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Ok, so quick poll:
I'm trying to decide to upgrade right now (pre-order) with the S3, or wait until fall for the rumored Galaxy Note Competitor from HTC.
Source: http://phandroid.com/2012/04/26/veri...itor-from-htc/
Samsung GS3:
Dual-Core Krait Processor
2GB of RAM??
4.8 inch Pentile Super AMOLED display (720p)
HTC Memo (Like the name?):
Quad-Core Krait Processor
Adreno 320 GPU
1080p Non-Pentile Display
The only downside i see to the HTC one would be that I'd lose grandfathered unlimited data, so that's something to consider.
Thoughts?
If you want a big screen and be able to use a SD card I'd get the s3
I am looking forward to the fall for an HTC Note, after seeing the One X i was very impressed with the UI and feel of the phone. I'm not happy with samsungs huge delay in updates
The htc note competitor looks incredible spec wise, if it has a removable battery and sd it would be insane.
highly doubt these specs are true, especially a 1080p screen
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Ok, so quick poll:
I'm trying to decide to upgrade right now (pre-order) with the S3, or wait until fall for the rumored Galaxy Note Competitor from HTC.
Source: http://phandroid.com/2012/04/26/veri...itor-from-htc/
Samsung GS3:
Dual-Core Krait Processor
2GB of RAM??
4.8 inch Pentile Super AMOLED display (720p)
HTC Memo (Like the name?):
Quad-Core Krait Processor
Adreno 320 GPU
1080p Non-Pentile Display
The only downside i see to the HTC one would be that I'd lose grandfathered unlimited data, so that's something to consider.
Thoughts?
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I am looking forward to the fall for an HTC Note, after seeing the One X i was very impressed with the UI and feel of the phone. I'm not happy with samsungs huge delay in updates
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Lulz ... yeah htc has a great record for updates ....just ask the amaze forum members.
Coming form the one xl I will tell you this: gs3 all the way
And o say that because I hate samsung phones. But the multi tasking issues (its bad, updates havnt fixed it), no sd card slot, no removable battery....ftml
I just got my gs3 yesterday.
No doubt its giant plastic pos, physical build and design is kmart style, but damn what a sick phone. Super fast, no lag and camera smokes the hoXl.
The one x screen crushes the gs3, but I will not go back. Plusses htc sucks with their locked bootloader bs. Go for the gs3.
Yes I know you were not talking about the onex, but I don't have much faith in htc with the way they handle updates and locked bl bs.
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even if, samsung galaxyS3 has big screen. but inmy opinion HTC has Fabulous Features available. in my opinionit is good Competitors.
Hello! I am currently stuck with an ARMv6 MDPI device,the LG Optimus One,so now I need a new one. Since I have a pretty large budget,I was oriented to the HTC One X. But then I found some other valuable devices,so now my choices are:
HTC One X
LG Optimus 4X HD
Samsung Galaxy S3
Now,let's compare them. I don't know if I should buy the One X because of some reasons.
1: Displays
HTC One X has got a Super IPS LCD2 4,7 inch 313ppi display
LG Optimus 4X HD has got a 312ppi 4,7 inch TrueHD IPS
Samsung Galaxy S3 has got a 306ppi 4,8 inch SAMOLED Pentile Matrix
Now,which one is better?
2. Let's compare batteries:
HTC One X has got a Li-Po 1800MAh battery
LG Optimus 4X HD has got a Li-Ion 2150MAh battery
Samsung Galaxy S3 has got a Li-Ion 2100MAh battery
Obviously,the best should one the LG Optimus 4X HD and the worst should be the HTC One X. With its 1800MAh,it has also got a Li-Po battery. Is that better than Li-Ion,what do you think?
3. Now,other specs:
Frontal camera is 1,9MP on Galaxy S3,but 1,3 on O4X and One X
One X has no SD Slot(but 25GB of dropbox free space),while Galaxy S3 and O4X yes.
One X has got HTC Sense 4.0,but battery is not removable.
Now,comparing all those things,which one would you choose? I can't make my mind right now.
If you're just gonna root them go for SIII since it's the world's most popular phone.
If not then you gotta look into software, personally, after only seeing a few pictures of the phones, I would say Sense 4 (HTC) Is the best looking UI. Though stock ICS beats them all.
If I was to buy a new phone right now, today, it would probably be Xperia S. Or if it's too tricky to remove the battery, I would consider Xperia Acro S.
