Alright what governor r u guys using? I'm using smartass2 and although I het excellent batt life when screen is off, it is a bit choppy and not as smooth as I would like.and it drains fairly fast when screen is on or plating angry birds for like 5 mins. I'm looking for something that's a good balance between smoothness and most importantly battery.
any ideas?
Try intellidemand. I have had good luck with it
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Try intellidemand. I have had good luck with it
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just switched to it.... whats ur battery and screen time?
Ive been using intellidemand.. works great when I want it to work like ondemand.. but scales up slower when I need it to I.e. text, email.. but playing games and surfing web it scales up faster like on-demand..
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Ive been using intellidemand.. works great when I want it to work like ondemand.. but scales up slower when I need it to I.e. text, email.. but playing games and surfing web it scales up faster like on-demand..
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have you set any special permaiters or anything? whats ur batt stats?
I use Wheatley. I usually get about 2h 15m to 2h 30m of screen time with the stock battery. No special tweaking to the parameters or anything either, just set it and you're good to go.
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just switched to it.... whats ur battery and screen time?
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This was today with lots of texting and some youtube and ESPN.
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I usually get 15 hours or so with 1:45-2 hoes screen time at best. This is on chingys 1.2 with global firmware and radios.
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I use Wheatley. I usually get about 2h 15m to 2h 30m of screen time with the stock battery. No special tweaking to the parameters or anything either, just set it and you're good to go.
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ive used lionheart, and it drained the batter SO fast. ima give wheatly a try on monday and intidemand tomorrow. compare the 2 results i guess lol
Battery stats on intellidemand are ok.. I'm a heavy user tho I use another OEM battery and an external charger and switch out thru the day.. I get about 1.5-2.0 hrs of screen time in about a 9-12hr period depending on what I'm doing.. sometimes I'll wake up and drain it dead in an hour and a half (dl, surfing, forums, texts few calls) I'm undervolted -50mv across the board. And set at 1.56ghz on viperrez using dsbs kernel..
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Battery stats on intellidemand are ok.. I'm a heavy user tho I use another OEM battery and an external charger and switch out thru the day.. I get about 1.5-2.0 hrs of screen time in about a 9-12hr period depending on what I'm doing.. sometimes I'll wake up and drain it dead in an hour and a half (dl, surfing, forums, texts few calls) I'm undervolted -50mv across the board. And set at 1.56ghz on viperrez using dsbs kernel..
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damn.... lol ima try wheatly and see how it is.... maybe ill switch to One xxxx rom
Going to ask the noob question, how do I get more governors?
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Going to ask the noob question, how do I get more governors?
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flash a kernel that has them. DSB is the one that i know of that has a lot of them.
now what govoner takes FULL advantage of both cores and focus sololy on preformace one that i can use for hardcore gaming
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now what govoner takes FULL advantage of both cores and focus sololy on preformace one that i can use for hardcore gaming
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It's called performance...
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It's called performance...
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no. preformace hasent turned on the 2nd core for me, also since it runs at max frequency all the time, and dosent scale down, unnessarly heat and ussage from the cpu builds up and cooks it. should only be uses for benchmarking IMO
Next noobish question. It's easy to find it in AOSP, but I can't find the governors in Sense ROMs. I'm currently using ViperRez.
Smartassv2 on ziggy kernel. Went about 15+ hrs with 2+ screen on hrs OC'd @ 1.8. I also tethered ALOT during the screen off period and ran multiple benchmarks. Stock battery
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no. preformace hasent turned on the 2nd core for me, also since it runs at max frequency all the time, and dosent scale down, unnessarly heat and ussage from the cpu builds up and cooks it. should only be uses for benchmarking IMO
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If you're using DSB's kernel (I am), his latest has pegasusq governor on it. It seems to turn on the 2nd core more often. I use system tuner pro and CPU Usage Monitor. CPU usage monitor allows you to put icons on the notification bar showing CPU speed AND cpu utilization for both cores. So you can see whats going on. Also system tuner allows you to 'force' the second core on. You can do this with Ondemand with good results. IMO
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If you're using DSB's kernel (I am), his latest has pegasusq governor on it. It seems to turn on the 2nd core more often. I use system tuner pro and CPU Usage Monitor. CPU usage monitor allows you to put icons on the notification bar showing CPU speed AND cpu utilization for both cores. Also system tuner allows you to 'force' the second core on. You can do this with Ondemand with good results. IMO
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it hasent work with me.... every time i force all cores online, the 2nd one still just shuts off auto mtcicallly. i just gavce up on that, but yea im thinking pegasusq will be best shot. or interactice for both gaming.
