I think I found my culprit. Here check this out. Y is maps waking my phone 135 times?! It's only spouse to be doing it 1 time every 3 hrs. And that's for HTC clock. Any ideas on what would keep trying to get my location? the only sync i have set up is weather for the htc clock. but that updates every 3 hrs. google now is turned off, and so are all the setting in the maps app its self. however i do have both stand alone and google location services checked in location settings under settings. but not verizon. screen on time was about 1 hr. but data was turned off, and i dident touch my phone all day.
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Does this for me too. Very annoying.
ZigZagJoe said:
Does this for me too. Very annoying.
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yea its up at like 18% its the highest one under screen. like i have data turned off, under volted, and under clocked, and im getting 10 hrs with 2 hrs of screen on... if not less... its kinda messed up how its trying to get my location when i have data turned offf.
It appears you have Latitude enabled... disable it and your battery usage should drop significantly. Go into Maps - Settings - Location Settings and make sure Location Reporting is set to "Do not update your location" and all other options in this area are toggled off. Otherwise your location is constantly being reported back to Google for Latitude services, causing it to never being able to sleep properly.
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It appears you have Latitude enabled... disable it and your battery usage should drop significantly. Go into Maps - Settings - Location Settings and make sure Location Reporting is set to "Do not update your location" and all other options in this area are toggled off. Otherwise your location is constantly being reported back to Google for Latitude services, causing it to never being able to sleep properly.
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it is off. along with all other settings.... all off. thats y its stumping me lol
Happens to me too.
95% of the time, its fine. Every once in awhile though, some service that Maps runs in the background (Latitude maybe?) seems to lock up and I find Maps destroying my battery. Usually I just restart my phone and it fixes it again.
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Happens to me too.
95% of the time, its fine. Every once in awhile though, some service that Maps runs in the background (Latitude maybe?) seems to lock up and I find Maps destroying my battery. Usually I just restart my phone and it fixes it again.
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just shut off location then rebooted. gonna try that, but i dont think it will work considering i restarted it like 4 times lol....
use super manager to disable friend service
i have friend stream, stocks, etc and all that frozen already
alright i think i figured it out.
maps works in conjunction with google location service.
if i look aty power settings in settings, i fid that maps is using between 4- 18% mostly in the double digits. now if i go to running in the apps section, it shows that maps and google services r running. if i click maps, it shows google location service, and maps. if i click on google services, it shows network location service, google messaging service, and google services. now if i go into GSam, it shows me that maps is top of the list, and number of wake locks is 121, #of times waking device is 105. gps ussgae is 2m 9 seconds, and cpu is 19 secs.
now yesturday gps ussage was 20mins, and number of wakes was 160. i did nothing different but restart the phone. i have my data turned off most of the day. sine im in school, i only look at the screen like 10x at most during the 7hr day of school. if i look at time up it is- 18hrs, and time off is 8hrs. maps and google services have been running for 5+hrs and counting. so something is trying to track my location through the google service and i know its not htc flip clock, cause i only have that set to every 3 hrs. my location dosent change at all during the day sonce im in 1 building all day.
any ideas, or apps out there that will tell me what is trying to get my location even when data is off???? i neeeeeeeed this fixed. im getting horriblke battery life. from morning to out of school when my screen on time is 30 mins at most, i ned the school day at like 60-50% and for not using it at all, it should be at 90-75ish. i can barley go through a whole day without hitting the charger....
Yeah. So turn off GPS when you aren't using it. I only enable it when I am routing or using maps. Otherwise, it just wastes battery.
redbean25 said:
Yeah. So turn off GPS when you aren't using it. I only enable it when I am routing or using maps. Otherwise, it just wastes battery.
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but i use the htc flip clock
Quadrider10 said:
but i use the htc flip clock
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You don't need GPS for the clock. Just VZW and maybe google location
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You don't need GPS for the clock. Just VZW and maybe google location
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thanks for help
you need google location. but its google location that causing the problem.... im almost 100% sure. like maps is running, but under processes and services, its showing stuff from google services/location.
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thanks for help
you need google location. but its google location that causing the problem.... im almost 100% sure. like maps is running, but under processes and services, its showing stuff from google services/location.
