I've had the SGP 4.2 since August (North American version) and have become very fond of it. Although I've followed most of the dev areas, I have never rooted or installed any recovery, custom roms, etc...so it's on the stock Android 2.3.6 with 2.6.35.7 kernel and build number GINGERBREAD.UELD3. I have only installed things from the play store and amazon app store.
Sometime in the past week it has started shutting down randomly. Most times I notice when picking it up after hours of standby and it's fully off and need to boot up. A few times it has happened while in use - it just turns off. The battery level doesn't seem to matter, it can happen at 99%, 5%, and anywhere between.
Is there any way to tell if this is a hardware problem vs a software problem? Any other thoughts? I've not seen this problem in other threads, or at least not when running everything stock.
maybe a hardware issue.
see if samsung will fix/replace it
imgthat said:
I've had the SGP 4.2 since August (North American version) and have become very fond of it. Although I've followed most of the dev areas, I have never rooted or installed any recovery, custom roms, etc...so it's on the stock Android 2.3.6 with 2.6.35.7 kernel and build number GINGERBREAD.UELD3. I have only installed things from the play store and amazon app store.
Sometime in the past week it has started shutting down randomly. Most times I notice when picking it up after hours of standby and it's fully off and need to boot up. A few times it has happened while in use - it just turns off. The battery level doesn't seem to matter, it can happen at 99%, 5%, and anywhere between.
Is there any way to tell if this is a hardware problem vs a software problem? Any other thoughts? I've not seen this problem in other threads, or at least not when running everything stock.
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that was happening to me too. i just bought mine from best buy about 1.5 months ago. everything was fine, mine also wasnt ever rooted or flashed anything - just oem with playstore apps. then every now and then after about a month of having it, it would turn off and on by itself (only if it was idle though, without me touching it) its never happend to me while i was messin around with it. and then it started freezin up on me and gettin really laggy at times with certain programs but it was random and i couldnt reproduce it to try and pinpoint the program that was causing it. but then i read up on rooting it and the benefits of root and cwm and backingup everything and roms and since then, everythings perfect. better than new as a matter of fact. so in my opinion, you owe it to yourself to root your device so you can make changes to your lil buddy. i made sure i learned all about rooting and flashing and backups etc first though so i can do it safely. i mean, cmon i dont know about you but i paid alot of money for mine which is why i owed it to myself to 'safely' release the full potential of my device. :cyclops:
Totally agree that I want to start to release the full potential, thats' whay I've been poking aorund here for months (and tinering with my Acer tablet is getting old). My hesitation to start down that path is if there's a hardware issue I don't want to compound the inevitable probelms and end up with an out of warranty bricked device
Maybe I'll see what Samsung says. Like the previous poster - i can't directly replicate the issue so perhaps they won't replace, I'll see and update this post accordingly.
imgthat said:
Totally agree that I want to start to release the full potential, thats' whay I've been poking aorund here for months (and tinering with my Acer tablet is getting old). My hesitation to start down that path is if there's a hardware issue I don't want to compound the inevitable probelms and end up with an out of warranty bricked device
Maybe I'll see what Samsung says. Like the previous poster - i can't directly replicate the issue so perhaps they won't replace, I'll see and update this post accordingly.
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well one of the good things bout this forum is that it explains how to un-brick our devices if it happens. it was kind of intimidating at first for me too as this is the first android ive ever rooted and flashed diff roms. but as long as you make backups thru titanium and also a nand backup thru cwm and then use roms and kernals specifically made for your device that have been tried and tested and retried....then you really have nothing to worry about. and i also read somewhere that if you flash it yourself and somehow manage to brick your device, you can flash everything back to stock so your warranty wont be voided anymore - i could be wrong but im almost positive ive read that somewhere.
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1. the phone gets really hot on the bottom back pannel is that normal?(not hot to the point where i cant touch it but pretty damn warm)
searched for overheating etc only found the youtube vid.