HTC sense is horrible in my opinion. I own a galaxy s3 and i could say it's the best phone i ever had, and i owned a huge collection: iphone 3g, 3gs, iphone 4, 4s, HTC magic, HTC hero, galaxy sii , galaxy nexus, galaxy note and galaxy s3
Yeah,I won't buy the Optimus 4X HD. The challenge is now between HTC One X and S3.
I would buy the HTC One X. I found another reason stopping me from buying it: HTC One X has not got menu button,instead of it there is a multitasking button. Obviously it can be remapped to menu button,but how will I do that with non-sense roms? Now,reasons why I would not buy it
Li-Po 1800MAh battery
Non-removable battery
Multitasking button
No sd slot and display,but that ain't important at all now.
I will get informed about the multitasking button. If it's all okay,I might go for it.
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Yeah,I won't buy the Optimus 4X HD. The challenge is now between HTC One X and S3.
I would buy the HTC One X. I found another reason stopping me from buying it: HTC One X has not got menu button,instead of it there is a multitasking button. Obviously it can be remapped to menu button,but how will I do that with non-sense roms? Now,reasons why I would not buy it
Li-Po 1800MAh battery
Non-removable battery
Multitasking button
No sd slot and display,but that ain't important at all now.
I will get informed about the multitasking button. If it's all okay,I might go for it.
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Galaxy Nexus or new upcoming Nexus devices!
The HTC has horrendous battery life and a non replaceable battery so if you get caught short on battery you really are stuffed, and if you planning on Rooting there is always the possibility the phone freezes up and since you can't pull the battery you really are in trouble.
I wanted to nexus one so bad when it came out but didn't have the money so I wanted to save for the next one. Unfortunately the next nexus was Samsung made as well as the next and I myself am not a Samsung fan. With rumors of a galaxy nexus 2 I wanted to know your thoughts. Do you think the rumors or true? Do you think the rumors of 5 nexus devices coming out in 2012 are true? Who do you think will/should make the next nexus? What specs would you like to see? Do you expect another version launch? What is your dream nexus?
My dream nexus right now would be either HTC made (but doubtful to happen) or Asus made (also doubtful). I personally think Asus makes good products and would like to see them push the smartphone market (please do not rant here about nexus 7 defects) . Spec wise I wanna see a 1.7ghz quad core with 2 gigs of ram with a 8 megapixel rear camera 1.9 mp front. Big enough screen but not a phablet. And hopefully sd card slot but doubtful if no sd card then 16-32gb is fine with me.
Current devices:
Asus Nexus 7
HTC Sensation 4G
T-Mobile mytouch 3G (HTC Magic) [DISCONTINUED]
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ROCKSTAR XS said:
I wanted to nexus one so bad when it came out but didn't have the money so I wanted to save for the next one. Unfortunately the next nexus was Samsung made as well as the next and I myself am not a Samsung fan. With rumors of a galaxy nexus 2 I wanted to know your thoughts. Do you think the rumors or true? Do you think the rumors of 5 nexus devices coming out in 2012 are true? Who do you think will/should make the next nexus? What specs would you like to see? Do you expect another version launch? What is your dream nexus?
My dream nexus right now would be either HTC made (but doubtful to happen) or Asus made (also doubtful). I personally think Asus makes good products and would like to see them push the smartphone market (please do not rant here about nexus 7 defects) . Spec wise I wanna see a 1.7ghz quad core with 2 gigs of ram with a 8 megapixel rear camera 1.9 mp front. Big enough screen but not a phablet. And hopefully sd card slot but doubtful if no sd card then 16-32gb is fine with me.
Current devices:
Asus Nexus 7
HTC Sensation 4G
T-Mobile mytouch 3G (HTC Magic) [DISCONTINUED]
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I'm kind of surprised they aren't going with a quad core processor, the fact that they are at least bringing the camera up to the same spec as the sgs3 is nice and not having options of larger emmc memory isn't that spectacular. This is the comparison I was going by
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/08/21/new-nexus-rumors-large-display-dual-core-sd-card-slot/
Honestly I don't think Samsung would take a step backwards. I think it's a false early rumor. Why would they release the s3 then release a nexus phone that isn't as good or better. That's just my opinion. I'm looking forward to the nexus phone this year because I hope it'll have a buttery quad core. And hopefully mountain view will look elsewhere for a manufacturer instead of staying with Samsung.
