I've been waiting to see how this Jelly Bean update is working out for people. I'm unlocked and rooted very close to jumping in.My biggest gripes has been the browser ANR's and sub par Wifi. However I'm good with my Prime for the most part...Which is why I've been reluctant to flash new any of the latest Jelly Bean Roms. I'm aware I can NFlash and revert back ((I think) but prefer to get the feedback anyways.
I know there's a few forums about what people think since the update but this thread is basically to see who updated to Jelly Bean and wished they stayed on ICS because they have new issues, or just hasn't noticed much of a difference. Moderators feel free to fix anything I may have missed since its a poll.
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I had many many browser ANRs on ICS and after moving to CM10 they are all gone . As you are unlocked I think you should try it by yourself if it fits you (do nvflash before just in case). Wifi seems to me unchanged (ie not better).
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My Prime never had that much problems to begin with, but sometimes I had some ANR and my Wifi didnt download stuff fast and sometimes disconnected, but rarely. Since JB I never got ANR and in the beginning I was getting some reboot, I still have an issue with my ADW Launcher it was working correctly before update, but now sometimes icons are weirdly displayed, but I blame them cause now its listed as incompatible and before it was listed compatible with the Prime. Yesterday I installed Bards Tale and downloaded the 3.5 Gig version and the download of tha additional data was very fast.
SO overall my tablet is better with JB
I'm not fully satisfied with the actual upgrade process as it bricked my Prime. But I am satisfied with Asus RMA service who fixed it very quickly (at no charge).
JB itself seems slightly snappier, but not significantly so. Also what I'm seeing may be more the factory reset and less the actual Project Butter. And it feels like they slightly shortened some animation times (something I already did on some phones before, by using Settings -> Development options), which of course makes it feel slightly faster. Google Now is a bit lackluster so far, but it's not something I intended to use anyway. Voice-based keyboard is a nice touch, and great that it works offline, but more gimmicky than useful to me.
There's nothing really wrong with it so far though. In that regard, I'm satisfied with the update and don't need ICS back. However, judging from the lack of real improvements, I think I'm not going to update my S3 to JB any day soon - I'm not missing out on anything really, and don't want to risk any compatibility issues.
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I'm not fully satisfied with the actual upgrade process as it bricked my Prime. But I am satisfied with Asus RMA service who fixed it very quickly (at no charge).
JB itself seems slightly snappier, but not significantly so. Also what I'm seeing may be more the factory reset and less the actual Project Butter. And it feels like they slightly shortened some animation times (something I already did on some phones before, by using Settings -> Development options), which of course makes it feel slightly faster. Google Now is a bit lackluster so far, but it's not something I intended to use anyway. Voice-based keyboard is a nice touch, and great that it works offline, but more gimmicky than useful to me.
There's nothing really wrong with it so far though. In that regard, I'm satisfied with the update and don't need ICS back. However, judging from the lack of real improvements, I think I'm not going to update my S3 to JB any day soon - I'm not missing out on anything really, and don't want to risk any compatibility issues.
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My Prime on JB is way faster. But, JB on my S3 is amazing. So smooth. I'm running AOKP and i dont regret it.
I appreciate this. Especially since I had forgot where I had read somewhere else about some of the apps aren't compatible..Yet. Overall per the poll though I, MOST ppl are happy with the update. I'm considering figuring out how to flash this NVflash to be able to give this a shot and revert back if I'm not happy. I actually flashed CM10 art 1 point but didnt like the fact it didnt stream audio via HDMI.
I also just read the WIFI Tether is not working with Transformer Prime? Is this true for anyone else..That would be a deal breaker for me. I like having WIFI wherever I bring the tablet.
Keep the feedback coming!
I also just read the WIFI Tether is not working with Transformer Prime? Is this true for anyone else..That would be a deal breaker for me. I like having WIFI wherever I bring the tablet.
Wifi tether does work with jellybean I use it when I'm out to play the shadow gun beta you have to have internet connection.
I absolutely hate the JB update After flashing and doing the factory reset, there is noticable sluggishness on the launcher and app drawer without forcing GPU rendering. Feel like the whole point of "Project Butter" is that it should just work.
The onscreen keyboard responsiveness is awful and a huge step back from ICS. I'm no longer able to touch type quickly as trying to do so on JB will result in many missed characters. I became proficient at typing on the keyboard, I shouldn't have to step back in order to just be able to type words without missing characters.
