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Over the past ~2 weeks, many people have been seeing this bug. We often write it off as being the bug that requires you to flash a Sense ROM, get a lock, then flash back to AOSP, but this is something different. Rather than discussing this separated in half a dozen different threads, I'd like for us to tackle this bug here in a thread focused to it.
I've seen what I believe to be this bug manifest with two different symptoms:
Full GPS works fine while network location works in some apps but gives you an obviously bogus location in other apps.
Full GPS works fine while network location works in some apps and simply fails in other apps.
NOTE: If Full GPS fails for you (such as in Google Maps), then go tackle that problem first before discussing here. If full GPS fails, then you probably have the bug that requires you to flash a Sense ROM. Please do NOT confuse that bug with this one!
I have seen this bug reported for all functional AOSP-based ROMs that I've followed, specifically CM7, OMFGB, OMGB, and Liquid Thunderbread. The funny thing is that some people get this bug while others do not, and there is not a clear pattern.
As I said before, this is clearly happening on pretty much every AOSP-based ROM. What is not clear, however, are what causes this. So it sure would be nice to figure this out. I'm not sure exactly what we need to do to find this but since you all are smart cookies, we'll still figure this out...
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We aosp users have been plagued with the location bug for a VERY long time when it comes to rom dev time. Has anyone even bothered to look into it, or has everyone just excepted that it dosent work?
every thread or mention ive seen on multiple forums all ended in DEAD TOPICS.
rootz wiki has a DEAD 9 page thread on the matter, not one further post.
XDA has... 0 threads?( correct me if im wrong) on this, but ALOT of mentions
can I ask a dev to look into this? Excuse me for making broad assumptions, but it appears to me that all devs are doing right now is working on the bells and whistles for their roms and modding kernels and such while this bug got swept under the rug. I can understand that devs are BUSY and I thank them for that, I just request that we iron out this little bug, so that these AOSP gems are FLAWLESS.
I've been on unnamed for a while and cognition before that. I came from Cognition on the Captivate, so it's obvious I prefer a mostly stock ROM. Both of these ROMs are no longer supported though, so gathering opinions on where to go. If anyone suggests something please say why. Thanks
ShoStock is still getting updates.
My favorite is villainrom 3.0 hellraised with the latest version of the siyah kernel
CyanogenMod is pretty nice, its my first non-stock rom. The only thing I miss is the stock Samsung alarm clock. Its worth a try for a day or two at least.
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Why do these stupid threads keep happening? No one can tell you what ROM to run but you. These threads get closed for a reason.
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Why do these stupid threads keep happening? No one can tell you what ROM to run but you. These threads get closed for a reason.
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Are you seriously whining because someone asked for other users OPINIONS on an internet forum? OMG close the thread quick! We cant have people discussing which roms they like!
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Why do these stupid threads keep happening? No one can tell you what ROM to run but you. These threads get closed for a reason.
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These threads are clearly made just to annoy you Miami. They don't really want anyone else opinion.
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These kinds of thread are really a gray area for us.
On one hand, there is nothing wrong wanting to get user's opinions. For somebody who is unsure, getting experience from others about what is good and what is bad can be really useful.
On the other hand, you can't just ask "What is the best". For one, since there are different versions of android builds, no one can just say what the "best" is. For some people, the best can be the most bleeding edge build even with broken functionality. For others, they may value stability the most; and for even more, they may want a build with tons of extra features.
So, with that said - OP: i welcome you to rephrase your question, preferably about some specific ROMs that you might have in mind, as well as what your needs are. Otherwise, i will close this down per board rules..
If you know how to flash roms and you are comfortable with it then just try them. Thats the best advice any of us can really give you. Im on sensation rom and that is still alive and a great rom, but its really up to you. ShoStock is your best bet to stay stock though.
Every quit your *****in'
ANYWAY
I've stuck with ICScrewD and Siyah for the past several months keeping up with the updates and I've been pretty pleased with my battery life and performance. I also switch to Entropy's DD occasionally. It's all stable
Try some various ones out man. Like poster above said if you feel comfortable flashing then it can become trial and error. You'll eventually find the one that suits you
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CyanogenMod is pretty nice, its my first non-stock rom. The only thing I miss is the stock Samsung alarm clock. Its worth a try for a day or two at least.
