Wondering what everyone's opinion is on which one to get or which one is better, price included etc...
I can imagine that the screen on that thing will be beautiful. Though the small battery concerns me. I have never had good luck with HTC's customization and battery life. How important is the S Pen to you?
I'd have to mess with it but I've had smart phones for years with out a problem but the s pen would probably come in handy
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jackholl92 said:
I'd have to mess with it but I've had smart phones for years with out a problem but the s pen would probably come in handy
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For me, the S Pen and the multi-window feature is the entire reason I am purchasing the phone (It isn't time for my "upgrade" yet). Spec wise it is really kind of a wait and see. I personally like the black and red, but I am not a fan of the glossy black. I prefer the look of the brushed "metal" of the galaxy series.
Has HTC cooked up any compelling software features?
I'm almost positive I'm getting the Note 2, but the HTC DNA is definitely intriguing. I sorta made this pros and cons for myself, it may be helpful to you or others though.
HTC DNA
Pros
Nice build quality from HTC
Very sharp screen with around 440ppi
Aesthetically pleasing (personal opinion of course)
SD Slot (possibly)
S4 Pro
Great camera normally by HTC
Cons
First generation of 1080p screen may have unexpected problems
Battery is on the small side
No multi-window or S-Pen (my 2 main reasons for going for the Note 2)
Non-removable battery (personally I like just having the option to have a spare on hand)
Galaxy Note 2
Pros
Larger screen
S-Pen
Multi-window
Allshare (not sure if HTC has something like this or not)
Removable Battery and SD Card Slot
Exynos 4412
Light weight for such a large phone
Home Button (definitely personal preference, but I like it)
Cons
Home button Verizon branding (can fix however with these,http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-ALUMINUM-HOME-Button-Keyboard-Sticker-f-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-II-N7100-Slv-/121002308301?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1c2c4cb2cd
My brain won't let me think of any other since I've already bought 3 cases and the Allshare Cast Dongle for the Note 2.
I will be going to check out the HTC DNA for sure when it arrives in store either way though.
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i would def choose note 2 over dlx anyway bc bigger screen size s pen although i could care less and removable battery
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I'm almost positive I'm getting the Note 2, but the HTC DNA is definitely intriguing. I sorta made this pros and cons for myself, it may be helpful to you or others though.
HTC DNA
Pros
Nice build quality from HTC
Very sharp screen with around 440ppi
Aesthetically pleasing (personal opinion of course)
SD Slot (possibly)
S4 Pro
Great camera normally by HTC
Cons
First generation of 1080p screen may have unexpected problems
Battery is on the small side
No multi-window or S-Pen (my 2 main reasons for going for the Note 2)
Non-removable battery (personally I like just having the option to have a spare on hand)
Galaxy Note 2
Pros
Larger screen
S-Pen
Multi-window
Allshare (not sure if HTC has something like this or not)
Removable Battery and SD Card Slot
Exynos 4412
Light weight for such a large phone
Home Button (definitely personal preference, but I like it)
Cons
My brain won't let me think of any since I've already bought 3 cases and the Allshare Cast Dongle for the Note 2.
I will be going to check out the HTC DNA for sure when it arrives in store either way though.
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On the list of Cons for Galaxy Note 2 (Verizon)
Locked bootloader (unless someone can crack it or another leak happens)
The Logo on the home button (it may not bother some, but due to the volume of posts I figured it should be mentioned)
SFBPro said:
On the list of Cons for Galaxy Note 2 (Verizon)
Locked bootloader (unless someone can crack it or another leak happens)
The Logo on the home button (it may not bother some, but due to the volume of posts I figured it should be mentioned)
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Oh well I had thought of the locked bootloader, but then thought the HTC DNA's would be locked as well so they sorta cancelled each other out. The home button is a good point since those who don't like would need to get those cover up stickers.
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Oh well I had thought of the locked bootloader, but then thought the HTC DNA's would be locked as well so they sorta cancelled each other out. The home button is a good point since those who don't like would need to get those cover up stickers.
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While the bootloader may be shipped locked on the DNA, at least you could "unlock" it via HTC Dev. I for one am going to try the sugar water method to get rid of the logo.
clemson91 said:
I'm almost positive I'm getting the Note 2, but the HTC DNA is definitely intriguing. I sorta made this pros and cons for myself, it may be helpful to you or others though.
HTC DNA
Pros
Nice build quality from HTC
Very sharp screen with around 440ppi
Aesthetically pleasing (personal opinion of course)
SD Slot (possibly)
S4 Pro
Great camera normally by HTC
Cons
First generation of 1080p screen may have unexpected problems
Battery is on the small side
No multi-window or S-Pen (my 2 main reasons for going for the Note 2)
Non-removable battery (personally I like just having the option to have a spare on hand)
Galaxy Note 2
Pros
Larger screen
S-Pen
Multi-window
Allshare (not sure if HTC has something like this or not)
Removable Battery and SD Card Slot
Exynos 4412
Light weight for such a large phone
Home Button (definitely personal preference, but I like it)
Cons
Home button Verizon branding (can fix however with these,http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-ALUMI...308301?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1c2c4cb2cd
My brain won't let me think of any other since I've already bought 3 cases and the Allshare Cast Dongle for the Note 2.
I will be going to check out the HTC DNA for sure when it arrives in store either way though.
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Thanks that definitely helps I've definitely called Verizon twice to pre-order then I just hung up lol
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Both seem like great devices. I personally don't really care about the s pen, I probably won't use it much. But I do like the multi-window and large battery of the Note 2.
