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I wonder if it is a good idea to wait for Xperia P than to buy huge Xperia S.
Used Galaxy Ace for over 7 months and now I sold it. Thought to buy an S2 but I just hate that shape. No more samsung!!!
Always wanted to get my hands on Xperia Arc but many other good phones are out there now in the market. Like HTC Sensation XE, Galaxy S2, etc. People will laugh if I buy an arc now. But still arc is taking over my mind because its cost is very low now compared to other phones.
I already have 630$ in my amazon.com account (as gift card balance), but I have to add some $ 80 to it to buy Xperia S and ship it to India.
I prefer Xperia P over Xperia S coz:
Smaller in size (just 4.5mm width difference but I think it matters)
8MP is enough for me
HD screen is not a must (540X960 pixels is fine)
I don't want a HD front Camera (I don't want a front camera at all for another one or two years).
But S is better over P because of 32GB storage, 1.5GHz. Well at least I have to say myself that P costs less.
What I want to do now is buy an arc, use it for 4 or 5 months, then sell it and buy the Xperia P. By the end of april sure P will be released. And after another 2 months its price will also be reduced much, like all sony phones does.
What say, friends? Now should I buy Xperia S or Arc?
The S supports USB OTG as well, it's in another thread
it's your money, I like the S because of the speed, camera, size, and looks.
Ultimately it's what you think about the two, the P has the looks, but the rest isn't doing it for me
Jazz Like That said:
I wonder if it is a good idea to wait for Xperia P than to buy huge Xperia S.
Used Galaxy Ace for over 7 months and now I sold it. Thought to buy an S2 but I just hate that shape. No more samsung!!!
Always wanted to get my hands on Xperia Arc but many other good phones are out there now in the market. Like HTC Sensation XE, Galaxy S2, etc. People will laugh if I buy an arc now. But still arc is taking over my mind because its cost is very low now compared to other phones.
I already have 630$ in my amazon.com account (as gift card balance), but I have to add some $ 80 to it to buy Xperia S and ship it to India.
I prefer Xperia P over Xperia S coz:
Smaller in size (just 4.5mm width difference but I think it matters)
8MP is enough for me
HD screen is not a must (540X960 pixels is fine)
I don't want a HD front Camera (I don't want a front camera at all for another one or two years).
But S is better over P because of 32GB storage, 1.5GHz. Well at least I have to say myself that P costs less.
What I want to do now is buy an arc, use it for 4 or 5 months, then sell it and buy the Xperia P. By the end of april sure P will be released. And after another 2 months its price will also be reduced much, like all sony phones does.
What say, friends? Now should I buy Xperia S or Arc?
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IMO it will be stupid to buy a Arc now only to sell it again in a few months. But that just me. If you have S2 now you have big screen. And after my experince once you got a big screen you never go back. Same with televisions. And besides the arc has nearly the same size screen as the S. So i don't see your logic? Games and pictures and video is so much better on a high resolution big screen. And if you wait for the P alot other mobiles will be released by then, and then you can't decide again.
Your argument about front faced camera, well i don't realy undestand it. I doubt i'll ever use my front faced camera other than taking pictures of my self. So nobody says you have to use it and you barley notice it on the S.
Buy the S. It's a great phone just like the Arc was. The Arc was also the flagship and the followers was Neo, Pro and play. The Sony Xperia S is also the flagship the U and P are just limited editions followers.
Buy the flagship.
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I don't want a HD front Camera (I don't want a front camera at all for another one or two years).
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Face unlock in ice cream sandwich only works with front facing camera.
So you think the Xperia S is too big but you are thinking of an S II?
I like handsets that i can operate with 1 hand. Its the main reason i walked away from the Galaxy Nexus Prime.
I had the X10 and the Xperia S is 5-10mm taller and a couple of mm wider.
I have no problem driving this animal with 1 hand.
Sony's policy (until now it seems) was to release a flagship model 2010 was the X10, 2011 was the Arc and this year is the 'S' until August anyway. Then they released a mid and lower range handset.
I know that if i got the lesser models i would always wishing i got the flagship instead.
Just my personal feelings and obviously you do as you please.
Just don't make a decision on what you think.
Get down to a mobile phone shop and get your choices in your hands. Your choice would be at least then justified and not on guess work.
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I posted some early impression of the Xperia S HERE with some pics of Xperia S against arc.
