c6eb. Is this okay or do I need to flash a new kernel ?
Hi,
I'm having this issue where I get a pop-up window saying "Android is upgrading..." and "Starting applications..." every time I reboot the phone. It's not the same as when I wipe the dalvik cache where it states "Optimizing applications # through #" for about a minute or two on reboot. What I'm seeing is about 1 to 3 seconds.
I did a complete factory reset, re-flashed the ICS RUU as well as the ROM. It was fine in the beginning and for quite a while after I reinstalled my apps but it eventually came back.
I tried uninstalling apps a few at a time and it didn't change anything until I got down to the last four and then it went away. So, I then tried restoring from nandroid backup and just removing those four apps but it didn't work that time. The issue was unaffected.
I realize that the symptoms point to one or more of my apps but I was wondering if there is some kind of diagnostic logger that I can use to record whats happening during reboot that might offer some hints as to which one(s). One possible indirect culprit might be Superuser. I've had a permanent issue with updating the SU binary. When I do, I lose the ability to add new root apps. I keep root for existing root apps, but SU won't detect any requests from new apps. Therefore, I simply don't update the binary and I have no problems with new apps.
Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
RuLEoF2 said:
Hi,
I'm having this issue where I get a pop-up window saying "Android is upgrading..." and "Starting applications..." every time I reboot the phone. It's not the same as when I wipe the dalvik cache where it states "Optimizing applications # through #" for about a minute or two on reboot. What I'm seeing is about 1 to 3 seconds.
I did a complete factory reset, re-flashed the ICS RUU as well as the ROM. It was fine in the beginning and for quite a while after I reinstalled my apps but it eventually came back.
I tried uninstalling apps a few at a time and it didn't change anything until I got down to the last four and then it went away. So, I then tried restoring from nandroid backup and just removing those four apps but it didn't work that time. The issue was unaffected.
I realize that the symptoms point to one or more of my apps but I was wondering if there is some kind of diagnostic logger that I can use to record whats happening during reboot that might offer some hints as to which one(s). One possible indirect culprit might be Superuser. I've had a permanent issue with updating the SU binary. When I do, I lose the ability to add new root apps. I keep root for existing root apps, but SU won't detect any requests from new apps. Therefore, I simply don't update the binary and I have no problems with new apps.
Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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1.) How did you root the rez? some are very picky 2.) are you using Titanium backup to restore system apps or using an app like kernel tuner?
I used the ICS RUU installation guide on TeamBAMF which walks you through using the HTC bootloader unlocker, flashing a recovery and a custom ROM. Later on, I used the S-OFF tool from JuopunutBear and flashed RezROM Ex 3.4.
I do use TBU but not to restore system apps or any data in general. I understood a long time ago that restoring data can lead to trouble so I rarely do it. I occasionally use TBU to restore user apps (no data) but have gotten into the habit of using the market links to get the app directly from the market.
RuLEoF2 said:
I used the ICS RUU installation guide on TeamBAMF which walks you through using the HTC bootloader unlocker, flashing a recovery and a custom ROM. Later on, I used the S-OFF tool from JuopunutBear and flashed RezROM Ex 3.4.
I do use TBU but not to restore system apps or any data in general. I understood a long time ago that restoring data can lead to trouble so I rarely do it. I occasionally use TBU to restore user apps (no data) but have gotten into the habit of using the market links to get the app directly from the market.
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what recovery are you using? Amon ra 3.1.6 has the su and superuser installer built in and ive never had issues....id also suggest after actually running an RUU.exe and not an OTA (ph98img file) to do the amon ra method and a pure clean flash...should fix your issue
Ok. I'll try your suggestion to help solve the Superuser problem, but what do you think about getting rid of the "upgrading" messages? Is there a way to record what the system is doing during reboot?
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Ok. I'll try your suggestion to help solve the Superuser problem, but what do you think about getting rid of the "upgrading" messages? Is there a way to record what the system is doing during reboot?
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if you are familliar with adb you can pull a logcat....to be honest though this does sound like either a bad or unclean flash of a rom or the whole rom itself
REV3NT3CH said:
if you are familliar with adb you can pull a logcat....to be honest though this does sound like either a bad or unclean flash of a rom or the whole rom itself
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You are correct that the re-flash will solve the problem, but only temporarily. If this was a first time occurrence, I agree that a pure clean re-flash is the best approach but I've already done that numerous times, well over a dozen in the past year or so.
Only a couple weeks ago I did a complete wipe of everything (factory reset, data, cache, dalvik cache, boot, system, rotate settings AND battery stats) and then re-flashed the RUU four (4) times back-to-back. The TeamBAMF guide says to flash it twice so I doubled it to be sure. I then flashed the ROM twice. That solved the "Updating" problem as it always has. However, once I finished re-installing my most frequently used apps, the problem came back.