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You said GPS so which is it. You will always get google locations for the clock but it uses very little battery
Just use titanium backup widget to freeze maps
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You said GPS so which is it. You will always get google locations for the clock but it uses very little battery
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it should, but it shnot....
im almost positive it is google locations that making it wake up 160 times. i have the clock set to 3hrs to auto update. but keep in mind that its doing this even when data is turned off. so no 3g, 4g, E, etc.
in setting>power, it shows maps.
when i go into apps, then running tab in settings, then click maps, its telling me that the service is "Google Location Service" and the process is "maps"but then when it says location/description, it says com.android.apps.maps:GoogleLocationService.
when i click on google servises in running apps, the 2 services are Network Location service and Google messaging service. the processes are "Google Services" and the location/description is com.google.process.gapps
I have GPS enabled 24/7 and don't notice any problems except when Google Maps goes berserk and starts killing my battery. Normally, leaving GPS on doesn't drain the battery too much. I even have Backitude using GPS to update my location on Latitude every 10 minutes and it really doesn't hardly use any power at all...
im gonna download an app called startup auditor which auto kills everything, and ima see if it imporves....
Since you said you have frozen a number of apps, did you freeze HTC Location Service using Titanium. I don't know what it does, but someone else had suggested getting rid of it. Since I froze it, I have not noticed any negative feedback.
I don't know if it will make any difference to your situation. I am currently at 14 hours since last charge and have 130 wake locks in Maps. I also use GPS/Maps for an hour every morning while it tracks me using Cardio Trainer so I don't know if that would affect the wake locks.
I know I have heard people say this, but I just don't get that problem... I leave my GPS and all location services on all the time, use the Maps app daily (I deliver pizza part time) and never have battery drain issues. My personal phone is typically idle from 7:30 in the morning when I pull it off the charger until 5:00pm when I go to work, and I rarely use more than 1% per hour. The only app I have issues with is Facebook, and I just kill all tasks with ES Task Manager before blanking he screen after I use it (couple times per day). In my opinion. Facebook is one very misbehaving app, it reports your location and uses GPS even when you have all options turned off in it's settings, plus it will use it periodically if you have FB notifications turned on too. If you using the notifications, the Facebook app will even respawn by itself if you kill it, it's a very bad app! And with some battery monitors, any GPS activity will be reported as Maps! (GSam Battery Monitor is bad for this)
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My installed application list:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/samjuan
I have exchange, yahoo and hotmail, of which only exchange is set to push from 8 to 5 and then everything else is set to manual.
Gmail and all other services (whatsapp, tango, viber... etc) are set to push all the time.
Brightness is set to auto and I have a jawbone era Bluetooth headset that is connected all the time.
I am running on official i9100JPKF3 with I9100XXKF1 as the modem.
I just want your advice and opinion and to share my application list and experience.
I would be very thankful and appreciative if you turn around and walk away if you think I shouldn't have opened a new battery thread and/or my post wasnt up to your standards.
Thank you in advance.
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1 hour 12 min screen time and so little battery left is a bit less than normal. I get around 4 hours of screen time before my battery dies.
There seems to be a huge amount of time where the screen is not on but the phone is wide awake, which means high battery consumption. If you're talking on the phone or listening to music at these times when the screen is on, then it's normal. If not, then there is some app or widget keeping the device awake.
try freezing "wifi sharing" as well. Not sure if that helps but i see alot of wifi battery use.
Thank you for your reply.
In the case of calls, it is only 30 min as indicated by the pic above.
I do not listen to music on my phone at all, neither I have many widgets, the only widgets I have are: Modern Clock, Google Search, Accuweather.com widget set to refresh every 3 hours, Month widget.
also I have the windy weather live wallpaper and it is set to refresh every 1 hour.
So you mean that is not normal for stock configuration?
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try freezing "wifi sharing" as well. Not sure if that helps but i see alot of wifi battery use.
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I am not rooted and do not wish to TBH.
however, I try to be connected to wifi for data as much as possible, as I have read somewhere that it does have better effect on battery than cellular data connection, that is why you see a lot of wifi.
One question please. How do you get the first screenshot ?
I can see wifi activity that suppose you have wifi enable all the time, is that right? As you can read, wifi sharing and other stuff around are battery consumers. You can read litening thread about this.
Other question, did you disable fast dormancy *#*#9900#*#* ?
And samsung apps disable notification even in wifi mode...
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One question please. How do you get the first screenshot ?
I can see wifi activity that suppose you have wifi enable all the time, is that right? As you can read, wifi sharing and other stuff around are battery consumers. You can read litening thread about this.
