Hi S2 user, :angel:
I will buy a new S2 phone soon. I need a little help from you guys. I need to know something about S2 :laugh:
My old phone is Xperia Arc S. This phone need following step to flash kernel and rom.
Kernel:
For flash a new kernel, I need to unlocked the bootloader first. Then this phone can flash any kernel anytime. But unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
Rom:
For flash a new rom, as long as the rom does not need to have specific kernel, in other word, stock based rom, no unlocked bootloader required. Just install the CWM and flash the rom.
How about S2 guys? Do I need to unlock something before flash kernel and rom? Can someone explain clearly or likes how I explain my old phone.
p/s- i read in some thread, doing a factory reset in cwm will make S2 brick? hard brick? can't even power on the phone. OMG is it true?
its very scary because in Xperia Arc S, i always flash a new rom. flasholic
I don't want my new S2 brick
I hope you guys can help me. Thanks
faiz5200 said:
Hi S2 user, :angel:
I will buy a new S2 phone soon. I need a little help from you guys. I need to know something about S2 :laugh:
My old phone is Xperia Arc S. This phone need following step to flash kernel and rom.
Kernel:
For flash a new kernel, I need to unlocked the bootloader first. Then this phone can flash any kernel anytime. But unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
Rom:
For flash a new rom, as long as the rom does not need to have specific kernel, in other word, stock based rom, no unlocked bootloader required. Just install the CWM and flash the rom.
How about S2 guys? Do I need to unlock something before flash kernel and rom? Can someone explain clearly or likes how I explain my old phone.
p/s- i read in some thread, doing a factory reset in cwm will make S2 brick? hard brick? can't even power on the phone. OMG is it true?
its very scary because in Xperia Arc S, i always flash a new rom. flasholic
I don't want my new S2 brick
I hope you guys can help me. Thanks
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You don't have to unlock. Just download Odin and flash all the ROMs/kernels you want. As for the cwm brick bug, your phone will only brick if you factory reset through CWM in 4.0.4. In other versions you should be fine.
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S2 is the best phone to flash No problem with bootloader lock, you download Odin und happy flashing
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preseodymium said:
You don't have to unlock. Just download Odin and flash all the ROMs/kernels you want. As for the cwm brick bug, your phone will only brick if you factory reset through CWM in 4.0.4. In other versions you should be fine.
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Thanks for your reply. For the brick bug, how come I want to factory reset when flashing new rom? And I think latest firmware for S2 is 4.0.4. Correct me if im wrong.
faiz5200 said:
Thanks for your reply. For the brick bug, how come I want to factory reset when flashing new rom? And I think latest firmware for S2 is 4.0.4. Correct me if im wrong.
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I am currently installing 4.1.2, unofficial of course
The brick Bug problem by 4.0.4 only with Stock Kernel ! when you have 4.0.4 on your phone you flash a save Kernel (Siyah, Dorimanax .....) with Odin (only Odin not Cwm )
and it was save .After you can flash wath you want
smooth 123 said:
The brick Bug problem by 4.0.4 only with Stock Kernel ! when you have 4.0.4 on your phone you flash a save Kernel (Siyah, Dorimanax .....) with Odin (only Odin not Cwm )
and it was save .After you can flash wath you want
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I see. So the brick bug actually come from the kernel inside firmware 4.0.4. Not the entire 4.0.4 firmware. Is other custom kernel likes you mention (Siyah, ..) is 100% safe?
faiz5200 said:
I see. So the brick bug actually come from the kernel inside firmware 4.0.4. Not the entire 4.0.4 firmware. Is other custom kernel likes you mention (Siyah, ..) is 100% safe?
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enjoy ur s2, i just got the s2 and flash over 20 roms like crazy!! jajaja is very good phone
faiz5200 said:
I see. So the brick bug actually come from the kernel inside firmware 4.0.4. Not the entire 4.0.4 firmware. Is other custom kernel likes you mention (Siyah, ..) is 100% safe?