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Have you tried the Alarm Clock Plus app?
Since its still open.. Illusion-xT is a f'n solid ROM.. Some don't like the font, I love it.. battery life is awesome, smooth all around and developer is active and helpful
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Have you tried the Alarm Clock Plus app?
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Nope but I'll give it a try. Thanks!
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Are you seriously whining because someone asked for other users OPINIONS on an internet forum? OMG close the thread quick! We cant have people discussing which roms they like!
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But we already have a thread with everyone posting what version of Android and what rom they are using. Why do we need another?
SHOstock, is pretty fast and stable, and it still getting updates,, CM7 is awesome but they never fix the issue with the video codecs for our phone so if you have a lot of videos taken with your stock OS you will have to delete those from you SD card.
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But we already have a thread with everyone posting what version of Android and what rom they are using. Why do we need another?
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In the ops defense, the other one appears to be more based on Android version,, however you are correct that people go on to discuss the actual ROM they're running.
As for the people quoting Miami, well maybe they're just growing tired of his condescending posts
Back on topic, currently I'm using turkbey v 32 and like it
Sammy rebuilds or cm7/miu hrmmm cm7/miui k thx =]
UnNamed 1.3.2 for me works great. Went to 2.2.1, but the battery life wasn't as good, i did dig the ICS touches. Does anyone know if flashing the KH7 modem on UnNamed 2.2.1 will fix the wifi drain?
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Why do these stupid threads keep happening? No one can tell you what ROM to run but you. These threads get closed for a reason.
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First and foremost I'm a HUGE Miami Dolphins fan...It's a shame that you're such a facist
Divine_Madcat said:
These kinds of thread are really a gray area for us.
On one hand, there is nothing wrong wanting to get user's opinions. For somebody who is unsure, getting experience from others about what is good and what is bad can be really useful.
On the other hand, you can't just ask "What is the best". For one, since there are different versions of android builds, no one can just say what the "best" is. For some people, the best can be the most bleeding edge build even with broken functionality. For others, they may value stability the most; and for even more, they may want a build with tons of extra features.
So, with that said - OP: i welcome you to rephrase your question, preferably about some specific ROMs that you might have in mind, as well as what your needs are. Otherwise, i will close this down per board rules..
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I apologize if I wasn't clear when I said "I prefer a stock experience". I use BT extensively in my car, so I was looking for a MOSTLY stock ROM with finctionality being a priority, would prefer to keep TW as well. Basically, something along the lines of COGNITION or UNNAMED, but, a ROM that keeps getting updates. I wasn't trying to cause problems, but, I really don't feel like going through the 5000 ROMS for this phone; I didn't think asking other users opinions was that bad. I did post in the GENERAL section. I hope that clears it up, if not, delete if you must.
Hi, so currently I am running baseband version: S5830XXKPP with IceCream Sunday 2.
I was wondering if there was a newer and/or better baseband version out there and also is there any better firmware than ICS2 ?
The reason being is that currently I find my phone to be running quite laggy (Ive been using this setup for a while now) and the battery drain is pretty bad, along with wake up lag etc.
Help would be appreciated, thanks.
I've used ICSunday 2 before. It was the fastest ROM of its time. But that was almost half a year ago. Find a newer ROM from the Devel section (don't forget to thank the devs) that suits your needs.
As for the battery drain, it's a common problem for the Galaxy Ace. Try only using 2G networks; it's not fast, but your phone can last as much as 70% more.
And the wake up lag is also a problem for most users. The last time I used my Ace before I sold it was around 1 month ago (was running ICS Final with some tweaks) and the wake lock delay was still around.
I can't say for now, though.
One more thread asking for the best.
Mod please delete this thread right away.
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There's nothing wrong about asking which one seems the best ROM. I appreciate the work of the developers around here, but they're not gods. And if they or you cannot take criticism, then you're in the wrong place, buddy. I don't mean to start a flame war but it's my two cents. There are roms for everything and there are roms who are significantly good at something in particular, such as battery life and whatnot. They all claim to be the best ever when we know there are roms out there that feel incomplete, that they lack final polishes and that the instructions and the feedback are handled in a poor way. So, let's be honest here: THERE'S NOTHING WRONG ABOUT ASKING THAT. DEAL WITH IT.