Current devices:
Asus Nexus 7
HTC Sensation 4G
T-Mobile mytouch 3G (HTC Magic) [DISCONTINUED]
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Maybe both Samsung(mid range) and LG(Flagship)
I guess there will be a updated version or Galaxy Nexus from Samsung as a mid range Nexus continuing the same Price tag as the current Galaxy Nexus and a flagship from the LG, that is what the rumors saying..
also the Nexus Q player(what if we leave it for htc just kidding..) i think these 3 devices are going to be unveiled in coming google's event..
and it also makes 5 Nexus devises in the Play store..
Or just drop one of the Nexus phone from samsung or Lg and add the GSM/3G version of Nexus 7(i think this wont be the case)..
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leaked 5" HTC might be the another flagship i guess..
also google will drop galaxy nexus from the store and adds the updated Galaxy Nexus from Google and making 5 devices...
I hope Motorola makes a Nexus with google
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Only thing that stops me ever buying a Nexus device is lack of external SD slot.
Because to me Nexus is like 1 Android step up from a freaking iPhone.
As of now, I really don't mind if it's another Samsung. I am a very happy owner of a Galaxy Nexus, and it has worked wonders for me.
However, for the next nexus, I do want to see some improvements in specific areas. Aside from all the usual spec improvements (quad core or high-end dual core makes no difference to me, as long as the phone can keep up with the tasks), I would definitely want:
-A better camera. Not only more MP, but a better light sensor and photoreceptor. MP don't really make a difference if the actual device is low quality. It will be a great thing to be able to compete against the superb camera on the iPhone... as of now, that's not the case.
-Better battery life. May it be software improvements, a larger battery, whatever makes sense, I just want a phone that will work for me all day.
-Higher quality materials. While I did like the design of the Galaxy Nexus, I wouldn't mind a higher quality design. Using metal and maybe a stronger glass (Gorilla Glass?) would highly improve the appearance of the device and the overall durability.
Specs are specs, and in this fast-paced world, they will continue changing at blazing speeds. I want a phone that is outstandingly useful, all day. Google has really done wonders with JB and the world of information they place at your fingertips, and while it will always remain a matter of "how much more can this phone do?", I would also like Google to focus on "how well does it do it?". I'm eagerly awaiting the next Nexus device.
ROCKSTAR XS said:
Honestly I don't think Samsung would take a step backwards. I think it's a false early rumor. Why would they release the s3 then release a nexus phone that isn't as good or better. That's just my opinion. I'm looking forward to the nexus phone this year because I hope it'll have a buttery quad core. And hopefully mountain view will look elsewhere for a manufacturer instead of staying with Samsung.
Current devices:
Asus Nexus 7
HTC Sensation 4G
T-Mobile mytouch 3G (HTC Magic) [DISCONTINUED]
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I don't think it works like that. Google are the ones that control what kind of hardware goes to their Nexus devices. Samsung just has the tech to produce them. Think of it as an upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus instead of the Galaxy S3
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The Nexus S was a warmed over Galaxy S, Galaxy Nexus was a warmed over Galaxy S II, the Galaxy Nexus 2/+ will be a warmed over ... (I think I see a pattern)
I hope that the rumors are true and there will be a line of Nexus devices. More importantly it would be nice to see Google make nice with the American carriers and see at least one Nexus subsidized on each carrier. And not at the $299 price point either.
While I have had the best luck with Samsung devices I really would like to see something like the HTC 8X as the nexus device. Black is so boring, and white attracts too much dirt. The bright vibrant colors with a Holo theme to match the colors (just like the WP8 tie in) would be awesome. I said this for Jelly Bean, but I hope the Windows Phone kind of simple universal accent colors makes its way to Android.
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After reading about the One X+ I was considering picking one up as I loved my One X, until I saw the price..
I noticed the retail price for the HTC One X+ seems to be around £480, how can HTC justify this price? You can pick up a brand new sim free One X for around £350 now, so what's so special about the One X+ to warrant the extra £130+ price difference?
From what I can see of you're paying extra for a 0.2Ghz CPU boost, slighly bigger battery and bit of extra storage. Same size, same screen, no SD card slot, no extra RAM, no removable battery.
I would have loved to get this device, but I can warrant the huge price jump for such minimal improvement.
One X was the same price when it launched.
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kujoswrath said:
One X was the same price when it launched.
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Yes, but the One X was a new device on release, this is the same phone with a few minor improvements.
