what will this method do exactly to my phone when i flash it?
bare with me as i am completely new to android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
its the [Heimdall][Odin][Stock][Root]UCKH7 Return/Unbrick to Stock (or Root) by Entropy512
like if i flash that, what will happen?
example questions:
1)Will the os be the exact same as when i first took it out of the box?
or will somethings be gone, e.g. TouchWiz, AT&T apps, apps already pre installed ect..?
2) or is this method's soul purpose is to achieve root and upon flashing, it will retain everything that was loaded on the phone when first taken out of the box?
sorry about the noob question. but i have to get started somehow.
pistolberserk said:
what will this method do exactly to my phone when i flash it?
bare with me as i am completely new to android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
its the [Heimdall][Odin][Stock][Root]UCKH7 Return/Unbrick to Stock (or Root) by Entropy512
like if i flash that, what will happen?
example questions:
1)Will the os be the exact same as when i first took it out of the box?
or will somethings be gone, e.g. TouchWiz, AT&T apps, apps already pre installed ect..?
2) or is this method's soul purpose is to achieve root and upon flashing, it will retain everything that was loaded on the phone when first taken out of the box?
sorry about the noob question. but i have to get started somehow.
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1. Still be EXACTLY LIKE stock with TW and all. You will just have ROOT. Which is like having FULL ADMIN capabilities when relating it to windows computers. ROOT is just the Linux dirivitive of it.
2. Yes.
It is up to you what you want to keep or get rid of as far as any apps/bloatware that ATT/SAMSUNG put on the phone.
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I really appreciate it, thanks. Do you recommend i root? i kind of want to delete all that bloatware and all that crap.
Does rooting (w/o installing a new rom) still allow me to get updates from AT&T? When ICS comes out (assuming it does), will we still get an OTA update for it?
Thanks,
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I really appreciate it, thanks. Do you recommend i root? i kind of want to delete all that bloatware and all that crap.
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rooting, in itself, doesnt do anything to your phone. if you plan on removing all the crap from the phone, then you will need root access. So yes, if thats what you want ... root away. Just be careful of what you remove. You CAN screw up your phone if you remove too much.
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Does rooting (w/o installing a new rom) still allow me to get updates from AT&T? When ICS comes out (assuming it does), will we still get an OTA update for it?
Thanks,
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Because you need to flash a new kernel, I can't say for sure. I dont see why it wouldn't work but then again ... you did mofidy the phone ever-so-slightly, so it might not work. Not sure why you would want OTA updates anyway. The great devs in here will have those OTA updates incorporated into their ROMs shortly after the OTA is released.
@pistolberserk,
Entropy512's stock + root will not change the flash counter. If you are concerned about voiding the warranty, you might want to read the guides linked in my signature.
@Geremyhamlett,
That AT&T would release an OTA of ICS is highly speculative. But I agree with nyydynasty (and almost all other experienced users here that wouldn't even do an OTA update).
Hey Guys,
I own a Samsung Galaxy S4 from Verizon and have followed the guide on how to root it posted on the forums. For a while things were good. My phone booted up with the correct loading screen and my device detected that I was on an official kernel. Now for reasons I'm not sure of, my phone is saying that the kernel is custom and the lock icon has returned when I restart or cold boot my phone. I'm not running custom firm ware, I'm running a stock Verizion kernel. I tried to delete SuperUser, but it isn't installed. My binaries for SuperSU are up-to-date. I'm still rooted, but I would like to get rid of the unlock icon when I boot up and I would like to get the system to recognize that this is an official kernel.
Also ES File Explorer is unable to mount r/w privilages on my phone in order to delete busybox and su so that I could try to re-root the phone again. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!!
Theres no way so far to get rid of it. Mine actually goes back and for between custom and official all the time. Maybe when the bootloader gets unlocked it will do away with it, but until then it does no harm. So if you want to root, that's the price we pay.