Other question, did you disable fast dormancy *#*#9900#*#* ?
And samsung apps disable notification even in wifi mode...
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Screenshot: Settings --> Applications --> Battery usage --> Click on the upper graph, to take the screenshot (in case this is what you are asking about) hold home then immediately click the power button.
I have read about process freeze and other root activities, which I am not interested in.
I have also read that fast dormancy has no real effect on battery life, have you tried it yourself and did it work effectively? what was the difference in your case?
Thank you for the samsung apps thing, I will try that and see.
Just to clarify, I am not complaining about battery life or anything, I am just sharing my experience to make sure that whether this is normal or I am missing out on anything.
Regarding the fast dormancy stuff, I have read this thread and got contradicting results that confused me (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111581&page=4) I did have the "data network stuck" problem, but after factory format and with a little over 44 hours of uptime, I still didn't face it. I am afraid it is going to pop up again if I alter this setting. besides, fast dormancy is a network feature, I will check with my provider to see if they support it or not, although I get H+ in most of the locations I have been in while using data.
Has anybody confirmed that wifi sharing is the culprit, or even Ms exchange emails?
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I think everyone was seeing wifi sharing showing up quite a bit under battery usage stats. It was using a good amount of battery on mine.
Wifi sharing, is there a way to disable it without root?
On another note, charging from 5% to full charge takes almost 3 hours and 45 minutes, is this normal?
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@OP- If you haven't already done then calibrate your battery with Battery Calibration app by Nema from Market.
For me it worked pretty well.
Regards.
I am using litening ROM since v1.1
When version 1.5 was delivered, litepro rollbacked the delivery during one day or two days. Because, I was using v1.4, modem ke7 was the version I used and I tried to flash only the modem version to upgrade to the latest one (kf2). The benefit was important not only with data up but also when I put my phone in plane mode. But, I saw also a great improvement when I flashed the version 1.5 of litening with wifi sharing removed.
I don't really use data all day but for me with many samsung apps freezed with titanium backup (social, game, ... Hub). I have a great improvement with this rom. I will try to activate data and wifi all day tomorrow to see the battery impact.
without any custom roms, root related activities or any other warranty voiding stuff, do you guys still think that my battery utilization is abnormal with the amount of usage I have?
I have been experimenting with battery life and different scenarios, uninstalled Facebook, Twitter, Skype, fring and nimbuzz... However battery life didn't increase.
So decided to switch off data completely, and only work on wireless whenever available.
Looking at the screenshots below, i still see awake times with screen off, especially in the last periods...
My question is, how can I check what is keeping the phone "awake" while screen is off?
Thank you in advance.
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You can check it with Watchdog but it will also drain some battery. So use ATK, you won't have a non-synchronized Awake and Screen On bar.
Regards.
jcsy said:
Has anybody confirmed that wifi sharing is the culprit, or even Ms exchange emails?
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Ms-exchange is the one for me... I then switched to "Enhanced email" and it had fixed battery life quite good..
download CPU SPY from the market and see if your phone is going into deep sleep.
reset the timers, then one by one, change variables until you find the culprit.
What's the difference between having location services on or off? I know this might be a dumb question, but the little compass icon seems to always be in the notification bar on my DNA. I can't remember if it was always like that or if it only started after downloading Tasker last week. I tried uninstalling Tasker, but it's still there all the time. I know I can turn it off in settings, but should I? Do I need Verizon, Standalone, and Google location services?
Also- lately Maps has been showing up at the top of the list for battery usage. Every day it shows like 60-70% usage with the next closest in the teens. I haven't used maps a lot, and it hasn't really seemed to affect battery life, but I'm wondering if this is related to location services. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks!
For me personally, when I left Verizon Location Services on my battery drained extremely fast and the little location services icon showed that it was active (three lines coming off the right side). When I turned Verizon services off and disabled location updating in Maps my battery increased enormously and the icon no longer showed activity constantly.
I now leave only Google location services on and manually turn on GPS when I need it. No issues since.
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Thrillhouse847 said:
For me personally, when I left Verizon Location Services on my battery drained extremely fast and the little location services icon showed that it was active (three lines coming off the right side). When I turned Verizon services off and disabled location updating in Maps my battery increased enormously and the icon no longer showed activity constantly.
I now leave only Google location services on and manually turn on GPS when I need it. No issues since.