Absolutely agree. There are definitely going to be some roms which are superior to the other roms and there is no wrong in asking for there names and answering these questions.
I don't mean no offence to any dev, and i know they don't ask us to pay for there Roms or something but seriously, Devs are not crybabies who can't take criticism. If your Rom isn't the best, there is a reason for it. I am sure most of the devs here are grown up and can take positive criticism and improve on it.
Again, no offence to anyone. Just my personal opinion.
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Depends of the guys, i really appreciate the work of developers, but in 1 month, i see like 4 or 5 updates, with annoying updates like, NEW KEYBOARD, CHANGED BUILD.PROP and others, but nothing with NEW KERNEL, if possible get 3 or 4 developers to do 1 thing!! Or Stable kernel only in 2014 :/
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Depends of the guys, i really appreciate the work of developers, but in 1 month, i see like 4 or 5 updates, with annoying updates like, NEW KEYBOARD, CHANGED BUILD.PROP and others, but nothing with NEW KERNEL, if possible get 3 or 4 developers to do 1 thing!! Or Stable kernel only in 2014 :/
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A few questions:
There are not many devs left here. Do you think it is a good idea criticize our work like that?
Are you saying you don't want any updates unless it is a new kernel?
Have you considered trying to build a kernel yourself instead of complaining?
Just asking.....
I heard that the devs working on porting the XOOM kernel have progressed. Hopefully in due time...
It will, it's under development.
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A few questions:
There are not many devs left here. Do you think it is a good idea criticize our work like that?
Are you saying you don't want any updates unless it is a new kernel?
Have you considered trying to build a kernel yourself instead of complaining?
Just asking.....
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Im not criticating man, i really appreciate your work, you win my 10+ repp i only said that these updates dont be affect anything that the guys test. Because, i see much guys from here, and from other forums, that trying ICS several weeks because it have a new update, did you understand? hehe
Dont think wrong about my answr ;P
What exactly is the point of threads like this? People around here are getting just too good at nothing but whining and complaining. FYI, opening a thread like this is exactly the same thing as asking for ETAs, and I really hope everyone knows you NEVER ask for ETAs here. Instead of littering the forum with useless whiny adn wallowy threads like this, you could have helped the development efforts yourself. But no, people would rather just sit around idly and complain and whihe.
If you want a stable and fully functional ICS/JB right away, get a different device. If you want it in some undefined time, have patience, be supportive and QUIT ASKING. Better yet, instead of just waiting, take initiative and MAKE IT HAPPEN YOURSELF.
Hey Guys, I've reported this thread. I've got fed up with threads like these. Only asking for ETAs, growing up a bad mood... not throwing good vibes at all. We need patience, not ETAs. If you need a kernel so bad, then you've gotta have patience. That'll do the trick
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What exactly is the point of threads like this? People around here are getting just too good at nothing but whining and complaining. FYI, opening a thread like this is exactly the same thing as asking for ETAs, and I really hope everyone knows you NEVER ask for ETAs here. Instead of littering the forum with useless whiny adn wallowy threads like this, you could have helped the development efforts yourself. But no, people would rather just sit around idly and complain and whihe.
If you want a stable and fully functional ICS/JB right away, get a different device. If you want it in some undefined time, have patience, be supportive and QUIT ASKING. Better yet, instead of just waiting, take initiative and MAKE IT HAPPEN YOURSELF.
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Hey Guys, I've reported this thread. I've got fed up with threads like these. Only asking for ETAs, growing up a bad mood... not throwing good vibes at all. We need patience, not ETAs. If you need a kernel so bad, then you've gotta have patience. That'll do the trick
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wow, you've reported this thread?! all the guy was asking was how things are progressing. After the initial excitement of the ics leak there hasn't been anything of very much. He said he appreciated the work of the people who put the time and effort into trying to keep our phone as current as possible. Who do you think you are Ravilov labeling someone as whiny and wallowing (although just what you think the poster is wallowing in is beyond me - he asked a simple question). As for your pathetic 'no one asks for eta's' comment... I can only assume you've been spending too much time here.
