Trust or not to trust
Hey budding android users hope you can settle a debate my cousin has just brought a used touchpad of Craig's list
And he's paranoid about the rom that's installed might be infected He's talking both web os and ICS must be infected and loaded with spyware malware etc etc
I said its impossible but he said how would I know and I was stumped as I did not have an answer
The operating systems are web os and android cyanogenmod ICS
He wont use any banking sites or email clients or calendar contacts Saying they will access his personal information
How do I ease him into not worrying? Ps he's also noted a Chinese app at the bottom of the apps in ICS and says it must be spyware as it say it has access to personal information and network access
He said when he tried to delete it it said are you sure you want to delete a system app
Im writing this on his behalf help me if you can I was going to suggest a full rom flash and web os flash I think using web doctor from what I read up on
And someone can you assure him cyanogen os is not loaded with virus etc and they can be trusted
Anyway thanks yo
To be honest there could be if you know how to follow instructions I would erase everything on the Touchpad uing WebOS Doctor for the HP Touchpad
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Doctor_Versions
Than reinstall CM9
Androidalways said:
Trust or not to trust
Hey budding android users hope you can settle a debate my cousin has just brought a used touchpad of Craig's list
And he's paranoid about the rom that's installed might be infected He's talking both web os and ICS must be infected and loaded with spyware malware etc etc
I said its impossible but he said how would I know and I was stumped as I did not have an answer
The operating systems are web os and android cyanogenmod ICS
He wont use any banking sites or email clients or calendar contacts Saying they will access his personal information
How do I ease him into not worrying? Ps he's also noted a Chinese app at the bottom of the apps in ICS and says it must be spyware as it say it has access to personal information and network access
He said when he tried to delete it it said are you sure you want to delete a system app
Im writing this on his behalf help me if you can I was going to suggest a full rom flash and web os flash I think using web doctor from what I read up on
And someone can you assure him cyanogen os is not loaded with virus etc and they can be trusted
Anyway thanks yo
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99% he's got nothing to worry about. But if he wants to make sure, have him run acmeuninstaller, (there are several good, easy to follow tutorials here in the forum), then follow this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
Then go through the process of installing android again. I recommend the official CM9 nightlies, but there are several others to choose from. Read the forum, all the info needed is here.
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99% he's got nothing to worry about. But if he wants to make sure, have him run acmeuninstaller, (there are several good, easy to follow tutorials here in the forum), then follow this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
Then go through the process of installing android again. I recommend the official CM9 nightlies, but there are several others to choose from. Read the forum, all the info needed is here.
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Thank you guys so if I run web os doctor will that not alone erase android on the partition?
And can I have the link to cm9 for touchpad so I know it's the original rom*
Normally does the about information in the menu of both android and web os this tablet can I not identify from that information if they are both legit this will save me from going through the tedious task of re flashing both roms
Do you think both roms need flashing?
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Thank you guys so if I run web os doctor will that not alone erase android on the partition?
And can I have the link to cm9 for touchpad so I know it's the original rom*
Normally does the about information in the menu of both android and web os this tablet can I not identify from that information if they are both legit this will save me from going through the tedious task of re flashing both roms
Do you think both roms need flashing?
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Please can you respond please its been a few hours and I need to found out wether or not to proceed I will have to go work tomorrow and all this will be left behind and my friend will not have a device to use
And I will not hear the end of it
Please help me out xda
Just use webos doctor and start from scratch, recreating partitions for android. I personally would just go to recovery and format system, data, cache and just load a new ROM. Less time consuming and erases all aps and data loaded.
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Androidalways said:
Trust or not to trust
Hey budding android users hope you can settle a debate my cousin has just brought a used touchpad of Craig's list
And he's paranoid about the rom that's installed might be infected He's talking both web os and ICS must be infected and loaded with spyware malware etc etc
I said its impossible but he said how would I know and I was stumped as I did not have an answer
The operating systems are web os and android cyanogenmod ICS
He wont use any banking sites or email clients or calendar contacts Saying they will access his personal information
How do I ease him into not worrying? Ps he's also noted a Chinese app at the bottom of the apps in ICS and says it must be spyware as it say it has access to personal information and network access
He said when he tried to delete it it said are you sure you want to delete a system app
Im writing this on his behalf help me if you can I was going to suggest a full rom flash and web os flash I think using web doctor from what I read up on
And someone can you assure him cyanogen os is not loaded with virus etc and they can be trusted
Anyway thanks yo
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Well, it depends on your definition of "spyware".. Pretty much the entire Android/Google universe contains apps that have access to personal information and network access. In fact, in order to even download apps from the Market, you have to create a Google login which opens you up to Google's use of your information along with the apps. There are some, but not many, viruses in Android apps, and there are also apps that will scan the tablet for viruses and the like just like Windows software. Like anything internet-based, you have to be careful in letting your identity float into the cloud. If he's that paranoid about it, I suggest he follow your instructions and fully wipe the tablet (and hope you don't screw it up . Then create a completely false identity for Google (like having a 555 area code, an Indonesian home address, etc. - you get the picture).