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Yes, but the One X was a new device on release, this is the same phone with a few minor improvements.
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few minor improvements?
Study the benchmarks and specs ! it's quite a difference.
Price will drop eventually to compete with S3 and others. This will be the best smartphone on the market when it launches. The new CPU inst only faster but more efficient... Which improves battery life considerably in this phone. It has double the storage so for the bestnpgone around I find it reasonably priced for launch.
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TheAquanox said:
Price will drop eventually to compete with S3 and others. This will be the best smartphone on the market when it launches. The new CPU inst only faster but more efficient... Which improves battery life considerably in this phone. It has double the storage so for the bestnpgone around I find it reasonably priced for launch.
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Don't agree, it's possible the Nexus 4 will launch before or around the same time as the One X + (I heard 29th October?) And that will triumph over this.
As for the CPU in the One X+ I read it's supposed to be 60% faster than the original One X, is this true? How does this work considering it still uses the same Tegra 3? Or does it use a different variation that I'm not aware of?
The lack of 2gb of RAM concerned me the most though, after using the Note 2 for a while now I've gotten used to not having to force close load of background processes, I would have thought HTC would have crammed an extra GB in there.
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Don't agree, it's possible the Nexus 4 will launch before or around the same time as the One X + (I heard 29th October?) And that will triumph over this.
As for the CPU in the One X+ I read it's supposed to be 60% faster than the original One X, is this true? How does this work considering it still uses the same Tegra 3? Or does it use a different variation that I'm not aware of?
The lack of 2gb of RAM concerned me the most though, after using the Note 2 for a while now I've gotten used to not having to force close load of background processes, I would have thought HTC would have crammed an extra GB in there.
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It uses a difd cpu
The regular hox has a ap33 and the hox+ a ap37 so also higher gpu clocks besides the higher cpu clocks
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I think the price is ok. This phone is a great machine! I have de One X and love it! The One X+ will be even better!
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It uses a different CPU. Ita not the same tegra 3.
As for the Nexus 4... It looks its not intended to compete with the powerhouses... Being based in the optimus G I dont expect the camera to be any great... Also its not quad core and overall its a lower speced cellphone.
The note 2 is great yes but uts a phablet... The Droid Dna is intended to compete on that level (and thriumph with that LCD 3 1080p screen) not the X+.
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It uses a difd cpu
The regular hox has a ap33 and the hox+ a ap37 so also higher gpu clocks besides the higher cpu clocks
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It uses a different CPU. Ita not the same tegra 3.
As for the Nexus 4... It looks its not intended to compete with the powerhouses... Being based in the optimus G I dont expect the camera to be any great... Also its not quad core and overall its a lower speced cellphone.
The note 2 is great yes but uts a phablet... The Droid Dna is intended to compete on that level (and thriumph with that LCD 3 1080p screen) not the X+.
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Low spec? The Nexus 4 has a Quad core Snapdragon S4 CPU, 2gb RAM and a 768 x 1280 display which is rumoured to be Super LCD 2.
Technically speaking, it out performs all other phones out right now and will be the most powerful phone when its released.
The HTC one X+ is not overpriced it costs as much as any flagship phone excluding iPhone 5 which costs £530. Yes their are some flagships phones which are cheaper like the LG nexus 4 which is rumoured by carphone warehouse to cost £380. Even if the update was minor a flagship phone should still cost the same as the previous flagship.
I wouldn't recommend you to buy any flagship phone when they are released because they are all overpriced, I've always felt that £350 was enough but it obviously isn't for a flagship. I would recommend you wait till the price drops on 2nd hand phones like the HTC one X which you can buy in new condition for £300 on eBay. But if you want to buy it from a retailer then you will waste a lot of money.
I can remember checking the price of the HTC one X few months ago it was being sold for £350 new on eBay, now it's much cheaper. I might buy the HTC one X+ when it costs the same on eBay as the one X. The HTC sensation xe sells in eBay with beats headphones which tu whet with for £280 with that you can buy the one X so you are upgrading from a previous flagship to another for free. But bearing in mind you will have to buy it after 6 months by then another flagship will release so you'll be updating your HTC every six months for free or you may have to spend an extra £75 on top. But for a that price you will be getting a lot of new features.
I might buy the HTC one X+ when its cheap but I'm not a fan of the camera bump, polycarbonate, and the loudspeaker and screen size 4.3 is perfect not to wide not to long.
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2GB of RAM sounds really good, but other than that how exactly does it outperform the One X+?