- If you had any screen bigger than 4.0, Xperia P will be small
- Dual Core 1GHz should be enough but 1.5GHz could help you with some apps later
-There are differences between the two and Xperia S tops it out. I felt in love with Xperia P aluminum unibody and the fact doesn't have flaps for USB connection but once I got the Xperia S I forgot all of those fact.
Xperia S is good built quality phone to the extends that Xperia ARC feels like a little toy in front of it. Flap doesn't bother me at all and made the whole phone experience even better (as far as look)
You could always buy the Xperia S and then sell it whenever you want.
Good luck mate,
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I posted some early impression of the Xperia S HERE with some pics of Xperia S against arc.
- If you had any screen bigger than 4.0, Xperia P will be small
- Dual Core 1GHz should be enough but 1.5GHz could help you with some apps later
-There are differences between the two and Xperia S tops it out. I felt in love with Xperia P aluminum unibody and the fact doesn't have flaps for USB connection but once I got the Xperia S I forgot all of those fact.
Xperia S is good built quality phone to the extends that Xperia ARC feels like a little toy in front of it. Flap doesn't bother me at all and made the whole phone experience even better (as far as look)
You could always buy the Xperia S and then sell it whenever you want.
Good luck mate,
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Flaps don't bother me also, when I'm thinking about using them.
What really bothers me is that, because the Xperia S has these flaps, this probably means that the Smart Dock Acessory that's available for both Xperia P and Xperia Ion does not work or is not supposed to work on Xperia S, which is supposed to be the company's flagship...
ErichSan said:
Flaps don't bother me also, when I'm thinking about using them.
What really bothers me is that, because the Xperia S has these flaps, this probably means that the Smart Dock Acessory that's available for both Xperia P and Xperia Ion does not work or is not supposed to work on Xperia S, which is supposed to be the company's flagship...
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Yeah i'm slightly confused that Sony haven't made a dock for the S either. What with Ubuntu coming to Android this would have been an awesome accessory. Come home from work, dock the phone in and fire up a full fledged OS and carry on with work on a bigger screen. Obviously we can still do this with the HDMI out and the USB but seems a missed oppertunity.
i read somewhere that xperia s would work with livedock.. which is a lot better deal considering it won't go irrelevant once u upgrade your phone..
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i read somewhere that xperia s would work with livedock.. which is a lot better deal considering it won't go irrelevant once u upgrade your phone..
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It does work.. I bought it for Arc long ago and now using it for Xperia S..
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have you checked out the sony sola.
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have you checked out the sony sola.
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The sola is a whole other device with the floating touch thing and not really in the same ballpark even as the S and the P.
It's got only a 5MP camera
1Ghz Dual Core
3.7"
512MB RAM
No secondary camera
Apparently from what i'm reading: No Bravia engine
It does have the Novathor u8500 chipset though?
Sola vs S specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=4369
Sola vs P specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=4436
I think it's just meant to be a sort of a flagship floating touch phone with that being the main focus.
S is the mobile at the moment.
I have ordered it already and may get it in my hands by tomorrow.
Thank you guys for the suggestions.
Sola white paper http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/mt27/whitepaper_EN_mt27_xperia_sola.pdf
p white paper http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/lt22/whitepaper_EN_lt22_xperia_p.pdf
RiotRick said:
Face unlock in ice cream sandwich only works with front facing camera.
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Another Siri style featires -_-
Who really need this?
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shmoejoe said:
The sola is a whole other device with the floating touch thing and not really in the same ballpark even as the S and the P.
It's got only a 5MP camera
1Ghz Dual Core
3.7"
512MB RAM
No secondary camera
Apparently from what i'm reading: No Bravia engine
It does have the Novathor u8500 chipset though?
Sola vs S specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=4369
Sola vs P specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=4436
I think it's just meant to be a sort of a flagship floating touch phone with that being the main focus.
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On Smartphone sensor probably 5MP make better photo then 8+
I just don't know what to get. Help me!
Hello!
What's up? *insert ceiling joke here*
I'm going to tell you a funny story.
In January, I ordered the Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S but it took so long to arrive and I fell in love with the SXS, so I cancelled!
I was sure to get the SXS but then I saw the P and asked myself 'do I really need a high-end model? As long as it has 1Gb ram it's cool for me. Right?' I got no answer.
The SXP looks very appealing... Not only for the dock, but for it's built and size...and in red is just stunning
I'm getting tired of waiting...and being confuse. I really want to try android... So many cool stuff to do.