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100% safe! Her is ohter 100% safe Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877270
for 4.0.4 Stock In this thread you found more to the theme brick bug.
I flash my S2 i don t know:victory: 100× no Problem S2 likes flashing
faiz5200 said:
Thanks for your reply. For the brick bug, how come I want to factory reset when flashing new rom? And I think latest firmware for S2 is 4.0.4. Correct me if im wrong.
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You factory reset when installing ROMs to make sure there are no errors. Plus with siyah kernels, you can't be 100% sure your phone won't brick when factory reset in CWM. Best is to flash 4.0.3 before doing anything else.
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Guys.. 1 more question.
When I get my S2, I plan to flash custom rom like aosp or aokp but not stock rom.
Do I need to root my S2 first before flash any rom? Because my Xperia Arc S, I do not need to root because root come inside with the custom rom zip. So when I flash a new rom, my Xperia automatically root. No need to do other step.
I'm curious about this because I see in some thread, talking about cf root or something like that. The thread is very updated. Looks like it very necessary to do it at least once to have root before flash any custom rom.
Please explain for me about this root. Thanks guys.
faiz5200 said:
Guys.. 1 more question.
When I get my S2, I plan to flash custom rom like aosp or aokp but not stock rom.
Do I need to root my S2 first before flash any rom? Because my Xperia Arc S, I do not need to root because root come inside with the custom rom zip. So when I flash a new rom, my Xperia automatically root. No need to do other step.
I'm curious about this because I see in some thread, talking about cf root or something like that. The thread is very updated. Looks like it very necessary to do it at least once to have root before flash any custom rom.
Please explain for me about this root. Thanks guys.
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I'm not sure about CF root though. Although the ROM I am in now has built in kernels, I still think its best to root first as some ROMs may not have the built in kernel (never searched other ROMs not entirely sure). I might recomment siyah kernel though
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preseodymium said:
I'm not sure about CF root though. Although the ROM I am in now has built in kernels, I still think its best to root first as some ROMs may not have the built in kernel (never searched other ROMs not entirely sure). I might recomment siyah kernel though
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uhh.. So root is come from kernel? Ermm.. so it different than xperia. So if I flash siyah kernel, I do not need to root?
faiz5200 said:
Guys.. 1 more question.
When I get my S2, I plan to flash custom rom like aosp or aokp but not stock rom.
Do I need to root my S2 first before flash any rom? Because my Xperia Arc S, I do not need to root because root come inside with the custom rom zip. So when I flash a new rom, my Xperia automatically root. No need to do other step.
I'm curious about this because I see in some thread, talking about cf root or something like that. The thread is very updated. Looks like it very necessary to do it at least once to have root before flash any custom rom.
Please explain for me about this root. Thanks guys.
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Some people want to simple root their phone and don't care too much for custom roms and stuff. So for such people, they can simply root their phone using one of the many rooting methods mentioned.
However, if your primary aim is to install a custom rom/ kernel, you can use Odin to flash a custom kernel on your phone. (like siyah, dorimanx, Philz, the list goes on..) and you'll have root. Thereafter you can install a custom rom compatible with the kernel. Earlier on it was simple. Flash siyah or dorimanx and any custom rom will work on it. Kinda like a 'one size fits all' deal. However, right now with new mali drivers etc, some versions of a kernel are reqd based on which rom you plan to install. (JB with new mali drivers or JB without those new mali drivers/ICS)
CF-Root is the method I'd used..but right now it's not recommended, since if you're on certain 4.0.4 firmware, that is susceptible to the emmc brickbug I'm sure you've read about. Siyah, dori, etc kernels are safe.
HAXTREME said:
Some people want to simple root their phone and don't care too much for custom roms and stuff. So for such people, they can simply root their phone using one of the many rooting methods mentioned.