2. 2 days i had it at work the battery dies after only few hours of sitting
i let it sit and once in a while push the button to check messages and let it turn the screen off. yesterday after about 5 hours the battery was almost dead. today after only 3-4 hours the battery was dead again. WTF???
3 i had the TP2 when it came out for about 3 weeks, spent lots of time tweaking not much time actually using the phone since it was always bugging out. now got the HD2 and feel like im back to same ol tweaking session ahead of me, trying different roms and radios and all to be able to use the device without so many issues. can someone help me out with the correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom.
and what about android, from what i understand it is at a stage where it can be used for daily phone routines without crashing right? or not yet?
all i want is the features to work without freezing. and lil more settings.
is there a rom that is simpler than sense interface, with less animated graphics? something similar to blackberry interface so i can get used to this phone?
ive been using blackberry for last 2 years and kinda used to the menus. great stable OS but screen is to small to read documents and browse.
thats why i keep trying to switch to HTC but cant figure out the winmo.i keep crashing it even with stock TMO rom and no apps installed.
to be honest theres waaay to much information for this to make sense.
i mean last time i spent all 3-4 weeks reading and downloading and tweaking and reloading roms, and thats i only scratched the surface.
so many people are releasing roms (which is great) but its uber confusing as to which is which.
i understand some people may argue that its a PDA with phone features.
but thats an argument similar to glass half full/half empty.
its a phone/pda. not either. or simply smartphone. and i belive it should act like one.
but with the OS it came with it cant.
theres also few people defending its greatness by saying "so many possibilities for tweaking" i definitely agree with that BUT, tweaking is not the purpose of a smartphone, its something you do when you re bored, not something you HAVE to do to make the phone operate at its full capacity due to many faults that are not worked out from the provider... that is not what people pay 500 dollars for.
i really hate to bring it to another post but this is so damn frustrating.
its like having a fast car sitting in your garage that has a governor set at 40MPH sure you can drive it but what good is it if it only gives 30% of its full potential.
Sounds like you should have done your research before you bought the phone.
sounds like you only got one answer for everything...
instead of actually helping.
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sounds like you only got one answer for everything...
instead of actually helping.
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Help? With what? Maybe you could put your questions down in a coherent form and ask them instead of rambling on with your complaints. What exactly do you need help with?
maybe if you could read at all you would see the questions are numbered
please dont waste space by typing dumb replies if you cant answer or help.
wow this is one POS operating system.
the phone froze up and turned off and i missed my father's phone call.
turned it back on and for the last 10 minutes been trying to make a phone call and it doesnt do ****.
what a great fkn phone
what if it was an emergency damn this **** you can all talk **** about blackberry all you want but when i need to make a call it makes a damn call!!!!!
unlike windows mobile phone where you have to build a fkn rocket before it does something for you.
my second attempt at using winmo and its garbage.
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1. the phone gets really hot on the bottom back pannel is that normal?(not hot to the point where i cant touch it but pretty damn warm)
searched for overheating etc only found the youtube vid.
2. 2 days i had it at work the battery dies after only few hours of sitting
i let it sit and once in a while push the button to check messages and let it turn the screen off. yesterday after about 5 hours the battery was almost dead. today after only 3-4 hours the battery was dead again. WTF???
3 i had the TP2 when it came out for about 3 weeks, spent lots of time tweaking not much time actually using the phone since it was always bugging out. now got the HD2 and feel like im back to same ol tweaking session ahead of me, trying different roms and radios and all to be able to use the device without so many issues. can someone help me out with the correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom.
and what about android, from what i understand it is at a stage where it can be used for daily phone routines without crashing right? or not yet?
all i want is the features to work without freezing. and lil more settings.
is there a rom that is simpler than sense interface, with less animated graphics? something similar to blackberry interface so i can get used to this phone?
ive been using blackberry for last 2 years and kinda used to the menus. great stable OS but screen is to small to read documents and browse.
thats why i keep trying to switch to HTC but cant figure out the winmo.i keep crashing it even with stock TMO rom and no apps installed.
to be honest theres waaay to much information for this to make sense.