I want to hear your opinions.
Neriah said:
Hello!
What's up? *insert ceiling joke here*
I'm going to tell you a funny story.
In January, I ordered the Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S but it took so long to arrive and I fell in love with the SXS, so I cancelled!
I was sure to get the SXS but then I saw the P and asked myself 'do I really need a high-end model? As long as it has 1Gb ram it's cool for me. Right?' I got no answer.
The SXP looks very appealing... Not only for the dock, but for it's built and size...and in red is just stunning
I'm getting tired of waiting...and being confuse. I really want to try android... So many cool stuff to do.
I want to hear your opinions.
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Dude.. Its not at all funny. It completely makes sense.
Frankly I felt the same thing as you. Arc S is a great phone and I always wanted to get it in my hands. But when SXS and SXP were announced I felt it is worth waiting for them.
Also I felt like 'Do I really need a high-end mobile?' (just like you felt). That is why I opened this thread.
SXP is a good one but its not yet launched.
Now if you can't wait to get an android mobile and if you can afford to buy a high end mobile then it is completely worth buying an SXS. Previously I used 'Galaxy Ace' and now am having a great time after getting the SXS. The mobile is simply amazing.
Also do check 'HTC One X'. It is also a high end model and it comes with ICS. But personally I love Sony. Also One X is longer and wider compared to SXS. Hence I went for SXS.
Jazz Like That said:
Dude.. Its not at all funny. It completely makes sense.
Frankly I felt the same thing as you. Arc S is a great phone and I always wanted to get it in my hands. But when SXS and SXP were announced I felt it is worth waiting for them.
Also I felt like 'Do I really need a high-end mobile?' (just like you felt). That is why I opened this thread.
SXP is a good one but its not yet launched.
Now if you can't wait to get an android mobile and if you can afford to buy a high end mobile then it is completely worth buying an SXS. Previously I used 'Galaxy Ace' and now am having a great time after getting the SXS. The mobile is simply amazing.
Also do check 'HTC One X'. It is also a high end model and it comes with ICS. But personally I love Sony. Also One X is longer and wider compared to SXS. Hence I went for SXS.
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Lol in this case it's dudette.
I checked out the HTC One X and the One S but, HTC fans please forgive, it's not as beautiful as the SXS. Sony adds that mojo that makes you fall in love. Plus, I know SenseUI is pretty and has lots of tweaks however Sony's simplicity is pure win.
I'm going to wait a bit for the P, to hear about it from people who use it daily. Then I'll decide which to buy. I have to choose wisely, I'll be with one of them for 2 years
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I checked out the HTC One X and the One S but, HTC fans please forgive, it's not as beautiful as the SXS. Sony adds that mojo that makes you fall in love. Plus, I know SenseUI is pretty and has lots of tweaks however Sony's simplicity is pure win.
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I'm going to wait a bit for the P, to hear about it from people who use it daily. Then I'll decide which to buy. I have to choose wisely, I'll be with one of them for 2 years
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Hey! If you are going to wait for P to launch then there is nothing big to decide. Like I said previously, if you can afford to buy a high end mobile then SXS would be ideal option to choose. If you feel like high end mobile is not necessary then surely SXP would be the one for you. The point is both are quality mobiles in their range.
Even after the launch of P you cannot get proper opinions comparing them. Both come under different range. I am sure both users will say S is good (its sony's flagship afterall, isn't it?). Like I said, it all comes down to whether you can afford for it or not.
And it would be silly if you buy the S after the release of P because you like S more. I mean the wait would be meaningless, right?
Keep reading the reviews of SXS. I am sure you are doing it now. Also what do you feel about SGSIII?
I would say that the Xperia P is the smallest brother to Xperia S.
I was also thinking about Xperia P, but I wanted a little bit bigger screen, but with bigger screen, it means bigger phone. It's not very comfy to control the Xperia S with only one hand. I'm a teenager so I don't have big man hands.
And Xperia P was not available in my country at that time, and I desperatly needed a phone, so there was no other choice then Xperia S.
But I think I get used to this big Xperia S phone. It would be even more perfect if it wasn't that tall (tricky to control the phone with only the thumb over the big area of screen).
But if I went for the Xperia P, it would be like my old Xperia X10, with 1GHz processor, 8MP and same screen size, so upgrading wouldnt be that big of a deal, so I just went for something good when I already was buying a new phone in 2012!