However, if your primary aim is to install a custom rom/ kernel, you can use Odin to flash a custom kernel on your phone. (like siyah, dorimanx, Philz, the list goes on..) and you'll have root. Thereafter you can install a custom rom compatible with the kernel. Earlier on it was simple. Flash siyah or dorimanx and any custom rom will work on it. Kinda like a 'one size fits all' deal. However, right now with new mali drivers etc, some versions of a kernel are reqd based on which rom you plan to install. (JB with new mali drivers or JB without those new mali drivers/ICS)
CF-Root is the method I'd used..but right now it's not recommended, since if you're on certain 4.0.4 firmware, that is susceptible to the emmc brickbug I'm sure you've read about. Siyah, dori, etc kernels are safe.
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I see. Thanks. Flash kernel using odin. I see in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282 , he said flashing a kernel is same like flashing a custom rom which is in CWM. Flash kernel in CWM? I thought the only way is using odin.
faiz5200 said:
I see. Thanks. Flash kernel using odin. I see in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282 , he said flashing a kernel is same like flashing a custom rom which is in CWM. Flash kernel in CWM? I thought the only way is using odin.
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For S2 we can. Because it won't increase your flash counter. But I never tried flashing through CWM.
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faiz5200 said:
I see. Thanks. Flash kernel using odin. I see in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282 , he said flashing a kernel is same like flashing a custom rom which is in CWM. Flash kernel in CWM? I thought the only way is using odin.
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There are two ways of flashing a kernel.
1. Use the .tar version of the kernel and flash via Odin
(the same way you'd flash the cf-root kernel you'd mentioned in a post above. I'll assume you know the steps as they're mentioned in chainfire's post. Or there are many posts on that topic)
Advantages: tried and tested route, simple one step method. You're rooted and have a custom kernel in about 30 secs.
Disadvantage: You rely on Odin and the connection to your computer which some don't trust. Increases flash counter.
2. Use the .zip version of the kernel and flash via CWM.
Since in this case you need CWM to start off with, you can use Rachmat3's method described HERE to get temporary CWM first.
Advantages: No computer needed. Everything happens through your phone. Flash counter isnt increased.
Disadvantages: Can be a little finicky at times..but you'll get there eventually. Involves 2 steps. First get temporary CWM, then install custom kernel via cwm.
You can start off with a very popular kernel. Gokhanmoral's siyah kernel.Both the zip and tar versions are available downloadable from HERE
HAXTREME said:
There are two ways of flashing a kernel.
1. Use the .tar version of the kernel and flash via Odin
(the same way you'd flash the cf-root kernel you'd mentioned in a post above. I'll assume you know the steps as they're mentioned in chainfire's post. Or there are many posts on that topic)
Advantages: tried and tested route, simple one step method. You're rooted and have a custom kernel in about 30 secs.
Disadvantage: You rely on Odin and the connection to your computer which some don't trust. Increases flash counter.
2. Use the .zip version of the kernel and flash via CWM.
Since in this case you need CWM to start off with, you can use Rachmat3's method described HERE to get temporary CWM first.
Advantages: No computer needed. Everything happens through your phone. Flash counter isnt increased.
Disadvantages: Can be a little finicky at times..but you'll get there eventually. Involves 2 steps. First get temporary CWM, then install custom kernel via cwm.
You can start off with a very popular kernel. Gokhanmoral's siyah kernel.Both the zip and tar versions are available downloadable from HERE
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Another disadvantage of "not using" odin is when you cant enter cwm.
I use cwm and mobile odin.I flashed a kernel and couldnt access cwm nor phone would boot.
So I had to fix it using my pc via odin.
Related
Is it ok to flash a custom kernel on top of another custom kernel?
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You dont need to revert on the original one before flash another custom. But you need to format dalvik cache and cache in recovery before flashing or you probably have a bootloop.
I suggest to make a backup of the rom in recovery, so If something goes wrong you can enter recovery and have the latest known working rom back in 2 minutes.