It's the battery that did it for me. I was really excited when I heard rumors that HTC was going to make a note competitor but then when I saw that the battery was only around 2000mah and non-removable that ruined it for me. Plus I kind of see the lower resolution as a plus, I've always gone with the highest resolution I could for computers but when the pixels are as small as they are on this I don't know how much better 1080p can really be but I do know it will be a lot more taxing on the GPU so the note 2 should have better graphics performance.
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It's the battery that did it for me. I was really excited when I heard rumors that HTC was going to make a note competitor but then when I saw that the battery was only around 2000mah and non-removable that ruined it for me. Plus I kind of see the lower resolution as a plus, I've always gone with the highest resolution I could for computers but when the pixels are as small as they are on this I don't know how much better 1080p can really be but I do know it will be a lot more taxing on the GPU so the note 2 should have better graphics performance.
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That makes a lot of sense lol has anyone messed with the Note 2 yet?
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jackholl92 said:
That makes a lot of sense lol has anyone messed with the Note 2 yet?
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I had the t mobile note 2 for a couple days and the only con I have is the physical home button. I really wish it was capacitive. It's kind of a pain to actually click the button when you're holding the phone with one hand because it messes up the balance of the phone in your hand making it feel like it's about to fall.
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I love the phones HTC makes. However reading the 12 page review of the N2 on GSMArena the other really dived into all the extra bits samsung and put into the Galaxy phones and then the note widgets as well. I can see them being very useful.
I like using Google Voice actions in the car, but never in a crowded area, with the S Pen a few swipes and boom a text is sent.
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I love the phones HTC makes. However reading the 12 page review of the N2 on GSMArena the other really dived into all the extra bits samsung and put into the Galaxy phones and then the note widgets as well. I can see them being very useful.
I like using Google Voice actions in the car, but never in a crowded area, with the S Pen a few swipes and boom a text is sent.
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Good point
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SFBPro said:
While the bootloader may be shipped locked on the DNA, at least you could "unlock" it via HTC Dev. I for one am going to try the sugar water method to get rid of the logo.
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And chances are that someone may stumble upon an unlocked bootloader for the Note 2, so how is it any different? There is also no confirmation that it can be unlocked via HTC Dev.
The lack of SD card and too small nonremovable battery leaves out the DNA.
Oh I just thought of probably the biggest reason I'm going for the Note 2 now, and I'll wait for another 1080p device later, nothing will really take advantage of all those pixels, everything is just now starting to work well a 720p. Hopefully more 1080p phones come out over the next year, and then the Note 3 comes with a 1080p screen, so by then more apps will be taking advantage of all those pixels.
If it is true that the DNA/DLX only has a 2000mAh battery (or thereabouts) then that would be a huge con IMO. People complain about battery life all the time, even when they're getting better than average battery life. You're taking a device with a larger screen than a SGS3, plus has twice the CPU cores, and putting the same sized battery in it. For battery life comparisons, I would guess that the DNA will have worse battery life than the SGS3.
While the Note 2 has a HUGE screen and quad core, it also has a huge battery to go with it, and from what I've read, it gets battery life comparable to the SGS3, maybe slightly better, depending on usage. Add in the S-Pen, and you have two major selling points IMO. But, there are always going to be fans of HTC, and Samsung haters. One thing to note is that if both are unlocked, the DNA/DLX is more likely to get AOSP going due to the Snapdragon processor, at least at this point. If Samsung lives up to their word and releases the Exynos sources as requested, that could change.
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My digitizer just died on my HTC One X and bought it out right and looking to get a new phone. I found out I was approved for a concession line at work so I am looking for a new phone on Verizon. The Motorola Maxx HD just came out, the S3 has been out for a while, and the Note 2 just came out. I am trying to decide between each, and are wondering yall’s recommendation. I like the S3 and its size, and how there is a lot of development of it. The Maxx HD has epic batter life and I like the design and materials used and the note 2 I love the screen size. I am trying to decide between which. Give me your comments!
seandidk said:
The Maxx HD has epic batter life and I like the design and materials used and the note 2 I love the screen size. I am trying to decide between which. Give me your comments!
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The Note 2's battery is barely smaller than the Maxx HD, so you'll have close to the same battery life as the Maxx HD.
If you like the screen size and good battery life, the Note 2 is what you want.
-BoneZ- said:
The Note 2's battery is barely smaller than the Maxx HD, so you'll have close to the same battery life as the Maxx HD.
If you like the screen size and good battery life, the Note 2 is what you want.
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Just because the batter is about the same size doesn't mean you'll have the same battery life. The Motorola will likely get better reception on average based on other Motorola phones, and it also has a screen that is almost 1" smaller diagonally, both of which will help the Moto get better battery life.
imnuts said:
Just because the batter is about the same size doesn't mean you'll have the same battery life. The Motorola will likely get better reception on average based on other Motorola phones, and it also has a screen that is almost 1" smaller diagonally, both of which will help the Moto get better battery life.
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Of course the Maxx will have better battery life, that's why I said "close". Reading people's battery usage, it's close enough.
I have the s3 now and its gotta be one of the slickest phones I've ever had. Its quick and smooth and I've had no problems. I ordered the note 2 yesterday because I want that GIGANTIC screen (and all the specs of course) but if the big screen is too much for you IMO id definitely go with the s3 then.
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There's only 2 phones on Verizon I would consider before years end. That is the Note 2 and HTC DNA. I would not get a Razr HD over the S3 and I would not get an S3. The S3 is a good phone but I have a personal policy of getting phones right when they're released. Super phones have such a low life span and when you see the S4 in a few months you will have a feeling of regret. That's why I'm picking the Note 2 because of it's software enhancements, specs, S-Pen, removable battery, sd card and the fact that the phone will not be replaced for at least a year. The HTC DNA sounds good on paper but it's missing a lot of features that the Note 2 has. The Note 2 is the best all around package on the market if size does not bother you.