nikeman513 said:
Just use webos doctor and start from scratch, recreating partitions for android. I personally would just go to recovery and format system, data, cache and just load a new ROM. Less time consuming and erases all aps and data loaded.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
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I think I will following your time saving route did you say just to do a system restore format data but if I do this there's no need to load a new rom is there
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Hi all,
I am new to android. First time using it and really know nothing about it.
Bought the G tab at woot. I am knowledgeable with computers, so I hope that helps. Over 50, so need your help here.
I have spent a decent amount of time looking through these forums and there is so much information here, it is hard to discerne what is relevant for me.
I did the OTA update. I do not have an sd card, so all will be through the usb to my home computer.
I have played with the gtab a bit, but I figure, before I go and do a bunch of setup for the family and download apps that if I am going to root it, I may as well do it now. Those of you with experience using it don't like viewsonics version, so I assume that these ROM's must be so much better.
From this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842004
it reads that if I have stock gtab, I can simply install TnTLite 4.4 without clockworkmod. I assume then that without colckworkmod, I can't clear the cache or datafiles. Do I really need nvfLASH? I read it and it sounds a bit confusing.
I read that you should repartition the gtab. I looked and can't find out how to do this. Is this before or after you run the mod?
For the market fix, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845175
I follow the link to download the zip file. When I download apps from the computer, where on the gtab do they go to unzip them?
What does sideload mean? What do you mean when you say make sure that market is working with your google id? do i need a gmail account?
On a side note, the gtab will not load up my yahoo mail account? hmmm, is that correct? My wife has an old aol account that she uses and she said she can't respond to emails, that is true also?
Thanks in advance,
Kozmokrmr
Lots of questions... let's see what we can do here...
Yes, You can setup TnTLite 4.4 without ClockworkMod. However, CWM is included in the install as part of the 3588 Recovery Pack. You can actually switch it in and out as needed for the purposes of clearing caches and wiping data.
Repartitioning is one of the advanced functions of ClockworkMod. You will not likely find it necessary unless you're doing lots of modding (or are particularly anal about procedure, like I am...).
It doesn't really matter where you download or unzip files to as long as you know where they are. I leave them in the default download folder or create a folder for the particular project on one of the sdcards. Sideloading consists of downloading an app's .apk file to the tablet then installing it without using the market. Most file managers (including the one included on the gtab) do this with a click or two.
Yes you will need a gmail account to make the market work. When you start it the first time it will ask for your gmail credentials to log in.
There is a Yahoo mail (and IM) client/app. Not sure about AOL. But either can be accessed through the web browser.
All that being said... if you are planning on using the "Family" accounts setup that comes stock on the G Tablet you'll want to try that before loading any custom ROM. They all replace the contacts app which is required for that to work. I'm not sure if any of the custom ROM's supports any kind of multi user setup.
Thank you K J Rad
To enter clockworkmod, then just use the power and volume up to access clockworkmod from 3588 update? Then do the data and cache clearing? Is clockworkmod, just a tool to do a few system functions?
Ok, then I won't worry about repartitioning.
Hmm, alright, I guess I'll just give the sideloading a go and see what happens.
About NVFlash, should I worry about it or is it only for the guys who switch out roms and play around with it? I figure, once I install a mod, other than maybe updating the rom, I won't be yanking around with it like this anymore.
Ok, then we'll get a few gmail accounts. Thanks.
The internet on the gtab wouldn't access my yahoo. Possibly I need to upgrade yahoo to the paid version to get the pop account.
The AOL account could be read, but she couldn't reply to any emails. Possibly the same problem there.
No big deal about the family accounts, we don't need them. Its not an issue.