Losing the ability to use my synched bookmarks from Chrome is a pain in the neck.
Game performance is hugely impacted by JB on the Prime. GTA3 is pretty much unplayable on JB!
Looking now into unlocking and flashing to an ICS rom as I feel like my tablet is now in the worst state it's ever been. The stability of the browser is great don't get me wrong but for all of the functionality I've essentially lost to get that, it just isn't worth it.
My prime experience with jelly bean has been great. Not perfect, but in comparison to ICS, it has been great
Well, when I updated to JB with a locked bootloader and lost root, JB wasn't all that great: still some ANRs and a lot of lag. I just recently unlocked, regained root, and installed all my mods: since then JB really is a godsend. Browser is ridiculously quick and scrolling is unbelievable (browser2ram). Overall feel is definitely improved.
Biggest gripe is the HDMI out got porked, and the backspace issue isn't fun either. But dear lord it's so much smoother than ICS (all my animations are set to .5x), in all respects. Still lags when installing apps, but doesn't come to a halt like ICS.
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good info! Also seems ppl are more happy with the update by the poll. I guess I've been paranoid for nothing. Although I can also see why it may still be a good idea to have NVFlash.
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good info! Also seems ppl are more happy with the update by the poll. I guess I've been paranoid for nothing. Although I can also see why it may still be a good idea to have NVFlash.
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Same boat. Thanks for the thread.
no doubt, JB is better (especially HB) :angel:
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I got my Transformer Prime earlier today (about 2:00pm to be exact) and I've been screwing with it all day. I love the way it feels and it made me very happy. The whole day I had also been postponing the update...
but I did it. I already miss the looks and feel that honeycomb offered. Yes, the ICS update may bring out the hardware a little more, but why did they "downgrade" some of the niceness of the GUI? The thing I liked about HC was that it felt different. It was a unique tablet OS that wasn't like anything else. Now that it has ICS, it feels like a bigger version of the ICS phone version. Long pressing home screens no longer brings up that convenient, pretty menu, but now just asks for the wallpaper location. The app drawer is no longer transparent and doesn't have that "fade" animation anymore, which I really liked. The home screens now have an unnecessary "dot counter" at the top and the default clock isn't the pretty blue one that I liked anymore. I feel like my first experience with the tablet is now history.
To top it off, the camera feels uglier and takes longer to snap photos. The flash is also messed up, because now when I take photos with the flash they are extremely bright and too white. Before, they would simply be brightened up a little bit.
I know some of this stuff can be fixed with app installs and stuff, but I really loved honeycomb and now I feel like the tablet isn't the same.
I agree whole-heartedly. I never expected to be saying it because I had been convinced by all the hype of how awesome ICS would be. Unfortunately, now that I've updated, I'm realizing that its no upgrade- lots of games/apps no longer work and the UI is only a shadow of its former self (see previous post). Hopefully someone will find a way to get these features to us, before we have to seek the next tablet.
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I'm just hoping when the bootloader gets unlocked that someone makes an optimized honeycomb ROM. I know I'll be installing that for sure..
I think Asus rushed ICS on to the Prime. All the lock ups, freezes etc. Other than that I'm a fan of ICS. Honeycomb is an eyesore compared to it.
Well on top of that, all of the other stock apps seem to be downgraded as well. The calendar no longer has the nice coloring that it had before, the camera is now an ugly gray gradient color and is slow to take pictures, the lock screen no longer "ripples" and doesn't have the sleek animation that it had before, the homescreens now require more distance to swipe through (which is bad for me since I like swiping the corners a lot), the settings screen is all jumbled up, the clock is ugly, the gallery is now 2D and not as "nice" as the old one...need I go on?
ICS is such a downgrade for me. As soon as that bootloader gets unlocked I'm reverting to honeycomb right away.
I find the changes to UI in Android 4.0 as the best thing Android could have done. Native apps look sleek and modern, the sci-fi'ish/TRON coloring of UI itself is perfect for the culture it represents without being a bother for regular users.
I really, really love it.
But people are different, so it's interesting to hear some still prefer Honeycomb.