Thankfully, the question was answered bu Syl and takemeouttt.
This is a forum, where people ask questions and, hopefully, get civil and informative answers.
1) New Keyboard -- Because people wanted to try the new keyboard with 'Swype'-like features.
2) build.prop edits -- Because different people are having different issues with the ICS roms. Devs are pretty much taking stabs in the dark to see which combination helps which device. (tegra part?)
3) Xoom Kernel Port -- Is compiled, but will be a while before everyone can test it and/or have a stable release (source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941654)
As for your original question, there's a strong possibility we might, but don't expect it anytime soon. If it was that easy, Motorola would have done it at the same time they did it for Xoom. Remember, developers might also upgrade to newer devices. Would seem pointless to develop for a device--that even the manufacturer abandoned, when you have a shiny new device.
The current "team" of developers ARE working "together". In my experience, it's hard to collaborate on something with another person remotely, but they seem to be managing it. Going by the thread, there are at least 2 active developers. Might be others who aren't updating in the thread, but are simply contributing by email and/or other ways?
This thread may or may not be pointless. I think if it gets closed at this point, it might help someone trying to find a simple answer without going through 1000's of posts in the development section.
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wow, you've reported this thread?! all the guy was asking was how things are progressing. After the initial excitement of the ics leak there hasn't been anything of very much. He said he appreciated the work of the people who put the time and effort into trying to keep our phone as current as possible. Who do you think you are Ravilov labeling someone as whiny and wallowing (although just what you think the poster is wallowing in is beyond me - he asked a simple question). As for your pathetic 'no one asks for eta's' comment... I can only assume you've been spending too much time here.
Thankfully, the question was answered bu Syl and takemeouttt.
This is a forum, where people ask questions and, hopefully, get civil and informative answers.
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Maybe i've should answered this:
See the proper thread in the forum. Hint: search button.
Now thats an appropiate response to the question in the 1st post.
How long more do ppl keep their atrix?
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How long more do ppl keep their atrix?
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I bought an atrix 2 weeks ago, i'm waiting to the delivery from China, so i think i would keep it for a year
I think that the community is simply misguided.
There is not a single post which clearly explains that we hit a brick wall regarding battery life.
Not knowing that, it IS frustrating to see a "new update!!" as the title of the ROM post and find only minor graphical changes inside.
There is a simple way to solve that, we need a sticky with an explanation regarding the entire Atrix ICS issue.
It should have a brief explanation that the ICS and JB roms that we have now are incomplete and generally suffer from graphical issues due to the old kernel constrains and even though we have a leaked version of the original ICS kernel, it is only barely functional and in most cases far from being a daily driver.
It will save a LOT of browsing (for me at least) since I check almost daily on the progress in the development section and it is quite a hassle to browse through all the latest comments for a clue of any changes or new ideas of how to make the rom work better and it will inform all those that don't bother checking and simply end up disappointed in the new changes.
Creating such a post is easy and I can do so if you'll approve of my idea, but the major point is to make it sticky and up to date, even if the update is simply updating the title just to show that no progress regarding kernel development/ ICS implementation for the Atrix was made.
I have no problems updating it either.
I adore the dev community here and all of you guys.
It's nice to see optimism where other developers and testers would just give up.
I love you guys and keep up the nice job. :highfive:
Why we just can't delete everything and add the rom from galaxy r
mixlis said:
Why we just can't delete everything and add the rom from galaxy r
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I think epinter tried taking the kernel from either the galaxy r and other similar phones and came out with the same issues as we get with the leaked kernel.
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Tough to say if it will ever happen, but at least there are a few people still interested enough to try. Seems the current best hope is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016837
All the top devs are working on the kernel plz support them by donating something try reading QandA section
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Does anyone know whats the most stable ICS/JB rom here? Need one with good battery life, & hwaccell...
Well, after a while (too much time) with dual boot ICS ROMs - Stock 4.0.3 LPG & PFittech ROM 4.0.4 (with siyah kernel), I kinda lost with all the new ROMs, all looks the same but one have options that other haven't and vice versa....