The people here I read that have issues (not booting up, stuck in a loop, etc.) have what? done a step wrong, played around a bit too much or just one of those odd software flukes that catches some guys?
So there really is a BIG difference in the stock rom and the modded roms's, yes?
Thanks again.
Power and Volume Up enter "Recovery Mode." If ClockworkMod is installed then that is what you will get. Otherwise you'll get the stock recovery. 3588 does not install CWM. There is a very good thread "Stickied" in the development section about installing Clockwork, ROMs, etc. Once you've got that installed the instructions for installing TnTLite 4.4 and switching between the two types of recovery are in the stickied TnTLite thread. I usually do a data wipe before and after installing a ROM (it works for me... YMMV).
Knowing how to nvflash could be the difference between nirvana and complete disgust. It may never come up but if it does then you will be thrilled that you know how.
Once you have the market installed and working download a better browser. I use Dolphin HD and it works with my Yahoo account just fine (after you tinker with it's settings a bit...). Probably work fine for AOL also. If not, try Opera Mobile.
Any number of things can cause the issues you'll see posted about here. I've suffered magic number mismatch, boot loop, FC's... the whole gamut. If you get comfortable with the tools then you'll be able to recover from anything. Good practices will also lead to greater success. For example, when I'm flashing to a new ROM I do the following:
1) Cache and Data wipe.
2) nvflash to Factory install.
3) Update to 1.1-3588 build.
4) Data wipe (probably not necessary but wth...)
5) Proceed with update.
For experimental builds I modify that to include repartitioning.
Following this procedure has reduced my occurances of unexpected issues to near zero (I don't always remember to do every step...).
Yes... the custom ROMs are "Better" but better is subjective. I like TwoTapsX for its speed and stability though it does suffer from a few video artifacts from time to time. TnTLite is a good solid daily driver for the average user. VEGAn is popular with a lot of power users. Each has its tradeoffs and even the stock ROM has some advantages (easy to use custom interface, decent basic set of integrated apps, settings optimized to reduce confusing options).
Welcome and enjoy.
Greeting's, I would like to know if there's a way to verify android installation (or image, i'm unsure on which is the correct reference; pardon me.). I own a Nexus 5 (32GB) and my phone recently received 5.1 update. Update process finished normally, there was a reboot and the standard optimizing app's screen. Few days later, when I rebooted my phone; the same optimizing apps process started. I had checked that my 5.1 update was to build LMY47I and there is no further update to this build. At this point, I am bit concerned as to - 1) Why the optimizing application process started? 2) While I did google around a bit, I did not find any definitive way to check integrity of installed android image.
I'm a information security architect and almost all OS's have a way to verify its installed integrity. Windows for PC's have sigverif and SFC commands. Traditional BIOS is being replaced with UEFI which helps verify and maintain boot cycle integrity.
So, in android is there such process or tools or commands to verify integrity of installation?
Thanking you in anticipation,
Parth Maniar
It is doing it because something wiped the cache. There is no way to check at the moment. If it doesn't install properly then it will kernel panic and not boot at all.
zelendel, thank you very much for your reply. I personally did not wipe the cache partition. Also, will this occur every time cache partition is wiped? Because I've at times manually wiped the cache partition but application optimization has never started. Is there a logging mechanism to check why this was invoked? Is there a way I can enable, disable or control logging parameters? For example - In a PC environment, I can log all network traffic using syslog standard or enable logging using group policy in windows. Does android have any such option?
Please don't mind my questioning and don't let that make you feel that I'm doubting your answer. I am just trying to learn. I would like to once again thank you for your prompt answer.
Parth Maniar.
ParthManiar said:
zelendel, thank you very much for your reply. I personally did not wipe the cache partition. Also, will this occur every time cache partition is wiped? Because I've at times manually wiped the cache partition but application optimization has never started. Is there a logging mechanism to check why this was invoked? Is there a way I can enable, disable or control logging parameters? For example - In a PC environment, I can log all network traffic using syslog standard or enable logging using group policy in windows. Does android have any such option?
Please don't mind my questioning and don't let that make you feel that I'm doubting your answer. I am just trying to learn. I would like to once again thank you for your prompt answer.
Parth Maniar.
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As to why it happened I am not sure. I normally happens when the delvic cache partition its self is wiped. There are some tools that might help with what happened. You could look into logcats and last_kmsg HERE is a great tut on them that might help. There are also a few on device apps like catlog and a few others that might help.