It hasn't been consistent. It doesn't always come back. Doing the wipe and re-flash works about 50% of the time. I'll go months without it showing up again and then all of the sudden, there it is. It doesn't seem to correlate to the installation of any one particular app. I've tried installing only a few at a time and watching it but when it does come back, it never occurs until after I've installed my most basic line-up.
If there is any one activity that it seems to follow it is after I've had another issue (usually tinkering with a root app or mod and didn't like the way it turned out) and performed a wipe and nandroid restore. It doesn't come back every time, but it's on that initial reboot when I usually first notice it. In those cases, it's always hard to say whether the root app or mod caused the problem or did the wipe and restore do it.
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You are correct that the re-flash will solve the problem, but only temporarily. If this was a first time occurrence, I agree that a pure clean re-flash is the best approach but I've already done that numerous times, well over a dozen in the past year or so.
Only a couple weeks ago I did a complete wipe of everything (factory reset, data, cache, dalvik cache, boot, system, rotate settings AND battery stats) and then re-flashed the RUU four (4) times back-to-back. The TeamBAMF guide says to flash it twice so I doubled it to be sure. I then flashed the ROM twice. That solved the "Updating" problem as it always has. However, once I finished re-installing my most frequently used apps, the problem came back.
It hasn't been consistent. It doesn't always come back. Doing the wipe and re-flash works about 50% of the time. I'll go months without it showing up again and then all of the sudden, there it is. It doesn't seem to correlate to the installation of any one particular app. I've tried installing only a few at a time and watching it but when it does come back, it never occurs until after I've installed my most basic line-up.
If there is any one activity that it seems to follow it is after I've had another issue (usually tinkering with a root app or mod and didn't like the way it turned out) and performed a wipe and nandroid restore. It doesn't come back every time, but it's on that initial reboot when I usually first notice it. In those cases, it's always hard to say whether the root app or mod caused the problem or did the wipe and restore do it.
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which leads me to believe its a rom issue for that specific rom...ive never used that one so i cant verify thats what it for sure is....but having to flash the same rom twice for it to work seems like what can cause it in the first place because it already obviously clearly has some bugs...also flashing an RUU (which is a windows .exe based program...many people confuse this with an OTA ph98img file) is actually partitioning, wiping, and re installing the pure factory OS, HBOOT, and Recovery... which no recovery can do....which shouldnt be done directly before a rom install...a full thorough wipe in a custom recovery and then the install of the actual rom you are trying to obtain is how it should be done...to be honest though with how buggy this rom sounds id just suggest going to a new rom....which i have good suggestions for sense based ones
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which leads me to believe its a rom issue for that specific rom...ive never used that one so i cant verify thats what it for sure is....but having to flash the same rom twice for it to work seems like what can cause it in the first place because it already obviously clearly has some bugs...also flashing an RUU (which is a windows .exe based program...many people confuse this with an OTA ph98img file) is actually partitioning, wiping, and re installing the pure factory OS, HBOOT, and Recovery... which no recovery can do....which shouldnt be done directly before a rom install...a full thorough wipe in a custom recovery and then the install of the actual rom you are trying to obtain is how it should be done...to be honest though with how buggy this rom sounds id just suggest going to a new rom....which i have good suggestions for sense based ones
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Well, if you wouldn't mind offering some of your ROM suggestions and perhaps a sound RUU download source I'll give it a go and see what happens. I'm sure the initial results will be positive, it's the long-term that will be the real test.
One more piece of potentially useful information. I've converted one market app from user to system and froze, uninstalled or converted several user apps that were installed as system apps by the ROM. I read in one thread where someone had the same issue and a responder theorized that it could be from converting a user app to system. The responder followed saying the issue could be a symptom of the converted app not having corresponding "odex" files. I'm only a modest tinkerer and certainly not a developer so I'm not sure what that means or how important that is. However, I tried reversing the three conversions that I did and the issue persisted.
RuLEoF2 said:
Well, if you wouldn't mind offering some of your ROM suggestions and perhaps a sound RUU download source I'll give it a go and see what happens. I'm sure the initial results will be positive, it's the long-term that will be the real test.
One more piece of potentially useful information. I've converted one market app from user to system and froze, uninstalled or converted several user apps that were installed as system apps by the ROM. I read in one thread where someone had the same issue and a responder theorized that it could be from converting a user app to system. The responder followed saying the issue could be a symptom of the converted app not having corresponding "odex" files. I'm only a modest tinkerer and certainly not a developer so I'm not sure what that means or how important that is. However, I tried reversing the three conversions that I did and the issue persisted.
