Missing applications when switching from rom to rom - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Everytime i switch roms all my app icons are deleted while all the app's data and folders on my internal sd card are intact... The only way i know to get my icons back is reinstalling every single app i had before which is truly annoying. Anyone knows how to keep all apps when switching roms ?
Thanks.
PD: Avoid the use of titanium backup, its stated not to use on almost every JB rom.

Poroto said:
Everytime i switch roms all my app icons are deleted while all the app's data and folders on my internal sd card are intact... The only way i know to get my icons back is reinstalling every single app i had before which is truly annoying. Anyone knows how to keep all apps when switching roms ?
Thanks.
PD: Avoid the use of titanium backup, its stated not to use on almost every JB rom.
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You switch for new versions of a ROM or switching for one ROM to other ROM ?
I believe the best option for recover your applications is the Titanium.
I believe you had this problem because the /data folder is different for Rom to Rom.

cybernetus said:
You switch for new versions of a ROM or switching for one ROM to other ROM ?
I believe the best option for recover your applications is the Titanium.
I believe you had this problem because the /data folder is different for Rom to Rom.
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Na, i have no issues updating a rom, thing is when i change to another rom.
no other way to fix it without titanium? cm10 (which im currently on) clearly states not to use titanium backup

What? If you change ROMs, you generally have to do a full wipe. That means losing apps. Titanium Backup is one of the only ways to backup/restore data for user apps, or other apps that are similar.

did you switch from an ICS Rom to a JB Rom ? you cant migrate ICS apps to JB Roms - it simply doesn´t work
and you can use "MyBackup" to backup and restore apps ...
Both apps work very fine, but i think titanium is still better

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how to switch seamless between roms

I like to try different roms, but the problem is i always need to insall all my aps en settings. What is THE BEST way to have all my aps i previously had instantly when i install a new rom?
make a nandroid backup before you install a new rom, and restore it when you're done. though i had issues with the apps stored in the ext partition of my sdcard. i'd like to see the ext partition being saved and restored with dd, but for now nandroid does it via tar. usually works, but not always, at least for me. had to wipe just yesterday for this exact reason.
kendong2 said:
make a nandroid backup before you install a new rom, and restore it when you're done. though i had issues with the apps stored in the ext partition of my sdcard. i'd like to see the ext partition being saved and restored with dd, but for now nandroid does it via tar. usually works, but not always, at least for me. had to wipe just yesterday for this exact reason.
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I do this, but i actually want to use my aps on multiple roms. A nandroid backup restores the rom completely, thats not what i want.
Dave Hagenaars said:
I like to try different roms, but the problem is i always need to insall all my aps en settings. What is THE BEST way to have all my aps i previously had instantly when i install a new rom?
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You can't! Even if you don't wipe, the APN list is going to be part of the ROM, so will replace any APN list you may have had on your device beforehand.
The best you can probably do is backup your APN list via an application like this, and then install the application again after you've installed a new ROM (assuming you've wiped) to restore the APN list back again.
Regards,
Dave
apn list is not a thing i care about, i know the settings. It's a lot less work than reinstalling 30 aps
if you are using apps2sd then don't backup/restore the ext partition. apps will be kept this way, but not the market db. so if you install an app through the market in the first rom it will be installed in the other rom, but not in the other market.
i don't think there is a way to share the settings. you could theoretically move /data to the ext partition aswell, but it will break at least if you switch between 1.5 and 2.1 roms...
Dave Hagenaars said:
apn list is not a thing i care about, i know the settings. It's a lot less work than reinstalling 30 aps
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Sorry - when you said "aps en settings" I presumed you meant your APNs rather than your applications.
Titanium Backup is what you need.
Regards,
Dave
AppManager works well too, although it wont back up protected apps. I just redownload them from Market instead.
Then I use AppsInstaller to reinstall everything. Can be time consuming with 90+ apps but it's better than having to download them all again.
I haven't wiped since I got Titanium so that might work better.
Also, if you look in the Themes and Software section I think there's a PC program that will let you back-up and restore your apps.

Titanium Backup - why not restore data?

I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
restoring the data for the user apps is fine, don't restore the system data...
Wond3r said:
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
Wond3r said:
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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It is advised to do full wipe, if you install a rom.
And if you want to keep your settings, games scores etc, you use Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup is your friend in those cases..
What is not adviced, is installing a Rom, without wiping your data.. In that way, you keep for example data of apps and games, of a froyo rom, to a gingerbread rom..
Rom to Rom differs(even in same android version), thats why you full wipe, and then TiBu saves you by restoring them, to the new rom's enviroment..
Edit: Agree with others.. I was typing on atrix, and since i wrote this, they already answered!
Also in atrix, NEVER restore FINGERPRINTS backup..
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Pirateghost said:
that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
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That explains it. Ive seen MANY posts where users tell other users to restore apps but not restore data but dont specify they mean system data and not app data!
Also, when people talk of a full wipe, do they mean even deleting the contents of the internal storage (like photos and such?)
This would be for going from one ROM to another ROM, both GB
No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
morepower71 said:
No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
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Thanks ! I always feared that the wipe data/factory reset pretty much deletes all the files on your device like photos and music
The short answer is force closes. Which also can happen from restoring app data, altho it is less likely to happen, it can and it will. But yea def dont restore system data.
Is there any other way of saving game saves?
Wond3r said:
Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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You can use SyncIt or GameOn, you can even back it up manualy with Root Explorer. You should be fine with TiBU, just if you do get a force close you will know why and what to do (delete data and/or uninstall/reinstall).
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
JonnyCazoid said:
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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Looks like that was the the problem. I saved my backup on drop box so i just dropped what was on dropbox in my titanium folder and restored it. I now have all of my app data back.