Oh no not at all. I understand completely where you are coming from. Most of the error logging is done in a linux setup and not on device or windows really. It also depends on the device and the distro of android your using.
I'm currently using stock androind (AOSP) on my Nexus 5. One of the reason's that I've never tried running other android built is mainly my lack of understanding. Not that I know how AOSP works but I feel tad bit secure knowing it's the official build. Like your signature say's "Security is an illusion".
I would love to play around with Android but where would you suggest is the best and safest way to start, from the perspective of a clean restore. For example - PC's have virtual environments where I can do testing or even trying to break a software just to learn how it works. What kind of process or tools are used for android.
I have one more question (Pardon me for the question parade ) but how does one verify tools posted on Internet which deal with reseting firmware or even factory flags. I have tried on a test phone resetting LG flag for tampered. I had manually flashed the phone with android 5.0 image which required unlocking the bootloader. So to ensure I can claim warranty i used the temper reset tool. While I truly appreciate the author(s) of that particular and such other tools which assist "hackers" (this would be the correct use of the word) immensely. How can one be sure that no malware code is present.
If you've ever researched on this - There are couple of companies out there giving tools (software) for complete control of the phone. Most of them excel at giving features for Android. While that scares me, it also gives an opportunity to learn on detection and remediation.
ParthManiar said:
I'm currently using stock androind (AOSP) on my Nexus 5. One of the reason's that I've never tried running other android built is mainly my lack of understanding. Not that I know how AOSP works but I feel tad bit secure knowing it's the official build. Like your signature say's "Security is an illusion".
I would love to play around with Android but where would you suggest is the best and safest way to start, from the perspective of a clean restore. For example - PC's have virtual environments where I can do testing or even trying to break a software just to learn how it works. What kind of process or tools are used for android.
I have one more question (Pardon me for the question parade ) but how does one verify tools posted on Internet which deal with reseting firmware or even factory flags. I have tried on a test phone resetting LG flag for tampered. I had manually flashed the phone with android 5.0 image which required unlocking the bootloader. So to ensure I can claim warranty i used the temper reset tool. While I truly appreciate the author(s) of that particular and such other tools which assist "hackers" (this would be the correct use of the word) immensely. How can one be sure that no malware code is present.
If you've ever researched on this - There are couple of companies out there giving tools (software) for complete control of the phone. Most of them excel at giving features for Android. While that scares me, it also gives an opportunity to learn on detection and remediation.
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You could use a live disc and run Linux which would allow you all the great tools. I would start with the android SDK which allows for virtual devices. I have a dual partition set up to boot up linux so I can download all the source code and go from there. As you have a nexus you have almost complete freedom in that aspect. When dealing with devices like LG, HTC or the worst being Samsung it gets alot harder dealing with resetting flags. They are working harder and harder to lock things like this down. Now that Samsung has given alot of the Knox code to google for use in the base AOSP code it will get harder. Alot of the newer devices with knox cant even have the bootloader unlocked.
As for being sure there is no malware included that gets a bit harder. Most rely on a good malware software. I can not attest to any as I dont use any of that myself, I am just very careful with what I download. Any company that is giving away software that claims to allow you to completely control a device is bound to have some sort of malware involved. I have seen a few and alot of them have ransom ware deeply embedded in them.
Thank you very much again, zelendel. I wanted to correct or better explain what I already mentioned. I was referring to companies which offer hacking services .. I've had couple of run downs with them and they "sell" products, with capabilities well beyond general publishing. I wanted to learn on how to counter them. Sadly, I'm not a programmer and downloading source code will help me little. But i will still setup as you've mentioned. What linux distro do you use? I hate multi boot with UEFI especially since i use a FDE product. Ah, the fun of setting up a lab.
Thank you very much again. Journey in Android begins now.
PS: Have you used any other android build except the AOSP? I would like your take on that too.
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Thank you very much again, zelendel. I wanted to correct or better explain what I already mentioned. I was referring to companies which offer hacking services .. I've had couple of run downs with them and they "sell" products, with capabilities well beyond general publishing. I wanted to learn on how to counter them. Sadly, I'm not a programmer and downloading source code will help me little. But i will still setup as you've mentioned. What linux distro do you use? I hate multi boot with UEFI especially since i use a FDE product. Ah, the fun of setting up a lab.
Thank you very much again. Journey in Android begins now.
PS: Have you used any other android build except the AOSP? I would like your take on that too.