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My battery actually hasn't been draining all that fast, it just seems to show that "maps" uses 60-70% of the battery even in a day where I don't open the application once. I leave gps on but as others have mentioned the phone only uses it when it needs to (evidenced by the satellite icon in the notification bar). I have had gps on since I got the phone but in the first few weeks maps showed as using more like 5-10% of the battery. Can anyone explain what I lose by turning off each of Verizon, Google and Standalone location services?
Standalone is for actual GPS navigation I believe. Where as Google location service is used for getting location for weather and whatnot. I leave Google on all the time and only use standalone for navigation. But I may be completely wrong lol
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DbZ Gokuu said:
Standalone is for actual GPS navigation I believe. Where as Google location service is used for getting location for weather and whatnot. I leave Google on all the time and only use standalone for navigation. But I may be completely wrong lol
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Nope, you're correct.
I had issues with the weather widget showing incorrect location if Verizon Services is enabled. I only use Google services and enable stand alone for navigation use.
qwertpiratej said:
My battery actually hasn't been draining all that fast, it just seems to show that "maps" uses 60-70% of the battery even in a day where I don't open the application once. I leave gps on but as others have mentioned the phone only uses it when it needs to (evidenced by the satellite icon in the notification bar). I have had gps on since I got the phone but in the first few weeks maps showed as using more like 5-10% of the battery. Can anyone explain what I lose by turning off each of Verizon, Google and Standalone location services?
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I figured it out... leaving NFC enabled all the time for some reason shows up as Maps usage in battery life. I turned NFC off, and the next day Maps was back down to around 5%.
qwertpiratej said:
I figured it out... leaving NFC enabled all the time for some reason shows up as Maps usage in battery life. I turned NFC off, and the next day Maps was back down to around 5%.
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qwertpiratej said:
My battery actually hasn't been draining all that fast, it just seems to show that "maps" uses 60-70% of the battery even in a day where I don't open the application once. I leave gps on but as others have mentioned the phone only uses it when it needs to (evidenced by the satellite icon in the notification bar). I have had gps on since I got the phone but in the first few weeks maps showed as using more like 5-10% of the battery. Can anyone explain what I lose by turning off each of Verizon, Google and Standalone location services?
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I do not use NFC at all, It has been disabled since day 1. I have noticed my MAPS taking up 40-50% of the battery and I never use it. The only thing I enable is googles location services. and when I do use maps, I turn GPS on manually and then off when finished.
My FIX:
When I opened up MAPS, I went into settings > location settings and set location reporting to do not update your location.
This knocked MAPS off my battery usage list
NOTE: The issue is not with the Android Dropbox app, it's with Dropbox on your Mac or PC on the same network as your phone.
I was having a bad battery drain on my phone while connected to my home Wifi - as much as 3-6% per hour while the screen was off. This happened both on the stock ROM as well as CM9 and CM10. I finally figured out the cause - the dropbox program on my regular computer had an option called "enable lan sync" turned on. Apparently this makes your computer constantly send out broadcast traffic across your wifi network to all devices on your network. Some phone modems will see that broadcast traffic and wake up, meaning very little deep sleep, meaning poor battery life. I disabled lan sync on the computer and now the battery life on my phone is insanely better! It drains maybe 1% per hour. Note this doesn't affect all phones, just certain chipsets/modems. The Galaxy Note seems to be one of the ones affected.
I've been monitoring wakelocks with BetterBatteryState for awhile, and always say a wlan_rx_wake under kernel wakelocks. I Googled periodically for a cause and couldn't find anything. Tonight I got lucky and found what I needed to narrow down the issue.
It hasn't completely stopped the wlan_rx_wake wakelocks (I suspect the ones I'm still seeing are for real wifi use like background synching), but it has made it drastically better.
No issues here with dropbox and Google drive on my phone.
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No issues here with dropbox and Google drive on my phone.
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Did you even read the post? The issue is when you have Dropbox installed on a PC (or a Mac) on the same network and the Dropbox program has the "enable LAN sync" option checked. This has nothing to do with an app on your phone.
This worked for me. I was at 3-5 percent drain per hour on my Note and since I turned that setting off on my pc, I still had 100% battery at 1 hour 52 minutes on battery. A definate improvement thanks!
