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Hi!
I'm planning on buying a Chinese copy of HD2. I'm not concerned that it's 100% fake and build quality is not on par with real HTC, cause I really need the dual SIM functionality.
My questions are:
1. can it be SID-unlocked (does it have to be?)
2. will any of the custom WWE ROMs install and run on it?
3. will both SIMs be visible in any custom ROM or do I have to install a specific ROM which supports dual SIM dual standby functionality?
Whoever got to play with these Chinese phones, please let me know!
Thank you!
im pretty sure that it wont even rom stock windows mobile 6.5 i think there will be stock chinese software wich isnt even a smartphone
@ dim4x4
the Oboe Phone is a dual SIM with WM6.5, if u get ur Clone Phone and u can get the ROM dumped, edited and reflashed. i beleive u will be able to make a custom ROM.
WBR
Siemens Lover
there r chinese clones out there with windows mobile 6.5 running but most of the clones i've seen are not even smartphones... they r running chiinese software made to look like winmo. and some runs a chinese special system derived/modified from the latest windows CE builds.
oh ya and definately you cant use any of the roms designed for real HD2 coz the hardware and bios design was diff.
Just grab a (HTC) HD2 and another cheap phone from Ebay if You really need to use 2 sim cards . Thats what I did. You can buy a small handy SE W880i for like 15 pounds in uk and it also supports 3G network. Dont buy a China copy or You will get stuck with a crap phone that can easly develop a fault. Its not worth Your money.
dim4x4 said:
Hi!
I'm planning on buying a Chinese copy of HD2. I'm not concerned that it's 100% fake and build quality is not on par with real HTC, cause I really need the dual SIM functionality.
My questions are:
1. can it be SID-unlocked (does it have to be?)
2. will any of the custom WWE ROMs install and run on it?
3. will both SIMs be visible in any custom ROM or do I have to install a specific ROM which supports dual SIM dual standby functionality?
Whoever got to play with these Chinese phones, please let me know!
Thank you!
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1. Yes , it can but there´s no need for
2. Google for it. If you detect a custom ROM for that special device you might test it. I suppose there isn´t. And never, never try to flash a ROM for another device. It would certainly brick your phone
3. It depends on your luck to find a ROM for that special device. Otherwise see 2.
Thanks for the advice, guys! Will let you know how it goes.
Hi Dim,
I bought one of these chinese phones... for my chinese wife (because these chinese phones look so cool)
First it's plastic in bad quality! you will get scratches by your fingernails!
Second, the audio quality for talking on caller and receipient side were worse. The speakers are in bad quality: mp3 bad, talking bad, listening bad.
Third, signal strength must be high to work. Often you lose your signal and can't call anyone.
All in one, i can say, that you waste your money. Mine looks like a iPhone 4, but thats all you have on pro's side. On con's side the three points i wrote above.
I bought a new mobile, galaxy from Samsung, and my wife is healed from thinking that the chinese mobiles could be better in any aspect.
Hope this will stop you from buying this crap!
hi
most of people who reply on you,they dont know anything at all about smart chinese phone
and about flashing rom to chinese smart phones will require differant software depends on cpu, because chinese usally use hisillicon cpu or MTK cpu,so when you decide to buy just ask for condation that they send you software and rom.and have fun with cheap and great quilty,and if you decide to buy some model you can ask here for advice
Hi,
With me the same. Still the proud owner of a HTC Universal. I need a "Dual SIM Standby" and came across this chinese vendor. Here are the specs:
-Dual sim card dual standy
-CPU: Huawei Hisilicon K3533, 533MHz,could updated to 600MHz;
-2G ROM+2G bits RAM;
-Windows mobile system 6.5 and Android 2.2(Optional)
-GSM EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
-Support TF card up to 16GB;
-5.0M pixels wtih double cameras;
-WLAN/WI-FI 802.11b/g; *GPS Navigation;
-Support G-Sensor function;
-Support Microsoft Office word/excel/powerpoint etc and email;
-Support IM:MSN,SKYPE,facebook,twitter,OICQ,QQ etc;
-4.3inch WQVGA Touch screen,65,000colors,400x800 pixels;
-Connection:Bluetooth 2.0,WI-FI,EDGE,Active Sync and USB2.0;
-JAVA 2.0, GPRS class 10 and WAP2.0;
-Video Format:3GP,MP4,AVI,ASF,WMV,RM ect;
-Music Format:MP3,WMA,WAV,AMR,ect;
-Photo Format:Jpg,gif,png,BMP,Flash ect;
-Ringtone Format:MP3,WMA,AMR and WAV;
-2PCS Lithium-ion rechargeable Batteries:1650mAh/3.7V;
-Dimensions: 107x51x13mm, 128g weight
So, indeed the CPU is not a 1 GHz Snapdragon™-prosessor, but 533 Mhz Hisilicon. But look at the 2G ROM and 2 Gb RAM! Wonder if this is for compensating on the lower CPU?