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I personally Use Ubuntu as it is the supported android building setup. It was easy to setup and use for a Linux noob like I was. Oh God I know what you mean with UEFI.
As for countering them. The easiest way would be to pay attention to what gets root access. This would be the only way they could really do anything major. Mainly with the new sandboxing in android 5.1
I have used just about every distro of android available. I have used OEM Roms like HTC Sense, Samsung Touchwiz. I have used all of the AOSP based roms. CM, Slim, AICP, DU (my current), PA. I now avoid CM based builds and stick to builds that work off of AOSP instead of CM based. This is due not only to the companies BS stand on removing Google from android but they have a bad habit of treating others like trash and merging untested code which can cause issues like the recent string of nexus 6 bricks.
Hello everyone!
I got a tablet from a big chain company of my country called Turbo-x Twister IV and few days ago I got a virus that can't be deleted. I did factory reset but nothing, so it got permission to install on the system and the virus is the tablet probably.
I did research and it probably is one of these three:
Shedun, Shuanet, ShiftyBug
Also the antivirus finds the SDK client is the virus and asks every hour to uninstall, I uninstall but then it reappears always. Here is some info I found about the virus:
Package name: com.xbkpnotification
Certificate info: /C=cn/ST=guangdong/L=shenzhen/O=xiaobukuaipao/CN=yu
PERMISSIONS:
Install applications, Delete Applications, Close background processes, mount unmount file system, receive boot broadcasting, get info of the current/recent running tasks, read WIFI state.
Does anyone know what to do? Someone told me to install custom ROM but this brand name is from the company and I don't really know which ROM to add so I won't destroy my device. I have Android version 5.1.1 and I always update it so it is the latest.
I would really appreciate some help because now my tablet is useless, it doesn't even allow me to go on the google play store and download games and I definitely am not going to add my phone number to steal my information.
Thank you for reading and I am looking forward for any help!
boopity said:
Hello everyone!
I got a tablet from a big chain company of my country called Turbo-x Twister IV and few days ago I got a virus that can't be deleted. I did factory reset but nothing, so it got permission to install on the system and the virus is the tablet probably.
I did research and it probably is one of these three:
Shedun, Shuanet, ShiftyBug
Also the antivirus finds the SDK client is the virus and asks every hour to uninstall, I uninstall but then it reappears always. Here is some info I found about the virus:
Package name: com.xbkpnotification
Certificate info: /C=cn/ST=guangdong/L=shenzhen/O=xiaobukuaipao/CN=yu
PERMISSIONS:
Install applications, Delete Applications, Close background processes, mount unmount file system, receive boot broadcasting, get info of the current/recent running tasks, read WIFI state.
Does anyone know what to do? Someone told me to install custom ROM but this brand name is from the company and I don't really know which ROM to add so I won't destroy my device. I have Android version 5.1.1 and I always update it so it is the latest.
I would really appreciate some help because now my tablet is useless, it doesn't even allow me to go on the google play store and download games and I definitely am not going to add my phone number to steal my information.
Thank you for reading and I am looking forward for any help!
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Turbo-x... I dont want to make jokes for this brand (Greek here),
Well, you tried to remove it via adb? also please, post screenshots bere.
I can make the jokes for you haha
Well I don't know anything about the tablet technology, I just owned one and added things from app store, so no I didn't try Android Debug Bridge,. It has some tutorials on youtube should I just watch one and do it? Is for all the brands the same program and procedure or needs any specifics?
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Turbo-x... I dont want to make jokes for this brand (Greek here),
Well, you tried to remove it via adb? also please, post screenshots bere.
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I can make the jokes for you haha
Well I don't know anything about the tablet technology, I just owned one and added things from app store, so no I didn't try Android Debug Bridge,. It has some tutorials on youtube should I just watch one and do it? Is for all the brands the same program and procedure or needs any specifics?
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Is same. You can search on XDA.
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Is same. You can search on XDA.
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Thank you!
I installed all the three adb drivers on my device and I can put files from my pc now. How do I know which custom ROM is for my Turbo-x Twister IV to install with adb? Or am I supposed to do anything else? I just want to delete all the files from my tablet to remove the virus and then put new system (custom ROM or anything else equivalent) without the virus.
I would love some more guidance if you can provide. Sorry for the trouble I am new to this and I am a little confused
Hello ,its an old thread but i want to ask ,i have the same tab but adb doesn't recognise it ,pc ca see it but not adb .