Good luck chosing your phone!
Today i was reading an article on tech radar about the top 20 smart phones today, the Xperia S made the list but the Acro S didn't and not just that; i am a religious follower of most major tech blogs and sites and i seldom come across anything talking about the Acro S,
this forum also serve as an example, how many threads do you see about the Acro S compared to the S? How many roms, custom kernels, etc?
The only thing i can think of is bad marketing as they both have almost identical hardware except that the Acro is rugged, waterproof and does not suffer from the fail capacitive button or the lack of sd card support which makes it a 100 times better phone, this is a clear example of Sony bad marketing, i mean the better device isn't even popular amongst those loyal to the brand let alone other none Sony users.
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that top is not that good ...LG 4x on 6th place???????? wtf ...seriously..
and yeah acro s isn't a " normal " phone like sony...it has splash etc things..maybe that's why they didin't included in their rank.
I stopped reading hi-tech news and blogs a long time ago. Too many biased and fanboyish opinion. Most of those blogs now are either pro-Samsung or pro-Apple. Everything got to compare to the S3/New Iphone. Sony, LG and other smartphones company got smashed to death. So, what's the point?
bad marketing led to bad dev support
its that bad that the well talented and knowledgeable developers with good taste aren't here. compared to what i used to have and get with xperia arc S. people in this xperia 2012 forum doesn't work well with each other. i have posted and created several threads for the betterment of the device, but none or a very few are responding.
hell they don't even care if they a have a slick and good looking quicktoggles that matches the SONY UXP UI, a very few cooperate with software issues like quick camera launch bug and the BRAVIA engine issue for unlocked bootloaders.
several devs from 2012 line up were asking devs from this forum for a little cooperation of porting some goodies, but no one is cooperating.
IF I ONLY HAD THE KNOWLEDGE HOW TO DO ALL THIS, I WILL SPEND ATLEAST A FEW HOURS OF MY FREE TIME TO MAKE THIS GLOOMY FORUM LIVELY.
They don't sell the acro s everywhere, maybe that's why.
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ambetdelarosa said:
IF I ONLY HAD THE KNOWLEDGE HOW TO DO ALL THIS, I WILL SPEND ATLEAST A FEW HOURS OF MY FREE TIME TO MAKE THIS GLOOMY FORUM LIVELY.
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The knowledge can be gathered all over the internet. I also do not have the knowledge but the lack of customizations for Acro S lead me to try to tweak stuff myself .. and guess what: it worked .
Now we are getting to the second part of your sentence: free time. What free time ? I wish I had at least 2 hours a day to dedicate on doing new stuff ... but I don't. And looking at the dev. community, there are few devs doing stuff for a lot of devices so I guess they don't have too much time to dedicate to Acro S alone.
So basically we are stuck ... I tried MIUI - no go for me. I them moved to CM .. 9.1 is fine but still has few bugs ... CM10 is not yet ready for daily use. So ... I got stuck with the original sony firmware with some tweaks that I implemented myself and with all the bloatware removed. In the end is a nice and stable device so I don;t complain too much ... I just wish some JB would be made available by Sony (considering that my previous device was a Galaxy Nexus I know what I'm missing).
As for the "badly marketed" part I do not agree. In my opinion Acro S was a test conceived to see how people will adhere to such a phone. Is not the fastest nor the slimmest device on the market and the battery life is sub-par ... but is waterproof. And apparently there is not a lot of people out there willing to trade off slickness for roughness ... and if there is no huge market, so is the advertising/marketing for the product.
And let's not forget. This phone was announced way back, at the beginning of 2012 ... and it was made available in September ... quite a delay I might say. From now on people are concentrating on the new models.
In a way I agree this thing is badly marketed. On August 9 I sent message to sony support center Romania, and they replied me on August 21 saying:
With regards to your inquiry, first of all we would like to apologize for the delay in our answer for your email. We would like to inform you that Xperia Acro S is not available in the Romanian market.
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Couple of days later I found out that many mobile phone vendors here in Romania already sell this item.
not yet released in india where defy rules and it could be a great success, if they had released it in india poor marketing ..............
ro_explorer said:
The knowledge can be gathered all over the internet. I also do not have the knowledge but the lack of customizations for Acro S lead me to try to tweak stuff myself .. and guess what: it worked .