I love the style of ICS as well; the light blue / gray coloring is awesome. I'm just saying I really loved the black / blue honeycomb a whole lot more. It felt so much less cluttered and it felt "cooler" to me. Now I can't go back for at least a few more weeks
IcS OS the best thing to happen to Prime. Plus it was built for it anyways. People forgetting device was supposed to originally with ICS anyways. Yeah the long press feature on-screen of HC is missed but ill be OK..lol. too many people wanted ICS. ICS did fix alot of issues and speed things up nicely. If we would still be stuck on HC everyone would be crying about it. Plus ICS is the universal version. So phone version supposed to look similar. More n more benefits of ICS will show itself as more updates come. Probably with next update due anyday now.
I know what you mean and I agree with you. ICS definitely is a step forward and it was made to unify the platform and make everything better. My point is that I loved the way honeycomb felt and this is a little less nice in my opinion. Also to be honest I feel like it's slower now..but maybe I'm doing something wrong.
EDIT: Forgot to turn on "Force GPU Rendering" in development settings. It's super smooth now..like really smooth.
I'm glad I disabled my update. I was seeing all the problems people were having with updating to ICS. I think I'll wait until the bootloader is unlocked and we have a working CWM so I can do a nandroid backup before flashing any upgrades.
I'm so glad I've seen this, I thought I was the only one who preferred honeycomb on the prime.
Ics on my sensation = pure awesomeness
ics on my prime = just not as cool
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I like it better (ICS) but where did Riptide go?
All I know is that when I pick up my original Transformer and use it for a few minutes, I'm missing the Prime pretty immediately--and ICS is one of the reasons. I just don't like Honeycomb...
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IcS OS the best thing to happen to Prime. Plus it was built for it anyways. People forgetting device was supposed to originally with ICS anyways.
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I bet the Asus engineers scrambling to figure out the ICS lockup issue and hundreds of Primes owners with $500 paperweights would disagree with this.
Is it possible some of those pretty things in Honeycomb were Asus additions and with them trying to rush ICS out they didn't add those things? I agree, that I thought Honeycomb felt much more refined. I don't dislike ICS though.
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I find the changes to UI in Android 4.0 as the best thing Android could have done. Native apps look sleek and modern, the sci-fi'ish/TRON coloring of UI itself is perfect for the culture it represents without being a bother for regular users.
I really, really love it.
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Yup, ditto.
Just experienced my first lockup/freeze on ICS in the car today. Was testing the IPS+ brightness boost and when I turned it on, the device became unresponsive and rebooted after a few seconds.
There had better be a firmware update quickly, or the unlocked bootloader at least.
EDIT: The camera also now has a flash issue. If you use the flash to take a picture up close to something, the flash will make the picture extremely bright instead of just illuminating the photo; honeycomb did not have this issue. Former macro shots now look like flashbangs.
The only thing that sucks in ICS versus HC, at least in my opinion, is the garbage Gallery app in ICS. In HC, the folders were alphabetically ordered, and you could toggle between viewing only photos or videos. In ICS, the folders a completely random mess that cannot be properly ordered, and the video/photos toggle is gone. This is more on Google than Asus, as the gallery is equally crappy in ICS on my Galaxy Nexus, but it's annoying nonetheless.
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The only thing that sucks in ICS versus HC, at least in my opinion, is the garbage Gallery app in ICS. In HC, the folders were alphabetically ordered, and you could toggle between viewing only photos or videos. In ICS, the folders a completely random mess that cannot be properly ordered, and the video/photos toggle is gone. This is more on Google than Asus, as the gallery is equally crappy in ICS on my Galaxy Nexus, but it's annoying nonetheless.
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Exactly. I know ICS is a great step forward, but it destroyed most of what I liked about honeycomb in the first place.
EDIT: Second lockup just occurred a little while ago while I was looking for an app on the Market. Ugh..
EDIT 2: Another lockup, literally 10 minutes after I turned my device on in the morning..went to select the camera from the lockscreen and bam. THEN, while it was rebooting, it locked up DURING THE BOOT and went back to the splash screen. This is kinda messed up.
Just had two lockups in a row within a 20 minute period. One in the music player, the other in the market (that makes two or three lockups I've had in the market alone so far).
I know everyone is having this issue but jeez..it's happening so frequently.
EDIT: Another lockup by loading up Barcode Scanner for the first time. Yes, I'm kinda using this thread as a way to keep track of my lockups, but maybe it'll help somehow.
This is my first entry into the Android tablet market and I love the Transformer Prime but are things supposed to be so unstable?
My browser crashes, flash locks up, the camera locks up, the task manager stops for no reason etc... Is it the tablet cpu, the OS or the applications? Do people with other brand tablets have the same issues?