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Would I get better speed if I disabled 1ghz frequency and left 1.2ghz the default Max frequency?
Would it be faster?
Or slower? Or nothing?
Don't like the 1ghz frequency. But I notice my phone is a little slower when disabling. It.
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I thought you were making a kernel with 1.9 ghz overclock? That should be fast enough
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Kidding, correct?
1.2 > 1.0
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Good to see enyo has found where he belongs in xda. Asking questions and learning.
This is a big improvement enyo.
as to 1.2 feeling slower, your putting a massive undervolt on it. Try backing it off a bit and see if responsiveness comes back. Also, higher clock speeds can lead to better battery in theory by completing tasks faster and allowing the CPU to govern back down to a idle state.
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Good to see enyo has found where he belongs in xda. Asking questions and learning.
This is a big improvement enyo.
as to 1.2 feeling slower, your putting a massive undervolt on it. Try backing it off a bit and see if responsiveness comes back. Also, higher clock speeds can lead to better battery in theory by completing tasks faster and allowing the CPU to govern back down to a idle state.
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Thanks. Your right. Backed to -75mV on 1.2ghz and faster response came back.
Also it because really fast after switching to the Medium Leakage.
I rarely let my phone sleep, so 1.2 is the maximum I'll go for speed/battery.
But, the more you UV, you get laggy if its too low, but stable?
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Thanks. Your right. Backed to -75mV on 1.2ghz and faster response came back.
Also it because really fast after switching to the Medium Leakage.
I rarely let my phone sleep, so 1.2 is the maximum I'll go for speed/battery.
But, the more you UV, you get laggy if its too low, but stable?
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Honestly -50uv across the board yields the best performance, battery life and reliability.
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Honestly -50uv across the board yields the best performance, battery life and reliability.
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Is there a advantage if it's undervolted 100+ mV?
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Is there a advantage if it's undervolted 100+ mV?
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that would be called overvolting... yes performance may increase, but inturn added heat, less battery life and instability can occur with it.
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that would be called overvolting... yes performance may increase, but inturn added heat, less battery life and instability can occur with it.
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So -50mV is just enough?
I'll do that. Your good with setups of oc/uv.
Seems really stable for me.
Trying Low leakage for better battery. But Medium is perfect right
Now.
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that would be called overvolting... yes performance may increase, but inturn added heat, less battery life and instability can occur with it.
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just tried your setup. And I didn't know how slow my phone was till I used yours. So undervolting to much does slow down your phone. And it Got hot out of no where.
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I bought the game. Btw
When I play the game, my device heats up and just wondering if there is a app for showing the CPU temp. And what is the safe zone for the CPU? But I really need that app its not only mc4 but that my main question. I played for 2 hours straight, ended up with 12% battery and the phone felt very hot.
EDIT: for anyone wishing to find out their CPU temp, buy SET CPU and place the widget on your homescreen.
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These games are really GPU intensive so my bet is you slow down your gaming. I mean take breaks from time to time. App, I don't know any but you may find it and it may need root. Plus do you have a case on? If yes then it is one of the reasons why your phone is heating up so much. Can you also specify the position where the Phone feels the hottest.
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These games are really GPU intensive so my bet is you slow down your gaming. I mean take breaks from time to time. App, I don't know any but you may find it and it may need root. Plus do you have a case on? If yes then it is one of the reasons why your phone is heating up so much. Can you also specify the position where the Phone feels the hottest.
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mine heats up from bottom
Taimur Akmal said:
These games are really GPU intensive so my bet is you slow down your gaming. I mean take breaks from time to time. App, I don't know any but you may find it and it may need root. Plus do you have a case on? If yes then it is one of the reasons why your phone is heating up so much. Can you also specify the position where the Phone feels the hottest.