Get ready for ICS update and not lose any user data

Im concerned about the upcoming update: Im using MIUI rom and i will swap to MIUI v4 (iCS) as soon as it comes out... but im tired of losing my user data between every rom swap...
I know Titanium Backup should be the way to do this... so, is it safe to backup all the apps and the apps' data and then restore it on ICS? even when the backup was made in a GB rom?
Any alternative way of doing so? What do you usually do / recommend to do?
Thanks!
You can back up and restore the apps no problem, though I would be careful restoring user data. What I do is restore all apps and use sms backup/restore for my texts and Google takes care of my contacts.
GFXi0N said:
Im concerned about the upcoming update: Im using MIUI rom and i will swap to MIUI v4 (iCS) as soon as it comes out... but im tired of losing my user data between every rom swap...
I know Titanium Backup should be the way to do this... so, is it safe to backup all the apps and the apps' data and then restore it on ICS? even when the backup was made in a GB rom?
Any alternative way of doing so? What do you usually do / recommend to do?
Thanks!
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Well, I don't really think it should matter if the backup was done in GB and restored in ICS. One thing could happen, is that you may have been using an application that isn't yet compatible with ICS. Other than that, I don't really see why there should be a problem.
Have a good day.
The biggest problem is for the apps settings and games progress and so... with titanium backup, i should backup user apps + data and then restore it in ICS?
GFXi0N said:
The biggest problem is for the apps settings and games progress and so... with titanium backup, i should backup user apps + data and then restore it in ICS?
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To be a 100% sure put the TB folder on your pc and on an external card.
I tried restoring TiBu apps backed up on GB when I flashed an LPQ ROM and TiBu hanged on some of the restores. I had to restart each time it hung on a restore. I tried using batch restore, and restoring individually, both ways it happened on different apps and the same app. It was weird because my SMS logs restored no problem but some of my apps could not. Luckily I had a Nandroid backup so I quickly went back to my daily driver.
Titanium backup likes a phone reboot after first install .
Install open reboot phone less likely to freeze or hang on backup .
jje
i also had over 200 applications, out of which some randomly failed to install on CM9. After failure of restore, i again have to start restoring process in titanium backup from start leaving that applicatoin. Luckily, I dint find any problem in restoring to PURE ICS rom, it just resotred everything like a charm. Some applicatoin (like smartstats) were crashing after restore. I just wiped the data () and then it worked.

CWM Restore between two different ROMS

Does CWM have the capacity to run a restore from a Stock ROM while the ROM in action is Dorian RED PILL? Or would that cause infintely bad issues?
If not possible, I am interested in attempting to develop something that could allow this to take place!
dawgfan12344 said:
Does CWM have the capacity to run a restore from a Stock ROM while the ROM in action is Dorian RED PILL? Or would that cause infintely bad issues?
If not possible, I am interested in attempting to develop something that could allow this to take place!
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What do you want to restore, the previous ROM or apps and data?
premsrj said:
What do you want to restore, the previous ROM or apps and data?
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I was wanting to restore apps/data. I didn't back up my texts before I switched ROMS so I wanted to go back, back up texts then come back to R.P.
Restoring data would only work ok if the roms are very similar: same custom or stock rom base which contains almost the same apps and version. But, restoring stock data to a custom rom will most likely just give you a bootloop.
Titanium backup already has an option to selectively restore apps and data from a nandroid backup, though it doesn't fully work when changing android versions (gb to ics).
It would be great if you could make an alternative to selectively restore apps and/or data from nandroid backups using a UI.
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Restoring data would only work ok if the roms are very similar: same custom or stock rom base which contains almost the same apps and version. But, restoring stock data to a custom rom will most likely just give you a bootloop.
Titanium backup already has an option to selectively restore apps and data from a nandroid backup, though it doesn't fully work when changing android versions (gb to ics).
It would be great if you could make an alternative to selectively restore apps and/or data from nandroid backups using a UI.
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ARGH...that's what I was thinking. I'll start looking into an alternative and see what I can come up with.

[Q] backing up with twrp saves app and app data?

ok here is my situation. im stuck with hughesnet and have a data plan of 10gb. i want to change my rom and want to backup all my apps and app data (ABOUT 6 GB) so i wont have to download anything once i get a new rom installed. if i backup the data option in twrp recovery will that keep my app apk's and their data? and once i change my rom and restore the data backup, will that mess up the rom?
Or should i use something else like titanium backup?
doing either way will work. The only thing you will really run into is if going from one rom to a diffreent rom and ty to replace the system apps.
It backups the whole system and data partition into separate files ...so as long as you are moving from same rom type to another like sense to sense or aosp to aosp ... Just flash new rom then restore only the data partition and you are good to go
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doing either way will work. The only thing you will really run into is if going from one rom to a diffreent rom and ty to replace the system apps.
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thanks for the info, i used titanium and backed up the user apps which also included the user app data, i dont need the system apps

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