i mean last time i spent all 3-4 weeks reading and downloading and tweaking and reloading roms, and thats i only scratched the surface.
so many people are releasing roms (which is great) but its uber confusing as to which is which.
i understand some people may argue that its a PDA with phone features.
but thats an argument similar to glass half full/half empty.
its a phone/pda. not either. or simply smartphone. and i belive it should act like one.
but with the OS it came with it cant.
theres also few people defending its greatness by saying "so many possibilities for tweaking" i definitely agree with that BUT, tweaking is not the purpose of a smartphone, its something you do when you re bored, not something you HAVE to do to make the phone operate at its full capacity due to many faults that are not worked out from the provider... that is not what people pay 500 dollars for.
i really hate to bring it to another post but this is so damn frustrating.
its like having a fast car sitting in your garage that has a governor set at 40MPH sure you can drive it but what good is it if it only gives 30% of its full potential.
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You didn't find a ROM that was stable? I'm pretty surprised. I'm not trying to bash you like that other guy, but I'm trying to help. If you really did flash different ROM's, chances are ONE of them had to be good.. The battery is dead, it's not normal for that, mine lasts a full day with use, maybe the guy you bought it from ****ed it? idk. Yeah, it does take a bit of tweaking, but seriously, if you flashed like 3 different ROM's, they can't all have been bad..
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wow this is one POS operating system.
the phone froze up and turned off and i missed my father's phone call.
turned it back on and for the last 10 minutes been trying to make a phone call and it doesnt do ****.
what a great fkn phone
what if it was an emergency damn this **** you can all talk **** about blackberry all you want but when i need to make a call it makes a damn call!!!!!
unlike windows mobile phone where you have to build a fkn rocket before it does something for you.
my second attempt at using winmo and its garbage.
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yeah winmo is garb. but dude just do a little reserch on how to put linux on your phone so you can run android. ive done it and there is very few problems its basically an evo lol. OORRRR just use HSPL(1,2, or 3) then put a custom winmo rom those dont lagg or anything, personally i hate the custom roms they have for winmo cuz there ugly
so is the android development at a stage where it can be used for daily ops with no major issues?
i was actually thinking of finding a clean T-mo US rom that has been stripped off all the extra software that came with it so when i update opera for example i dont have to keep the old one installed.
unless theres a way to remove all that stuff manually without installing cooked rom?
i finally managed to get rid of that annoying bloated home screen.
i really not a big fan of this fancy clock flipping thru and eating away at my cpu cycles lol.
or a windshield wiper on my screen.
installed the CHT editor.
somewhat more manageable.
now i have a problem when calling.
i call my voicemail or any other phone call. the buttons on the screen dont work
the end call button doesn work and keypad button doesnt work
so when i try to press 7 to delete message theres no keypad...
I hope this is not spam or something , but you shold use a Miri rom , i use v17 and is working grate , also you will can boot andorid from your sd car, and watch out for radio , to be a t mobile compatible , for my it does the job
send it back to htc
if it's the international hd2, then it has a transferrable 2yr warranty so will almost certainly still be under guarantee. i bought an ebay phone (without receipt etc.) with a screen problem, sent it back to htc and they replaced the screen and sent it back in just over a week. ring them up and check the warranty status. needless to say, make sure to flash it back to stock before doing so. good luck!
its a used phone.
but the screen is fine it works on everything else and im happy to say that i didnt nottice any of the screen issues posted here i tested the corner and i tested the drawing and my lines are perfectly straight ( as good as the can be on a touch screen)
but the only screen that doesnt work is the most important lol the phone screen is frozen
The HTC HD2 gets VERY hot sometimes. Especially if you are browsing the web with high brightness. Or, if plugged in the USB to computer (charging) and play around with it.
i dont know if i get lucky with these phones or what.
i have not had so many issues with any of my other phones in fact all my other phones besides winmo were great phones
i figured everything out quickly applied all the tweaks and settings everything worked out great for the most part.
this phone is not it.