Of course usb debugging is on but nothing also cant found any usb drivers for this device ,any solution ?
Thanks .
Hey guys, how are y'all doing?
Here's a little background on my problem:
A year ago bought a cheap-ass smartphone for my mom, from a big supermarket chain in my country that was selling french phones cheaply, it was only 60€ and my mom needed a phone, so there it is!
Anyway cut to the present, the phone is riddled of what I suspect is malware that installs itself as soon as I remove it such as Free Games, com.google.toolkit, MiniChrome, N62Androidpt, System Component, adservice, and a couple others.
It also keeps switching wi-fi off, and turning on that option that allows apps to be installed from unknown sources, and worst of all it keeps opening the phone in built browser with adds, and even porn sites on occasion, which is really not desirable as my very young aged nieces love stealing the phone and try to use it.
I installed malwarebytes, also did a factory reset to no avail it fixed nothing.
So I decided to flash a stock rom to see if I could get rid of it, searched around and found a repository of stock roms or firmwares or whatever it's called (I'm not too familiar with this side of smartphones), which I'd love to post, but apparently can't because I've last than 10 posts: doc-doapi.com/EM/selecline/smartphone/
It has a lot of roms for different models of my brand.
Used the UpgradeDownload - R2.9.2015 tool that was in that folder and flashed it successfully.
After I turned on the device it opened the new phone setup process, logged in to my google account, and restores my stuff like contacts, and a few trusted google apps from before the flash, but it soon started again to install those malware apps I stated up there on it's own, and it was soon in the same state as before...
Anyway here's some info about my phone that probably should've gone to the top.
It's a Selecline phone
Model S4S5in3g
Android version: 5.1
Kernel version: 3.10.65
Compilation number: S3S5in3g.V1.2_20160307
At the back it has a sticker and another model number 870712 which I used to find the folder on that repository of stock roms.
And that's all in a big nutshell, anyone has any tips?
Thanks.
lil' bump
Do you have login credentials for this Auchan website where you found the ROMs? It is asking for a login ID and password. I need ROM for Model S6S5IN3G.
Quick tip for getting rid of Malware even before they start. Go to Settings and check Data Usage. See which apps are using lots of data (downloading junk into your device). Note if there are any strange sounding apps that are downloading a lot of data, especially if it is not an app that you yourself were directly using.
Next, flash the stock ROM again. Once you flash the new ROM, you have to find a way to root the device. Try KingRoot. Then after the phone is rooted, go to Playstore and download SD Maid. Run SD Maid and give it root access. In the settings for AppControl of SD Maid, allow it to show system apps. Then run app control and freeze any strange-looking user apps (or anyone that was downloading a lot of data) and system app that are not required.
Please, let me know about the website and how to access the ROMs.
As mentioned before, install a clean room again. Copy virustotal app from the attachment of these post (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77053739&postcount=11) to SD-card and install it. Turn wifi on and let it run. Control every app and the system-apps. Post a screenshot of the findings. If there are findings, then the room is infected. The only way to deal with this, is to root it, install rootexplorer an kill the infected app. This can be dangerous, if for example, the lauchner is infected, an alternative launcher must first be installed and set as default, before you can kill the infected one (otherwise you will own a useless phone until you flash it again ;o).
Hey guys, thanks for trying to help.
I tried literally everything before, I've even somehow got a kitchen up and running and I removed everything that looked suspicious and all those bran add-ons from the rom, but even then I'd still get infected.
I didn't really try the antivirus route though and to be honest I already shelved that phone, but I'm kinda bored, so I'll try y'all suggestions, an extra working phone can always come in handy.
CVAngelo said:
Do you have login credentials for this Auchan website where you found the ROMs? It is asking for a login ID and password. I need ROM for Model S6S5IN3G.
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I'd love to help you mate, I found that repository in a forum maybe forum.gsmhosting, and I've tried to access it earlier, and I'm also denied access.
LOS 17.1 is now available and developers say that LOS's own recovery is going to be the preferred recovery.
Last year Google announced that adb is very likely to be removed soon.
Those two statements brings up an important question: how can users create a full backup of their devices **without** having to root them in order to make backup apps work?
