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I ordered the MHL adaptor from T-Mobile's website yesterday, so I should get it today (yeah, I paid the extra $6 for overnight shipping).
Does this phone support FULL mirroring (i.e., when plugged in to TV, TV screen mirrors whatever is on the phone's screen)? I used the full HDMI app on my Evo 4G, and it was great for watching shows from HBO GO on my TV.
Has anyone tried it yet? If not, is there a review out there somewhere that specifically demonstrates this feature?
I guess I'll know tonight when I get home from work!
Thanks,
Rob
I haven't seen it specifically on this phone, but I've seen the Qualcomm MSM8660 demos showing full mirroring. We should be capable of it, but I haven't tried it out yet.
I'm surprised nobody's tried it yet!
Can you use the normal micro HDMI or do you have to buy the adapter to use HDMI? Lol kinda confused how this works with the new port? Could anyone explain? Thanks
You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
Does that help?
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You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
Does that help?
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I believe that was what he said in the first line..
rtmeikle said:
You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
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Thanks for clearing that up!!
Back to the issue at hand... does it do HDMI mirroring or not? I have this bad ass HDMI integration in my Prius that is preventing me from upgrading from the 4G until at least HDMI mirroring is confirmed.
rictorg said:
Back to the issue at hand... does it do HDMI mirroring or not? I have this bad ass HDMI integration in my Prius that is preventing me from upgrading from the 4G until at least HDMI mirroring is confirmed.
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According to this demo from CTIA it appears it can, but this is unfinished testing hardware/firmware so it's still not a confirmation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ynmqtopi9g
This doesn't exactly give you an answer with the level of certainty you are looking for but it's a good sign. We should see some end users with feedback on HDMI features on the production phone streaming in any time now that hopefully confirms that it can do this across any application without problems or limitations.
rtmeikle said:
I ordered the MHL adaptor from T-Mobile's website yesterday, so I should get it today (yeah, I paid the extra $6 for overnight shipping).
Does this phone support FULL mirroring (i.e., when plugged in to TV, TV screen mirrors whatever is on the phone's screen)? I used the full HDMI app on my Evo 4G, and it was great for watching shows from HBO GO on my TV.
Has anyone tried it yet? If not, is there a review out there somewhere that specifically demonstrates this feature?
I guess I'll know tonight when I get home from work!
Thanks,
Rob
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hey rtmeikle . I also got the mhl from tmobile. I hooked it up last night to sadly find out that hdmi mirroring is not supported at all. It was all a big hype it appears. Were you able to get it working? I'm hoping that you were so maybe its just my device....if not, then this phone is going back.
Yep, I got mine yesterday and tested it. It works fine.
You have to have the adaptor plugged in to the phone, a charger plugged to the adaptor, and the HDMI cable running from the phone to the TV.
I got full HDMI mirroring which automatically switched to landscape when I tested Netflix and HBO Go.
Rob
interesting. thanks for the quick respond. When i connect it to my hd tv all i get on the phone is a message that says *HDMI play a video or slideshow to display via hdmi* on the notifications bar. When I click that, nothing happens...
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interesting. thanks for the quick respond. When i connect it to my hd tv all i get on the phone is a message that says *HDMI play a video or slideshow to display via hdmi* on the notifications bar. When I click that, nothing happens...
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Strange. The image of my home screen just popped up on my TV; I didn't have to do anything.
I tested it on the TV in my bedroom, a 3-yr-old Samsung 42" Plasma, nothing fancy.
Maybe tonight I'll test it on my other two TVs and see if it works on all of them.
did you allow the latest OTA upgrade or did you cancel it? I allowed it as soon as I turned the phone on. I also tried it on my 58 samsung plasma hdtv. Its not that old but also not that new.
I'm going to try it tonight on my smaller 32 inch lcd hd tv to see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't though.
Not like it matters since all MHL cables are the same but here is the MHL adapter I'm using: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...4ec1-a08e-e133fa772d53&inCart=True&catCode=23
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did you allow the latest OTA upgrade or did you cancel it? I allowed it as soon as I turned the phone on. I also tried it on my 58 samsung plasma hdtv. Its not that old but also not that new.
I'm going to try it tonight on my smaller 32 inch lcd hd tv to see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't though.
Not like it matters since all MHL cables are the same but here is the MHL adapter I'm using: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...4ec1-a08e-e133fa772d53&inCart=True&catCode=23
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Yep, I've accepted the OTAs. And I'm using the exact same adaptor. Did you plug power into the adaptor too? I didnt' try without plugging it in, but I've heard that it needs to be plugged in to work.
Ok, i finaly got it to work. It wasn't a problem with the phone but a problem with the tv. I had to change some resolution settings on the tv and presto! Hdmi mirroring on its full glory
Now, do you know if I can pair up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse? Thats next for me.