i just spent last 2 hours doing the following.
soft reset
wait for bootup(about 10-15 min evrey time)
run memory clean
check task manager(no apps running)
wait till i get to home screen
phone goes to sleep and gets stuck on slider when unlocking.
and when performing any kind of task the phone is turtle slow...
i really am loosing patience with this ****.
it really makes me want to kick bill gates in the nuts for taking my time away that i could have been doing something else besides trying to make this phone work.
so to sum it up.
the phone sucks when its factory
you try to tweak it
and end up even worse because the apps are also buggy and might even cripple it even more.
then you are stuck in a loop of constantly reflashing "new and improved" cooked rom
how many roms does it take to make this damn thing work?
i mean XDA dev is FILLED with roms. yet we still have problems.
so much development with so little effect on stability of the phone.
is there a rom that JUST WORKS?
the one that is aimed at overall stable running system and not some animated clouds on the home screen.
i live in seattle and theres no need for weather on the phone. its simple here. 2 choices either rain or clouds.
i really hope we can get a bootable android soon because this windows tweaking sht is getting old.
damn wtf does anything work properly with winmo?
i loaded HSPL took me about 20 minutes to sync with activesync
now the phone wont sync sith it again you damn i hate this BS.
everything works so randomly its not even funny.
you have to be microsoft certified to operate this assphone?
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its a used phone.
but the screen is fine it works on everything else and im happy to say that i didnt nottice any of the screen issues posted here i tested the corner and i tested the drawing and my lines are perfectly straight ( as good as the can be on a touch screen)
but the only screen that doesnt work is the most important lol the phone screen is frozen
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are you an idiot? i know your screen is OK and i know your phone is used. it doesn't matter. HTC's warranty is transferrable. you can send it back and they will fix it. geddit?
are you an idiot? the phone is stock and its not international
the screen works fine can you even read?
its the windows that is broken... theres no need to send it to HTC, all they can do is hard reset and send it back to me.
dont post here if you got nothing usefull to post
im tyring the WCX ILLUMINATI SERIES HD2 EURO/TMOUS 21911 2017 rom at the moment hoping that it will actually work this time with no issues.
the thing i ve notticed is theres tonns of tweaks available, but usually once you start customizing settings the phone ****s itsself and stops working properly.
and you re back default settings, which defies the idea of customizing...
Against my better judgment, I'm going to try to clarify some things for you.
The poster who suggested that you send it in to HTC for repair makes a good point. You are having way too many problems with your device for it to be in proper working order. Although it is not uncommon to get some decent heat comming off the HD2, heat + slow + crash strongly suggests that you have a hardware issue that HTC can resolve via repair. Another issue is that since you bought it used, I assume you have no idea what the phone was put through before it was in your possession.
Unfortunately there isn't really a "correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom".
Every user has a different idea of what "best" is.
For example: I can tell you that for me, there isn't anything inherently wrong with the stock ROM. I have been using it since day one and never felt the need to flash a custom one. Also, I have never had to do a hard reset despite the countless tweaks and hacks I have done. For all intents and purposes the HD2 has been a fantastic smartphone for me (and many others here).
Before you bash me for "not helping", please understand that your questions (or should I say, complaints) have already been answered as well as can be. There is no magic "make the phone work good" button that we aren't telling you about. You may not like to hear it but the first poster who said "you should have done your research" may not have been off the mark. It sounds like you would have a better experience with an android phone or an iphone.