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if youve already used an ruu once you dont need to do it everytime you flash a rom....and depending on the rom certain recoveries wont work for them...good example amon ra will not work for JB or higher....if staying on ICS or sense based roms stick with amon ra only....im guessing your looking for a good Sense based rom correct?.....as for converting apps...i highly suggest against it on sense rom and can cause issues with the rom...on aosp its fine but sense just doesnt like some of them
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if youve already used an ruu once you dont need to do it everytime you flash a rom....and depending on the rom certain recoveries wont work for them...good example amon ra will not work for JB or higher....if staying on ICS or sense based roms stick with amon ra only....im guessing your looking for a good Sense based rom correct?.....as for converting apps...i highly suggest against it on sense rom and can cause issues with the rom...on aosp its fine but sense just doesnt like some of them
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My mistake, but I should have been more specific. I've only re-flashed the RUU three... maybe four times since I've owned the phone and only as a last resort to fix a problem that a wipe and/or ROM re-flash alone wasn't correcting.
As for recovery, I've only used Amon Ra on my Rezound. It's what was recommended in the Team BAMF guide and I've stuck with it. I do prefer a sense-based ROM and ICS works fine for me right now. The HTC Incredible was my first smart phone and I rooted that within a month of getting it. I tried a few ROMs but eventually settled on Skyraider which I really liked. RezROM is the only comperable ROM that I've come accross for the Rezound, but if you have recommendations, I'll give them a try.
Here's what I've done so far. The ICS RUU linked in the Team BAMF guide was an internal flash through the bootloader. To eliminate that as a possible cause, I found a couple .exe versions to run from my PC.
On the first run, I immediately flashed RezROM and used Amon Ra to install Superuser and SU as you suggested. I updated Superuser and then installed a few basic root apps: Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, QuickBoot, Busy Box, Root Checker and Root Validator. There were no issues until I starting using those root apps. I was periodically rebooting and it wasn't until I updated Busybox and ran TBU and Root Explorer that the "Android is upgrading..." message came back. Worse than before, it was doing the "Optomizing apps # through ##" part where before it was just the "upgrading" message. I uninstalled all of them one-by-one but whatever happened was perminant because it didn't go away so I did a full wipe and used the second ICS RUU .exe. On the second run I stayed stock. Again, I used Amon Ra to install Superuser and SU. I updated Superuser and then installed those same basic root apps. So far, no issues.
With these results, it's pretty evident that the problem is ROM related, but not necessarily a bug as much as a compatibility discrepancy. This issue has never been this persistent until the last few months and within that time, there has been several updates for TBU, Root Explorer and Busybox. I agree that switching to a different ROM may be the ultimate solution, but unless there is one that is a RezROM comparable, I'm not ready to write it off just yet. If there's a way to pin point which app is the cause, I might be able to find a workaround or persuade the developer to come up with a fix, I'd much rather try that first.
But again, I'm certainly interested in trying out any ROM suggestions you might have to offer in the meantime.
In the process of trying to nail down this problem, I've discovered that it appears to have something to do with the relationship between superuser and RezROM.
Since I first flashed RezROM, I haven't been able to update superuser or the binary in any way. In addition to downloading from the market, I've tried re-installing superuser with Amon Ra, flashing it from the sdcard in recovery and from adb. No matter how I do it, I either lose root or it shuts down superuser's ability to detect requests from new root apps. I tried to find a solution but had no success so I just decided to ignore it as long as it didn't effect functionality. I've had root app issues here and there but always chalked it up to a bug with that particular app and either found a fix or ditched the app altogether.
I've been able to isolate superuser as the cause of the "upgrading" message issue with several full wipes, RezROM and RUU re-flashes. In my last three attempts to narrow it down, I did completely sterile RUU and RezROM flashes and used Root Explorer and Root Checker as test apps. In each attempt, I lost root and the "upgrading" messages returned as soon as I updated superuser or the binary. I tried doing the same with the stock ROM and with one of the BAMF ROMs and these problems don't occur with either of them.
So, with the "Android is upgrading" message popping up repeatedly, having new stability problems with previously dependable apps and increasing system bugs, it's apparent that the consequences of having such a severely outdated superuser has finally caught up with me. It definitely looks like RezROM is the problem and unless there are some options that I might try to fix it myself, it's up to the developer. I've contacted them but I'm not optimistic that they'll be willing to put any time into coming up with a fix since the Rezound is so "dated".
I had this popup on every boot on my Evo 3D with the stock ICS Sense 3.6 ROM, I still have it on my Rezound with a custom ICS Sense 4.1 ROM. I just assumed it's standard behaviour from Android, why would you think it's an issue if it doesn't cause any problems?