Now we are getting to the second part of your sentence: free time. What free time ? I wish I had at least 2 hours a day to dedicate on doing new stuff ... but I don't. And looking at the dev. community, there are few devs doing stuff for a lot of devices so I guess they don't have too much time to dedicate to Acro S alone.
So basically we are stuck ... I tried MIUI - no go for me. I them moved to CM .. 9.1 is fine but still has few bugs ... CM10 is not yet ready for daily use. So ... I got stuck with the original sony firmware with some tweaks that I implemented myself and with all the bloatware removed. In the end is a nice and stable device so I don;t complain too much ... I just wish some JB would be made available by Sony (considering that my previous device was a Galaxy Nexus I know what I'm missing).
As for the "badly marketed" part I do not agree. In my opinion Acro S was a test conceived to see how people will adhere to such a phone. Is not the fastest nor the slimmest device on the market and the battery life is sub-par ... but is waterproof. And apparently there is not a lot of people out there willing to trade off slickness for roughness ... and if there is no huge market, so is the advertising/marketing for the product.
And let's not forget. This phone was announced way back, at the beginning of 2012 ... and it was made available in September ... quite a delay I might say. From now on people are concentrating on the new models.
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The Acro S has the same cpu, gpu, ram, camera as the Xperia S. The same amazing display with the highest pixel density in the entire market and it supports SD cards up to 64 gigs while the S can't support SD at all, now since you mentioned the battery, Acro S has a 1910 mAh battery, the S 1750 mAh battery.
Add to that the fact that it's waterproof, dust proof and that it can take a beating and that it does not suffer from the buttons failing problem in the S and you got a phone that is superior in every single way, yet today people still go buy the S while the Acro sits next to it on the shelf, why? Terrible marketing, do you think anyone who knows what i just wrote will still buy an S?
The only place where the Acro have been properly promoted was in Japan and it was a massive hit, dude who wouldn't take a waterproof rugged phone that can dive and offer specs better than the flagship device?, and i am talking mainly about the japanese versions of the Acro that got released way before the Acro S when the Xperia S was still Sony's flagship.
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Acro S is advertised alot in Hong Kong ... Thats why release date for v is pushed here in Hong Kong ,,,, !
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The Acro S has the same cpu, gpu, ram, camera as the Xperia S. The same amazing display with the highest pixel density in the entire market and it supports SD cards up to 64 gigs while the S can't support SD at all, now since you mentioned the battery, Acro S has a 1910 mAh battery, the S 1750 mAh battery.
Add to that the fact that it's waterproof, dust proof and that it can take a beating and that it does not suffer from the buttons failing problem in the S and you got a phone that is superior in every single way, yet today people still go buy the S while the Acro sits next to it on the shelf, why? Terrible marketing, do you think anyone who knows what i just wrote will still buy an S?
The only place where the Acro have been properly promoted was in Japan and it was a massive hit, dude who wouldn't take a waterproof rugged phone that can dive and offer specs better than the flagship device?, and i am talking mainly about the japanese versions of the Acro that got released way before the Acro S when the Xperia S was still Sony's flagship.
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I know everything to know, and it is sold in my country. But I still go for the S.
Acro S is a little late to the party than other phone had become cheap.
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Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. The most important thing is that i have to decide till 30.11 because there's an promotion in my shop. Xperia S + Euti with keyboard in one price.
The main question is that i won't make a big mistake, mainly im concerned about Sony's support for Tabs. I'm sure that Samsung won't leave Tab just like that without any updates and most of developers are now working with Galaxy i guess.
SO, do You think that Xperia S will get updates and developers will take care of that model? Because my friend with older one is very disapointed about Sony's updates, etc.
Thx for any answer and sorry if i did topic in wrong section.
The xperia tablet s is no developer darling. Far from it. Sony is extraordinary slow on updates. My local support didn't even know if jelly bean were "in the making" for the xperia. But official, international Sony has confirmed it. But considering devices like the Motorola zoom allready got jelly bean, despite being 2+ years old, Sony is really not a particulaly good OEM, when it comes to updates. About the tablet it self : really bugged. Really bad software, mediocre battery life, and filled to the brim with bloatware. Fortunately, root access has been achieved, so that can be dealt with. Design and feel of the tab is awesome, but software wise, it's close to disaster. Far from finished.. I say, put your money on a nexus 10. Same price, better specs, vanilla Android and better support from google and developers alike. Just my 2 cents.