Here is your solution simply:
1 - Hard reset
(if that doesn't work)
2 - Flash a custom ROM/Radio that works for you
(if that doesn't work)
3 - Send phone to HTC for repair
(if that doesn't work)
4 - This phone is not for you. Do your research and get an android phone or an iPhone
(if that doesn't work)
5 - Electronics are not for you. Find a cave, invent fire, make stone tools.
thanks for your help fae.
im not a complete noob to this and most of the time can tell when teres a hardware or OS error.
and this is not a first winmo phone i had.
i replaced my first touch pro2 and the replacement had same exact issues and so does this phone.
to be clear, my PC runs perfectly smooth, my blackberrys ran super smooth for the time i had them( i owned 3 of them)even after changing and modding everything i could think of, it seemed to work fine. and the rare times it didnt there were clear signs of what was causing the problem unlike this phone.
i just expect alot more from electronics, i expect the phone to make calls when i need to without freezing, i expect it to load the OS without freezing,
i expect it to run or perform daily tasks without hanging or giving me errors...
i also expect the loaded software to work with eachother without bugs.
like activesync for example. it works 1 time out of 30, i sat there plugging and unplugging my phone for about 20 minutes yesterday, finally made it connect out of the blue. so i flashed new rom while it was on thank god.
is that too much to ask really?
the heat issue i guess is a normal operating/charging temperature i found out after reading.
but give me a fn break i ve spent all my evenings reading and downloading apps and sht to make this thing run smoothly and theres never a stable combination with this it seems like.
im sorry but i dont want to get stuck in a tweaker mode where i spend all my free time chasing after the NEW AND IMPROVED mod that supposed to make it all better.i just want to use my damn phone and add a few more customizing options thats all..
most of you dont realize how much time you spend tweaking because you dont really pay attention to it, you look at it as a hobby of some sort when its not, its just a lame excuse for a bad operating system that should not be released,or should be updated or redesigned.
so far the illuminati rom works great stock but as soon as i add anything to it everything goes to sht.
i add bsb tweaks or cookie homescreen and everything freaks out.
its lagging its barely loading, cant make phone calls, cant use phone screen , program errors and all kinds of crap starts popping up.
the guy had it for a while never had any issues with it but he was using stock rom.
it was in a protective case as well.
fuzzysig said:
thanks for your help fae.
im not a complete noob to this and most of the time can tell when teres a hardware or OS error.
and this is not a first winmo phone i had.
i replaced my first touch pro2 and the replacement had same exact issues and so does this phone.
to be clear, my PC runs perfectly smooth, my blackberrys ran super smooth for the time i had them( i owned 3 of them)even after changing and modding everything i could think of, it seemed to work fine. and the rare times it didnt there were clear signs of what was causing the problem unlike this phone.
i just expect alot more from electronics, i expect the phone to make calls when i need to without freezing, i expect it to load the OS without freezing,
i expect it to run or perform daily tasks without hanging or giving me errors...
i also expect the loaded software to work with eachother without bugs.
like activesync for example. it works 1 time out of 30, i sat there plugging and unplugging my phone for about 20 minutes yesterday, finally made it connect out of the blue. so i flashed new rom while it was on thank god.
is that too much to ask really?
the heat issue i guess is a normal operating/charging temperature i found out after reading.
but give me a fn break i ve spent all my evenings reading and downloading apps and sht to make this thing run smoothly and theres never a stable combination with this it seems like.
im sorry but i dont want to get stuck in a tweaker mode where i spend all my free time chasing after the NEW AND IMPROVED mod that supposed to make it all better.i just want to use my damn phone and add a few more customizing options thats all..
most of you dont realize how much time you spend tweaking because you dont really pay attention to it, you look at it as a hobby of some sort when its not, its just a lame excuse for a bad operating system that should not be released,or should be updated or redesigned.
so far the illuminati rom works great stock but as soon as i add anything to it everything goes to sht.
i add bsb tweaks or cookie homescreen and everything freaks out.
its lagging its barely loading, cant make phone calls, cant use phone screen , program errors and all kinds of crap starts popping up.
the guy had it for a while never had any issues with it but he was using stock rom.
it was in a protective case as well.
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this is comedy gold.
knock! knock! *your phone is broke*
check your warranty status, and if it's covered
SEND IT TO HTC.
and they will send you back a working phone.
how many times do you need to be told the obvious?