But here is the thing. I am not a real "Flasher". I basically kept my Universal as-is, and installed a shell on top to have a new look. I started playing around with new ROMs just to improve the available memory on ROM and RAM.
The question is in this case if most of my WM5 apps will work on this Chinese phone? Second question is then, like "@latersooner" says, who on XDA can assist in flashing Chinese ROMs?
Maybe a suggestion could be to have a seperate entry on the forum list "Chinese clones" or something? Just an idea. I see that they are ahead of the competition in Europe, releasing both dual, 3 and 4 SIM phones, both Windows, Android and other (Symbian?).
dim4x4 said:
Hi!
I'm planning on buying a Chinese copy of HD2. I'm not concerned that it's 100% fake and build quality is not on par with real HTC, cause I really need the dual SIM functionality.
My questions are:
1. can it be SID-unlocked (does it have to be?)
2. will any of the custom WWE ROMs install and run on it?
3. will both SIMs be visible in any custom ROM or do I have to install a specific ROM which supports dual SIM dual standby functionality?
Whoever got to play with these Chinese phones, please let me know!
Thank you!
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Hi,
See this http://www.eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=21207&st=0&
latersooner said:
hi
most of people who reply on you,they dont know anything at all about smart chinese phone
and about flashing rom to chinese smart phones will require differant software depends on cpu, because chinese usally use hisillicon cpu or MTK cpu,so when you decide to buy just ask for condation that they send you software and rom.and have fun with cheap and great quilty,and if you decide to buy some model you can ask here for advice
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Absolutely agree. Do your research first guys! There are some very interesting Chinese smartphones out there. If you're only looking for cheap imitation, yes, you're bound to be disappointed.
Having said that, China manufacturers are now starting to make dual sim Android smartphones with excellent specs. Only thing missing is 3G. Must say, I don't really miss it. 2G is fine for social media updates and email. Only for heavy surfing you need 3G.
I'm very pleased with the Flying Star FG8 I bought recently
I have a lot of information on chinese models star A2000, A1000, A5000 and will be making a thread shortly covering everything I know including rooting, fixes, roms and recovery.
i agree , this phone have bad speker and bad accesories
-.- so you need to buy acc agan
Chinese not-fake phones
I live in Africa. There's a brand that is very widespread here called TECNO - Chinese. Several of their phones run Android, the later models being the N3 and N7.
I bought an N3 out of curiosity - at $94 it did not seem to be a big risk. It supports 2 SIMs, one 3g, and the other vanilla. Seems to work OK as an Android phone (Gingerbread). My only real criticism is the camera, which tends to produce purple pictures in bright lighting.
It seems quite well made. I have been able to root it, and can get to it normally via ADB and Fastboot. I've written a few small applications and everything seems to work as expected. However, I have not been able to find a CWM recovery for it that works, and so far have not seen a ROM that claims to support 2 SIMS.
A single SIM phone is a liability here in Tanzania. There's one operator - Airtel - who can do 3G at a reasonable price, but their calls are expensive. The others are GSM, but what everyone you know uses for normal telephony.
So even if I could find a CWM recovery, and flash CyanogenMod, I'd be robbing myself. Why is the rest of the world stuck on this single SIM thing?
britseye said:
I live in Africa. There's a brand that is very widespread here called TECNO - Chinese. Several of their phones run Android, the later models being the N3 and N7.
I bought an N3 out of curiosity - at $94 it did not seem to be a big risk. It supports 2 SIMs, one 3g, and the other vanilla. Seems to work OK as an Android phone (Gingerbread). My only real criticism is the camera, which tends to produce purple pictures in bright lighting.
It seems quite well made. I have been able to root it, and can get to it normally via ADB and Fastboot. I've written a few small applications and everything seems to work as expected. However, I have not been able to find a CWM recovery for it that works, and so far have not seen a ROM that claims to support 2 SIMS.