Don't mean this to be a rant but after running Linux of the desktop for the past 8 years, I am a bit shocked at how so many things just don't work as intended.
Stability depends what version of firmware you're running. If you're not already on .15 then you may be experiencing major known issues with the tablet and stability.
Otherwise, perhaps some apps are a bit slow, which is being detected as a potential crash. Try sticking performance mode on and selecting 'Wait' when an app hangs next time. I get this with the stock browser a lot, but Chrome Beta (and other browers) are much better. There are a lot of threads here with people rooting for their favourite one.
As for the 'task manager stops' issue, I've never had this so can't comment? What exactly happens?
I wouldn't compare my tablets stability to a mature desktop platform like Linux, but I can't remember being truly frustrated with it except for the reboots on older firmware - and I use mine 5+ hours a day...
The software isnt perfect yet. There are still some issues with ICS and still some with asus adapted it. And i think there is also some room for improvement for the gpu drivers which will come from nvidia.
Everything is new with the prime. New chip, new OS... Things will only get better
Did you do a hard reset after upgrading to ICS from HC? My prime was buggy as all hell until I found someone mentioning to make sure to do a hard reset after upgrading and I tried it and made such a difference it was unbelievable. Every once in a while things crash but it was a night and day difference.
I don't know if you have to do it between patches (I didn't have to after the first hard reset) and it'd amaze me if you did have to, but it seemed to be required for the 3.x -> 4.x upgrade.
I didn't have much on the tablet so I decided on a full reset, redid my settings and added back the few apps I had put on it and everything is 100% better. Thanks for the suggestions! Maybe the HC to ICS upgrade and all the firmware updates over the past few weeks might have mucked up some stuff.
The bad thing about android is its open source and not everything is going to work as great as we hope out of the box
The awesome thing about android is its open source and nearly everything can be tweaked or "made better" by communities like this.
Stock web browser sucks. Theres lots of other web browsers on the market, many for free. give em a try see what works best for you with relation to speed, features, etc.
Stock launcher, in my opinion, is VERY laggy on the home screens. I use ADW now, no lag, works well for me. YMMV, try different launchers see what works best for you.
Do some research into task killers, there is a HUGE debate as to weather or not they help or hinder. The stock asus task killer is very laggy IMO. There are otheres out there but really i just stick to closing apps as im done with them (select the recent apps button, swipe the apps you want to close to the right of the screen to close them)
Overall this tablet has a HUGE potential however there will be some time before we see a huge amount of stuff for it development wise, we JUST got a unlock for the bootloader, Android for tablets is still pretty new, give it a little time. Good luck!
My Prime has been less than what I expect of it, the browser is really awful at times. It's useable, but that's it. It crashes far too often (both on .21 and .28) even after doing a factory reset (on both versions). Also random reboots if something unexpected happens.
I don't need to RMA my Prime for these issues because as far as I'm aware, this is normal behavior and is a software issue.
However, I can't even RMA if I wanted to. A while ago my sister pushed my tablet off my dresser, causing it to hit the corner and make a nice dent on it. So I'm going to assume that ASUS will mark my tablet as CID when I send it in. (Sister has mental health problems, for those who would ask.) If anyone is even reading this far into this, would ASUS still RMA my tablet? Or am I just screwed?
Question for the unlockers who didn't want to read all of that.
Does unlocking the Prime and installing a different ROM and using the custom build.prop and other tweaks solve all the problems that the Prime has with the browser and overall usability? Does this make it smoother and faster?
I don't know is it solves" all" the problems, but if you choose the right ROM it is very smooth and solve the browser crash problem.
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I don't know is it solves" all" the problems, but if you choose the right ROM it is very smooth and solve the browser crash problem.
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By "all" problems, I absolutely mean software related. I'm mainly concerned for the browser crashing/lagging/stuttering, since it's the most used app on my Prime. The UI in general is smooth, but sometimes it hangs from the Play Store and other background processes.
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My Prime has been less than what I expect of it, the browser is really awful at times. It's useable, but that's it. It crashes far too often (both on .21 and .28) even after doing a factory reset (on both versions). Also random reboots if something unexpected happens.
I don't need to RMA my Prime for these issues because as far as I'm aware, this is normal behavior and is a software issue.