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I was having a bad battery drain on my phone while connected to my home Wifi - as much as 3-6% per hour while the screen was off. This happened both on the stock ROM as well as CM9 and CM10. I finally figured out the cause - the dropbox program on my regular computer had an option called "enable lan sync" turned on. Apparently this makes your computer constantly send out broadcast traffic across your wifi network to all devices on your network. Some phone modems will see that broadcast traffic and wake up, meaning very little deep sleep, meaning poor battery life. I disabled lan sync on the computer and now the battery life on my phone is insanely better! It drains maybe 1% per hour. Note this doesn't affect all phones, just certain chipsets/modems. The Galaxy Note seems to be one of the ones affected.
I've been monitoring wakelocks with BetterBatteryState for awhile, and always say a wlan_rx_wake under kernel wakelocks. I Googled periodically for a cause and couldn't find anything. Tonight I got lucky and found what I needed to narrow down the issue.
It hasn't completely stopped the wlan_rx_wake wakelocks (I suspect the ones I'm still seeing are for real wifi use like background synching), but it has made it drastically better.
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Great Find !!
Thank you Sir !....g
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Nice find
EvoXOhio said:
I was having a bad battery drain on my phone while connected to my home Wifi - as much as 3-6% per hour while the screen was off. This happened both on the stock ROM as well as CM9 and CM10. I finally figured out the cause - the dropbox program on my regular computer had an option called "enable lan sync" turned on. Apparently this makes your computer constantly send out broadcast traffic across your wifi network to all devices on your network. Some phone modems will see that broadcast traffic and wake up, meaning very little deep sleep, meaning poor battery life. I disabled lan sync on the computer and now the battery life on my phone is insanely better! It drains maybe 1% per hour. Note this doesn't affect all phones, just certain chipsets/modems. The Galaxy Note seems to be one of the ones affected.
I've been monitoring wakelocks with BetterBatteryState for awhile, and always say a wlan_rx_wake under kernel wakelocks. I Googled periodically for a cause and couldn't find anything. Tonight I got lucky and found what I needed to narrow down the issue.
It hasn't completely stopped the wlan_rx_wake wakelocks (I suspect the ones I'm still seeing are for real wifi use like background synching), but it has made it drastically better.
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Added to the Super Thread, under the tips and tricks section....great work.....g
as a matter of policy, I keep dropbox sync turned off on my phone and sync it manually when I need something.
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as a matter of policy, I keep dropbox sync turned off on my phone and sync it manually when I need something.
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Re-read the OP, that has nothing to do with what we're discussing here. The issue is not with the Android Dropbox app, it's with Dropbox on your Mac or PC on the same network as your phone.
I did read that, but I'd you understood my point then you'd see that by keeping the sync of, then the issue of locks or subnets, wouldn't matter
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I did read that, but I'd you understood my point then you'd see that by keeping the sync of, then the issue of locks or subnets, wouldn't matter
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You're missing the point. The dropbox program on your machine is constantly sending out broadcast packets to all IPs on the network. Certain cell phone modems (it doesnt seem to affect all android phones but ours is one of the affected ones) see those and wake up the phone. It doesn't matter if you have the dropbox app on your phone. The PC is waking up the Android OS via the modem.
Found this through the super thread. Nice info. However, I had a hard time finding out how to turn off lan sync. I opened my drop box and couldn't find the options.... Then for the heck of it I right clicked on the tiny icon on the bottom bar of my windows 8 PC. found the cog wheel, preferences> and then the settings opened. And lan sync was indeed checked. I don't know if it will make a difference, but I unchecked it. Thanks OP.
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You're missing the point. The dropbox program on your machine is constantly sending out broadcast packets to all IPs on the network. Certain cell phone modems (it doesnt seem to affect all android phones but ours is one of the affected ones) see those and wake up the phone. It doesn't matter if you have the dropbox app on your phone. The PC is waking up the Android OS via the modem.
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Actually if DropBox app has the Sync setting turned off, then it doesnt matter if the PC is broadcasting or not. It shouldnt affect the device in anyway. If the app is made properly for the device, it wouldnt receive the signal since Sync is disabled. It wouldnt matter if the desktop sync was on or off, if the app sync was off. Cant have a sync if 1 of the 2 devices has it disabled.
So if your still getting battery drain and you can prove it is from this app, then you should contact DropBox and notify them that they have indeed messed up. I can prove my side of this simply. I have never disabled the Desktop App Sync. But I have yet to have any effect from my device.