Thanks for all the help.
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Now, do you know if I can pair up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse? Thats next for me.
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This is what I am currently doing. I have hooked up the following.
Mouse: Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000
Keyboard: Logitech MX5500 Keyboard
The keyboard works great. I can type in the applications and setup my keys in the emulators just fine (snesoid etc)
Mouse functionality though is different then you may expect. You don't get a mouse cursor, it just "highlights" selections then you "left click" to go forward. According to my research the right mouse button is supposed to "go back" but is not working for me.
I put up a thread asking others for help with it, so if I find an answer I will let you know.
Updating you on what I found out about the mouse.
"Well it looks like the fancy mouse support with a cursor and button functionality was something that was included in CyanogenMod 6.X then removed on CyanogenMod 7.
They then added a patch for version 7. But now apparently it is being included in his latest CyanogenMod.
Regardless, it appears you need root access "
wait so how do you charge your phone if you use that hdmi adapter? anyone have a link?
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wait so how do you charge your phone if you use that hdmi adapter? anyone have a link?
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the adapter has a USB plug that you use to hook up to a charger, and will charge your phone. Newer TVs are coming that will support charging over HDMI via the MHL adapter, there may be some out but I think will be a standard in 2012 TVs.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-mhl-to-hdmi-adapter-black-218572/
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-sensation-mhl-cable-ac-m490-extmicro-usb-12-pin-to-hdmi-218634/
the HTC one looks lke it includes a HDMI cable, too, but you can see the usb port on each adapter for charging.
So, I ordered the mhl adapter for the sensation from t-mobile on Monday so that I would have it when I got the phone. Well, got the phones on Wednesday and the adapter didn't show till today, so poor planning on my part. I attached a pic of my invoice with the product number for reference.
Anyway, I can say that the adapter works great and displays the full ui from the phone to the tv perfectly. It scales nicely in landscape and you can hardly see any lag in the phone or HDMI out. It's always fun playing angry birds on a plasma screen. Also audio is sent to the tv nicely, angry birds with surround sound is pretty sweet. The extent of my testing is with angry birds and the phone ui, but I'm sure I'll find some more purposeful uses for it in the future.
Something I didn't like about it though. You HAVE TO have the charger plugged in, or you will not get HDMI out. You can plug them in any order that you like, but if there is no charger connected, you will not get HDMI out.
I'm sure someone will fix this once we're rooted, but It's kind of annoying right now. I'm also sure there's a good reason for it to be this way, likely because the battery won't last long sending out hd. I'll just have to get a new tv that supports mhl so I won't have to run two cables, yeah, that's a good excuse to get a new tv, right?
Edit: Here's a link to the T-Mobile store,
http://find.t-mobile.com/controller?N=0&Ntk=primary&Ntx=mode+matchpartialmax&Ntt=supa37117
Pick Sensation 4G and then scroll down to Data, it should be in there.
Edit: Actually, you'll have to go back and pick HTC, then Sensation, then Data. Otherwise it doesn't show up for some reason.
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Will it output the green hornet movie or is it protected?
Couldn't say, I never did the ota, so I can't watch it on the phone at all.
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oh ok, im gonna order one and try it out.
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Will it output the green hornet movie or is it protected?
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have the mhl adapter from tmo as well(hmm...ordered mine last week ..arrived today as well.. ) anyway using the mhl adapter green hornet is currently playing in 2d on my 720p Envision 32" ...no I do not have a 3d tv to test on..edit again 3x youtube 720p and 1080p videos output nicely as well
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have the mhl adapter from tmo as well(hmm...ordered mine last week ..arrived today as well.. ) anyway using the mhl adapter green hornet is currently playing in 2d on my 720p Envision 32" ...no I do not have a 3d tv to test on..edit again 3x youtube 720p and 1080p videos output nicely as well
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Right on, good to hear that HTC hasn't blocked a bunch of content from being outputted like they did with the old Evo.
MHL doesnt support 3d currently. Maybe in revision 2.0 with "hopefully" a firmware update needed instead of new hardware.
But from what I saw online it should only be able to output 2d.
question?i have a 3d samsung led tv that requires glasses,is there anyway to view pics or videos with my evo 3d?
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Something I didn't like about it though. You HAVE TO have the charger plugged in, or you will not get HDMI out. You can plug them in any order that you like, but if there is no charger connected, you will not get HDMI out.
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if the MHL plugs into the Micro-USB and so does the charger, then how can you plug in the charger and the MHL at the same time?
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if the MHL plugs into the Micro-USB and so does the charger, then how can you plug in the charger and the MHL at the same time?