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Theres no way so far to get rid of it. Mine actually goes back and for between custom and official all the time. Maybe when the bootloader gets unlocked it will do away with it, but until then it does no harm. So if you want to root, that's the price we pay.
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Most of the time mine is gone. Maybe once a week I might see it.
sneekerpimpz said:
Theres no way so far to get rid of it. Mine actually goes back and for between custom and official all the time. Maybe when the bootloader gets unlocked it will do away with it, but until then it does no harm. So if you want to root, that's the price we pay.
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So I managed to get rid of it. I'm not sure if it's permanent, but here's what I did. I couldn't delete the stuff in the root directory (and this was before I found solid explorer which has better root access programming than es does). So I did a factory reset and found that that worked for a while, but then I noticed that downloading Triangle Away seemed to be causing the problem because the lock icon returned after I installed it and gave it root access. So I deleted it and chose the 'unroot' option from the list of options in supersu. Then I re-rooted the phone using the guide. Now the lock icon hasn't returned, and the device status under the about phone menu says that my firmware is the official one. Another thing I noticed is that I'm running an older version of busybox (version 1.17.1 I think, as installed by motochopper).
Again I'm not sure what I did differently, or changed as a result of my method, but it seems to have worked. Perhaps someone with more development knowledge can let me know what's happened for my own personal information.
Hello. I have done quite a bit of searching, just can't find a similar enough post to tag on some questions. Sorry if this has been asked...but I did look over a month of posts, and google searching.
I have a Note 3 from September, rooted in October...not sure how I got it done...but I jumped the gun and unrooted it with SU thinking I would be able to OTA to 4.4.2. Nope!
So, I am stuck on 4.3.
My big question is how can I get to 4.4.2 with OUT starting over on the phone.
I guess this is a backup question. I have some settings turned on that indicate that a back up is going somewhere, but I can't confirm, and I don't know what all is backed up.
Pictures are backed up, but I would hate to lose them. They are on SD card anyway...so I realize I could take the card out, but something I read suggested I might lose even the micro-simm card contents. Not sure how that would be possible.
But what about things like Quick Notes, and S Note, and Contacts, and all of my apps that I have installed, and settings for those apps.
When I rooted back in October, it worked with out disrupting anything.
How can I get that to happen now WITH an upgrade to 4.4.2 AND getting it rerooted?
If I can't upgrade with out wiping it clean, I am probably going to stay put. So, then what is the best way to root to get "Wifi Tether Router" back working...as it is the only thing I need the phone rooted for.
Finally, what is the difference between NC5 and NC5D. I saw a recent post of somebody else asking it...but none of the replies gave an answer.
Thanks for any feedback.
I don't know if this will help, but you can give it a try. First, you might want to consider that you are where most of us are trying to get back to ( i.e. 4.3 with no KNOX !!! ). Ok, I would go to Samsung Firmware, and download the latest version of 4.4.2 NC5 to your PC. I would backup that copy of 4.3 on your device to your sdcard then if have an ext sdcard copy it there, or copy that backup to your pc. Most of your Pics and data should be in that backup, that you can copy back later with a file explorer like Root Explorer. Now do a factory wipe. Then take the NC5 zip you got from sammie and extract it to a file on your desktop this will change it to a .tar file. Find a copy of Odin v1.85 don't use the 3.09 version on the Samsung website if possible. Cool, reboot your device into download mode, start odin, plug in your device to your PC. Now, load that extracted file on your desktop into PDA odin, and click start. It will take minute to read Md5 then start installing. You will lose root and recovery !!! Your new bootloader will have KNOX 0x0. So, you will have to start over with the root process, but isn't that half the FUN !!! Chainfires v1.94 supersu will root NC5. As for the difference between NC5 and NC5D, It is my understanding they are the same. The D stands for a version of NC5 that was used by Samsung employees ( i.e. programmers and developers ) in the development of NC5. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Lokerd, I see you have read my response. Great!!! I would add the you can root 4.4.2 NC5 several ways. As I said above Chainfires v1.94 SuperSu, and One click autoroot, and Towelroot for 4.4.2. All should root your device without tripping KNOX. However, as soon as you flash a new custom recovery like TWRP or Philz CWM ( my favorite ) it will trip KNOX. If you are out of warranty no biggie, besides you need a custom recovery if you want to get back to your 4.3 backup. ( By the way remember you need the same recovery (i.e. TWRP or CWM ) that you made the 4.3 backup with, now on NC5 just a newer version. This will make it easier to recover the 4.3 backup later. They say the most popular recoveries will recover each others backups, but that is rarely the case.