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Yes I tuner to the Xperia this tablet is not for programmers and adventurous. But the Xperia Tablet is a very very useful device - top is the display and the processing - up to now I just noticed a bug - Standby Wifi Bug ... but otherwise everything works super - I have when buying and I'm also expecting no desire to torment me with Custom Roms have more bugs that have been adapted from programmed Hobbyprogs /. Previously I had an LG V900 and the LG IPAD2 there was only one update us .. but from 3.0 to 3.1 and there was already ICS out then the device is not supported in any further a USB connection without function and not a fix. Samsung is not exactly famous for its updates only when the new series - when the unit is 2 years old it was then with updates ... Also, the Google phones and tablets not convince me ... In the end it's like with all things, there is nix perfect one must always make swab ... I already have the Xperia S phone and am very excited so I decided for the Xperia S Tablet ... and I have not regretted it or not root task of the manufacturer is to close the gaps and has the Sony made you can not even be angry ... and JB is certainly the end of January 2013
Ryumari said:
Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. The most important thing is that i have to decide till 30.11 because there's an promotion in my shop. Xperia S + Euti with keyboard in one price.
The main question is that i won't make a big mistake, mainly im concerned about Sony's support for Tabs. I'm sure that Samsung won't leave Tab just like that without any updates and most of developers are now working with Galaxy i guess.
SO, do You think that Xperia S will get updates and developers will take care of that model? Because my friend with older one is very disapointed about Sony's updates, etc.
Thx for any answer and sorry if i did topic in wrong section.
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I agree with Raedek
Premium feel, awesome design and above average display. It could be a winner if not for the buggy software. I couldn't get past the random shutdowns while watching movies or in sleep mode. I've had a positive experience with the nexus 7 so I tend to agree with the suggestion to go with a Nexus 10. Good luck with your decision
Personally I wouldn't touch the Sony S v2 tablet.
I made the mistake with the first Sony Tablet S when it was heavily discounted only to learn that this tablet has very poor developer support: no ROMs and can't even do a nand backup. Updates are also non-existent.
My Sony S is pretty much junk ATM IMHO.
My advice would be to avoid and go for something that is more widely supported (i.e Xoom or Samsung tablets) by developers.
Good luck.
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Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. /QUOTE]
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Totally disagree with all the comments here which seem to come from people that owned the previous tablet, but not the S2.
I don't spend my money lightly and after last years model, I wanted to be sure this was the right tabletl before I spent money on another Sony product.It wasn't the wrong choice, the Xperia Tablet S is a fantastic bit of kit, I don't have any bugs with mine (or bugs that affect me) and it wasn't purchased because of the development support.
If you want development, go with the Nexus 10, but if it's not development you want, the Xperia Tab is for you. Have had it since day 1 and love it!!!
The xperia tablet s is no developer darling. Far from it. Sony is extraordinary slow on updates. My local support didn't even know if jelly bean were "in the making" for the xperia. But official, international Sony has confirmed it. But considering devices like the Motorola zoom allready got jelly bean, despite being 2+ years old, Sony is really not a particulaly good OEM, when it comes to updates. About the tablet it self : really bugged. Really bad software, mediocre battery life, and filled to the brim with bloatware. Fortunately, root access has been achieved, so that can be dealt with. Design and feel of the tab is awesome, but software wise, it's close to disaster. Far from finished.. I say, put your money on a nexus 10. Same price, better specs, vanilla Android and better support from google and developers alike. Just my
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Agreed. Battery life excluded. I like the device, I own it, but it can be underwhelming at times. Personally, I don't like the Nexus 10. Feels cheap and the outstanding specs, like screen resolution and contrast seem subpar comparing to the Xperia Tablet S, even though it embodies half the screen resolution. Seems silly, but that is what I see.
The xperia tablet is one of the best currently on the market. The only android tab that could outdo it in my mind right now is the nexus 10 because of the awesome display and ram...but no sd card slot so if you want lots of storage you have to pay 500.
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Sony Xperia phones now 3rd highest seller internationally
http://tinyurl.com/ae3adwb (Wall Street Journal)
Sony is 2nd highest in the United Kingdom
http://tinyurl.com/co6wcep (Talk Android)
I guess Sony is back with a vengeance. I like many things that Apple and Samsung bring to the mobile market, but I'm tired of watching this duopoly develop, so I'm glad to see more competition and a disruption to that dupoply. I don't know where all you guys live, but where I live, almost ALL of the Samsung phones are almost as expensive as the Apple ones and at that they are all black retangular boring objects with NO differentiation. I'm glad to see NEW price points, COLOUR and CHOICE. Sadly, HTC, Sharp and others seem to have been falling apart in the last couple of years so any more competition is good.