Please note flashing kernels always have a very small chance to corrupt your efs partition, its suggested to backup your efs folder before start play with roms and kernels. How to backup the efs, use the search tool of the forum
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rembrandtlnx said:
You dont need to revert on the original one before flash another custom. But you need to format dalvik cache and cache in recovery before flashing or you probably have a bootloop.
I suggest to make a backup of the rom in recovery, so If something goes wrong you can enter recovery and have the latest known working rom back in 2 minutes.
Please note flashing kernels always have a very small chance to corrupt your efs partition, its suggested to backup your efs folder before start play with roms and kernels. How to backup the efs, use the search tool of the forum
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Thanks for that. I know how to backup efs. Can i just use nitrality instead of ADB? To flash ROMs does it need to be in a specific firmware like sgsl or is it ok to have different firmware from the base of a custom rom?
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I know my english sux sry:
Depends on the kernel but usually it is listed in the kernel thread the how to (odin or clockworkmod), clockworkmode is already on your phone if you rooted it with cf-root.
Now, to enter clockworkmod recovery, just push volume up + home + power button until the S2 bootlogo appears, then wait few seconds.
About the kernel type, i always flashed any kernel despite of my baseband, the difference is not so big.
if something is not working, you can always youse the nandroid backup (the backup done with the recovery cwm (up+home+power) and get back to the previous rom with previous kernel.
Im not really in the kernel "how to" someone else can prolly give you more detailed info, but as for me, i flashed ninphetamine 2.05 and 2.1.3 in cwm and it worked.
But.. as always, the kernel developers got a how to install in their kernel thread, so just read those and be sure about if you need odin or clockworkmod, if you are not sure, DONT flash anything until you are sure on how to proceed or wich system to use for flashing, better keep an old kernel with a working phone than have a brick to hold the papers
PS: also almost all the roms on the S2 forum are flashable with the clockworkmod, only few (like the lite'ning) are flashable with odin.
Again, i know im boring, dont proceed if you are not sure, better ask 10 times instead brick your phone
ephraim033 said:
Is it ok to flash a custom kernel on top of another custom kernel?
Yes not a problem flash as per the custom kernel instructions .
Kernel can be changed within an individual firmware or custom rom .
jje
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Thanks for the reply guys. Coming back to my second question. What if i have KF1 and the rom i want to flash has a base of KI3, should i flash to stock KI3 first before flashing the custom rom or is it ok to flash a KI3 custom rom without flashing first to stock KI3?
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The custom rom first, the kernel after.
I got the habbit to boot succesfully at least once the custom rom. If everything is ok i then flash the kernel. Better do 1 task at time.
You can decide to try the rom without change the kernel..and try a different one if you experience battery drain or other problems.
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If i am on KH3 and want to flash a custom rom based on KI4 then i would flash stock KI4 and KI4 root first .
Custom rom flashed i will often try a different kernel later .
jje
from my experience
I have found that when i upgraded rom from gingerbread to ics that most custom kernals work with these roms ie now running with xxlpw ics (from gingerbread) with xwlp7 kernal. from what i have read on other posts and threads i could swap kernal to siya or any other as the mega good developers have made them (hotswappable) interchangeable as previous reply said swapping kernal might give you better battery or solve overheat probs.
Eg iwas running darkys rom with siya kernal v?something my phone rocketed temp in short time so i swapped kernal for an up to date one (could have used older one) it solved problem.
Anyone feel free to correct explination im still learning too lol
linuxnubee said:
I have found that when i upgraded rom from gingerbread to ics that most custom kernals work with these roms ie now running with xxlpw ics (from gingerbread) with xwlp7 kernal. from what i have read on other posts and threads i could swap kernal to siya or any other as the mega good developers have made them (hotswappable) interchangeable as previous reply said swapping kernal might give you better battery or solve overheat probs.