I am not talking about backing up pictures, media, calendars or address books, there are plenty of ways to do this without root access. I am talking about a full backup, including the whole system partition and user data. TWRP was an excellent tool for this job: a backup could be created any time, any where, completely independent whether a PC was near or not. You could even write the backup directly onto a USB storage, and the phone could always be restored as well any where and any time.
That is a feature that I miss very much in LOS's own recovery and to my opinion this is an issue that needs to be solved.
Will this feature be added to LOS recovery in the (near) future? Or are there any other solutions to do a full backup without the need for root access?
dvdram said:
LOS 17.1 is now available and developers say that LOS's own recovery is going to be the preferred recovery.
Last year Google announced that adb is very likely to be removed soon.
Those two statements brings up an important question: how can users create a full backup of their devices **without** having to root them in order to make backup apps work?
I am not talking about backing up pictures, media, calendars or address books, there are plenty of ways to do this without root access. I am talking about a full backup, including the whole system partition and user data. TWRP was an excellent tool for this job: a backup could be created any time, any where, completely independent whether a PC was near or not. You could even write the backup directly onto a USB storage, and the phone could always be restored as well any where and any time.
That is a feature that I miss very much in LOS's own recovery and to my opinion this is an issue that needs to be solved.
Will this feature be added to LOS recovery in the (near) future? Or are there any other solutions to do a full backup without the need for root access?
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Making a complete system backup requires root and/or custom recovery, period.
That is he way it is, you can't change that. There are no alternatives.
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Droidriven said:
Making a complete system backup requires root and/or custom recovery, period.
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Pardon me, but that is a very harsh answer to a seriously asked question of common interest.
"We take security very seriously"...
Do you know where these words are written?
Maybe you'd like to try looking at this issue this way:
Many users who install LOS, are doing this because of security reasons. Imagine some of these users having bad luck and their phones get compromised by some bogus apps. And then they read an answer like this, telling them nothing different than: sorry, we can't and we won't help you!
And know imagine this:
Users can create snapshots or images of their running systems, with all of their apps included, as well as all necessary accounts, logins and passwords. When the "impossible thing" happens to a device running LOS, they have the option to restore the complete system without having to do a factory reset and without having to reinstall each and every app and the corresponding accounts.
What do you think, which one would please the users of your product more: an answer with an attitude like that one above, or the second possibility?
Furthermore: I was not bagging you to include this possibility. I was asking how this kind of back up could be made in the future, when TWRP won't work with Android 10, and when Google will remove adb. And frankly, I don't see why a recovery made by LOS should not be able to do a task that a third party recovery is capable of. If TWRP developers can put together such a piece of code, I am sure LOS developers should be able to do so as well.
Another possibility would be to reverse Google's decision and to keep adb.
So, from my perspective, there are at least two possible ways of dealing with this. But I am a user, not a developer, and I don't know if or why any one of these possibilities is a bad idea, or if there are really serious arguments against it, or whatever pro or con there might be. I simply don't know about these things and that's why I was asking about it. I am a user who doesn't like having to do a complete re-installation after a crash. And I am pretty sure that I am not the only user with this kind of antipathy.
A polite answer to the question would have included at least a glimpse of explanation why this and why not that.. And an open minded developer would have even cared to discuss about this.
dvdram said:
Pardon me, but that is a very harsh answer to a seriously asked question of common interest.
"We take security very seriously"...
Do you know where these words are written?
Maybe you'd like to try looking at this issue this way:
Many users who install LOS, are doing this because of security reasons. Imagine some of these users having bad luck and their phones get compromised by some bogus apps. And then they read an answer like this, telling them nothing different than: sorry, we can't and we won't help you!
And know imagine this:
Users can create snapshots or images of their running systems, with all of their apps included, as well as all necessary accounts, logins and passwords. When the "impossible thing" happens to a device running LOS, they have the option to restore the complete system without having to do a factory reset and without having to reinstall each and every app and the corresponding accounts.
What do you think, which one would please the users of your product more: an answer with an attitude like that one above, or the second possibility?
Furthermore: I was not bagging you to include this possibility. I was asking how this kind of back up could be made in the future, when TWRP won't work with Android 10, and when Google will remove adb. And frankly, I don't see why a recovery made by LOS should not be able to do a task that a third party recovery is capable of. If TWRP developers can put together such a piece of code, I am sure LOS developers should be able to do so as well.
Another possibility would be to reverse Google's decision and to keep adb.