Note 2! Multiscreen is amazing!
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Signal stuff is just speculation, feel free to ignore that for now. If it's important to you wait and see is the only answer there.
Development is much the same boat, as Note will likely be locked and take a while to resolve that, Maxx is locked, the HTC DNA/DLX will likely be locked...so, yeah, welcome to Verizon. haha.
Personally not a fan of Motorola's design chops so I ruled them out, and waiting to see how the Note/HTC devices look after coming out.
I was set on buying the Note 2, but I have changed my mind and will be buying the HTC DNA because its more powerful, better screen, and unique. It will be nice not seeing every other person using the same phone as me. I am hoping HTC puts in a 2500mah or larger battery. I will be jealous of the Note 2 5.5in screen, but when I am looking at the DNA 5in 440ppi lcd3 screen I will forget all about that extra .5 inches.
Chaoticjerkface said:
I was set on buying the Note 2, but I have changed my mind and will be buying the HTC DNA because its more powerful, better screen, and unique. It will be nice not seeing every other person using the same phone as me. I am hoping HTC puts in a 2500mah or larger battery. I will be jealous of the Note 2 5.5in screen, but when I am looking at the DNA 5in 440ppi lcd3 screen I will forget all about that extra .5 inches.
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Keep in mind that any extra power that the DNA might have is being wasted on the 1080p display, and also that display will send its small battery to hell, and it lacks any S-Pen features. If you're okay with those drawbacks (I assume you're also fine with the non-removable battery/SD card), then go for it.
Personally, the 1080p display isn't worth all of those other problems.
Chaoticjerkface said:
I was set on buying the Note 2, but I have changed my mind and will be buying the HTC DNA because its more powerful, better screen, and unique. It will be nice not seeing every other person using the same phone as me. I am hoping HTC puts in a 2500mah or larger battery. I will be jealous of the Note 2 5.5in screen, but when I am looking at the DNA 5in 440ppi lcd3 screen I will forget all about that extra .5 inches.
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at $300 even with a 2 year contract, you won't be seeing every other person with a gn2. trust.
htc = nice hardware on a undersized battery since forever...
zentech said:
at $300 even with a 2 year contract, you won't be seeing every other person with a gn2. trust.
htc = nice hardware on a undersized battery since forever...
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Between the iPhone 5/S3, I bet you will barely see people with a Note2. Simply put, the Note2 is a niche market.
Don't forget that the note 2 will have potential burn in issues
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I can't decide either...
Note2 - Stupid hard home button...really pisses me off, gNex is so much easier than the gs3,
HTC DNA - Stupid power button on top, are u serious??? Why just why, and HTC battery life....
Cant we see a Nexus Note with soft buttons, and a power button on the side... I would be sold
OneSlickDeal said:
I can't decide either...
Note2 - Stupid hard home button...really pisses me off, gNex is so much easier than the gs3,
HTC DNA - Stupid power button on top, are u serious??? Why just why, and HTC battery life....
Cant we see a Nexus Note with soft buttons, and a power button on the side... I would be sold
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If you really want to pick between these two phones, I would advise trying to distinguish between the other major features of the phones. Do you absolutely need/want the S-pen? Do you want the split screen? Is the .5" too much of a difference to fit in your hand or pocket? Do you like SAMOLED more than SLCD? Do you like Sense over Touchwiz? How big of an issue is the battery to you?
Adapt or die! jk If the power button really bugs you, you could use a flip case and an app that uses the proximity sensor to turn the phone on and off.
Being realistic I highly doubt you will see a new Nexus device on Verizon until engineers get the LTE band issues worked out.
If the on-screen softkeys could be enabled for the SGS3, I'm sure you can do the same thing on the Note 2 if you wanted to.
Chaoticjerkface said:
I was set on buying the Note 2, but I have changed my mind and will be buying the HTC DNA because its more powerful, better screen, and unique. It will be nice not seeing every other person using the same phone as me. I am hoping HTC puts in a 2500mah or larger battery. I will be jealous of the Note 2 5.5in screen, but when I am looking at the DNA 5in 440ppi lcd3 screen I will forget all about that extra .5 inches.
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The screen will be nice on the DNA, but I personally wont be sold unless there are some features unique to the device. While the processor is said to be killer, I have a feeling the screen and Sense may take away from that power, as well as eat up the battery....but thats just my own assumption of course. Personally, the multi-window feature and the S-Pen features make the Note 2 more appealing to me.
Here is my LONG and slightly biased review of the 3 top devices right now.
I had a DNA, Nexus 4, and Note 2 all at the same time and here is a summary of my thoughts on how they compare.
The DNA and Note 2 were my personal phones, the Nexus 4 belonged to my company and was purchased for a tear down analysis. I got to use it for about a week.
I have been following the HTC J Butterfly ever since it was announced in Japan. Although I was 100 percent satisfied with my Note 2, I was quite intrigued with the phone's full 1080 progressive display. So many pixels crammed in 5" of screen real estate must be amazing I figured. I wanted to see if this phone would give me second thoughts and sway me away from my beloved Note 2.
Screen:
1. DNA
2. Note 2
3. Nexus 4
The crown jewel of the HTC DNA is the display, while quite amazing in person, it reminds me a lot of the iPhone 5's Retina display, just bigger. I know the DNA has a much higher ppi density, but in reality you really can't tell the difference once the resolution gets so high in a 4-5" screen. Only situation where I could clearly distinguish the difference was in text, and when zoomed all the way out and the texts are all microscopic but still legible if you put a magnifying glass to it.