jimzweb1 said:
First, you might want to consider that you are where most of us are trying to get back to ( i.e. 4.3 with no KNOX !!! ).
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Thanks for taking the time to reply! And to reply with such a nice well though out steps.
So...I should NOT being trying to upgrade? I can do that...just reroot and be done with this. I really don't want to risk having to lose info I have put on the phone, etc. A few new features is not going to be worth it. But, reading about improved 4g and wifi performance. Wifi calling is not important to me. But it would be nice to have the camera on the lock screen...but I bet I could find something that would do that the rooted phone I had.
So, let me ask this. If I do not care about KNOX, is the process you outlined above any easier?
Thanks!
Drew
lokerd said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply! And to reply with such a nice well though out steps.
So...I should NOT being trying to upgrade? I can do that...just reroot and be done with this. I really don't want to risk having to lose info I have put on the phone, etc. A few new features is not going to be worth it. But, reading about improved 4g and wifi performance. Wifi calling is not important to me. But it would be nice to have the camera on the lock screen...but I bet I could find something that would do that the rooted phone I had.
So, let me ask this. If I do not care about KNOX, is the process you outlined above any easier?
Thanks!
Drew
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Well, if you are out of warranty, and you don't care about KNOX go ahead and upgrade. But, consider this: One, so where clear the only reason for the 4.3 backup is to get to your pics and data at a later time. Here is a link about trying to go back http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630514 Once you install 4.4.2 NC5 ( this will include a new kernel, bootloader, baseband, and OS ) you CANNOT go to back to 4.3. If you try to install the 4.3 backup after you have upgraded to NC5 you will soft brick your phone. Then, there's KNOX what is KNOX, KNOX is security software written by the NSA for Samsung. Now I'm not saying its spyware, but Samsung is !!! You can go to Samsung's website and all the info about KNOX you need is there.
To answer your last question, no. You have to go through all the motions.
If it was me, knowing what I know now. I would stay at 4.3, install an engineering bootloader (read up on bootloaders they are not forgiving if you mess up ) then try to upgrade basebands. Here is a link for NAB engineering bootloader which should be 4.3, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655674 Here is the link for a NC5 baseband, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701837 I believe this will improve your 4G lte.
Last, what I'm running. I run Note 3 "Sprint" 4.4.2 NC5 ( no choice bought the device new with that OS, voided my warranty the second day I owned it ). Rooted with Philz CWM recovery ( hltespr v 6.12.9 ) KNOX disabled and removed. I definitely like 4.4.2 NC5 a lot better than 4.3 my daughters Note 3 had 4.3 before I upgraded to 4.4.2 and rooted it. Here is my XDA website http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770729 so if you do upgrade this is a good place to start.
Ok. Sorry for more noob questions.
Ok, the only thing I want to ensure is that I don't lose things like S Note, Action Memo, Contacts, Pictures, apps installed. I just don't want to redo everything. Basically, I just want to upgrade the operating system and have everything up and running like it was...just new OS. Is that possible? I understand what you are saying about not being able to use the back up. I guess I just don't understand if I can upgrade this phone with out having to start back over with everything.