(As for the resources, if you Google the stories you'll find a resource that you may prefer, these two were more credible for me.)
They are beautiful devices, I'm now on my third and my next Phone no doubt will be one.
That's me too, I own products from all of the major companies and really enjoy them, but I think Sony's on to something with these phones, and the sales stats. suggest the same too.
Love the Sony phones (have four of them). Never been a fan of HTC and Samsung just feels cheap (though they have nice software additions). Next years Sony devices are going to kick ass too.
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next year I may purchase a sony nexus
If a Sony nexus comes.. It will be a no-brainer for me....i love Sony products... This is my 4th phone 4m Sony.. Never been disappointed....
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This is very good news indeed. I've always felt that Sony and the Xperia range have never received the recognition they deserve like the way Apple and Samsung do. Some people buy iPhones and S3s and Note 2s just because of the name. Good to see people finally coming to their senses. Xperias ftw
yeaaahhh... This is real story, my friend sold his Galaxy W and he asked me which Sony phone is the best with a budget around Rp 3 million
and I suggest him to buy Xperia P..
It's a prove that Sony is back and I proud have my Sola... :highfive:
Yeah xperias become really popular,no one wants Samsung becuase their phones are ugly and expensive (not Apple expensive) but still my country goes two Europe lower midlle part so price is really important (i cant understand how americans could be poor when everything is much cheaper is their country and still have much bigger pay) for example my cousing who never had Smartphone (of ANY kind) want to buy Xperia Miro so he asked me is it good,well I told him to go with Xperia Mini or Live but he insisted,not sure why.This is just proof that their sales are going up because good design and cheap prices.Just to warn I see many Samsugn-Apple fanboys not reccomending Sony because of 2010 Xperia fiasco but they never had any Sony phone.I cant understand who could buy Samsung phones,they are ugly and have problems+one of worst update support,but it looks they are upgrading Novathor devices to JB so Sony must to then because that could really get effect to their sales.
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I agree with all of you.
I had an Xperia S, and now i have an Xperia P.....is the sexiest smartphone on the market IMHO. I selled XS just because was too big and heavy for my pockets....just the battery is less durable....but overall i like more than XS.
Another good thing from Sony are the updates that generally are quite frequent and good instead of other brands (who said LG ? ).
How exciting. I can't wait to see what Sony offers in the future.
Yeah, lots of tech. sites are speculating that Sony is ramping up it's software and updates now that it's getting so much positive media attention. I cannot believe how popular the latest Bond phone is...
p.s. I put this in the general news section of Android on XDA. This is news of a major Android OEM. But it was stuffed in this corner. That p**** me off sometimes.
Thats what they call as categorisation
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Well,everybody that are not Sony user keep complaining that Sony doesn't use quad core device and says dual core device is low end devices....and I was like "Dafuq dude..."...Smartphone is a phone,not a computer...
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Well,everybody that are not Sony user keep complaining that Sony doesn't use quad core device and says dual core device is low end devices....and I was like "Dafuq dude..."...Smartphone is a phone,not a computer...
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Also xperia t competed well against quad core sgs3
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Sony has a long way to go...hope we get a Sony Nexus NXT year!!!
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Yeah, initially Sony made some public comments that they were not rushing into multiple cores (over a year ago) because smartphones 'had no use for them'. Now, if they perform well with fewer or a single core, I agree. Many cores to me is like too many megapixels, there is more to a good camera than megapixels, no?
To be honest, I do not see any performance boost on my dual core Sola than any of my previous single core phones. And yes, I would *love* to see a Sony Nexus. It should have been the Bond phone! Imagine the Bond phone which is so popular getting Nexus status? Actually, if you Google this, Sony Ericsson declined Google's invitation to be an early Nexus device OEM. Bert Norberg said something about 'we're not that kind of OEM', right before sales and profits tanked.
If you answered "yes", then which phone do you wish you had bought/waited and bought instead?
Honestly I've never have to mess around/repair a phone so much and still, 4 months after buying, not at all being happy with it. Mostly it's the battery life, but the software support/bugs got me wishing I had bought another phone instead. Maybe an Xperia V w/extended battery or just an HTC.