The novelty of the 1080P screen wears out QUICK. I showed a few of my co-workers and friends/families and they couldn't really see what the big fuss was all about. They say their iPhone 4S/5 ect. looks the same. Oh well, I should have brought with me a magnifying glass to brag about the difference I suppose. Once the novelty wears off, the beautiful screen becomes more of a curse. A LOT of games/apps don't work right with the 1080p display. I know developers will eventually update their apps, maybe, to support the 1080p resolution but in the meantime it's a waiting game. I hate waiting...and it seems like I'm missing out on a lot of good games and apps while other phones get to enjoy it RIGHT NOW.
Next, The high ppi count combined with HTC sense lags this phone. You can tell it taxes the GPU/CPU pushing all those pixels. If you claim your DNA doesn't lag, then you either don't know what lag is, or never experienced a phone that is lag-free. The iPhone 5 is lag free, the Nexus 4 and Note 2 are "almost" lag free but those two still offer much smoother UI performance as a whole than the DNA.
The Nexus 4 screen is "nice" but it's nothing to write home about, nor is it super uber amazing like some Nexus fans might lead you to believe. The viewing angles and resolution are above average but the color is quite disappointing. Everything looks washed out and drab on the screen next to the DNA and Note 2, no real pop or anything to make it stand out. It reminds me a lot of the display on my LG G2X, just higher resolution.
Note 2's screen, don't be fooled by the "only" 267ppi count. This screen is by far one of the best displays I've seen on a smartphone, and I've had pretty much most all high end smartphones due to the line of work I do and frankly, my addiction. The lame background that Samsung loads on this phone default from the factory does not do the phone justice. I can see how a person would think the screen isn't anything special when they first turn it on. Com'on Samsung, load a high resolution default background to show off that beautiful screen, not some low resolution, plain blue background with a feather in the back.
This display is not like the other Samsung AMOLEDs of the past like the Note 1, Galaxy S, Nexus, Galaxy S3. Those are all Pentile matrix. Those are not comparable to the Note 2's screen.
The Note 2 is an RGB matrix OLED HD NON-PENTILE display, the highest resolution one that Samsung has ever put on a phone. And it's a spectacular display, which blows the other Samsung SuperAMOLED's out of the water. Everything looks sharper on a non-pentile display. Don't be fooled by the ppi count on AMOLED's when comparing pentile to non-pentile, the S3 might have a higher ppi density but the Note 2 offers a superior viewing experience. Text, images, ect. all look much more clear, sharper and cleaner on the Note 2.
It doesn't quite match the DNA's overall brightness and resolution but it's a solid, high resolution beautiful screen. Better than the Nexus 4's screen by far.
Camera:
Camera quality wise I would rank them as follows.
1. Note 2
2. DNA
3. Nexus 4
The Note 2 takes the best pictures in all light conditions, the DNA takes good pictures in good lighting but they produce a LOT of noise and it gets worse as the lighting drops. Noise is very apparent when you blow the picture up to 100 percent crop. The Nexus 4 is last place, I could not take a decent picture with that thing especially low light. The Note 2 takes really high quality pictures without a lot of noise, I am very impressed with it.
Build:
Build quality and feel.
1. Nexus 4
2. DNA
3. Note 2
I got to hand it to LG and Google on the Nexus 4, this thing feels like a million bucks in your hand. Glass front and back, rubber surround between. It just feels very premium. Like German Engineered. =) It just feels really good in your hand. Just don't drop it.
The DNA feels... Japanese. Very well built, gives the impression that it should last for a long time and fare well in drop survival . Doesn't quite match the Nexus for that extra premium feel. Very ergonomic to hold, I think it was my favorite thing about the DNA. It felt really nicely balanced in your hand for it's size.
Sadly the Note 2 feels like a GM product. Plastic, plastic, plastic. Even the simulated metal surround is just painted plastic. Upside is it's relatively light for it's size but don't expect it to have a premium feel to it, it's not bad, it's actually very solid but just not premium feeling like the other two. Feels better in the hand than the Note 1, which was kinda ridiculous and shaped more like a tablet. The Note 2 feels like a phone, just a large one. Not the most comfortable phone to hold for a long time one handed but definitely not that bad.
Software.
1. Note 2
2. Nexus 4
3. DNA
The Note 2 is on a whole different planet when it comes to functionality and software. I know many people scoff at Touchwiz and Sense, or any UI overlay that messes with the pure Android experience. I too was one of those people. My mind was blown when it came to the Note 2. It's been a month since I had my international Note 2, and about a week with my T-Mobile Note 2. I am still finding out new incredible things the software and S-Pen can do on this phone. Touchwiz is truly great on this phone, also it is butter smooth in operation. I can't believe I'm saying this but Touchwiz on the Note 2 makes pure Android 4.2 on the Nexus 4 seem rather lame and boring. It seems like Samsung really took their time, did their homework to really optimize the operation of their UI on this phone. Rooting and Installing custom roms is as easy as they get on the Note 2. Flash 1 simple file, and bam you got a custom recovery. Root and install custom roms and kernels till your hearts desire!
HTC Sense, now this is one beautiful looking UI. Unfortunately DNA is loaded to the gills with bloatware, OMG I've never seen so much bloat on a phone. You can tell the UI really taxes the phone's CPU and GPU. The performance definitely do not match the benchmarks. Don't get me started on unlocking the bootloader on this thing, have you guys seen the instructions? Seems more complicated than brain surgery with the risk of bricking your phone the whole process.