Early reviews of it report rather low Benchmark ratings. It doesn't even get close to the original One X. I know this is subject to change at launch, but it would need to almost double their scores to rival the One X+ in Quadrant for example.
I also don't have high hopes with the camera considering how average the LG Optimus G performs.
I don't know where did you get the rumor of an LCD 2 screen but right now, HTC makes the best screens on the market. Currently this crown is held by the HTC J Butterfly (Japan) whose International similar should be the Droid X or Droid DNA.
The internal storage of the X+ is 64GB. The leaked prototype of the Nexus 4 is 8GB (Wtf Google... seriously...) and they don't have an SD slot either. It will be lucky if the final build has 16GB... let alone 32.
And I could go on about design, sound...
All in all, I'm not saying the Nexus 4 will be a bad phone. Heck it will probably be one of the best in the $400 dollar neighbourhood, but don't expect it to rival the One X+ and Optimus G in terms of performance and overall.
I expect the One X+ to be the best phone of 2012 unless Google has something under the hood we don't know about, and the Droid X (if it makes it for 2012) the best 5 inch+ smartphone (or phablet?) of the year. (Leaked specs talk about 2GB of Ram, Quad Core snapdragon, and of course an absolutely killer LCD 3 1080p 440ppi 5 inch screen) Technically speaking, is as big as a jump as the retina display was when the new iPad launched.
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Low spec? The Nexus 4 has a Quad core Snapdragon S4 CPU, 2gb RAM and a 768 x 1280 display which is rumoured to be Super LCD 2.
Technically speaking, it out performs all other phones out right now and will be the most powerful phone when its released.
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The your right that's what I'm arguing about to HTC one X with jelly bean beats the sg3 check gsm arena and the only think about the gs3 thats batter is the battery which the HTC one X+ will solve. The only reason why I don't want to buy one X+ is because of the 40nm and lack of 4g in the UK and the camera should be flat instead of a bump.
Now the thing I don't like about the one x+ is the camera bump it is the same just a red ring, instead they should have made it flat that is what you call a model improvement they fixed the internal problems but didn't bother with the external which is a shame. I want to see the one X+ succesor with a flat camera, tegra 4 (quad a15 28nm 24gpu) and a really loud and clear loud speaker. I don't think we will see that without the screen increasing which is a shame.
All I want is that hardware to improve but why do they have to increase the screen size every year small and powerful beats the lot 4.3 is perfect. Next year all flagships will have 5". I will probably have to jump ship to wp8.
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I think it is overpriced. Not to compare it to the nexus 4, but its a one x refresh, the price shouldnt be that high.
Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
Edit:
Also considering the LG Optimus G now coz the reviews r pretty good
LG isn't as bad as ppl think it is. Nexus products are undoubtedly good.
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AdX9170 said:
Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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well the nexus 4 has a quad core krait at 1.6GHz and a 2GB RAM.. i mean the best u can get for that price now is a 1GHz dual core with max 1GB RAM..
so i'm not sure how to believe the build quality
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
AdX9170 said:
give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
But the Main drawback of nexus is it does not have a sd card slot if storage not an issue for you then nexus is an option.. I think it will available in 8 and 16 GB ..please correct me if I am wrong..
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for me its best wait another bit because i think google will do like with nexus 7.now lg nexus 8\16,then after a month,2 or 3,also upper storage at a bit more price..just my suggestion,but i seriously think they will do so.Anyways,in that comparison,lg nexus 4 all the way.at least also the sony,but man,a nexus is a nexus!in 2016 probably you will have in this day upcoming the android 8.0 for lg nexus 4.think of it
the hardware matters more to me.. u can always get a custom rom but u cant change the hardware.. and also, im not considering ne phone bigger than 4.7 inches.. so nexus 7 is outta the picture.. so is note 2.
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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If HTC or Sony come out with a quad core krait phone il b the first one to buy it
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I feel like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number of reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said there is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest and greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonate shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I fee like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said their is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest a greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonite shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
The software on the nexus 4 isn't the final version, so wait until the consumer version comes out!
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I'd get the One X+. It's really a joy to hold, looks great, and already has a massive development community.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I wouldn't totally write off the Nexus 4 yet. I'm still considering it. Partly because it is a very good deal, for an unlocked phone. The One X+ or Xperia T and Optimus G will probably cost almost twice as much, unlocked.