A single SIM phone is a liability here in Tanzania. There's one operator - Airtel - who can do 3G at a reasonable price, but their calls are expensive. The others are GSM, but what everyone you know uses for normal telephony.
So even if I could find a CWM recovery, and flash CyanogenMod, I'd be robbing myself. Why is the rest of the world stuck on this single SIM thing?
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Pole are working on it just be patient
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So Samsung Canada has officially announced that all the Canadian versions are going to be just like the Japanese one with the Snapdragon CPU for LTE support and 2GBs of ram, at a glance it appears that everything else under the hood should be the same more or less (obviously dont know for sure but just guessing) so What Im wondering is will the firmwares be the same for these 2GB varients or will there be enough differences that the modding and development area of the S III will differ to the point that anything made for the GT-I9300 wont work on these models?
Naturally the assumed answer would be no, such as the custom SGS2's that have 4 touch buttons and no home key compared to the international model, however all S III's appear to all be the same layout of 2 touch 1 home and same phone design ect, just different CPU and amount of ram inside the phone.
+1 for this question, this will make if I buy or not the phone
The amount of memory is the least of your concerns.
The device is using a completely different chipset, it uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4, so no, firmware/roms made for the GT-i9300 will not work on the version you're getting, not even the HSPA+ one.
But i'm sure there will still be a lot of support for doing custom roms on your versions as well
This has always been the case... anything for the "I " will have to be ported to work on north American variants... there will be different modems/kernels ...international will get updates first and certain things will be pulled to build roms for us.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA
Both of them are based on different soc. international version is using the exynos chipset
and the lte version is using the qualcom chipset. so the roms would be totally different
What I think he's asking is whether or not the Canadian and Japanese (for example) versions will be firmware-compatible, as they both will get the alternate SoC and memory, not the international version...
It's a question without an answer. All we can do is guess, and not educated ones. We'll have to wait and see.
Chainfire said:
What I think he's asking is whether or not the Canadian and Japanese (for example) versions will be firmware-compatible, as they both will get the alternate SoC and memory, not the international version...
It's a question without an answer. All we can do is guess, and not educated ones. We'll have to wait and see.
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Actually its both, I guess I should of worded this better with more details lol.
But my main thoughts were dev work on the international GT-I9300 and mods/addons etc working on the LTE 2GB varient (since at a glance it looks like they are the same phones but with different CPU/Ram), also as well Japanese/Canada/USA versions working together since it looks like all 3 countrys are getting the same model phones with the same hardware (different model numbers though because of branding purposes but same hardware inside the phone).
Im not looking for custom roms though my main thoughts are small addons that you generally see in the themes and apps section and the huge following that you see with the S II and constant checking and usage with new firmwares for the shake of improving everyones device, and most important of all CF-Root for the device. My concern is that most of the dev's will be putting the work and effort into the international model and not the other ones so I will be SOL unless I get the international model (which is why the question in the first place), but heres the other thing that bothers me with that...
It feels like its not worth the upgrade (hardware wise), everything is the same except 200MHz faster CPU with a couple extra cores that most apps probably wont take advantage of for some time to come, and a 720p HD screen which is nice but not really necessary. The S III feels more like a software upgrade rather then a hardware one (amazing software and improvements Samsung has done for the device over the S II for sure), but to me it feels like its not worth it unless your getting all the hardware improved upon aswell, like were just re-buying our S II's because its "shinier" with new and improved software lol.
Doesn't anyone else feel that the S III should of been not only a CPU upgrade but double the ram, improved MP's on the front and back camera's etc etc?
So with all that in mind atleast for me it feels like if im to get the upgrade it should actually be a nice upgrade (hardware wise) you know what I mean?
Well, our opinions appear to differ a lot on the subject, but I have no interest on elaborating on them yet again.
However, for rooting, for the SGS3 something like CF-Root is not needed due to the separate kernel and recovery partitions. You flash a modified recovery (once) then root through that.
Future firmwares can then be flashed with Mobile ODIN (which can root during flash), or (again) through the recovery, if you didn't overwrite it.
Chainfire said:
Well, our opinions appear to differ a lot on the subject, but I have no interest on elaborating on them yet again.
However, for rooting, for the SGS3 something like CF-Root is not needed due to the separate kernel and recovery partitions. You flash a modified recovery (once) then root through that.