Eg iwas running darkys rom with siya kernal v?something my phone rocketed temp in short time so i swapped kernal for an up to date one (could have used older one) it solved problem.
Anyone feel free to correct explination im still learning too lol
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I'll just point out this thread was dead since Sept 30 before you posted...
Hi!
I'm a total noob. This is my first android phone. I've read everything about rooting, and I'd like to install a custom rom, but I'd like to save the stock rom/kernel first. I've found this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
I don't really know if these are what I need. Also, I have an xwkf3 device, but it's slightly branded for hungarian T-mobile (the browser has a different name and icon, and it also had every network setting by default).
So, basically I either need someone to tell me which one to download, or better yet, how to create a backup of the whole thing.
Yet again, I'm sorry for asking something probably really stupid. I've tried to google it many times, but I failed to find an answer. Thanks for everyone in advance.
Are you rooted already? If so just boot into ClockworkMod recovery (cwm) and then navigate to backup. (navigate using volume buttons and use home to select)
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Here is the kernel rooting thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Dial *#1234# into the phone dialer to find out what firmware you have installed.
Root using chainfires method and make a full backup via CWM.
Flash away. But make sure the Rom/firmware is for your device. Eg i9100 international.
Good luck.
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I'm not rooted yet. If I understood everything correctly, the safe kernel is the same for branded/unbranded devices, and only the rom is different?
I'm currently downloading both secure and insecure kernels. After rooting, can I revert back to the secure one to install custom roms?
BTW, thank you for your quick answer
Beco.91 said:
I'm not rooted yet. If I understood everything correctly, the safe kernel is the same for branded/unbranded devices, and only the rom is different?
I'm currently downloading both secure and insecure kernels. After rooting, can I revert back to the secure one to install custom roms?
BTW, thank you for your quick answer
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I'm not positive but I think if you are rooted and install a stock kernel (without root) you will lose root and won't be able to flash custom roms or make Backups. Its really easy to root, just find the appropriate insecure kernel, flash it with Odin, make backup, and then try new roms!
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King Shady said:
I'm not positive but I think if you are rooted and install a stock kernel (without root) you will lose root and won't be able to flash custom roms or make Backups. Its really easy to root, just find the appropriate insecure kernel, flash it with Odin, make backup, and then try new roms!
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Don't flash back to stock kernel.
Use a jig if you want to get rid of the yellow triangle.
Edit: after flashing one of the cfroot kernels make sure you can get into CWM recovery mode. Vol up+power+home
If you can then you're ok to follow the instructions of the Rom you want to flash.
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Thank you. One last question, if I may. Some of the roms I'd try use different kernels, then mine. If I install one of those, and want to revert the phone to factory rom, and kernel, should I root it again with an insecure kernel according to the rom, or one according to my device's current, factory rom?
You will probably find that the Rom kernel will be rooted and have CWM. Just check in the 1st post or 2 of the roms thread.
If you use CWM and make a backup of your stock Rom, after you root now but before you flash any other Rom, you can restore with CWM to get back to stock firmware.
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Beco.91 said:
Thank you. One last question, if I may. Some of the roms I'd try use different kernels, then mine. If I install one of those, and want to revert the phone to factory rom, and kernel, should I root it again with an insecure kernel according to the rom, or one according to my device's current, factory rom?
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To fully return to stock you have to flash a stock rom and stock kernel from Odin. The rom that you want to back up will be a stock rom but it will be rooted because of the rooted kernel. So yea, flashing stock firmware and kernel is the only way to get back to fully stock.
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But if I restore my backup rom, and flash it with an original kernel, it would be unrooted, and basically the phoen would be just as it is right now. Is that right?
bck
hi i have the same problem i want to root my gt 2 p5110 but i have to come back at the original values before june and can't loos the warranty....can you help me?
guys im new here on galaxy s2 thread so kindly do not judge me if i ask noob things
i want to flash AOKP for galaxy s2 and i found 2 of them Revolt and thunder roms
download both + dorimanx kernel placed on SD going into CWM trying to flash kernel and rom but im getting this message :
E:signature verification failed !!