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Mhl adapters have a micro usb port on them so you can charge your phone while outputting hdmi.
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have the mhl adapter from tmo as well(hmm...ordered mine last week ..arrived today as well.. ) anyway using the mhl adapter green hornet is currently playing in 2d on my 720p Envision 32" ...no I do not have a 3d tv to test on..edit again 3x youtube 720p and 1080p videos output nicely as well
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Ok thanks im definately going get one. Im going to check my local tmobile before ordering it.
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if the MHL plugs into the Micro-USB and so does the charger, then how can you plug in the charger and the MHL at the same time?
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EvoSideHustlAZ said:
question?i have a 3d samsung led tv that requires glasses,is there anyway to view pics or videos with my evo 3d?
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If your TV has DLNA support, then yea. Or you can use a PS3 via DLNA, too. I'm not sure of the Xbox has DLNA support, though.
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If your TV has DLNA support, then yea. Or you can use a PS3 via DLNA, too. I'm not sure of the Xbox has DLNA support, though.
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I know this is OT, but I picked up a nice media player a few days ago (had to replace my older Argosy HV335T), and this thing is perfect with DLNA (they just call it UPNP, there is no actual DLNA option on it). Been streaming quite a bit from my EVO 3D already with no delay or lag on it.
http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Digital_Media_Player/OPlay_HD2
I managed to get mine for $139 on Newegg.
So you still need a micro hdmi cable in addition to the mhl cable? I thought the point of it was to reduce the amount of cables you used, not increase
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So you still need a micro hdmi cable in addition to the mhl cable? I thought the point of it was to reduce the amount of cables you used, not increase
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Eventually tv's will be mhl compatible and one cable will do power and video with no adapter.
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So you still need a micro hdmi cable in addition to the mhl cable? I thought the point of it was to reduce the amount of cables you used, not increase
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No, no need for the micro hdmi cable from the Evo 4G. The adapter uses a standard hdmi cable. What you DO need is the micro-USB charge cable to plug into the appropriate port on the adapter.
I have both of those np, got my micro hdmi cable from monoprice
Just fyi pulled pictures on to my pc....was able to open them and using red/cyan glasses to view on 2d monitor and 2d panisonic plasma worked great....havn't played with video yet...will keep you updated
Just literally got mine in the mail. Didn't think T-Mobile would ship it via parcel post with $5.99 standard shipping (I expected at least first class. Way to be cheap about it T-Mobile). Should have opted for overnight since I ordered it last Wednesday and was hoping to get it by Friday or Saturday.
Overall pretty impressive. NetFlix, Green Hornet and everything else I've tried will output to the HDTV I'm a little bit annoyed that you MUST plug in power for it to work. I understand the MHL standard isn't available on any TV yet, but I didn't think power was a requirement with the adapter. Not a huge issue, but still wishing they went with microHDMI.
Only thing I've noticed is with Hulu+ when installing a permission was set to block HDMI, but since I am not able to stream any videos because of an "incompatible device" I can't test it. Can't wait for root though so I can really have fun with CM7 and HDMI mirroring
So, i bought a tmobile mhl adapter plug, and i attempted to plug the microusb, and hdmi cord into the adapter. when i do, my phone tells me HDMI connected- play a video or a slideshow to display, blah blah. anyway, nothing shows up on my tv, it states weak or no signal.
I'm on the latest synergy sense rom.
When i play a video with like youtube, it resizes it to 4:3 instead of 16:9 on the evo 3d, and the sound stops playing but it doesn't display on the tv :/
anyone have any fixes? does synergy not support hdmi out?
Just make sure you have the charger plugged in to the adapter. Do a reboot in your phone and try again.
Had the same prob with leedroid gsm.
See how you get on.
did you plug power cable into the HML adaptor as well?
yep
Yep, everything is plugged in properly, it tells me on my 3d that HDMI is connected. my sound turns off, but nothing displays on my plasma :/ the hdmi cord works since i use it with my apple tv 2, and obviously the adapter works since the evo 3d detects when an hdmi cord and power cable are connected. just wondering if it's the rom. i'm going to try and reinstall the rom to see if it fixes.
did you select the correct hdmi port on your tv?
Yes, I selected the right hdmi port, I even moved the hdmi cable to other ports and checked those as well.
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I seem to have a weird problem with the 3VO. I got an MHL adapter for it, and it work great with a samsung 3d tv. The problem is. When i connect it to my Sanyo tv. It only has a DVI input and ends up offsetting the video to the left and showing this weird strip of colored lines on the right.
Anyone know how to set the output resolution? i have never seen any other device do that with this tv, but to be fair, the only other HDMI device i have is a PS3. Tv is 1080i, but i would like to try to force the output to 720p to see if that corrects the problem. Im running virus' Eternity 1.4.2 right now.
