There are now several mobile browsers out there that do an excellent job of bringing the full desktop web browsing experience to mobile platforms. Yet for all their polish, there's one thing you still simply can not do on any mobile browser I'm aware of, and that's work with a drag/drop interface on a web page.
Now I get that there's a conflict between touch screen scrolling and drag/drop, but does that mean we should have no access to drag/drop at all? You'd think at least one browser dev by now would have thought to include a toggleable option to temporarily lock scrolling to allow the mousedown/mousemove/mouseup events to fire on the underlying web app. Or if they wanted to get creative, they could probably come up with a multitouch gesture to support drag/drop.
Is there something I'm missing that makes this a lot harder than I think? You'd think it would be a great selling point for any of the mobile browser's to say, "look what our software can do that can't be done on any other mobile browser!"
I thought about this too, It seems as simple as just a gesture to say, circle what you want and then drag and drop. I don't think it is that simple though, suppose we are missing something.
Did ya'll ever figure out any solution? I know on facebook you can't rearrange photos in an album using the mobile app or even the mobile webview. You'd have to be using a desktop so that you can drag photos around and drop them into the order that you want. Desktop view works well enough on modern Android devices but without drag/drop I still have to go to an actual pc in order to arrange photos which is an annoyance of course. Also, there's obviously other scenarios throughout the web where this would be helpful as well. I don't mouse connected to my Android device but I'm wondering if I should get one, maybe bluetooth, just so that I can experiment with it to see if it's actual normal pc operation that would allow left and right click behavior.
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Did ya'll ever figure out any solution? I know on facebook you can't rearrange photos in an album using the mobile app or even the mobile webview. You'd have to be using a desktop so that you can drag photos around and drop them into the order that you want. Desktop view works well enough on modern Android devices but without drag/drop I still have to go to an actual pc in order to arrange photos which is an annoyance of course. Also, there's obviously other scenarios throughout the web where this would be helpful as well. I don't mouse connected to my Android device but I'm wondering if I should get one, maybe bluetooth, just so that I can experiment with it to see if it's actual normal pc operation that would allow left and right click behavior.
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I am with you guys. Drag and drop will make android complete, and possibly, superior to everything else.
I used a keyboard and mouse with my HTC one s, trying to see if it made a difference, but, still no drag and drop within multiple web browsers.
There has to be a way to accoplish this within android web browsing.
Good news! The guys at chromium (google chrome developers) are working on this very issue! It shouldn't be long until we all can enjoy the drag and drop in android browser! Hopefully....
Puffin Browser
Puffin Browser by CloudMosa features Mouse Simulation (Virtual Trackpad).
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Puffin Browser by CloudMosa features Mouse Simulation (Virtual Trackpad).
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I tried this, but it is absolutely crap. It seems it uses a proxy and possibly monitors all your data traffic.
But why is there NO DECENT browser after FOUR YEARS of Android supporting dragging ???
Indeed just a simple gesture to start dragging. From then swiping over the screen is interpreted as mouse drag events until, e.g. the same gesture is played again. Soooo simple,
Opera
Works in Opera Mobile Classic Version : 12.1.6
I know this is a little off topic for the Evo 3D forums and even for XDA, but I thought it is worth sharing here since we all use PC's of some sort.
The browsers (Chrome and IE) on my PC were really sluggish today and I happened to notice that when my mouse was hovering over the screen there was a message at the bottom of the screen saying that it was waiting on the Google Analytics website.
I'm not sure if their servers are having problems or just overloaded today but I suspected that might be the cause for my browsers' sluggishness so I did a Google search and found this page that has plugins available to opt out for most of the PC based browsers. I'm not sure why browsers other than Chrome need plugins but I'm guessing it's because Google's websites force that data collection. Although I mostly use Chrome these days, you really need to keep IE around on a Windows system for compatibility with some websites and apps.
I've installed the plugins for Chrome and IE and my browsers seem to be faster, and I feel a little better about my privacy.
Edit: Apparently at least some these plugins have been available for almost three years. I'm glad I finally found them as I for one don't want to be waiting for a response from websites I use while Google is collecting statistics.
Hmmm...
I wonder if there are similar plugins or settings for mobile browsers that might bring this thread back on topic?
ramjet73
Thanks for sharing! That helped my firefox speed.