What can I say about the Nexus 4? It has pure 4.2 Android and is very smooth. On par with the Note 2. Pure Android feels sorta naked, with not much stuff to discover. It's plain jane, what pisses me off is Google decided to take out the AOSP browser and made Chrome the default browser. No flash support and performance isn't that great. I'm surprised that Chrome is actually pretty decently smooth on the Nexus 4 but still not as good as the stock AOSP browser. I did not like the on screen buttons which took a lot of screen real estate away.
I always found the S-Pen on the original Note kinda gimmicky, not so much on the Note 2. It is incredibly useful on the Note 2 and I find myself using it ALL THE TIME and I'm not a pen/tablet kinda guy. It's literally 10 times more accurate and functional on the Note 2 loaded with all kinds of great features. Air view is one of them and awesome!
Battery life:
1. Note 2
2. DNA
3. Nexus 4
Okay this is no contest. I am a HEAVY user with a lot of screen on time, I hardly charge my phones. The Note 2 gets me through the day with Heavy Usage, 10+ hours and I still have 25 percent reserve. Same type of usage, the Nexus 4 is dead in 3 1/2 hours flat The DNA is slightly better but still dead in about 4-5 hours of the same type of usage. With light to moderate use, the Note 2 got me through a weekend of camping with no charger in sight, that's with browsing the web, checking email, doing some work related stuff, streaming a few Youtube videos for my daughters. I would never attempt that with any other phone. Impossible with the Nexus or DNA. The Note 2's battery life is simply unbelievable. What's even better than the Note 2's amazing battery life? The ability to carry MORE if needed, since it's removable! The Nexus 4 battery blows! I'm at 60 percent just browsing the web on that thing for 45 minutes, hopefully with the next few updates Google will find a way to make the battery last longer.
Storage:
1. Note 2
2. DNA/Nexus 4
Again, No contest.
I had a 64GB Sandisk from my GS3, popped it into my Note 2 and now I have 80GB of combined storage. It's perfect for putting in literally my whole movie collection and mp3 songs on the go. My daughters could browse through the movie collection and find the ones they want to watch anywhere to keep them quiet, no need to plan ahead and only put in only 1 or 2 choices due to storage limitations. I could carry along more SD cards as I wish, basically limitless storage capacity is priceless to have.
After having owned and used all 3, I returned the DNA pronto.
There is absolutely no device that has satisfied me in all areas like the Note 2, it's basically the Swiss army knife of phones. It's a no contest comparing the DNA or Nexus 4 to the Note 2. They don't stand a chance. This is the ONE and ONLY device that has ever stopped my urge and yearning to try something different because I know there is no other phone out there that can measure up to it. Literally and figuratively.
I wouldn't put the fragile Nexus 4 at the top of build quality when the glass cracks easily. There's even been reports that temperature change (it being warn in your hand and then sat on a counter top) cracks it. Plastic is better build quality because it's built to last.
Thanks.. Well written comparison between the three phones and i think it's fair for the most part.
Highly biased towards the note 2 but that's your opinion
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Unless the DNA overheats or I use chrome, I don't see low framerate. I got it to overheat and used chrome at the same time today.
Wasn't pretty.
I wish people would stop calling low framerate lag. Lag is not even a relevant term.
LOL This sounded like a "Gather around kids, let me tell you about these phones, I had all 3!" "ooohhhhhhh aaaahhhhh"
Seriously though I have to agree with the OP on Touchwiz. I have a Note 10.1 tablet and I had a Galaxy SIII. I traded my S III to my sister for her upgrade so I could get the Note 2 on Verizon when it came out. Got tired of waiting and got the DNA. The DNA is a great phone, don't get me wrong, but after playing around with the S III and the Note 10.1 I found Sense to be just . . . boring. The whole 1080p thing really gets boring quick and I was just left with a skin that doesn't do all that much.
Today a friend was showing me that she bought the S III I recommended her to buy and I was showing her all these little things I liked and I kept having to say "no, my new one doesn't do that... but look at the screen!".
I carry 2 phones with me at all times. My Serious "work" phone (Verizon) because I need a phone that will work wherever I travel and my "Just for fun" phone (T-Mobile prepaid).
There is a lot I do like about the DNA, call quality is great, display really is amazing, I love the looks of it and it just feels reliable. So I made the decision that I'm going to keep the DNA on Verizon and instead I'm going to replace my Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile with the Note 2. I think it makes sense, Verizon is my Reliable line and I think the DNA will be the most reliable PHONE, T-Mobile is my for fun line so I think the Note 2 will be the most fun phablet for it.
That's a whole bunch of hardware to carry around lol.
It really is an addiction LOL, I carry a manbag (IT'S NOT A PURSE!) with my Galaxy Note 10.1 and my Nexus 7 and my Bluetooth keyboard and a bunch of cables and a portable hard drive and chargers and then I carry my 2 phones around and I don't do **** with any of it. It's always a "Just in case" thing. It's that Ti and Ne kicking in.
People always slagged off Touchwiz but I tried Android on a phone in store in 2010 and I hated it, I then decided to go for the iPhone 4. When it came to the GS2 launching I had gotten so fed up of how restrictive IOS is that I sold my iPhone 4 and got the GS2 last year. It was so much better than the Android I used before and I messed around with lots of roms after people saying how stock is much better and I hated it, stock just lacked so many features that TouchWiz had. I also thought the apps Samsung had on the phone all just worked, where the stock apps felt rather dated. Then using the Note 2 in store I just the added functionality of the pen, especially being able to quickly write numbers down while on the phone without having to go through menus. PiP and the multiple windows open is just something I so badly want now and I loved how Samsung have improved TouchWiz so much since the GS2.