Hi;
I apologies in advance for the long thread, but I want other users to notice the symptoms I faced maybe someone else will benefit from it.important parts are marked in blue
MY galaxy s3 is only 4 months old....I got tempted by rooting and getting all -other- features such as fast recharging, sound hack, trying new roms before they are officially released...etc
anyhow, my phone's troubles showed strange symptoms quite shortly after the second rom being installed....
at first I was not fully aware of the required rooting steps, until I use the galaxy toolbox that rooted my phone easily for me...
then I started noticing the phone would start and everything but noticed (root user notices) take time to show up after boot, it would take approx. 1min then they will show very fast...after that everything is normal so i figured the processor is a little bit loaded...
few weeks later I started using CWM's backup &restore feature , noticed that when I go back to the official Rom, it lags, a lot! , I have to restart the phone at some points because it will stop responding...I started checking processor load and was surprised to see normal non harmful rates...so I forced apps to be closed once I exit them.
few roms and flashings later, the phone started restarting it self randomly,like an old car heating up, it would restart few times then get back to normal state....this would happen whenever i try to change anything in the rom (CM10+nightlies build)
few days ago, whenever the phone received or made a notification sound, I would pick it up and find it turned off! I turned on again and use it normally , no issues....after this happening for 2 times, the phone just died ...PIT partition is non-readable/writable anymore :crying:
I noticed the night this thing happened that, when I restored the rom, it took a longer time, and something was not found but the rom booted normally....
now my phone is in service and they are overloaded with service-warranty requests, so they haven't checked it yet (it has been there for 3-4 days)..I used traingle away on the current rom, no flash counter appears and the binary is official, but the rom appears as custom
notes:
*from the beginning, every step I made was a trial and error to me, I tried rooting once (manually) and I didn't figure it out,until i saw the toolbox that made it easy,,,the first root was amazing, but I rooted again after rom crashed and seems I used a different root that started all that trouble.
*All the mentioned above I believe were symptoms, that I didn't care about since the phone was acting normally after those occurring..I think I should've spotted them earlier.
*There have been 2 overheating incidents, one happened when I forgot the phone in my pants and by mistake i ticked "load new videos from subscriptions in youtube and the phone sucked up around 3gbs that day...it was really really hot when I got back to it.....the other one was when I went to sleep few days ago, I put it under my pillow, woke up with the phone overheated and restarting continuously "might've been doing this all overnight!"
*I insisted -although it was clearly troublesome to my phone- on installing Siyah kernal on every rom "always the latest one", sometimes the phone would keep restarting and I would have to restore a previous rom, sometimes it would go without issues, this happened more oftentimes during the last few weeks and CM10 nightlies offers dialy updates and I had to flash siyah back after every update...now I'm writing it and feeling stupid!
*Official JB roms caused the phone to hang a lot, so I kept using CM10+siyah kernel till the last moment.
now, what I would like to know is:
1- why does that chip get affected?? I never flashed a 3/4 part rom, just using CWM....
2- I decided (if) the phone gets fixed on warranty, to not to root again, I'm having a million guesses as the reason why this happened, including the fast recharging, the continuous flashings and testing (although all are stable roms, only official and CM10 roms), the overheating incidents....etc....I would like to know what you guys think.
If you had read the faqs and guides first you would not have the trouble .
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at first I was not fully aware of the required rooting steps
from the beginning, every step I made was a trial and error to me
I tried rooting once (manually) and I didn't figure it out,
>> basic CF Root is simple as it gets .
jje
First off, I have read all of the other soft brick threads on both xdadev and other sites, but all of them seem to address issues that come about as a result of a failed root attempt. My phone is 100% stock, running 4.1.1, and has been working great for months. I haven't installed any new apps in a few weeks, but my phone has been doing any regular updates. Today, my phone completely locked up about 5 separate times (about 2-3 hours apart for each). Each time, the only way to get my phone back was by pulling the battery (even the 10+ second press of the power button didn't work)... annoying, but manageable.
After the last lock up, my phone got stuck on the SAMSUNG logo (not the S-III logo). I let it sit there for about 45 minutes, and it was pulsing the entire time. Finally, I gave up and pulled the battery one more time. After putting it back in, the phone gets to the S-III logo, but the S is not pulsing. I've let it sit on that for over an hour - with no luck.