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Cant tell me that after 20 Hours on WiFi with the Desktop App Sync being on that I wouldnt show at least some life from DropBox on my battery usage. I can see usage from the Live Wallpaper, the game I played, Nova and others. But nothing to backup DropBox Desktop App Sync being on. So that tells me that DropBox has either updated their App since this was posted to prevent this issue, like it should do to begin with, or you open DropBox and forget to close it out. Cause I dont see anything to support DropBox using battery when not in use, even with Desktop Sync on.
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Works for me too
Hi
I have dropbox 50.2.2 (Android 7.0, galaxy S8) and the phone started telling me yesterday that dropbox was using too much power (3-4%) and would I like to shut it down?. I had two computers with dropbox on my local network (onw linux, one windows 10) and both had lan sync on. I've turned lan sync off and dropbox has gone back to 0.09%/hr.
When connected to my home Wifi my battery drains MUCH faster than when on 4G, 3G, Airplane mode, etc.
I've been noticing it the last two weeks or so, I have an updated Verizon LG 3 Stock + root. I tried factory reset, and reinstalling only a handful of apps (xposed+greenify+amplify and ones I use regularly), still happens. I've noticed "Android OS" and "Android System" take a large increase in battery used when connected to my home wifi vs mobile data. It doesn't seem to be downloading or syncing differently, but of course it could be transparent to me. I've tried looking at the wakelocks, alarms, services etc, but nothing in particular sticks out and I've tried limiting the ones that do in amplify, but the problem persists.
With my wifi turned on and connected, then wifi off (both just sitting in my house.)
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EDIT: See my post below for usage stats.
Any ideas as to what might be causing it? I've tried BetterBatteryStats, Amplify, Greenify, OS monitor, none of them show a clear culprit.
I have the same issue with my work Wi-Fi, however at home I get fantastic battery life. For me, when at work even if I rarely use my phone all day, I'm talking less than 30 minutes of screen on time, the battery could be down to 60% after 8 hours of just being idle. I believe this is specific to the wireless network we have setup, as it only happens here and not when at home on my personal Asus router. When looking at the battery stats the phone says it was awake for 4-6 out of those 8 hours, and that Android OS and system are the culprit. Compare this to home, where similar use will yield my phone being at 95%+ after 6-8 hours of just being idle with light use.
This isn't just the G3 though, I've tested a Moto X 2013, Droid Turbo, G2, and I've heard from many other users that they get horrible battery life at work.
Since my phone use at work is very minimal, I used the Xposed module Smart Network, which I have set to turn off Wi-Fi and mobile data after 1 minute of the screen being off, with mobile data enabling every 30 minutes (I only get 1x at work), and Wi-Fi every 60 minutes for 1 minute. What do you have for a wireless router at home?
hmm, could be, but it hasn't always done this when I'm at home and I haven't changed any of my network settings. I have a Linksys E-3000 running Tomato.
P.S. I don't trust those battery usage stats, after a full charge overnight with the screen off and no usage for 1 hour, it was still reporting screen usage as ~45%. I'll update with GSam battery stats and ampily when I get home. I'm going to try a full day wifi on but NOT connected to wifi, then a full day of wifi on and connected at home.
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When connected to my home Wifi my battery drains MUCH faster than when on 4G, 3G, Airplane mode, etc.
I've been noticing it the last two weeks or so, I have an updated Verizon LG 3 Stock + root. I tried factory reset, and reinstalling only a handful of apps (xposed+greenify+amplify and ones I use regularly), still happens. I've noticed "Android OS" and "Android System" take a large increase in battery used when connected to my home wifi vs mobile data. It doesn't seem to be downloading or syncing differently, but of course it could be transparent to me. I've tried looking at the wakelocks, alarms, services etc, but nothing in particular sticks out and I've tried limiting the ones that do in amplify, but the problem persists.
With my wifi turned on and connected, then wifi off (both just sitting in my house.)
Usage during the day at work (wifi on, but not connected to a network), Android System still seems a little high.
And after an hour and a half connected to my wifi, battery starts to drain. "Android System" and "Android OS" will keep rising as the night goes on.
Any ideas as to what might be causing it? I've tried BetterBatteryStats, Amplify, Greenify, OS monitor, none of them show a clear culprit.
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Do you get a good mobile signal at your house or wherever you are wifi?, just a thought, but your 3G/4G radios do not turn off when connected to wi-fi, it dosnt use mobile data but the radio is still on, if you have a weak signal it will use more battery searching for a better signal, try turning mobile data off while your connected to wi-fi and see if that makes a difference...