Future firmwares can then be flashed with Mobile ODIN (which can root during flash), or (again) through the recovery, if you didn't overwrite it.
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Ah yes i see, i thought he meant compared to the International GT-I9300 model
Sorry to the OP, i haven't a clue about that.
FISKER_Q said:
Ah yes i see, i thought he meant compared to the International GT-I9300 model
Sorry to the OP, i haven't a clue about that.
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No I ment both. Compared to the international model and as well between the same alternate ones that are the same.
Pretty much don't want to get the 2GB ram model if most of the development is only for the international model, however getting the normal one over my S II feels like I'm practically getting a small upgrade if the ram isn't getting doubled among other things.
Sent from my GT-I9100M using XDA
I've noticed talk of different SGS3's in certain countries, sorry if this sounds a bit of a stupid question but I'm confused.
What are the differences between these devices, and why are there differences? Why not just ship the exact same handset worldwide?
Thanks
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 using XDA Premium
Except for north America they are just different firmware. Hardware is the same.
The reason is different languages, modems and in some cases locked to a certain carrier or with carrier branded firmware.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
The reason I'm confused is because I've noticed some people saying they bricked their phone because they accidentally followed the root instructions for the international version (something like that anyway).
Also I'm sure I read somewhere that the international SGS3 has a different (better?) processor. Is this true?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 using XDA Premium
The International version Uses - Quad Core &1GB RAM
The American version Uses - Dual Core & 2GB RAM - Due to LTE being a battery hog - LTE is super fast internet
The Korean Version Uses - Quad Core & 2GB RAM - Don't know why they got that maybe because its Samsung's home town - Brown Nose
Anyway there all the same on the outside. That's all i can tell you but I'm sure somebody else will fill you in
My name is Optimus Prime and I send this message..
Hardware is different - as already stated - so drivers from the international I9300 won't work on those and hence "brick" it.
Firmware / ROM / OS / whateveryoucallit differs a lot on those models too, down to the partition layout. It's a nightmare what Sammy did there this time.
HellcatDroid said:
Hardware is different - as already stated - so drivers from the international I9300 won't work on those and hence "brick" it.
Firmware / ROM / OS / whateveryoucallit differs a lot on those models too, down to the partition layout. It's a nightmare what Sammy did there this time.
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So, no hope for anything resembling, hellraised rom or at least framework for these, right?
Sent from my SGH-I747M
NA SGS3's use the qcom S4 over the exynos quad, thus roms and kernels will not work across them, and flashing an international rom on a NA phone will brick it.
There is no foreseeable way to simply and easily port roms across (aka nothing as easy as hellraising).
Hi, I have a Galaxy Tablet 10.1 and just purchased another tablet which is a Kobo arc 64GB. I am unsure of which tablet to keep and I am hoping for some advice. The Kobo is 1.5 ghz so it is technically faster and has a newer android OS and I purchased for $139.99, but it is a 7" compared to my 10.1 which I like bigger a little better but not so much as to make my decision. I read that galaxy tab can be rooted and updated but I haven't got into that yet. The galaxy also has better camera and more functions gps, Bluetooth, etc. both are wifi only. I am really unsure which one to keep. I paid 399.99 for my galaxy like 1 1/2 yr ago. Can anyone help make my decision a little easier? I am very torn on which one to keep and so much info on internet about different tablets it makes it hard to find any answers.
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Hi, I have a Galaxy Tablet 10.1 and just purchased another tablet which is a Kobo arc 64GB. I am unsure of which tablet to keep and I am hoping for some advice. The Kobo is 1.5 ghz so it is technically faster and has a newer android OS and I purchased for $139.99, but it is a 7" compared to my 10.1 which I like bigger a little better but not so much as to make my decision. I read that galaxy tab can be rooted and updated but I haven't got into that yet. The galaxy also has better camera and more functions gps, Bluetooth, etc. both are wifi only. I am really unsure which one to keep. I paid 399.99 for my galaxy like 1 1/2 yr ago. Can anyone help make my decision a little easier? I am very torn on which one to keep and so much info on internet about different tablets it makes it hard to find any answers.
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Install CyanogenMod Rom (JB 4.2.2) on your galaxy tab, overclock it to 1,5GHz, and ask yourself same question again...