Like just about everything else on here, 'E:signature verification failed !!' has been covered many many times on here (Including a couple of times over the past few weeks). Search for those threads, your answer will be in one of them.
i think i have the stock recovery !!
flashing this Cf-root throw odin will give me the CWM ??
Having stock recovery would explain your problem. If you flash the correct CFRoot kernel via Odin, yes, you will have a rooted phone + CWM. However, many people prefer to simply flash the Odin version of a custom kernel (like Siyah) to achieve this aim these days (Given the issues with 4.0.4 stock kernels, which CFRoot is, and the brickbug). Find the relevant Odin flashable version of Siyah for the Android version you're running; check the Siyah threads for which build is compatible with which version of Android (should be on the first page).
all the Cf-root is ICS and im running JB what i can do in that case ??
all i want to access cwm to flash rom and kernel
This recovery I have
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Which as you said is stock recovery. You can flash temporary versions of CWM from stock recovery, but these only persists until the next reboot/aren't permanent. Make life easy for yourself & flash the Odin version of a rooted kernel as advised in my PP (Use CFRoot if you really want to, just don't do a wipe from CWM while you're running it, wait till you're running a custom kernel before doing any wipes).
Edit - You're welcome, BTW.
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Which as you said is stock recovery. You can flash temporary versions of CWM from stock recovery, but these only persists until the next reboot/aren't permanent. Make life easy for yourself & flash the Odin version of a rooted kernel as advised in my PP (Use CFRoot if you really want to, just don't do a wipe from CWM while you're running it, wait till you're running a custom kernel before doing any wipes).
Edit - You're welcome, BTW.
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ye but the problem cf-root only for ICS and im on JB so if i flash it and then flash JB kernel will do the job or i will stuck !?
sorry if i sound noob but frist time im dealing with Samsung its completly diffrent from Sony
thanks for your help
OK. This is my final post to this thread. I tire very quickly of having to repeat myself.
For the last time...Go to the Siyah threads. Work out which Siyah build you need for the Android version you're running. Get the Odin flashable version of that kernel. Reboot into download mode & flash it with Odin.
Done.
Rooted phone + CWM.
dude sorry but i'v found this
flashing this Siyah-s2-v6.0b4
and now i have cwm and flashed thunder rom
thanks for help and sorry for beeing noob here
Make a nand and efs backup now for future reference.
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Make a nand and efs backup now for future reference.
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yep this part i know from my Xperia S
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
:angel:
start by reading rootSU's guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743
root
eatsleep said:
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
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hallo im also new to rooting but flashed cm10.1 yesterday with root and can share what i did.
i also got i9300 nordic version of the s3. and downloaded some files
odin 3.07
cfroot 3.64
cm10.1
gapps from 03-2013
i resettet my phone and enabled USB debugging and put the phone in download mode and startet up odin and made sure its connected and loaded cfroot.tar and flashed and the phone rebootet itself and installed the ness. apps for rooting. then i bootet up in recovery manager and went to install from sdcard and installed cm10.1 and then gapps and then did factory reset and dalvik wipe and rebootet and it bootet up CM10.1 and deleted /0 folder on the phone which was empty folder from previous touchwiz samsung rom
and yes there are risks but i did this 2 times. tw to cm10 and then back again but everything went problem free. so the risk ppl are talking about is mostly likely cuz some broke and if u mess up it breaks. so it can happen.
q1; when u flash cfroot the bootloader changed and it changes counter from 0 to 1.
q2: when u flash stock back with odin it flashes rom and bootloader/recovery but counter is the same but can be fixed easily. ( did it myself between my 2 flashes so when i flashed back to CM10 it still was on 1
q3: i think its everything thats risky. dont think root and rom flashing are more risky than others
q4: dont know what u mean exactly. i didnt mess with kernals. CM10.1 has a good one i think.