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Im running ICS 4.0.3 SHOstock2 v2.2.4 with 3.0.30-cherrypicker kernel on my AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II i777. I purchased a MENOTEK MHL to HDMI adapter and Im trying to use it with my RCA Plasma TV. I connect the adapter to the HDMI cable then the power cable to the Adapter, and then I connect the adapter to my phone. The tv recognizes that I have the HDMI cable plugged in then the screen goes black. While I have the adapter plugged into the phone, the phone works fine, only there isn't anything being displayed on the screen. I try to launch several video apps, still nothing. The weirdest thing is when I unplug the adapter from my phone, it causes the phone to freeze and I have to pull the battery to restart. Is anyone else having a simular problem and may know of a fix. Ive done a few searches but havent been able to find anything. I appreciate any help that I can get. 
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SaXaPhIDeSoUl said:
Im running ICS 4.0.3 SHOstock2 v2.2.4 with 3.0.30-cherrypicker kernel on my AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II i777. I purchased a MENOTEK MHL to HDMI adapter and Im trying to use it with my RCA Plasma TV. I connect the adapter to the HDMI cable then the power cable to the Adapter, and then I connect the adapter to my phone. The tv recognizes that I have the HDMI cable plugged in then the screen goes black. While I have the adapter plugged into the phone, the phone works fine, only there isn't anything being displayed on the screen. I try to launch several video apps, still nothing. The weirdest thing is when I unplug the adapter from my phone, it causes the phone to freeze and I have to pull the battery to restart. Is anyone else having a simular problem and may know of a fix. Ive done a few searches but havent been able to find anything. I appreciate any help that I can get. 
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Hey mate, I am using MHL to HDMI and I don't have any problem. I am using shostock 2.2.4 and once I connect the MHL adapert the TV mirrors the screen and if I play any videos it identifies and plays in full HD. Not sure what your mean by RCA cable there, so do you have RCA to HDMI cable and use that cable to connect to MHL adapter?
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I am having the same problem with the same identical adapter. Running identical roms as you both. Are you on the lastest versio of ICS Shostock Saxa? Maybe there was a fix in the latest, however I did not see it n the changelog. Maybe we just have bad adapters and Jive's just happens to work. Mine used to work nicely with GB.
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I am having the same problem with the same identical adapter. Running identical roms as you both. Are you on the lastest versio of ICS Shostock Saxa? Maybe there was a fix in the latest, however I did not see it n the changelog. Maybe we just have bad adapters and Jive's just happens to work. Mine used to work nicely with GB.
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I havent updated to ShoStock 2.2.5 but I read in another thread that it could be a kernal issue so I switched to 3.0.30 SIYAH v3.2b5 mswap+ but still no luck, my television screen is still black, the only difference that I noticed was when i unplug the adapter the phone didnt freeze.
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Hey mate, I am using MHL to HDMI and I don't have any problem. I am using shostock 2.2.4 and once I connect the MHL adapert the TV mirrors the screen and if I play any videos it identifies and plays in full HD. Not sure what your mean by RCA cable there, so do you have RCA to HDMI cable and use that cable to connect to MHL adapter?
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Sorry for the late reply RCA is the brand of the TV. Nothing fancy a standard HD Television.
I just updated to shostock 2.2.6.. will see if I get time to test the tv out today and get back to you guys.
Hey guys just tested now. Its working fine... I am using 2.2.6 and its working fine...
Make sure you connect the power cable to the mhl adapter without that it won't work
Let me know how you go
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Hey guys just tested now. Its working fine... I am using 2.2.6 and its working fine...
Make sure you connect the power cable to the mhl adapter without that it won't work
Let me know how you go
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Are you using the cherry picker kernal??, if so I will be flashing back to it.
updated to 2.2.6 still a no go. I'm starting to think my adapter may be DOA.
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Are you using the cherry picker kernal??, if so I will be flashing back to it.
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Yes I am using the cherry picker kernel... try changing you powere cable and see if that makes a difference... If I remove the power cable the tv screen becomes blank..
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Yes I am using the cherry picker kernel... try changing you powere cable and see if that makes a difference... If I remove the power cable the tv screen becomes blank..
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Even after the update to ShoStock 2.2.6 I still get a black screen instead of the TV mirroring the phone. I tried several different power adapters, 2 of them were the original i777 adapter. Im thinking that the mhl adapter is DOA. Im going to try to return it or exchange it for a different one.
I was using the same menotek mhl adapter you were and coming up with the same results. So I went on amazon and ordered the samsung one. Today it arrived and mhl to hdmi is now working on my phone.
yea i definitely will be sending mine back this week. I dont mind spending a couple extra bucks on the samsung adapter.