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my phone heats up in the bottom right. I don't use a case, i am fully rooted and have a custom rom. i don't have any way to read what temperature my phone is heating up to but at a guess, i would say around 50 C or something i don't know My old s1 actually plays the game smoother than my s3!!!! i think the heat is throttling it. i haven't overclocked my phone.
The processor is at the bottom so it will definitely heat up there.
The best thing you can do is to take a break when playing for a long time. Don't charge when playing, turn power saving off when playing (works for me).
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The processor is at the bottom so it will definitely heat up there.
The best thing you can do is to take a break when playing for a long time. Don't charge when playing, turn power saving off when playing (works for me).
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never have power saving on! and never charge my phone while playing.
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never have power saving on! and never charge my phone while playing.
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Knowing gameloft, the game is probably not optimized.
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I'm having no trouble playing MC4 for many hours.. Charging just makes a little warmer than it normally would be. Something happened one time when it went really hot, but cooling it down and reboot, and nothing happened ever since. I'm pretty sure there's a monitoring widget app on play store, but there's a menu in SetCPU that shows current battery level and temperature.
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Knowing gameloft, the game is probably not optimized.
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No sh!t, gayloft basically hate android Nova 3 has better graphics then mc4 and that runs buttery smooth and doesn't make me heat up. Gayloft are simply apple fanboys. Even though android has more downloads a hour for mc4
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I'm having no trouble playing MC4 for many hours.. Charging just makes a little warmer than it normally would be. Something happened one time when it went really hot, but cooling it down and reboot, and nothing happened ever since. I'm pretty sure there's a monitoring widget app on play store, but there's a menu in SetCPU that shows current battery level and temperature.
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o can you please post your UV settings?
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Hope this shows. I used setcpu to set this. Stweaks to oc gpu up to 600mhz
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Hope this shows. I used setcpu to set this. Stweaks to oc gpu up to 600mhz
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thanks! i just got set CPU and i set them in and BAM! phone won't get hot! also the widget has cpu temp! YAY! thanks mate!
Glad everything's sorted
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Glad everything's sorted
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yep will do, just a few last things, i modified the UV a bit. My phone started to crash alot so i changed them a bit. for 3 hours of gaming my CPU went up to 50C still kinda warm but hey, it quadcore. to keep it at 30C or 24C idle you would need a water cooler. LOL
Ah yeah. My settings are a bit low.. Stable enough but hey every device is different. Rarely felt my battery warm to the extent I go oh it's hot. Good luck with mc4.
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Is it possible that force gpu rendering,in developers settings, may heat up a device faster while playing, rather than keeping it disabled?
I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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You have to read xda rules again.. Your free to use both of them and see it for your self without asking which is best in public!!
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I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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I think they're both great you can't go wrong with either kernel. It's like choosing a lamborgini or ferrari, they're both awesome but it truly comes down to preference.
I think I got better battery with faux 31 but I under clocked and undervolted so I can't do a fair battery life test.
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I think they're both great you can't go wrong with either kernel. It's like choosing a lamborgini or ferrari, they're both awesome but it truly comes down to preference.
I think I got better battery with faux 31 but I under clocked and undervolted so I can't do a fair battery life test.
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I've noticed better battery life as well; not majorly, but noticeably. Although I feel it also has a little perfomance drop. Could just be me, though.
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Sorry for a question within a question, but what does undervolting/overvolting do? I've only ever tampered with MHz frequencies.
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Sorry for a question within a question, but what does undervolting/overvolting do? I've only ever tampered with MHz frequencies.
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Don't worry.
Undervolting is basically adjusting the voltages so the cpu uses less voltage aka electricity. It helps a little but it can make your phone unstable so watch out. Of you undervolt use the system tuner app on the market. You should definitely under clock if you want to save power too. When you undervolt be sure to underclock, and don't do it too low or your phone might freeze! That's why your shouldn't go so extreme on it.