q5: dont either
q6: i dont have any yelly triagle on my cfroot+cm10.1. theres a lille read thing in the left corner like 2mm long that shows u got flashed.
hope it helps.
q6 = Triangle Away https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
TimGrundy2012 said:
q6 = Triangle Away https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
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Unless you have 4.1.1 + bootloader.
mikep99 said:
start by reading rootSU's guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743
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Useful info, read it all but still answers are not obtained
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
eatsleep said:
Useful info, read it all but still answers are not obtained
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
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For kernels that support both go here or here. At the moment Siyah or Goggy Max are the people's choices I assume.
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Any flashing involves risk from almost no risk to a much bigger risk for those that dont read the basics and follow instructions .
Root voids warranty .
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
yes and yes .
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
NO read the basic faqs and guides all stickied .
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
YES
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
IT is inside the rom .
I suggest you bother to read the faqs and guides or join the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
eatsleep said:
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
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1. You can flash boooader separately or when you flash stock roms. (I can be wrong but this is what I know)
2. I never done that but yes for first two, not sure about flash counter, you may still have to clear them with TA first.
3. As above answer, it's always risky to do stuff without proper knowledge and no guarantees even after proper knowledge but mostly no.
4. Yes.
5. Kernels are essential part of your phone and they are compatible with your os version only and also ur phone model. So if a kernel is for s3 4.2.2, you can't flash it over to amy other model or os version. Yes for second part.
6. No. Triangle away may remove your flashing counter but as long as you have custom anything and your rom status is modified that triangle will be there.
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chrismast said:
For kernels that support both go here or here. At the moment Siyah or Goggy Max are the people's choices I assume.
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look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
eatsleep said:
look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
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Siyah supports both cm and stock. Yes, you cam flash cm over stock or siyah kernel.
You have to flash your kernel again after every rom flash.
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eatsleep said:
look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
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As long as the rom comes with a kernel, which is the normal base, you have to flash the kernel again. Usually you can do this direct from recovery before the full reboot.
As long as the kernel supports your rom type (see each kernel's thread for it), you should be fine as long as you follow the instructions.
chrismast said:
As long as the rom comes with a kernel, which is the normal base, you have to flash the kernel again. Usually you can do this direct from recovery before the full reboot.
As long as the kernel supports your rom type (see each kernel's thread for it), you should be fine as long as you follow the instructions.
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Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
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bootloader no clue, I never touched it, too dangerous to mess up stuff.
for flashing googy, usually you do it in CWM or via Odin. Check out the thread and read the instructions. Syiah's thread also got a huge amount of guides in the first couple of posts and they should be valid somehow for Googy as well as it is based on Siyah.
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
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Please do not start messing with bootloaders .
Logic says read the instructions for the kernel you want to flash .
Its a CWM file and flashed via recovery .
You really should bother yourself to read the basic faqs and guide .
jje
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
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The bootloader isn't modified. The bootloader *shows* modified by reading other data.
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Apologies for the desperate newbie question, but here goes--
I have followed the instructions in the stickied tutorials or tried to follow them so far. I rooted my SGH-i777 using framaroot. No problem there.
I got Mobile ODIN and the latest siyah CWM. I flashed the kernel.
When I try to power on I get stuck at "SAMSUNG" and then phone appears to power off.
I can get into recovery mode using vol up, vol down and power. I see the Siyah screen, etc. But that's as far as I can go.
HELP!
It seems to be that you flashed the wrong kernel what kind of ROM are you running touchwiz or aosp
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Reaper351c said:
It seems to be that you flashed the wrong kernel what kind of ROM are you running touchwiz or aosp
Sent From My Liquidsmooth Galaxy S3
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Thanks for your response. I flashed the latest Siyah kernel after reading the "How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!!" thread. FWIW in recovery mode it says "CWM-based Recovery v6.0.1.2-Siyah"
I had actually factory reset my SGH-i777 before rooting and flashing so I was running the Touchwiz that comes stock with the SGH-i777.