It's 70% no and 30% yes.
I really dig this design, seriously, it's gorgeous! And the build materials...LOVE IT!
However...the camera isn't as impressive as I was expecting (my Xperia Pro took pretty damn good photos and sometimes, it was even better than my XP), the dual-core processor didn't blew me away and I'm kinda worried that we won't get an update past 4.1 (which kinda sucks, since I bought the phone 3 months ago).
When I bought XP, I was considering LG L9 (which I still kinda want, save for the ugly design of course) or Galaxy Advance (which was uglier and more expensive). If I get the chance I do would trade my XP for an L9.
But still, I love Sony's UI and apps, so I really never get tired of the phone, and the design will never feel old, nor outdated for me. It can be said that I'm quite happy with the phone, but I still would like to try that L9 phone.
Also, I kinda would like to return to a Galaxy Note (1), while the design is kinda bland, I really would like to experience having a big screen with some few tweaks, besides, I can just install Sony's apps on it.
i am using an xperia sola. i dont really bother about the build design and all but having the latest software means the most to me. its not that sola cant run the latest OS but its the bad chipset with virtually no developer support. So yes 80% i regret buying it. Everytime you buy a new gadget you learn something new. So next time i buy a phone ill ensure the chipset is only from qualcomm.
AW: Do you regret buying your Xperia P?
A clear no
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no ! waiting for JB hehe to be honest just dont like the batter 4hours screen on time with wifi,games but not so heavy , overall performance i like the XP but i want to try xperia Z
Absolutly not, it's my first Androdi Phone but when I compare it with my friends phone, I really prefer mine.
Im already satisfied with my device, but im also worried we wont have an update past 4.1,...i guess this will be the last firmware we'll receive.
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Yes and No, its a sweet phone but i'am not happy with the battery life =\ The screen is god but the reception is not as good as on my HTC One V work phone...
I have rooted it to get rid of all the crapy Sony stuff... next time I think I will buy a Nexus device
Wish I had invested Rs. 7,000 more and bought the Galaxy Nexus
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Wish I had invested Rs. 7,000 more and bought the Galaxy Nexus
XSOLA owner
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+1. maybe a little more RnD on our part and we should have gone for a snapdragon powered phone.
I just didn't think!! Man I was dumb!
Yes.. Poor front camera, few custom roms (didnt release source code) .. I should get samsung s2..
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No 'cause it's better than my former Atrix, it's more smother, more efficient than Moto and is so well build. Imho i will choose once again P. Of course there are better phones but also more expensive than P.
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I just didn't think!! Man I was dumb!
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I dont know about you, but about the time I bought my Xperia U, there was no dual core CPU in the market for the price of the xperia U. I was told the battery lasted about 10 hours and as of now, I'm not disappointed with that claim. Sure, as of now, you have plenty of alternatives for a dual core with those mediatek ones even pumping out quad-core ones [which aren't as far off in benchmarks than our novathor chips].
And to be honest, the only problem I have is not having jelly bean. Then again, if we're being realistic, unless someone bought this phone purely for development [which in that case would be pretty damn dumb and they should have done more research] the phone doesn't falter back. My U satisfies whatever I throw at it at a day to basis [Regular Browser use, music, radio when on stock rom, calling and normal moderate-graphic-intensive-games] I don't see why anybody is complaining. considering the GUI is vitrtually the same as ICS save for project butter [which if you've seen on the xperia J is absolute rubbish]
Just my 2 cents.
EDIT:- Oh and like people have already said before at the price of an Xperia P you will not find the class of build quality observed on any other non-Sony device.
totally regret my xperia p, i live in Canada so i cant really get much for the device over here, plus battery sucks, and yeah kind of sick of messing with my device just so that it will work..its laggy and i should have waited for xperia z or nexus 4, which im probably gonna go get one or the other anyway....so sick of it lol
I dont regret...
I have Lumia 820 and Xperia P.
I bought the XP for 280 USD which is by far cheaper to another phones with the same specs.
Clearly i dont like the battery or the camera (is fine, not great as L820 but who cares)
+1 to that mate i have absolutely no regrets over this phone
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Could have been better, could have been worse
For almost the same price o could have gotten the S2, so a little regret but not too much... it is a good phone
If nexus 4 was out I would've got that, and if I understood the limitations of Novathor might've looked elsewhere. But this is a decent phone for sure, best mid range imo
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