However, I can't even RMA if I wanted to. A while ago my sister pushed my tablet off my dresser, causing it to hit the corner and make a nice dent on it. So I'm going to assume that ASUS will mark my tablet as CID when I send it in. (Sister has mental health problems, for those who would ask.) If anyone is even reading this far into this, would ASUS still RMA my tablet? Or am I just screwed?
Question for the unlockers who didn't want to read all of that.
Does unlocking the Prime and installing a different ROM and using the custom build.prop and other tweaks solve all the problems that the Prime has with the browser and overall usability? Does this make it smoother and faster?
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i think unlocking can help, but it's a risk and a very hard decision.. if you happen to unlock, i can recommend this ROM, smooth as silk...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674827
if you're rooted, search up Browser2Ram for the TF201.
It works only for stock browser, but I can guarantee that it almost 100% gives you what browsing should feel like with almost no stuttering or any force close.
99% of the problems you stated will disappear if you load the right ROM. As skarfreak stated in post 4, go with Androwook. I have tried ALL other ROMs, and is is the best all around. I actually went back to using the stock browser now. Since you cannot RMA, you might as well take it into your own hands to make your device better.
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99% of the problems you stated will disappear if you load the right ROM. As skarfreak stated in post 4, go with Androwook. I have tried ALL other ROMs, and is is the best all around. I actually went back to using the stock browser now. Since you cannot RMA, you might as well take it into your own hands to make your device better.
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Alright, thanks! Seems like the best choice to go with. It really sucks that a $650 device isn't as premium as the price tells me it should be, but neither was my phone until I installed a custom ROM.
It pains me to say this, but Android device manufacturers need to step up the quality.
Hey, so i have been a tf201 owner sinc jan but after several rma's and etc the tablet still isnt where it should be in terms of performance and stability and so i said **** the warranty since it wasnt doing **** for me anyway and unlocked the bootloader. since i am a lil late to the game, what roms are considered the cream of the crop for this device right now? i would appreciate if you could list the rom and then why you think it is the best and possibly where you think it may come short if there are any downfalls...
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Hey, so i have been a tf201 owner sinc jan but after several rma's and etc the tablet still isnt where it should be in terms of performance and stability and so i said **** the warranty since it wasnt doing **** for me anyway and unlocked the bootloader. since i am a lil late to the game, what roms are considered the cream of the crop for this device right now? i would appreciate if you could list the rom and then why you think it is the best and possibly where you think it may come short if there are any downfalls...
thanks
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I used a JB rom that worked very well, but BT audio streaming didnt work. It would pair, but not push the audio.
A full list of roms here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523719
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Hey, so i have been a tf201 owner sinc jan but after several rma's and etc the tablet still isnt where it should be in terms of performance and stability and so i said **** the warranty since it wasnt doing **** for me anyway and unlocked the bootloader. since i am a lil late to the game, what roms are considered the cream of the crop for this device right now? i would appreciate if you could list the rom and then why you think it is the best and possibly where you think it may come short if there are any downfalls...
thanks
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Seems to me that now is the time to wait a bit longer before going with a Custom Rom. The Asus 4.1 update is probably only a few weeks away and once the developers have that to work with the custom crowd will improve rapidly. So far, every time I read about a 4.1 ROM, it comes with a list of the things that are not working yet. So you will probably get a fully functional JB ROM from Asus first.
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Seems to me that now is the time to wait a bit longer before going with a Custom Rom. The Asus 4.1 update is probably only a few weeks away and once the developers have that to work with the custom crowd will improve rapidly. So far, every time I read about a 4.1 ROM, it comes with a list of the things that are not working yet. So you will probably get a fully functional JB ROM from Asus first.
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thanks for the two replies. i guess my question should have been what is the best ICS rom that is out in terms of stability and speed. i am tired of browser force closes.
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thanks for the two replies. i guess my question should have been what is the best ICS rom that is out in terms of stability and speed. i am tired of browser force closes.
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AndroWook Prime 2.1
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AndroWook Prime 2.1
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I agree even though it's discontinued. Install it with the cayenne overclock. Rubs quickly and few if any force closes.
Alternatively try the cm10 unofficial worth no cherry picks. It is unbelievably smooth and fast.
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Alternatively try the cm10 unofficial worth no cherry picks. It is unbelievably smooth and fast.
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is the cm10 unofficial uses JB already? i think i will try this ROM if androwook wont move up, so disappointing really... Thanks for the heads up..
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I agree even though it's discontinued. Install it with the cayenne overclock. Rubs quickly and few if any force closes.