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jaswinky said:
Install CyanogenMod Rom (JB 4.2.2) on your galaxy tab, overclock it to 1,5GHz, and ask yourself same question again...
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Thanks, this is pretty much what I was wondering. I will try it and see how I like. Now just figuring out how to do it lol, well this site seems like a great place to start..kudos
Edit: I managed to root my tablet I think, it's a lot harder process now then it should be trying to find everything to work. I found lots of dead links to places where I could DL the recovery files and Odin and such. I managed after a few tries to get CWM working I am using version 6.0.3.6 right now. First I tried ver 4.0.0.4 and when from a package install from the tutorial on this site but I was getting the scrolling effect in CWM that a lot of people experienced where it keeps scrolling the screen so fast it's barely readable. So then I tried a ver. 5.5.0.4 (I think) apparently one you need to use certain roms, but I had the same effect with this one. So then with the suggestion of another thread on here I downloaded 'bootloader_4.0.4.tar.md5' and the version of CWM I have installed now. It's seems to work alright no more scrolling effect and I have the superuser app, I did a backup without problems, although when I first told it to reboot it came up with the message 'Root access possibly lost, Fix?' I selected yes and apparently it fixed because this message does not come up anymore. So I made it this far. Now the fun begins lol.
I'm on 4.3 Jelly bean cyanogen now lovin it, only prob it just booted like 3 times before actually booted up properly, thought I was stuck in a boot loop for a minute. Worked though. Kobo is as good as sold.
yet I'm not sure where I can find the best rom!
currently I got a unlocked i9300 running a stock i9300XXEMD2 rom on 4.1.2 with a UK "3.co" on the power up and shutdown on the device
thing is I really like the look of this older sammy stock rom! I don't want to flash to those strange newer "white" verisons. I enjoy the look of the black and using old youtube and maps
yet I know there are better custom roms the clear the bloat. I'm looking for one that retains the look and feel of the galaxy s3 when it came out but is more uptodate, has a callrecorder built into secphone (when I install its not working) and overall improves ram use/user preformence, battery etc.
can someone point me in a good direction? there is so much available and hard to sort thru
Neat ROM is probably your best bet. Remember not Neat ROM AOSP. Its the one that its download size is about 1GB.
It is based on the latest stock ROM for S3 which is Android 4.3 and has new features integrated into the ROM (Quad multiwindow , smart features etc from newer Galaxy S series).
It also has the old Black theme similar to your ROM
Neat Rom looks interesting. Why is there an "ASOP" version? What's the difference?
Any others?
If your device is sim locked you may want to unlock it before you mess with it.
In 2 years i found stock 4.3 to be the best rom for this device.
device is unlocked and rooted.
strange how I bought it used... it was on stock UK rom... but its been flashed and rooted before.... rooting it didn't take very long... it was easy...
I have root access and its nice, but i'm looking for something that easier on the battery,cleaner bloat removed and has excellent features... but doesn't stray far from that fine stock look of an s3!
My personal best is archidroid rom, speed & stability all the way. Stock rom was slow and buggy. It took me about 2 whole minutes from unlocking to sending msg. You shld give it a try. I flashed it on 7 diff devices. Its asop, it isnt wht you are looking but certanly the worth a look
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yeah... neatrom was too slow and heavy use of ram
is their another "galaxy s3" looking like rom thats newer?
supertac said:
yeah... neatrom was too slow and heavy use of ram
is their another "galaxy s3" looking like rom thats newer?
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Rooted. Stock 4.3. Honestly its the best rom. If you want really good battery then don't root it. Don't even debloat it, dont change the kernel. Just disable facebook app and it'll serve you well.
Xposed is a big battery killer.
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...I don't use facebook app and rooting a phone serves me far more.
Maybe its lack of ram 9300 has?
supertac said:
...I don't use facebook app and rooting a phone serves me far more.
Maybe its lack of ram 9300 has?
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Stay with stock 4.3 and remove unwanted bloat, don't use mods, its the source of bugs and instability.
If you want Kitkat then go with back-to-n00t, same thing with 4.3 but it was ported from the Korean LTE version, very stable and smooth, everything works fine too, because the rom includes all the Samsung blobs
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I hate the Facebook app...
I just use Facebook via the Firefox (beta) browser app and I can do just as much if not more on Facebook via the browser than the app.
Just my opinion...
I use mobile myself...
Great but now they're pushing messenger use on.mobile.
Anyone have a fix for this?