I am not out of warranty (purchased October 2013), but I don't see that it would be a problem. I normally don't break or drop my phone...although I did drop it and picked up a nick a few weeks ago. It was unusual circumstances. Point is...I guess I will worry about warranty issues if that comes up. On the other hand, the home button is a getting a little finicky, so I avoid it...using swipe down, and a notification toggle to go to Home whenever possible.
I don't understand the difference between bootloader vs. flashing vs. upgrading basebands vs. rooting as opposed to those other things. it doesn't help that there are multiple ways to do each of the above.
I think I am in over myhead.
Can you help me figure out what I had done before...as it was working pretty good. I Rooted it to get root access, but not sure how I did it. It was easy, and it didn't erase anything. I think I simply used Odin. Attached is a screenshot of a folder of stuff that I might have used. Can you tell what root method I used?
I think I am just going to go back to what I had...and still with 4.3. I actually looked at my wife's identical phone that is on 4.4.2 and other than wifi calling, I don't see the camera on lock screen, so I don't really think I should be messing with stuff I can't wrap my mind around trying to get to 4.4.2.
lokerd said:
Ok. Sorry for more noob questions.
Ok, the only thing I want to ensure is that I don't lose things like S Note, Action Memo, Contacts, Pictures, apps installed. I just don't want to redo everything. Basically, I just want to upgrade the operating system and have everything up and running like it was...just new OS. Is that possible? I understand what you are saying about not being able to use the back up. I guess I just don't understand if I can upgrade this phone with out having to start back over with everything.
I am not out of warranty (purchased October 2013), but I don't see that it would be a problem. I normally don't break or drop my phone...although I did drop it and picked up a nick a few weeks ago. It was unusual circumstances. Point is...I guess I will worry about warranty issues if that comes up. On the other hand, the home button is a getting a little finicky, so I avoid it...using swipe down, and a notification toggle to go to Home whenever possible.
I don't understand the difference between bootloader vs. flashing vs. upgrading basebands vs. rooting as opposed to those other things. it doesn't help that there are multiple ways to do each of the above.
I think I am in over myhead.
Can you help me figure out what I had done before...as it was working pretty good. I Rooted it to get root access, but not sure how I did it. It was easy, and it didn't erase anything. I think I simply used Odin. Attached is a screenshot of a folder of stuff that I might have used. Can you tell what root method I used?
I think I am just going to go back to what I had...and still with 4.3. I actually looked at my wife's identical phone that is on 4.4.2 and other than wifi calling, I don't see the camera on lock screen, so I don't really think I should be messing with stuff I can't wrap my mind around trying to get to 4.4.2.
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Cool, your version of 4.3 should be NAB and no KNOX. If this is the case then you should be able to root, and return back to stock, if you have say a hardware issue with your device and have to return it under warranty. So, according to your last post image on 10/24/2013 you used CF Autoroot, if you want to read up here is the link to that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
Now to get to the latest version of CF Autoroot you need to go to ChainFires ( CF ) repository here is the link http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ just find the model of your phone and click on File to download. Put that file on your desktop, now go to your android downloads copy and paste Odin v1.85 to your desktop. Click on Odin extract, and open it, now click on PDA a box will open, now select desktop and click on CF Auotroot. It should come up in Odin next to PDA. Now boot your device into download mode, then connect to your PC. In the upper left hand box will light up COMM: with some number in green, blue, or yellow doesn't matter just telling you that a connection was made. Now click start on the bottom of Odin, sit back and watch the magic!
When it says pass your done. Now reboot your phone if doesn't do it by itself go to your app drawer and see if SuperSu is there. To install the Recovery just follow the same steps just substitute the recovery .tar file in place of CF Autroot. I see you have ChainFires v1.65 SuperSu the latest version is v2.01 here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053. If you use CF Autoroot it will probably install the latest version of SuperSu automatically.