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I should have known it wasn't going to be that easy to opt out of Google Analytics using the Chrome browser.
After installing the plugins linked in the OP I was still seeing "waiting for www.google-analytics.com' at the bottom of the Chrome window. I'm not sure what exactly the plugin does but apparently it doesn't block code in a web page that explicitly accesses the JavaScript code on the GA website.
My next step was to add entries in my host file to redirect the GA URL's to localhost (127.0.0.1) and that just caused delays while the browser timed out waiting for a response from GA.
Finally I figured out how to create a manual filter in the Adblock extension to block access to the specific URL being used for the javascript code on the GA sever and that seems to have worked.
Now I need to figure out what is required to do the equivalent in the mobile browsers.
Any ideas?
ramjet73
Hi all. Not sure if this is exactly the right spot, but I thought I'd try.
So I did the WTF upgrade on my V30+, and after having set everything up, I'm left with a REALLY annoying artifact/feature.
Every time I visit a page on MSN.com or on Reddit.com and scroll down the page to read more, these websites ask me to install their app. I've tried saying no. I've tried saying yes, but then not installing. I've tried cancelling out. I've tried reinstalling Chrome and then tried Chrome Dev. No matter what I do (short of installing the apps, which I did not try), the web pages will continue to suggest that I download the app on EVERY SINGLE PAGE I VISIT ON THEIR SITES.
Suffice to say, I"m really annoyed at this "feature" and was wondering if anyone knows how to either get rid of it or suppress it once and for all. If it doesn't stop, I'm considering changing my default browser to something else.
Firefox Nightly and Brave Browser are two full featured browsers that give you more control of what displays on your screen.
May I suggest Adaway ad blocker for rooted devices?? Your post made no mention if you are using any ad block software!! It looks like a "sponsored" ad, nasty buggers!!:fingers-crossed:
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May I suggest Adaway ad blocker for rooted devices?? Your post made no mention if you are using any ad block software!! It looks like a "sponsored" ad, nasty buggers!!:fingers-crossed:
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Yep. I have AdAway running.
I also get those when javascript is allowed ...
Use a browser which can disable javascript - such as "Naked Browser",
or use e.g. Firefox with UBlock Origin in +/-"advanced user" mode and disable java scripts globally, then case by case allow them - this should prevent these kind of incidences by default
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I also get those when javascript is allowed ...
Use a browser which can disable javascript - such as "Naked Browser",
or use e.g. Firefox with UBlock Origin in +/-"advanced user" mode and disable java scripts globally, then case by case allow them - this should prevent these kind of incidences by default
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I tried to disable javascript, but that somehow also disabled all of the images on webpages from loading!
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I tried to disable javascript, but that somehow also disabled all of the images on webpages from loading!
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not sure which webbrowser you used - but yeah, the web nowadays is stupid - loading all stuff via external frames, external sites, etc.
you, of course, can circumvent those message via using e.g. reddit app or having it installed (not sure if merely installing it would make that message stop).
Another way would be to load the "desktop version" of the site, in that case, it shouldn't be displayed neither
Maybe I just miss my very out-of-date LG G3 experience where it didn't know how to deal with any of this. Heh.
Thanks for all of the suggestions, folks. I appreciate it. I'll keep playing around with Chrome and alternative browsers to see if there's a way to get it to where I want.
I posted this on the Kiwi Browser thread more in mourning at the lack of support and updates Kiwi has received in the last year or so.
So I stumbled on Soul Browser and it's been excellent so far. Extremely fast and lite. Unfortunately it doesn't have extensions but it's got virtually every function and customization you can think of. Digging into it's background it seems to be from a developer out of the UK so should be safe. It's on the Play Store but not open source unfortunately.
Everything is good and all but i couldn't find the toggle to turn video overlays on fullscreen. i watch something on youtube in portrait mode, when i make it fullscreen, video pauses, sometimes starts from the beginning and i don't like that overlay with full of buttons. How do i turn that of and have smooth transition?
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I posted this on the Kiwi Browser thread more in mourning at the lack of support and updates Kiwi has received in the last year or so.