The failed root threads all suggest installing ODIN, rooting, wiping everything, then installing a stock firmware. I'm really hoping there is something else I can try, since wiping my phone would be extremely painful at the moment...
Anyone have any ideas?
Backup data factory reset and wipe >>> Or return phone to a service centre .
jje
Sadly as this may be, mine derped out exactly like yours one week after I bought it. It would randomly reboot, lag a lot until the day I woke up to that brilliant Samsung boot screen and nothing more helped.
Had not done anything to it so I returned it for a replacement. Turns out I had a faulty unit.
Sorry bro, guessing it's the only thing that will get yours sorted again. While I know in every product there will always be faulty units, I'm seeing dead sgs3 threads very frequently, I'm guessing Samsung's build quality isn't that good...
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shaunco said:
First off, I have read all of the other soft brick threads on both xdadev and other sites, but all of them seem to address issues that come about as a result of a failed root attempt. My phone is 100% stock, running 4.1.1, and has been working great for months.
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It might be worth remembering that there ARE a certain percentage of faulty units - those are all covered by warranty
It is also worth pointing out that accuracy can be a ***** - there is no "normal" Galaxy S3 that 2 or more months ago was running 4.1.1 - so if you indeed have 4.1.1 that is as a result of some (probably OTA) upgrade at some point in that interval
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Backup data factory reset and wipe >>> Or return phone to a service centre .
jje
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I would love to backup my data, but since I had a stock bootloader (not CWM or one of the others) and the PIT seems gone, I'm SOL.
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It might be worth remembering that there ARE a certain percentage of faulty units - those are all covered by warranty
It is also worth pointing out that accuracy can be a ***** - there is no "normal" Galaxy S3 that 2 or more months ago was running 4.1.1 - so if you indeed have 4.1.1 that is as a result of some (probably OTA) upgrade at some point in that interval
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Yeah, bad wording on my part. When I bought it (the first day Amazon sold the I9300), it had 4.0.4. It has had 4.1.1 since mid-October. My comment of it "working great" was in relation to the random lockups (and now the stuck at logo issue).
Lucky for me, the phone is a work phone, so I bought a new I9300 at Fry's this morning and at least got my service and all my apps back, along with the data for the apps that were nice enough to put it on the SD...
This means my focus has shifted from returning my old I9300 to a working state to simply getting data off of it. If the bootloader shows "no product", it seems that the partition table is shot. Loading a new partition table would destroy the underlying data... so, is there anything I can do (even things that are physically destructive to the phone) to get the data (even as a single binary blob) off the internal 16GB storage?
As I said, I'm happy to rip this thing to pieces, if there is a way.
My Verizon XT912 has done some strange things over the last few days. Firstly, when we went in to upgrade another phone, my service was interrupted about every 10 seconds or so, switching between 4g to 3g to no service and the only way to get it back was to restart the phone. Even then, the phone would only get signal for a few minutes, ultimately resulting in no service. Now, even on the stock rom, will not display a signal in an area where all of our other phones display full 4g signal (I have the triangle outline with the crossed circle) and the phone restarts when any app is selected, or even when left alone. I personally think something failed on the motherboard. What do you think?
I have the same phone and am having the same problem. I am pretty damn good with phones and have had a long time to mess with this one so know it pretty well. I have had this problem before and was able to fix it using RSD although I had to try many times. I tried a ton of different things and in the end have no idea what fixed it. I highly doubt it is a hardware problem, as when I fixed it the first time the phone was much faster than it had been in a long time. I am convinced it has to do with roms/partitions and the way the stock rom is flashed to it through fastboot. Right now I am once again for the 4th time stuck with this problem and when/if I come up with a better answer for you and other people I will make a thread with all the details I have about this specific problem and how to fix it because there are a lot. One thing I know is that anytime I have had this problem SU of any kind had serious issues, no matter what app (Superuser/SuperSU), or rom, or slot I was using, hence the theory it isn't inherently hardware related... that and the fact that I fixed it twice months ago, a couple days ago, and am stuck on it now. I hope to have some more info for you and everyone else on this soon as I haven't been able to find ANYTHING related to this so far after many many many hours of searching. If you or anyone else has anymore info on this or that might in some way help with this please post it here. I will be watching this thread for a while.