I would buy the Note 2 if the specs were more impressive, however the Mali 400 is a real let down, it struggled a bit on the GS2 and it would be even worse on the Note 2.
Though I've tried The Nexus 4 at work as my mate has one and I still think stock Android is **** compared to Touchwiz.
I truly appreciate this, thank you very much! I agree with everything you said as well (as far as the DNA and N2 go, I haven't used the N4). You've made the decision to return the DNA in for the Note 2 that much easier!
DNA has no screen stuttering when navigating the launcher or any of the apps... there will be some moments when its loaded up with apps that ive been using where it might have a very slight stutter but it usually corrects itself ... I personally love sense compared to anything else... the rest of my family all got GS III's and i hate touchwiz so much... the entire UI stutters from opening apps navigating screens and settings.. haven't played with a note II yet so i cant really go into detail with that...
Don't know what your whole family did to their S3's but I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in saying the S3 is quite smooth. Of course its not nexus 4 quick though
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I had the note2 on T-Mobile for two weeks and now the DNA for one week. They are both great phones! Personally I don't care for sense or touchwiz, but then again that's why we are all here....you can get your android os anyway you like. I settled on the DNA because, I have always used HTC, even pre android, and think that they have the finest build quality in the android world. Also the note2 felt just slightly to big.
I think it really comes down to those little personal preferences when dealing with these power house phones! You won't be sorry with any of these.
I really wanted to like the S3, but nothing about it was 'woah' for me. It didn't look that good, and I didn't mind waiting to see what else was around the corner. So I got the DNA, and I'm blown away. I really don't care about comparing Touchwiz vs. Sense vs. Pure Android, because regardless of what skin I have, I'm going to either find an AOSP ROM or I'll be uninstalling all the bloat ware and using a different launcher.
The S3 is a good phone, and I would recommend it, but I love my DNA a lot more. The screen isn't a novelty for me really, its just beautiful and not Pentile.
The note2, I feel like that's not considered on the same category. I've never gotten to play with one, but if we are looking at $200 on contract, DNA is the way to go and not go to up for the Note2.
Pretty insightful, especially since I'm deciding between the DNA and Note 2. I haven't tested either phone in the store yet, but I plan on doing that soon. Swaying to the DNA because of the awesome design (IMHO) and the screen. Note 2 is looking good because of the removable battery and expandable storage. 6+GB of music will fill the DNA FAST since I can't really use cloud storage (NYC subway has no service). I have only 2 problems with the Note 2 from all the videos I've seen: 1. That sore thumb of a logo on the home button 2. Doesn't seem like the S-Pen works with AOSP roms like CM/AOKP/PA, based on what I've seen with the Note. Sort of a problem since I'm sure the S-Pen is a considerable amount of the final cost of the phone.
How clear would you say the screen on the Note 2 is? I've really only experienced the screen on my GNexus and a few of the first Galaxy S phones. I actually love my Nexus's screen, but at 5.5", I can't think of it being as nice.
Talked to a friend of mine who has tested both. He feels the Note 2 is no faster than the DNA even at lower resolution.
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DNA has no screen stuttering when navigating the launcher or any of the apps... there will be some moments when its loaded up with apps that ive been using where it might have a very slight stutter but it usually corrects itself ... I personally love sense compared to anything else... the rest of my family all got GS III's and i hate touchwiz so much... the entire UI stutters from opening apps navigating screens and settings.. haven't played with a note II yet so i cant really go into detail with that...
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I agree here 100% I hated...HATED! Sense on my thunderbolt but this is a whole new sense.. I'd almost venture to say I prefer this newest sense to stock android... Just my input on that
This is very good thread, not biased at all to be honest. I was in love with the DNA display for the first few days, and guess what it wore off, lol. Now I can't tell a difference between 1080p and 720p lol. I now tell people hey you won't be able to tell after 2 days, lol.
I am about to go tomorrow to check out the note 2 and see if the narrow design fits my hands. I might switch it out but I am not going in with the mindset to pick one up, I however will be ready to exchange it if I am impressed. I am really tired of sense I like other launchers and for some reason they don't seem to run as fast on the 1080p screen.
Sense is so unproductive it looks nice but seriously why the hell do I have to go in to settings to change a wallpaper, the long press on home screen just lets you add widgets, so stupid. HTC seems to have made it worse.
I love the DNA but if I am as impressed by the note 2 I might exchange it out tomorrow.
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adrynalyne said:
Talked to a friend of mine who has tested both. He feels the Note 2 is no faster than the DNA even at lower resolution.
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Trust me unless your friend was a robot he wouldn't know. They are both fast phones, if someone says they can see the difference when they use it, they are most likely lying, lol.
I could be wrong but regarding battery category,
Is your Notes 2 using TMobile's network ? since Verizon's Note 2 is only available tomorrow, I guess the Notes 2 you own is GSM version.
Verizon's DNA is running on LTE.
So I would give it some kudos for running on LTE doing the heavy usage you had for 4-5 hours with 2020 mAH battery, (note 2 has a 1.5 bigger battery inside.)
Thanks for the review - and thanks for trying out phones that you know you are going to return. Helps everyone out when our carrier has to handle RMAs for people that want to try phones just to review them.
*sighs*
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I need more excuses to get this phone.. I mainly want it because of the screen size, the S-Pen also looks like (although sort of gimmicky) and the processor/RAM combo.
What do you use the phone most for? What are you most impressed/disappointed with?
Thanks!
So I would stop carrying (and losing) small rite in the rain notebooks around.
I had the DNA. Great phone in its own right. Went to the AT&T store to play with the Note 2 before it came out on Verizon. The only advantage the DNA had was the 1080p screen and it wasn't even that noticeable.. you would really have to try hard to notice the difference.