Alright, did some testing today. Here are the results.
I fully recharged it and left it alone for 4 hours (except for a little google music), collected the screen shots, then connected to my wifi, and waited 5 more hours. Only touched the phone for maybe 10 minutes either time.
I get good 4G in my house so that's not an issue. "Android System" and "Android OS" are just kicking into high gear why connected to my wifi.
The battery life looks impressive even with the issue, @40 hours, but i was not using the phone at all AND is about HALF of what the non wifi is using.
Wifi on but not connected on the left. ---------------- Wifi connected at home on the right.
The non wifi on the left even has more Wakelocks, but much less battery used.
Screenshots of the services & alarms are here... http://imgur.com/a/wHf1F but they are pretty much identical both times.
Alright, who else has an idea why Android OS and System are using so much?
I'm having the same issue and just as stumped as you. I'm currently running BeanTowns 11c stock ROM and the Skydragon 2.7.3 kernel. Was going to move to the skydragon 12B ROM and see if there was any improvement as there is no evidence of any offending apps causing this.
One change I've made but haven't had time to test the results is I've killed the Verizon Caller ID name and visual voicemail apps. I hear they try to maintain active 4G connections even on Wi-Fi which may cause excessive drain. I suspect this may be reported as part of Android system and not the apps themselves.
Came across this is advanced wifi settings, is yours ON? no idea what it does or if it has anything to do with it.
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Came across this is advanced wifi settings, is yours ON? no idea what it does or if it has anything to do with it.
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I keep those options off:
-Allow wifi scanning will kill battery
- Battery savings for WiFi causes notification delays for me. I don't notice significant savings with it enabled on any other device I have.
I can confirm I have fixed my issue by disabling Caller Name ID, Visual Voicemail, and LG Health (I think it was responsible for kernel wake locks).
So far today, I've been off the charger for 8 hours with minimal use. ~6 hours on WiFi and 2 hours on 4G with 15min of screen time....and I'm currently at 93% battery.
Artimis said:
I keep those options off:
-Allow wifi scanning will kill battery
- Battery savings for WiFi causes notification delays for me. I don't notice significant savings with it enabled on any other device I have.
I can confirm I have fixed my issue by disabling Caller Name ID, Visual Voicemail, and LG Health (I think it was responsible for kernel wake locks).
So far today, I've been off the charger for 8 hours with minimal use. ~6 hours on WiFi and 2 hours on 4G with 15min of screen time....and I'm currently at 93% battery.
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I disabled all that verizon crap the day I brought the phone home and rooted, so I cant compare stock to the setup I have now, but I can say I am impressed on the battery life of the phone compared to my previous phones and the screen it has....
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I disabled all that verizon crap the day I brought the phone home and rooted, so I cant compare stock to the setup I have now, but I can say I am impressed on the battery life of the phone compared to my previous phones and the screen it has....
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Agreed! Battery life is pretty good once you eliminate all the bloat.
Oh, another thing I forgot to mention was I had location disabled all day. One thing to check which definitely contributes to this issue is to make sure that if you need location use "Device sensors only (GPS only)". If you use "High accuracy" or "Battery savings" then a lot of google services go crazy over a wifi network by constantly polling for location. There are aspects of google services that can be disabled through the "Disable Service" app in the play store to help fix this....
My phone has been showing extreme wifi power usage since day one.
It has the same percentage as the screen most of the time. 10-15% drain at most.
It seems to level off and not extreme-drain after a while.
No clue as to why.
And here's the kicker; it's not turned on!
I know location services can be set to enable wifi in the background, this is disabled.
And the high power usage remains even when location is forced to "device only"
The Wifi is set to sleep when screen is off, although I don't see how that would change anything as it's turned off.
It has no correlation with signal strength, as some have suggested on other phones.
Resetting WiFi settings fixed it for a day, until I logged on to a WiFi again.
There's no strange activity when I enable "overlay cpu usage"
So I'm stumped. Restarting it works sometimes, but this isn't Windows XP...
Hello I have the same probleme with my moto z ....Even without using the wifi I use a higher screen
I hope that an update will correct this
mine is turned on and it drains the same as you describe.