So I stumbled on Soul Browser and it's been excellent so far. Extremely fast and lite. Unfortunately it doesn't have extensions but it's got virtually every function and customization you can think of. Digging into it's background it seems to be from a developer out of the UK so should be safe. It's on the Play Store but not open source unfortunately.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mycompany.app.soulbrowser ? I don't see any info about it at all, no blog, no homepage, no xda, nothing. Do you know any more about it? I love kiwi, and would stick if it wasn't Chrome 77, but for SB I cannot find anything about it and the dev replies on Play Store don't seem native english (which is fine, but I don't want yet another app later shown to be harvesting data)
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Everything is good and all but i couldn't find the toggle to turn video overlays on fullscreen. i watch something on youtube in portrait mode, when i make it fullscreen, video pauses, sometimes starts from the beginning and i don't like that overlay with full of buttons. How do i turn that of and have smooth transition?
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I have no idea. Comment on the Playstore and the developer usually responds quite quickly. There's so much customization I haven't even touched yet.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mycompany.app.soulbrowser ? I don't see any info about it at all, no blog, no homepage, no xda, nothing. Do you know any more about it? I love kiwi, and would stick if it wasn't Chrome 77, but for SB I cannot find anything about it and the dev replies on Play Store don't seem native english (which is fine, but I don't want yet another app later shown to be harvesting data)
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Read the last 5 or so pages of the Kiwi thread on here and most of your concerns are answered. I, and several others, had the same worries but it seems Adguard DNS takes care of most issues. Trackers etc are all Google stuff anyway according to ClassyShark.
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I have no idea. Comment on the Playstore and the developer usually responds quite quickly. There's so much customization I haven't even touched yet.
Read the last 5 or so pages of the Kiwi thread on here and most of your concerns are answered. I, and several others, had the same worries but it seems Adguard DNS takes care of most issues. Trackers etc are all Google stuff anyway according to ClassyShark.
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Thanks, yes I've just come from there! I use nextdns so nothing gets through to Google any way. It looks more a Samsung Internet base than Kiwi/plain Chrome. I just wish there was more info. And I'm so tired of being unable to migrate bookmarks, logins, cookies, etc between browsers!
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Thanks, yes I've just come from there! I use nextdns so nothing gets through to Google any way. It looks more a Samsung Internet base than Kiwi/plain Chrome. I just wish there was more info. And I'm so tired of being unable to migrate bookmarks, logins, cookies, etc between browsers!
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I understand it's Chromium based but so is Samsung so all the same.
I'm having issues using it with NextDNS. It works but I get constant SSL errors on Soul which I don't get on Samsung or Kiwi, so there's something NextDNS doesn't like in there but I can't find it in the NextDNS logs. However it works fine with Adguard DNS and all trackers etc are blocked. I added Energized Ultimate to the adblock host list in Soul as an extra measure.
I imported my chrome bookmarks with ease using the html file. So no issues there.
A very good browser and can be greatly configured
(bars on top or bottom in custom size, long press settings, swipe settings, back/forward gestures, double finger gestures, no reload when back/forth, skip to page beginning, floating scrollbar, own blocklists, full auto dark mode, video downloader and much much more). I've never seen a better mobile browser, it's crazy.
But my problem with it is that it doesn't launch native apps from links:
Youtube is launched only if you google for youtube, but not from embedded videos; reddit is launched only if you use native reddit app and not third party one; ebay app doesn't launch and so on. Dealbreaker for me - I feel like on iOS.
Another thing is adblocker isn't consistent. If you jump through tabs and apps and then go back to prev opened website, sometimes there is suddenly an ad running, which was blocked before.
So overall it feels kinda buggy and you can say it's made by one person and on top of that - by a completly unknown entity (no mail, website) originate in Asia.
So I'm back on Samsung Browser beta which is still missing few nice to have things, but is fully baked.
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A very good browser and can be greatly configured
(bars on top or bottom in custom size, long press settings, swipe settings, back/forward gestures, double finger gestures, no reload when back/forth, skip to page beginning, floating scrollbar, own blocklists, full auto dark mode, video downloader and much much more). I've never seen a better mobile browser, it's crazy.