First I wanna know if there is any stable JB ROM (AOKP, not intresting in Stock)?
The 4.2.2 ROMs are stable enough? what the main problems this ROMs have?
I made a pool, just to know a little bit more about the statistic (if someone will cooperate ) of how many users using each ROM, also can post here and share recommands...I want to flash a new ROM and hope to get some info before I'm doing that
Aokp 4.1.2 official is perfectly stable n works great with siyah kernel 5. Its has no problem at all.
Some roms 4.2.2 are not perfect.they work well but most of them have a very poor battery duration.
In my opinion the only 4.2.2 roms i d use d be: sentinel rom. Aokp. Slimbean. I tested a lot of roms 4.2.2( cm rootbox carbon hct thinking etc) n in this 3 i had no problems at all n good battery life( liquid smooth 2.4 is also great. But liquidsmooth team stop supporting our device so the rom file is lost)
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Sniff.....sniff......
Oh yes, this is a better ROM thread.
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Sniff.....sniff......
Oh yes, this is a better ROM thread.
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Don't know where you find any mention to "bettet/best" rom, all I ask is if the JB roms are stable enough to flash (its been a while last time I've checked) and just for the record to know which rom ppl here using (from the above, cuz all of them looks almost the same)
I also would like to know if there is any bugs or something I should know about the new versions before I'm flashing it.
But if you don't want to help with this, its fine by me.
@Raagh - thanks for reply mate, good to know that the 4.1.2 versions are finally stables!
There are bugs, as always. We got threads about it and fixes for -almost - all of them.
There's no "better ROM" mention, you're right. Tho there are a couple of queries about how stable are those ROM you happened to mention.
You need to try them out one by one or you can read the 1000 pages of the official jb thread sticked in the general forum.
That being said there's no room for any advice on what ROM you should flash, so it won't be -as- a better ROM thread.
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There are bugs, as always. We got threads about it and fixes for -almost - all of them.
There's no "better ROM" mention, you're right. Tho there are a couple of queries about how stable are those ROM you happened to mention.
You need to try them out one by one or you can read the 1000 pages of the official jb thread sticked in the general forum.
That being said there's no room for any advice on what ROM you should flash, so it won't be -as- a better ROM thread.
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all depends oh what flavor you like ... all the ROM's have there own features dislikes and likes to every individual person... as in kernels as well its matter of preference of what you like ...good luck hope you find the one you like
Its perfectly clear that this is basically a "What is best rom" thread which is against the rules!
If you want to know what is the best/most stable or however you want to put you should TRY THEM AND FIND OUT!
All these type of threads do is result in the same subjective opinions nothing more, If you want those kinds of threads dont create new ones use the search button!
Also READ sticky topics!
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Sheer laziness :-/
Maybe its because of the poll that I've opened you may tought its "another BEST rom thread".
Seems like some people here getting 'self-righteous', since the last time I've visited...
A simple question that become a spam one, thanks to the 'righteous' "guards" // AKA bootlickers.
I pretty 'seated' about flashing new ROMs, I know most of you don't, but I've flashed a lot of ROMs before I've got the two I mention at the first post, you can call it lazyness, I call it doing home-work before flashing 10 ROMs, I prefer focus on 2 or 3 ROMs to check...
Anyway, I have no idea how to delete the poll (some dumbs may thought its 'what is better rom' post because of this stupid poll, the aim was to see the distribution of the people who use these popular roms, but no one never choose anyway.)
Still - I've got my answers, thanks to @Raagh @gastonw and @slimlo for the informative answers, I naively thought it was a simple question and after a while people could direct me more to something specific.
You can close this thread, thanks again for the above guys and for the 'self-righteous'//bootlickers - hope you'll had a better popularity next time.
The question is, why shouldn't you flash & test a bunch of roms to find one that has what you want/one you like the same as almost everyone else here ? The whole point of hanging around a place like XDA is you like messing around with your phone - yourself. Not have everyone else do it for you.
If that's not your bag, you're probably in the wrong place.
Thread closed as its a Best ROM thread.