Alternatively try the cm10 unofficial worth no cherry picks. It is unbelievably smooth and fast.
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Virtuous is another solid ICS choice. I think it is still in development/supported. That said, I'm currently running AW2.1, too. I'm not looking to be on the cutting edge right now, I need a daily driver. I will probably go CM10 or with a modded stock ROM after the ASUS JB update drops. I'm really looking forward to JB.
Honestly I think ICS has been a BIG part of the problem for the Prime. Its image had already been tarnished with the hardware issues but the crashes and instability are much worse from a daily use standpoint. I got mine in January too and it was much more stable for me prior to ICS, the most recent build (.28) in fact has been a complete wreck on my device (I even wiped it and reinstalled .28 to try to get it going properly) and is what prompted me to unlock. Really, the hardware has been no problem on mine. The GPS is dead, but I actually knew it probably would be going in so it is not a biggie and my WiFi and BT are really no problem, Cameras are fine, etc. But not being able to basic things like web browsing and running GMail without crashing were a deal breaker.
I still get occasional reboots/flakiness with AW2.1 but it is based on ASUS ICS. I'm really hopeful for JB, as I mentioned since they seemed to have got it righ t on the N7.
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I just finished installing CM10 preview. I have been running it on my SIII for a couple days now and really like it. I'll report back in a few days with an update about the Prime running it.
I also ran into a problem getting wifi to work on any JB based ROM, going to the advanced tab in CWM and fixing permissions seemed to clear the problem up. Thought I would pass this info along, I couldn't find anybody reporting similar issues.
Ive been running JM CM10 Preview no cheery picks and every version gets better. it is a complete daily driver if you dont need Bluetooth streaming or NTFS support.
i haven't had any browser force closes, i can actually install multiple playstore apps at once and still use the playstore with out getting "playstore is not responding do you want to wait"
its fast and clean.
since Asus pretty much uses stock AOSP roms anyways, and the CM10 JB Preview is pretty much AOSP then I would wait personally for the Asus OTA for 4.1.
you get to keep your warranty and know that JB will resolve almost all the Force close issues wit browsers etc.
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thanks for the two replies. i guess my question should have been what is the best ICS rom that is out in terms of stability and speed. i am tired of browser force closes.
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If the issue is the browser, why not just install Chrome on the stock ROM? Personally I have never really used the built in browser. I keep Dolphin around for the once in a while I need flash but otherwise use Chrome. Chrome is the default in 4.1 anyway.
Does the JB they will improve the wifi?
Increasing the signal?
Because I did not get one accessory that ASUS released.
Currently, I'm stock+root (as it seems none of the ROMs were super-solid, based on the various lengths of forums for each ROM).
I'm currently considering Infection 2.1, which looks great. I'm curious as to how fast and solid it performs, however. For instance, I have a stock Nexus 7 with JB (obviously) and it's the smoothest greatest Android device I've had to date. With JB on the Rezound, are we seeing the benefits of Project butter?
Are voice calls, SMS, battery life, 4G, bluetooth audio, GPS, etc all solid? It can be so hard to look at the first few pages of a ROM where everyone is excited, followed by 234 pages (like Infection) of people posting questions and problems. Even worse, a ROM like Infection has been out so long that it's hard to tell what issues people currently have vs what they had 2 months ago.
Im in it now and so far no problems, project butter is def noticable
Well I'm running Infection 2.1 and it's fast and very smooth. I'm running it with IHateWebOS' deluxe+ kernel OC 1.8 with noop scheduler.
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Well I'm running Infection 2.1 and it's fast and very smooth. I'm running it with IHateWebOS' deluxe+ kernel OC 1.8 with noop scheduler.
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is gaming choppy?
ive noticed most of the 10/10.1 roms are choppy on the gaming side
i would like to test but i dont see the point in flashing the newest update just to find out when i can just ask :silly:
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is gaming choppy?
ive noticed most of the 10/10.1 roms are choppy on the gaming side
i would like to test but i dont see the point in flashing the newest update just to find out when i can just ask :silly:
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When i was running Infection 2.0 it was pretty choppy, but since i switched to the latest PAC-MAN rom by shrike and it's pretty smooth. Might have been the transition to 4.2.2.