Any steps I can take to get out from under this rock? :crying:
hyderbad said:
Thanks for your response. I flashed the latest Siyah kernel after reading the "How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!!" thread. FWIW in recovery mode it says "CWM-based Recovery v6.0.1.2-Siyah"
I had actually factory reset my SGH-i777 before rooting and flashing so I was running the Touchwiz that comes stock with the SGH-i777.
Any steps I can take to get out from under this rock? :crying:
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Yes. Not to worry.
It sounds like the system is incompatible with the kernel. You didn't say which version of the OS you were running before you installed the kernel. Do you remember what it was? Which stock comes with the phone would depend on how old the phone is.
How to proceed depends on what you want to do. If you want to install custom firmware, then I would suggest that you flash one of the stock plus root packages with Odin, and then use Mobile Odin lite or Mobile Odin pro to install the correct custom kernel, meaning one that is compatible with the system that you chose.
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Yes. Not to worry.
It sounds like the system is incompatible with the kernel. You didn't say which version of the OS you were running before you installed the kernel. Do you remember what it was? Which stock comes with the phone would depend on how old the phone is.
How to proceed depends on what you want to do. If you want to install custom firmware, then I would suggest that you flash one of the stock plus root packages with Odin, and then use Mobile Odin lite or Mobile Odin pro to install the correct custom kernel, meaning one that is compatible with the system that you chose.
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Thanks for your help.
It was 4.1.2. The phone was from near launch but I've upgraded the OS as Samsung has released them.
Ultimately I'd like to end up with CM10.1, but obviously that's a secondary concern at this point to a working phone
Sorry for being dense, but can you explain what you mean by "flash one of the stock plus root packages with Odin, and then use Mobile Odin lite or Mobile Odin pro to install the correct custom kernel?" Or point me to a thread/post that does so? Thanks again :good:
hyderbad said:
Thanks for your help.
It was 4.1.2. The phone was from near launch but I've upgraded the OS as Samsung has released them.
Ultimately I'd like to end up with CM10.1, but obviously that's a secondary concern at this point to a working phone
Sorry for being dense, but can you explain what you mean by "flash one of the stock plus root packages with Odin, and then use Mobile Odin lite or Mobile Odin pro to install the correct custom kernel?" Or point me to a thread/post that does so? Thanks again :good:
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Here it is (the stock + root rom): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322046
It doesn't hurt to do some looking.
Use Odin v1.85 for the flashing (google it).
Then find a kernel for your phone (don't try Siyah again :b), like for example, Entrophy's kernel, and flash the zimage file using mobile odin.
hyderbad said:
Thanks for your help.
It was 4.1.2. The phone was from near launch but I've upgraded the OS as Samsung has released them.
Ultimately I'd like to end up with CM10.1, but obviously that's a secondary concern at this point to a working phone
Sorry for being dense, but can you explain what you mean by "flash one of the stock plus root packages with Odin, and then use Mobile Odin lite or Mobile Odin pro to install the correct custom kernel?" Or point me to a thread/post that does so? Thanks again :good:
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OK. The AJK v3.0 NoSwap kernel is the only kernel compatible with stock AT&T JB 4.1.2. However, unless you can get it onto your sd card, it won't do you any good at this point.
So I would suggest you flash UCLL6 stock plus root which is 4.0.4 from here. The OP has the complete guide, and links to working custom kernels. Once you get it up and going with a custom kernel, you can then flash CM 10.1, or anything else you want.
Edit: Cooked v1.6 as suggested by azeem40 is not Odin flashable. It is a CWM flashable zip, so you would have the same issue getting it onto your sd card. The above is your quickest route.