The larger screen, larger battery, and the better accessory/dev support made it almost a no-brainier to switch. I don't have a large music collection or listen to it much but I know the SD card was a just plus for this phone too vs the DNA.
The S-pen is cool I guess but it really is kind of a gimmick in my mind. Its fun to doodle on sometimes though.
Haloman800 said:
I need more excuses to get this phone.. I mainly want it because of the screen size, the S-Pen also looks like (although sort of gimmicky) and the processor/RAM combo.
What do you use the phone most for? What are you most impressed/disappointed with?
Thanks!
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The s pen, to me, is not a gimmick. I use it for taking notes at work, games, and many other things. The screen and size as you mentioned are good but the antenna is was better than the s3. This phone is screaming fast. The battery is amazing.
I am most impressed with the factions of the s pen. I never thought I would use it as much as I do.
I'm seriously not dissapointed about anything with this phone.
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I bought it for the screen size, battery, and spen...best smart phone ever hands down....GN2>GS3>DNA
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I bought it for the screen size, battery, and spen...best smart phone ever hands down....GN2>GS3>DNA
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That sums it up. Battery was a huge factor for me. I wanted something that would last me through an entire busy day, without having to have a backup battery. The screen is awesome, and the s-pen is finding more and more use everyday.
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Mostly the screen size, but if it had a bad battery or processor I would have gone with the DNA.
I will be getting this phone because it has a purpose. I'm not just getting a great phone, I'm getting a phone that I can draw with. I'm getting a phone I can multitask with. I'm getting a phone I can be productive with.
This is why I prefer the Note 2 over the DNA. The DNA looks sleeker and performs a little better, plus the size is more suited to me. But there's just something... lacking about it. It doesn't have a purpose. It's really a phone designed to be a phone (albeit a good one). Samsung had something more in mind with the Note 2. It's packed with features which, overall, aim towards making you more efficient at getting things done on the go. The DNA is not like that. It was inspired by Ferraris, says HTC, and that's basically what it is. It's a Ferrari, where the Note 2 is more like a pickup. The DNA looks good and performs well, where the Note 2 is just about getting stuff done.
I don't know about you guys, but I like getting stuff done. Note 2, I choose you!
If you call the note 2 a pickup then its a pickup and the motor as a couple of turbos and a shot of nitrous.
I wanted my S3, just more so, and this is it I also noticed once I had a larger phone I was using it more as my de facto tablet when it wasn't handy to have my ipad around. Also, I loved using Android more and more but no android tablet was nearly as good as the phones. Add in an actual digitizer and things really took off.
When the phone was announced I didn't think I'd bother, I thought the screen would be worse and the locked bootloader sucked. The 2nd part is true, but everything else is better than I imagined.
The s-pen is much more than a gimmick. I love it! The "air view" feature is really mouse hover-over functionality.
You can access drop-down menus on websites, get info on all kinds of things You hover the cursor over, not just within Samsung apps but I even just noticed it works in Titanium Backup.
I setup remote desktop to control my PC from anywhere and the s-pen is perfect for this, feels just like using the mouse in the way it behaves and the button works to right-click!
Your Samsung account also gives you Allshare Play which will stream music and video from your computer at home without lag (tried using RDP for this but very laggy)
..and after setting up and messing with all that stuff for hours today and also using multi-view to simultaneously watch YouTube and browse XDA, still 49% battery left!
This thing is a beast. I'm coming from a HTC Thunderbolt though so that may explain my enthusiasm
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I got it for the "my phone is bigger and can beat up your phone" status. haha
Just got the phone today, all I can say is Wow. It's pretty much just a bigger, better version of every other Android phone I've ever owned. it only froze up twice (my fault both times) and everything is just amazing, the screen, the battery (I was coming from a Razr MAXX so this was a concern), I can even see the potential for the S-Pen. This phone is a beast, I have absolutely no compaints.
I had always liked the Note original because of the size. In addition, I can't seem to own a phone for more than a year. I was fast approaching that. But the fact there was multiview, the S-pen, screen size, and processing power trumped my Galaxy Nexus.
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I had always liked the Note original because of the size. In addition, I can't seem to own a phone for more than a year. I was fast approaching that. But the fact there was multiview, the S-pen, screen size, and processing power trumped my Galaxy Nexus.
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Same here. I am a vzw user and droooled over the note. So when I heard this was coming out, I was interested but not sold. I was however sold when I saw how powerful this thing was, and how it is very close to the s3. However, because I do like a new phone every so often, to appease the wife (and because I have to pay retail due to my grandfathered unlimited data plan) I need an AT LEAST 1 year phone, 1.5-2 would be splended. I love bigger screens, dont mind the weight, since my phone is usually docked, and I dont talk for hours on end. The pen, Im not sold on because its real sensitive and seems like a burden but may use it more often if I can get it resolved.
Now hopefully we can unlock the bootloader, and I am yet again, gambling with the fact that I hope updates and custom roms will keep this thing afloat for a while, I know the hardware will keep up.
#1 reason: Battery size. (Life)
#2 reason: The main raw stats; quad-core processor and 2GB of RAM.
I was basically sick of my iPhone and it's little screen and locked OS. I will say it was reliable but too vanilla. I chose the Note 2 because it was faster, bigger screen, expandable memory and customizable. I've had I for about 2 weeks now and though it was a bit of culture shock for the first few days I can tell ya t is an outstanding device...stock. I 've been lurking in the dev forums watching the progress of the root for my VZW n2. Probably gonna root this thing and get even more satisfaction out it.