I read several blogs and the problem is that the OS is taking a bad reading about the wifi battery consumption, meaning that this is a "bug", not that the wifi is really draining your battery. I made a few test by myself; first, the Wifi is the second place on battery stats, just below screen time, so I decided to charge the phone to 100% and use it as normal with wifi turn-off all day long, using only 4G/LTE signal and the battery was worse than using wifi signals, and surprise, the Wifi was second place again, not even using once on a that day. The second day I charged the phone 100% again and leave it unplugged over the night (12am to 6 am) with all connections on, and the battery drain was only 2%, pretty good in my opinion, and for the first time that day the wifi was the number one on the battery stats, using like 50maH at that time, if you make the math is not even possible, if the baterry is 2500ma and was 2% stand-by meaning that the 50mah consumption were only the wifi??? what about stand by, or sleeping???.
Today, my battery is 40% left and the wifi is number 1 again and STO is second, with 2 hours and 15 minutes and the wifi 10 hours on. As I said, I read several blogs and I am pretty sure is a bug, because I dont see that the wifi is really draining my battery.
The thing is my phone is running hot in my pocket, and no other application is using power according to the list.
BUT, I actually found a solution.
It's the Smart Lock, I had it set to use my location as a "never lock" area.
This setting apparently started the wifi continuously.
I entered Smart lock settings, deleted all entries and boom; WiFi doesn't even make the battery list any more. It's sub 1%.
And my phone is no longer scalding hot in my pocket either.
Shadowdancer123 said:
The thing is my phone is running hot in my pocket, and no other application is using power according to the list.
BUT, I actually found a solution.
It's the Smart Lock, I had it set to use my location as a "never lock" area.
This setting apparently started the wifi continuously.
I entered Smart lock settings, deleted all entries and boom; WiFi doesn't even make the battery list any more. It's sub 1%.
And my phone is no longer scalding hot in my pocket either.
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Ok, you are right, the wi-fi is indeed draining to much battery, but after serveral configurations I found the right one, even you can use the "Smart lock" with out problem at all
You can check it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/extreme-wifi-battery-drain-solution-t3476579
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That's settings I run most of the time, but for me it disappeared entirely with the smart lock location..
However, now there's a weird ghost drain, the phone will drop 20-25% in 4-5 hours with an absolute minimum of active use.
The phone is room temperature, so nothing appears to use any exorbitant amount of CPU like before.
And there's no obvious power hog in statistics either. :S
There's got to be some kind of bug with the CPU power down mode or something.. Not sure how I'm going to track it down.
Com.android.systemui is the only process in CPU stats.
But it shows 9.0 usage in all three rows.
Is that process using 90% CPU?
@Shadowdancer123 install Wakelock Detector Lite from the Play Store. Then follow the instructions in the Play Store app description on how to use it with a non rooted phone. When you are done running it you should know what the drain is from.
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So I finally received my USB type C cable so I could connect to my computer and install wakelock lite.
Found several guilty apps, two games which I'd installed but forgot about, that ran a lot in the background.
But biggest hog was an app called e-control for my broadcom wireless gadget, it had woken the CPU 4000 times in 3 ½ hours.
There's obviously a bug with battery stats, as none of these were visible there.
Or it only counts apps in foreground which is kind of pointless, as I already know my games eat battery...
Now when I leave the phone unplugged at night, after a full charge, expected battery life is 3-4 days in the morning.
Which is still terrible, but realistic.
Turn off location permission on google chrome Settings > Apps > google chrome... change permissions.. that is what fixed it for me.
Went from 20-27% wifi battery drain down to 5%.
macknet said:
Turn off location permission on google chrome Settings > Apps > google chrome... change permissions.. that is what fixed it for me.
Went from 20-27% wifi battery drain down to 5%.
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did it report at chrome or did it report as WiFi?
May wifi is always on but no WIFI usage in battery..? plenty of bugs. I just bought this last week.
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did it report at chrome or did it report as WiFi?
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It reported the battery usage as Wi-Fi in both the system battery UI and GSAM Battery monitor.
Hi all, I'm still on the old firmware with July Android security patch update. I still get the false wifi reading after trying all the methods suggested here.
jeromejeremytay said:
Hi all, I'm still on the old firmware with July Android security patch update. I still get the false wifi reading after trying all the methods suggested here.
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Here is the solution. So far so good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3476579
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It reported the battery usage as Wi-Fi in both the system battery UI and GSAM Battery monitor.
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orbitz52 said:
May wifi is always on but no WIFI usage in battery..? plenty of bugs. I just bought this last week.
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