Project butter isn't enabled for us on the Rezound, from what I've gathered there's a lot of coding that needs to be done to the jelly bean base to get it to work on our device properly. The smoothness comes from all the tweaks and enhancements the Rom devs have put Into the world Roms. I can't wait to see how smooth this phone will be once project butter is actually working
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Having experienced Project Butter firsthand, I can say in no uncertain terms that this isn't Project Butter. However, the interface is quite smooth given the right CPU governor. As mentioned, games performance is where things lag. We don't have hardware accelerated video, so anything 3D or HD is going to suffer.
.... Oh well its smooth and that's what counts right? Ha
I've tried every JB rom and the infectious 2 was the best to date.. but I always go back to the desensed Neo 2 for the battery life and I prefer the camera over JB as well.
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DogzOfWar said:
Currently, I'm stock+root (as it seems none of the ROMs were super-solid, based on the various lengths of forums for each ROM).
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Not quite sure what this means...JB for the Rezound hasn't been out THAT long as it took Chad, Neo, Shrike, et al quite a long time to get things somewhat stable. So I wouldn't go by length of thread to judge a usable/stable ROM, or maybe I just misundestand.
DogzOfWar said:
I'm currently considering Infection 2.1, which looks great. I'm curious as to how fast and solid it performs, however. For instance, I have a stock Nexus 7 with JB (obviously) and it's the smoothest greatest Android device I've had to date. With JB on the Rezound, are we seeing the benefits of Project butter?
Are voice calls, SMS, battery life, 4G, bluetooth audio, GPS, etc all solid? It can be so hard to look at the first few pages of a ROM where everyone is excited, followed by 234 pages (like Infection) of people posting questions and problems. Even worse, a ROM like Infection has been out so long that it's hard to tell what issues people currently have vs what they had 2 months ago.
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The above being said, I too have a Nexus 7 and am running mlaws Dirty AOKP on it. I just left Infection rom on my Rez and it is nowhere near as smooth an experience as on the N7 (no offense Neo, I know you work hard on all your roms).
I went back to hawk's eclipticrez rom for a couple of main reasons:
1. Signal strength is better on sense roms ON MY PHONE ( I have to say it that way because others will disagree heartily, I'm sure).
2. Video is less than perfect on the JB roms for rez.
3. Battery for me seems to be better (20-30%) on hawk's rom...haven't done a real test, just have ran both over several days usually doing the same stuff and I seem to need a charge faster on Infection.
Based on what has been accomplished and what HTC has released, it is a miracle we have JB, but there are still issues with it IMO. ABSOLUTELY nothing against the devs that are pouring their heart and soul into their respective projects, my hat's off to them all!
DogzOfWar said:
Are voice calls, SMS, battery life, 4G, bluetooth audio, GPS, etc all solid? It can be so hard to look at the first few pages of a ROM where everyone is excited, followed by 234 pages (like Infection) of people posting questions and problems. Even worse, a ROM like Infection has been out so long that it's hard to tell what issues people currently have vs what they had 2 months ago.
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I think if you really took the time to read through the threads you're talking about, you'd find that there are very few major bugs that haven't been solved. I'm running Infection right now, and all the functions I use on a regular basis are working just fine; SMS, calling, 3G/4G/Wifi I can vouch for, and Wifi Tethering & GPS are working from what I've tested.
As for the threads, like I said. You really should take the time to read through everything. Infection's thread has loads of fluff and miscellaneous conversations with it, and a lot of the issues you may have seen have either been resolved or were just people who were unsure about how to do something. There are very few major stability issues, that I've experienced.
As for the overall usability and smoothness, it's very good. Shrike is right, it's certainly not Project Butter. But it isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. Underclocking and undervolting can introduce lag, but only in extreme cases. Battery life will depend on the ROM, kernel, and individual settings in question, but there are a few generalities that can be made... such as the Noop scheduler, DanceDance/Wheatley governers, etc.
Hope this helps.
Edit: I rarely use the camera for photos or videos, and I simply don't have an interest in playing a game on my phone. So I can't give any insights on those aspects, sorry.
I'm running Infection right now and this is my first step into JB for the Rezound and I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far. I'm not one to jump on the latest and greatest (hell, I was on a GB ROM 6 months ago for fear of moving to an unstable ICS), but what Neo has put together has really out-shined the competition.
With that being said, it's nowhere near perfect. All the basic things that you need a phone to do (talk, text, 3g/4g, wifi, etc) all work efficiently and effectively. However, and this could just be me, but when you're playing around within your phone, such as moving icons around while searching for things online and looking up directions in Maps, things will start "unfortunately stopping" on your phone, and Apex is almost always the first to go. On the bright side, the apps that crash immediately start working again, so it's not as detrimental as it seems.