So, from my perspective, there are at least two possible ways of dealing with this. But I am a user, not a developer, and I don't know if or why any one of these possibilities is a bad idea, or if there are really serious arguments against it, or whatever pro or con there might be. I simply don't know about these things and that's why I was asking about it. I am a user who doesn't like having to do a complete re-installation after a crash. And I am pretty sure that I am not the only user with this kind of antipathy.
A polite answer to the question would have included at least a glimpse of explanation why this and why not that.. And an open minded developer would have even cared to discuss about this.
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Your reaction is a very butt-hurt reaction for a question that has been asked AND has been answered many times on this website and could have easily been found by you if you had searched.
Unless, of course, you did search and you did read where it has been answered before and, for whatever reason, you mistakenly thought that you would get a different answer just because you needed it to.
My point was, there is no way to access system partition or data partition without root. This forum is full of posts from other users asking the same thing, they all got the same answer, it can't be done without root or TWRP. Android just does not work that way, it has a linux kernel, which means, everything requires specific permissions and it is not in the best interests of OEM/carriers to allow access to /system and /data that easily and there is no way to give you "limited" access that only allows you to backup the /system and /data. There is only full permissions or none and they will not allow full permissions to the user.
That is entirely the whole point of people like us that find ways of rooting devices and installing custom recovery in the first place, because it is the ONLY way we can access /system and /data to make backups or modifications.
As for your thoughts of whether there will be a "new" way of making backups if adb and TWRP are no longer viable options....
Who knows? None of us will know until that time comes. We will all just have to wait and see if any takes the time to develop a new method.
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Last year Google announced that adb is very likely to be removed soon.
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Android Debug Bridge (ADB) is a Server - Client pair software
ADB Server runs in the Android device
ADB Client runs in Windows / Linux / Mac iOS
ADB completely is open source. Hence everyone can grab the source code and compile it matching the target Android OS / computer OS. Manufacturers like Samsung & ZTE actually already provide their build of ADB Client suitable to their Android devices: they don't recommend to make use of universal ADB Client that floats around the WEB.
AFAIK Google announced to remove backup / restore feature from ADB Client, not ADB at whole.
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Android Debug Bridge (ADB) is a Server - Client pair software
ADB Server runs in the Android device
ADB Client runs in Windows / Linux / Mac iOS
ADB completely is open source. Hence everyone can grab the source code and compile it matching the target Android OS / computer OS. Manufacturers like Samsung & ZTE actually already provide their build of ADB Client suitable to their Android devices: they don't recommend to make use of universal ADB Client that floats around the WEB.
AFAIK Google announced to remove backup / restore feature from ADB Client, not ADB at whole.
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Yeah, I can't see Google completely removing adb, it is too valuable of a tool for development even for the stuff the carriers and their developers do on their end. Removing it would be like building cars and engines but completely disallowing the production or use of tools to assemble/disassemble the cars or engines.
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Droidriven said:
My point was, there is no way to access system partition or data partition without root.
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I know that and I understand that. I've been using Linux on my private and on my working machines for at least 30 years now, and I know about permissions. And I also understand that there are good reasons for not rooting an Android device.
But that is not the point here.
I am and I always was talking about the recovery here, not the running LOS system, that you run every day to make any use of your phone at all. From my point of view, as a Linux user, booting into recovery is like taking a secondary boot device, eg a USB memory, and starting another Linux system that is completely independent of the one that my PC is running in normal cases. Using this secondary Linux I can do anything to the system and the hard drive that I want, regardless of permissions. I can re-install the boot manager, I can copy or delete files, I can repair the file system, and, most important: I can create images and snapshots of the system that will serve as an lifeline, a certain point in time that I can return to if it should become necessary.
My question was and still is, why a custom recovery like TWRP can include this function, but the recovery made by LOS can or will not do so, or if there is a chance that the LOS recovery will include this function in the future.
Again: I am not talking (and I never was) about making root available in LOS.
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My question was and still is, why a custom recovery like TWRP can include this function, but the recovery made by LOS can or will not do so, or if there is a chance that the LOS recovery will include this function in the future.
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Wondering why you don't ask this question to the developers of LineageOS?
jwoegerbauer said:
@dvdram
Wondering why you don't ask this question to the developers of LineageOS?
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Silly me! I actually believed there would be developers reading this forum. How could I mistaken this statement on the starting page:
"XDA Developers was founded by developers, for developers."
I guess the word "developers" must have another meaning than I have always believed. Thank you for showing me my wrong!