But my problem with it is that it doesn't launch native apps from links:
Youtube is launched only if you google for youtube, but not from embedded videos; reddit is launched only if you use native reddit app and not third party one; ebay app doesn't launch and so on. Dealbreaker for me - I feel like on iOS.
Another thing is adblocker isn't consistent. If you jump through tabs and apps and then go back to prev opened website, sometimes there is suddenly an ad running, which was blocked before.
So overall it feels kinda buggy and you can say it's made by one person and on top of that - by a completly unknown entity (no mail, website) originate in Asia.
So I'm back on Samsung Browser beta which is still missing few nice to have things, but is fully baked.
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I use Vanced and it launches directly. Check settings and enable the toggle to allow YouTube launch. I don't know about the ebay app but complaining about a 3rd party reddit app isn't the browsers fault.
I've switched off the built-in adblocker and use 1Hosts Pro and Energized Ultimate in the user field and never had that problem even with the built-in one active. Maybe because I also use a private dns adblocker on my devices.
I think the developer is from Korea as there are references to Korean legalities if you dig a little. I use this browser for daily casual surfing and it's fantastic but my main browser is also Samsung for secure and private stuff. Best of both worlds.
Well I use YouTube app and not vanced and it's not working. Toggle is set correctly and as I said some apps are starting, example "eBay Kleinanzeigen".
Ofcourse it's browsers fault if 3rd party reddit client is not starting IF it's registered in system as default reddit client.
Well written browsers always open apps properly: Samsung Browser, Firefox, Yandex and so on, because they respect those flags.
I don't want to need use vpn for adblocking.
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I use Vanced and it launches directly. Check settings and enable the toggle to allow YouTube launch. I don't know about the ebay app but complaining about a 3rd party reddit app isn't the browsers fault.
I've switched off the built-in adblocker and use 1Hosts Pro and Energized Ultimate in the user field and never had that problem even with the built-in one active. Maybe because I also use a private dns adblocker on my devices.
I think the developer is from Korea as there are references to Korean legalities if you dig a little. I use this browser for daily casual surfing and it's fantastic but my main browser is also Samsung for secure and private stuff. Best of both worlds.
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hi there, how your experience using energized Ultimate jost adblocker, when I use Ultimate packs I experienced apps keep restarting even when keeping them on my recent apps and also it seems like it keep hogging free ram resource from 8gb mi note 10 lite
Question: what does the Cup of Coffee stands for in the overflow menu?
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hi there, how your experience using energized Ultimate jost adblocker, when I use Ultimate packs I experienced apps keep restarting even when keeping them on my recent apps and also it seems like it keep hogging free ram resource from 8gb mi note 10 lite
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I stopped using Energized Ultimate as it was overkill and heavy. I'm using 1Hosts Pro, OISD and Easylist now.
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Question: what does the Cup of Coffee stands for in the overflow menu?
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I think it was for donations but doesn't seem to work anyway.
Thanks for letting other people know about this browser.
I am not a advanced user. I only want a browser with adblocker and simple interface. I don't know about hosts, dns, etc.,
I have used Via, OH, Berry, Fulguris, Stargon, Onbibi browsers. Soul mixes all these into one.
Thanks
One thing missing is reader mode. Some old websites won't "work" mobile without it, example:
Infinite-baffle
Honestly! I'm just loving it! Perfect title and Perfect Browser name! Soul Browser
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mycompany.app.soulbrowser ? I don't see any info about it at all, no blog, no homepage, no xda, nothing. Do you know any more about it? I love kiwi, and would stick if it wasn't Chrome 77, but for SB I cannot find anything about it and the dev replies on Play Store don't seem native english (which is fine, but I don't want yet another app later shown to be harvesting data)
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I totally agree about how nice this browser is but I'm also VERY MUCH concerned about the risk of privacy violation. Anyone has additional info about this ?
To the author if he's reading us: why don't you show up and talk about this important aspect of your (fantastic) app ?
Cool browser. But there's no option to import passwords
This was my daily browser for a while but now things are getting out of control. So much customisations as I like but not working flawlessly. Sad that no developer communication exist and bugs are not getting fixed.
Really like this browser but I have one really annoying issue : when watching a video in full screen landscape mode and would like to adjust something and tap the screen, the navigation bar do not disappear automatically...
Anybody faced this issue?