The only time I've had an out and out failure on the phone was when I was in mid conversation the phone completely went blank. It responded to nothing. It was black screen, no lights, nothing. I had to pull the battery to reboot.
So, as it is within the modding community, everything comes with a certain amount of assumed risk. The closer you are to the bleeding edge, the more likely you are to get cut. (God, that was a terrible ending...)
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I'm running Infection right now and this is my first step into JB for the Rezound and I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far. I'm not one to jump on the latest and greatest (hell, I was on a GB ROM 6 months ago for fear of moving to an unstable ICS), but what Neo has put together has really out-shined the competition.
With that being said, it's nowhere near perfect. All the basic things that you need a phone to do (talk, text, 3g/4g, wifi, etc) all work efficiently and effectively. However, and this could just be me, but when you're playing around within your phone, such as moving icons around while searching for things online and looking up directions in Maps, things will start "unfortunately stopping" on your phone, and Apex is almost always the first to go. On the bright side, the apps that crash immediately start working again, so it's not as detrimental as it seems.
The only time I've had an out and out failure on the phone was when I was in mid conversation the phone completely went blank. It responded to nothing. It was black screen, no lights, nothing. I had to pull the battery to reboot.
So, as it is within the modding community, everything comes with a certain amount of assumed risk. The closer you are to the bleeding edge, the more likely you are to get cut. (God, that was a terrible ending...)
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Thanks everyone in this thread for the thoughtful, detailed responses. Personally I've learned a lot more here than reading through some of the ROM threads.
As a conclusion, I'm going to avoid the JB roms. I do waste a lot of my life playing games and watching video, so it sounds like it's best to avoid the JB ROMs. Plus this is my phone for work, and I take lots of annoying pictures of my kids. Sounds like the JB roms aren't quite stable enough in that regards.
What do people think about the non-JB/Cyanogen/AOKP ROMs? I guess those are optimized versions of base HTC ROMs? Do those perform better?
Again, thanks to everyone for their responses.
tell me a jb rom that has video working properly(tearing) and the camcorder working and im all over it. as having a 3yr old i need both.
DogzOfWar said:
Thanks everyone in this thread for the thoughtful, detailed responses. Personally I've learned a lot more here than reading through some of the ROM threads.
As a conclusion, I'm going to avoid the JB roms. I do waste a lot of my life playing games and watching video, so it sounds like it's best to avoid the JB ROMs. Plus this is my phone for work, and I take lots of annoying pictures of my kids. Sounds like the JB roms aren't quite stable enough in that regards.
What do people think about the non-JB/Cyanogen/AOKP ROMs? I guess those are optimized versions of base HTC ROMs? Do those perform better?
Again, thanks to everyone for their responses.
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ICS AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs work well save for BT audio. Sense ROMs are still better tho...
I haven't seen this mention much, but how is the battery life vs Sense 3.6/4 roms?
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ICS AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs work well save for BT audio. Sense ROMs are still better tho...
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BT audio should be fine on the latest ones. Granted, I haven't listened to music on them for more than a test, but calling and A2DP both work on 4.2.2.
How is the performance of google now? And again is battery life better than sense roms?
DogzOfWar said:
Thanks everyone in this thread for the thoughtful, detailed responses. Personally I've learned a lot more here than reading through some of the ROM threads.
As a conclusion, I'm going to avoid the JB roms. I do waste a lot of my life playing games and watching video, so it sounds like it's best to avoid the JB ROMs. Plus this is my phone for work, and I take lots of annoying pictures of my kids. Sounds like the JB roms aren't quite stable enough in that regards.
What do people think about the non-JB/Cyanogen/AOKP ROMs? I guess those are optimized versions of base HTC ROMs? Do those perform better?
Again, thanks to everyone for their responses.
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If you don't want to go to jellybean yet (personally, I find the expanded notifications a killer feature since it previews email subjects and even opening lines)
Then try the simplistic rom by neo. It's an unbloated version of the stock global, sense 3.6 OTA rom and will at least be a little less memory hogging than the stock rom.
If you don't need Bluetooth calling, neo's rage 1.9.5 gets you a very stable, fast version of ICS (with no sense bloat), no video tearing and working camcorder.
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