Overvolting is basically adding more voltage to the cpu. There is no point in doing it for our amazes to be honest. It is already a battery hog. I guess it can help if you want to over clock a lot but there is absolutely no point in doing that.
In older legacy phones if you wanted to over clock because the cpu would be so weak, like 600mhz then you would have to overvolt to over clock to like 1ghz if you were lucky. Our devices are 1.5 ghz dual core and sense isn't THAT bad. There's no point in doing overvolt in this phone though.
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Don't worry.
Undervolting is basically adjusting the voltages so the cpu uses less voltage aka electricity. It helps a little but it can make your phone unstable so watch out. Of you undervolt use the system tuner app on the market. You should definitely under clock if you want to save power too. When you undervolt be sure to underclock, and don't do it too low or your phone might freeze! That's why your shouldn't go so extreme on it.
Overvolting is basically adding more voltage to the cpu. There is no point in doing it for our amazes to be honest. It is already a battery hog. I guess it can help if you want to over clock a lot but there is absolutely no point in doing that.
In older legacy phones if you wanted to over clock because the cpu would be so weak, like 600mhz then you would have to overvolt to over clock to like 1ghz if you were lucky. Our devices are 1.5 ghz dual core and sense isn't THAT bad. There's no point in doing overvolt in this phone though.
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I just saw it in Venom Tweaks and was curious. The most I underclock to is 1 GHz; cuts down the CPU maximum by a third and doesn't hinder performance to much. What voltage would you recommend at that clock speed?
P.S. I have I plan on flashing it to try it out when I get WiFi access. Trying to cut down data usage since I don't have WiFi at home.
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I just saw it in Venom Tweaks and was curious. The most I underclock to is 1 GHz; cuts down the CPU maximum by a third and doesn't hinder performance to much. What voltage would you recommend at that clock speed?
P.S. I have I plan on flashing it to try it out when I get WiFi access. Trying to cut down data usage since I don't have WiFi at home.
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1ghz is perfect. As for voltage it really varies but I subtract 75 or 50 mv from all voltages.
PS. Oh nice, hope you get wifi soon then.
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I get about 4+ hours screen on time (pretty damn good) with CM10.2 and CPs kernel. Last me from 6am-11pm but I'm greedy and want more juice anyone else running any cool tweaks or etc want to share
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I've never gotten more than that on aosp. Turning data off when not in use helps battery a lot. You can undervolt and and underclock.
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I've never gotten more than that on aosp. Turning data off when not in use helps battery a lot. You can undervolt and and underclock.
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I get 4+ hours on 50% LTE and 50% WiFi constantly daily. Im currently UV -150 and use Ondemand Gov/CFQ with 1.5ghz/384. Was just wondering. 4.3 is where I get the most battery life.
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I get 4+ hours on 50% LTE and 50% WiFi constantly daily. Im currently UV -150 and use Ondemand Gov/CFQ with 1.5ghz/384. Was just wondering. 4.3 is where I get the most battery life.
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Good setup, surprised you got voltage that low without reboots. Use WiFi over data when you can it uses far less power.
Is there an app that will auto-switch your governor/min-max freq, say when the battery drops below a certain level or when you are plugged into power?
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Is there an app that will auto-switch your governor/min-max freq, say when the battery drops below a certain level or when you are plugged into power?
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Yes there is! I would recommend taking a look at the app SetCPU https://play.google.com/store/apps/...rce=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=setcpu. I have used SetCPU since my Droid 1 was my main phone to do exactly what your looking for (I.E screen of minimum frequency, charging set a particular governor, less then 20% battery powersave governor, etc.). Let me know if you still have questions.
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Yes there is! I would recommend taking a look at the app SetCPU https://play.google.com/store/apps/...rce=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=setcpu. I have used SetCPU since my Droid 1 was my main phone to do exactly what your looking for (I.E screen of minimum frequency, charging set a particular governor, less then 20% battery powersave governor, etc.). Let me know if you still have questions.
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Most excellent! I'll take a peek.
EDIT: Well that is just the bee's knees! Great app! I also found SetXperia which does a few of the same things (not nearly as much) but also allows me to undervolt. The two in combo look ideal. Thanks again!