I see on 10/25/2013 you downloaded CWM recovery for hltespr ( sprint ) here is the link for Philz CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596001 the latest version for sprint is 6.12.9 I don't use his unified all in one recovery version, I use the sprint version, but the choice is yours. :fingers-crossed:
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Cool, your version of 4.3 should be NAB and no KNOX.
Odin v1.85 to your desktop.
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Thanks for the continued help. Just about ready to reroot the thing.
So, you mention using 1.85...is that only because that is what I have? The latest CF-Auto-Root came with 3.07 but I had already downloaded 3.09 a couple of days ago trying to figure stuff out. I also saw a warning about using the latest Odin...but I think it applied to trying to do the Kindle Fire, which I determined was 3.3 and not able to be rooted with out a special cable, which I have ordered.
Anyway, does it matter if I use the 3.07 that came with the latest version of CF-A-R? Should I use 3.09? Or def stick with 1.85.
EDIT #5: I end up using 1.85 and the original Root, then the new ROOT. So, does it matter that I used the Root from October vs the newest one or older Odin vs. newer? I have it up now, so it is just a matter of tryingt o figure this out.
BTW, I thought I had bricked my phone...went back and read YOUR instruction again, and got it restarted. The instructions on the main CF-A-R thread do not make it very clear.
Thanks a bundle!
Great !!! It doesn't matter which version of Odin you use, as long as it gets the job done. As for CF Autoroot, after your done rooting and boot the device back up. It my take awhile but you will automatically be asked update your apps, and SuperSu will update binarys at that time.
Today I had a disasterous mishap and I accidentally deleted my entire camera photo album instead of just the one picture I was trying to delete. All day I've been researching recovery methods and everything out there requires my phone to be rooted. Up until now I've done everything in my power to avoid rooting the phone, but now I am up against it and so I need to root it as much as I don't want to.
So now I am researching root methods.... and it everything keeps pointing me to the ping-pong root method which apparently doesn't work on the current firmware version (G925VVRU4B0G9). Is there any other method that will allow me to root the phone and hopefully get back my pictures... preferably one that will 1) not trip knox, 2) allow me to unroot it putting it back to normal after i'm done, 3) not factory reset the phone?
Thanks,
Jeff
jdport said:
Today I had a disasterous mishap and I accidentally deleted my entire camera photo album instead of just the one picture I was trying to delete. All day I've been researching recovery methods and everything out there requires my phone to be rooted. Up until now I've done everything in my power to avoid rooting the phone, but now I am up against it and so I need to root it as much as I don't want to.
So now I am researching root methods.... and it everything keeps pointing me to the ping-pong root method which apparently doesn't work on the current firmware version (G925VVRU4B0G9). Is there any other method that will allow me to root the phone and hopefully get back my pictures... preferably one that will 1) not trip knox, 2) allow me to unroot it putting it back to normal after i'm done, 3) not factory reset the phone?
Thanks,
Jeff
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Sorry but no way to root and no way to downgrade either
Hello ,
About a year ago i rooted my phone using kingroot , however i did not replace the kingroot su with super user app the reason for that was because i just wanted to delete some bloatware on my device and then would remove root again .
I proceeded with downloading Titanium Backup and deleted some of the bloatware among which i deleted the default email app from the phone . Not knowing how to properly remove root access from the phone i simply deleted kingroot believing that this would make me lose root access on the phone .
The problem now is that i need to restore the default email app which i previously deleted because an error message keeps popping up on my phone repeadetly ( Unfortunately , Email has stopped ) and it has gotten to the point where the phone is almost unusable . What i want to know is this :
1- Is it possible to install just the kingroot superuser or some other super user so i can use root to download titanium backup again ?
2- Will titanium backup be able to restore the default email app after i download it ?
Oh wow okay you have a few options. One is to use the SuperSUme app to replace kingroot super user with SuperSU. First, you can try downloading superSU from the play store and then titanium backup. I'm not sure if titanium backup will bring back your e-mail app or not. I guess it depends if you backed it up. When all else fails, you can use the flash fire app (given you have superSU) to flash the OF1_rooted_stock_ROM file. This will take you back to 100% stock with root. If that even fails your last option is to use ODIN on your PC to flash the stock ODIN firmware file for whatever firmware you are on. If you want to unroot, getting superSU is a must because it has an unroot option built in.