And I think devgee is correct that the review units for the Nexus 4 did not have the final consumer version of the software on them yet. This might address the battery life and cpu benchmark issues. (It's unfortunate the reviews get published on devices that aren't really what will ship, because any improvements or changes can get overlooked later. I don't know if these reviewers will go back and retest the device.)
For me, it's the minimal storage on the Nexus 4 that makes me hesitate the most, but maybe I can learn to live with it.
If you like the Optimus G, it's definitely worth considering, since it doesn't have the storage limitations of the Nexus 4, and it tested well for battery life and in the cpu benchmarks. And some versions have a higher resolution 13MP camera. But you give up the pure Android experience. And as James.UBC points out, I don't know that it will have as many custom ROM options as the One X+. I don't really like the design of the Optimus G, but that is entirely a superficial reason not to get it and only my personal taste. Some people think it looks great.
I agree that it would be nice to have the S4 Pro chipset. You can also get this in the Asus Padfone 2, which is a cool phone. It also has 2GB of RAM, the Adreno 320, LTE (for certain frequencies), a 2140 mAh battery, and 16/32/64GB storage options. Plus there's the tablet attachement, if you're into that. Its big downside is that it may have no custom ROMs for it at all, if you want that. I think the original Padfone had basically no development. It's a bit puzzling, because this is a cool phone.
I also agree with James.UBC that the One X+ has a great design. To me its main downsides are that it will be much more expensive than the Nexus 4, unlocked (probably $600US or more). And I don't know if it will have an unlocked bootloader, depending on which version I want to get. And even if it does, I'll have to wait for the development community to catch up and release a ROM that will give me a stock-like Android experience (I don't like Sense). And of course, it has a very good CPU, but one from the previous generation of architecture. I tend to keep my phones for a while, so something that is as future proof as possible is good for me.
Anyway, I recommend that you read reviews of the devices you're interested in on the sites I mentioned in my first post and search around for other reviews. Reviews are easy to find and you get a sense pretty quickly of how thoughtful and knowledgeable the reviewer is. Then keep an eye out in the reviews for comments about the features that matter to you and any problems mentioned. I wouldn't take any one particular review as necessarily right. But if you read several, you start to get a feel for what the issues are.
In the end, you probably can't go wrong with any of these devices either. It really comes down to a matter of personal taste and which features are most important to you. No one device is the best one for everybody.
Thanks a lot cb474.. for me, storage is very important and so is camera.. price comes later in the priority list.. development is also important..
nexus 4 will only have 11~12GB of user available space.. on my x10, i have a 16GB microsd with an ext3 partition of ~700MB which is almost full.. in spite of that i have used up more than 11GB on the sd so i dont think 11GB overall free mem will b enough for me
so my options should be the optimus g (which has an average camera), one x+ (has old generation hardware), xperia t (has dual core with only 1GB ram)... arggghhh!!!
padphone 2 is also gr8 but if theres no dev on it then i'm not willing to go for it
ok this thread has reached a dead end for now.. will wait for the said phones to release and get better reviews..
thanks folks!!
Yeah, it's a hard decision to make. I remain torn between the Nexus 4 and One X+. I care about storage too. 16GB is just a little paltry, for the reasons you point out. At least 32GB would have been nice. Some people think there's a chance there will be a refresh of the Nexus 4 in a few months, with more storage. But I've learned my lesson in the past, about waiting around for rumored and speculated phones.
I'm also a little concerned about the mediocre battery life the Nexus 4 is currently getting, although it's with pre-release software. I'm a bit in a wait and see mode on that.
I agree that as nice as the Padfone 2 is, without development, it's ruled out for me. I presonally would not consider the Sony because of the dual core processor.
It's true the One X+ has a previous generation hardware, but only six months ago it was cutting edge, so I feel like it's splitting hairs a bit. On the other hand, if gaming is important to you the newer generation cpu and gpu in the Nexus 4/Optimus G will make a difference. The bigger long term (future proof) limitation of the One X+, to me, is the 1GB or RAM. But I think it's still a nice phone worth considering.
Still, as I said, if you like the Optimus G, it seems like a good choice. Yeah the One X+ camera hardware is better, it's software is supposed to have a slightly annoying continuous autofocus function. But on some level all these phones are good enough. The great phone cameras are in the Nokia phones, the Lumia 920 and the 808 Pureview. Unless that's super imporant to you, I think it may not be the most important point for the decision.
Good luck in deciding. I'm waiting for more reviews too.