Okay, a dual question here. One specific and one general but they are both related and one will help the other. Hopefully if anyone provides good answers others will find this post useful. I have a Asus Zenfone Selfie which has begun boot-looping. The phone is rooted and has TWRP installed. Once in a while it boots up as far as the home screen, then sometimes only up to the Asus logo. I have flashed several different ROMs (stock and custom) and again, it boots up to the setup screen then only up to the Asus logo so I was assuming this must mean it's hardware related. However, I can boot into TWRP and stay there for hours with no bootlooping. If it were hardware then it should bootloop for TWRP too so it must be software related, right? One more thing: I usually flash in TWRP but many times it crashes during the flash process. Sometimes it does succeed with no issues though. On my PC I might be running some disk or RAM checking tools to see if there was a bad sector or track on my hard drive or a bad module... Yeah, I'm confused. Why is it bootlooping and what, if anything, can I do to fix it?
This leads to my general question. Over the past 20 years I have had several phones, many of which ended up bootlooping. I know the LG G4 & G5 had a hardware flaw that cased them to bootloop and I know screwy flashes can cause bootlooping. But what about all my phones? Some were new, well, only a year or two old, some were 6 or 7 years old. Some were Android, some were Windows Phone. Some were rooted, some were unrooted, some were stock, some were custom ROMs. Some had updated or recently got new apps installed, others hadn't had anything new in ages. Some were in use when they started bootlooping, some were just sitting there. Some had a full charge on the battery, some were close to empty. What can be done to prevent this? What can be done once it has started, especially with one of these newer phones that they STUPIDLY like to make with sealed in batteries. And the given button combination just reboots the phone - again. Depending on who I talk to (or where I read) they say one thing or the other. It's software related. Okay, how? Why? I know on my PC Windows will sometime crash and reboot just for the hell of it, but that's usually just MS fixing an issue with a PC that runs too smoothly. And when that happens, it can be fixed. As an aside to any software developers reading this, I know you may not want to take the time to rewrite everything to work on Linux but you could take a little bit and make your software work with WINE, just a thought guys.
Anyway, so if it's software related, what can really be done to fix it? I can understand the big companies may like it if your phone bootloops so you'll need to buy a new one, but there are tons of developers out there making great custom ROMs. I know they don't have the resources to really fix all the bugs but I assume they would do a better job than certain big companies right? And why would the software suddenly crash like that? Sometimes literally NOTHING is happening, so why the sudden desire to bootloop? What about hardware? Can't we design software to work around the flaw? I would think manufacturers would want to fix problems to make their products as good as they can be but from what we have seen, I guess not. If you read my list above, many of those phones have nothing in common except the bootlooping. So where is the error coming from? Is there really nothing that we can do?
Any ideas and explanations would be appreciated, as would any help on my more recent bootloop device the Asus Zenfone Selfie Z00UD/z00T. Just to mention, that is a newer phone. It may not be now but it bootlooped probably a little over a year ago. It takes me a while to get around to things sometimes, like writing a letter to post on a forum. I had in mind to take it to this one repair shop (they had to replace the USB charging port maybe 3 months before the bootlooping so I assumed there might be a connection) but when I finally got there they told me it was software related and wouldn't look at it. Also, I don't want to make it sound like all my phones bootloop. I have had many many phones that died due to other issues and many more that are still in use, even old ones. I just want to try to understand and grasp any common factors that cause some phones to bootloop, and to maybe use that knowledge to prevent future phones from bootlooping even if I can't repair the ones that already do.
Thanks for your time in reading this and in advance for your answers. If you googled your way here, I hope there is info here that can help you too.