All of the files I mentioned are either found here in the forums and/or on the play store. Do note that if you're going to use flash fire, the only version you can use is version 0.53.
Lastly, I have written a guide here that may help you with rooting in the future. https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...h-i545-pl1-t3846576/post77710697#post77710697
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Oh wow okay you have a few options. One is to use the SuperSUme app to replace kingroot super user with SuperSU. First, you can try downloading superSU from the play store and then titanium backup. I'm not sure if titanium backup will bring back your e-mail app or not. I guess it depends if you backed it up. When all else fails, you can use the flash fire app (given you have superSU) to flash the OF1_rooted_stock_ROM file. This will take you back to 100% stock with root. If that even fails your last option is to use ODIN on your PC to flash the stock ODIN firmware file for whatever firmware you are on. If you want to unroot, getting superSU is a must because it has an unroot option built in.
All of the files I mentioned are either found here in the forums and/or on the play store. Do note that if you're going to use flash fire, the only version you can use is version 0.53.
Lastly, I have written a guide here that may help you with rooting in the future. https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...h-i545-pl1-t3846576/post77710697#post77710697
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Hello and thanks for the reply , I tried getting SuperSU but it doesn't show up on my play store .
Is it possible to use Odin to flash the stock 5.0.1 ROM for my phone without the superuser and will that reset the phone and return the e-mail app ?
Also assuming this way will work where can i get Odin ?
And also will this interfere with the carrier ? Since the phone is VZW but i am using it on another carrier not in USA currently , will that make the phone unusable with other carriers or its quite unlikely ?
Thanks in advance and sorry to bother you once again ,
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Hello and thanks for the reply , I tried getting SuperSU but it doesn't show up on my play store .
Is it possible to use Odin to flash the stock 5.0.1 ROM for my phone without the superuser and will that reset the phone and return the e-mail app ?
Also assuming this way will work where can i get Odin ?
And also will this interfere with the carrier ? Since the phone is VZW but i am using it on another carrier not in USA currently , will that make the phone unusable with other carriers or its quite unlikely ?
Thanks in advance and sorry to bother you once again ,
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You will need to get the superSU apk file off the web and install it from there then. You can flash the OF1_rooted_stock_ROM file with flash fire 0.53 and that will give you 100% stock with root. You can also flash the ODIN full stock .tar file found here in the forums and that will also get you back to 100% stock.
The Verizon galaxy s4 is carrier unlocked. To use data though you have to set the correct APN settings for the network you are using. I have AT&T and have used my SIM card in my Verizon galaxy s4 before.
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You will need to get the superSU apk file off the web and install it from there then. You can flash the OF1_rooted_stock_ROM file with flash fire 0.53 and that will give you 100% stock with root. You can also flash the ODIN full stock .tar file found here in the forums and that will also get you back to 100% stock.
The Verizon galaxy s4 is carrier unlocked. To use data though you have to set the correct APN settings for the network you are using. I have AT&T and have used my SIM card in my Verizon galaxy s4 before.
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Actually i flashed the official OF1 firmware with odin and it restored the default apps without any problems .
I don't know if this means the phone was unrooted before but several root checkers i tried said that the phone was rooted but the superuser app was missing .
Nevertheless , i thank you for helping me out it might seem little but its thanks to you that i turned to odin and now my phone is in a perfect condition
Yep as I said you can flash the ODIN tar file for OF1 and get back to 100% stock. Good thing that did it for you. As for superSU, you can get it off chain fire website I believe.
If you ODIN back to stock, it more than likely unrooted. Odd that root checker says you're rooted. No problem, glad to help whenever I can. Happy flashing!