When I first laid my eyes on the original Note I knew I wanted this style of phone. I was was a big stylus user back in the windows mobile days and the idea of having a precision pointing device was a dream come true within Android. And the people that tell you otherwise are the same folks that prefer a game pad over a mouse and keyboard in a first person shooter; the s-pen is more accurate than my fat fingers. Combine that with the huge beautiful display, speed and Samsung's software enhancements over stock Android it's a winner.
My next option would have been the DNA but that device is just a phone. I want more than a phone with a pretty face.
I was satified with my GS3 until i walked into a Verizon store this week & saw the Note 2 & GS3 sitting side by side & i was like !! Long story short the GS3 is going back this week & the Note 2 is on the way. Plus the battery life is way better on the Note 2.
I haven't decided to buy just yet. I'm waiting to see what happens with the bootloader, and what effect porting cyanogenmod to this device will have on the SPen.
I've been using my Droid X for almost 2 and a half years, and I'm ready to upgrade. Reasons are the specs, the screen size, and the stylus.
I'm not sure I understand all of the comments from people who say the stylus is a gimmick; that's like saying a Wacom tablet is a gimmick. Some of the features that Samsung has built into the device that use the stylus might be gimmicky, but the stylus itself is quite useful for those of us who want a precision pointing device for drawing, note taking, etc.
I just got my G2 3 days ago and I do really like it but after looking at the specs of the Note 3, I'm having second thoughts. I'm a specs guy, that's really all I care about. The best of the best. In the end, should I stay or should I go?
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what exactly does note3 have over the g2? 3gb ram and 4k capture?
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what exactly does note3 have over the g2? 3gb ram and 4k capture?
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Wireless charging for non VZN G2s also
5.7" screen
3,200 mAh battery
S Pen
Micro SD
Removable battery
4.3 out of the box
And what you just pointed out, I made a pro and con list.
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I see far too many people comparing these phones and asking which to get, but in all honesty they are in two different categories.
Either you want a phone, or a phablet... You can't compare the two as they will be two different user experiences.
I just wanna hear your guys opinions!
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I just wanna hear your guys opinions!
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No one has the Note 3, so all you will be getting is opinions of people who haven't even touched the phone yet.
I don't get threads like this, and it's not even posted in the correct forum.
Actually, I think I just made my decision. As long as T-Mobile lets me keep this G2 until the Note 3 gets at my doorstep. I'll do it! I'll have to call them. You guys can still give me your opinions on this factor.
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I think it is interesting that the G2 screen is only 1/10th inch smaller than Note 1.
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I see far too many people comparing these phones and asking which to get, but in all honesty they are in two different categories.
Either you want a phone, or a phablet... You can't compare the two as they will be two different user experiences.
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This.
The Note 3 isnt a phone as much as it is a tablet that can make phone calls. The G2 is a phone and no where near a tablet.
And 4.3 isnt a selling point, IMHO, because there are loopholes that were fixed that make third party dev even harder. Just look at the S4 with ME7 or higher.
So far loving the G2. I considered the Note 3 for about 10 minutes, but its just too big and too expensive for my needs (which are, a phone). I can go buy an N7 and have money left over.
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5.7" screen
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And what you just pointed out, I made a pro and con list.
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oh yes. forgot about that.
i liked my note2 except it was a bit too big and i have gotten to the point i disliked amoled screens now. lol
but besides those two, i enjoyed it very much
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Actually, I think I just made my decision. As long as T-Mobile lets me keep this G2 until the Note 3 gets at my doorstep. I'll do it! I'll have to call them. You guys can still give me your opinions on this factor.
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In the end its your choice, I'm frankly tired and bored of samsungs design. And I despise that front home button lol. But this phone to me hits the sweet spot, the note 3 otoh, also I see the lg's cpu speed is clocked higher out the box I believe.
Note 3
5.95 x 3.12 x 0.33 in 168 g (5.93 oz) <- bad
Lg g2
5.45 x 2.79 x 0.35 in 143 g (5.04 oz) <- good
p.s. The screen too, no contest. Lg's display is beautiful even with that annoying auto brightness issue which will def get fixed soon.
And don't forget about the Note 3's best features.... Lag and stutter. I'm completely done with Samsung until they optimize their software. Get the Note 3 at your own risk. The G2 will end up the better choice imo.
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Amoled
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I'm leaning towards returning this and waiting for the bigger screen.
I think it all depends on what you use your phone for. I do lots of web browsing and watching tv shows. Bigger screen wins.
Note 3 will probably have a lot more development.. it seems to overshadow the G2 right now... must resist canceling G2 order
Even though Samsung burned me with the Galaxy S4, I'm willing to give them a second chance.
I'm a bit skeptical after having two lag fest S4's, I really hope they got the S-Lag ironed out with the N3.
The things that intrigued me with the N3 is the new faux leather plastic back cover, 5.7" screen while being roughly the size of the 5.5" Note 2. It's also rumored to use the AB S800 binned SOC. Higher CPU(2.3GHz) and GPU frequency(550MHz). 4.3 out of the box, most likely better sounding speaker, S-Pen (which I used a lot on my Note 2). Expandable memory and removable battery is also a plus.
The things that I am not too thrilled about is the new pentile matrix display, I guess it wouldn't be so bad at such high pixel density, it didn't bother me too much on my S4 but would prefer a good traditional IPS LCD over any AMOLED. I'm also disappointed it lacks hardware optical image stabilization, I always thought my S4's camera would be amazing if it had included OIS. I also wished Samsung would tone down their gimmicky air gesture ect. bloat crap or better yet not include it at all on their more premium Note line.
I always thought my Note 2 was almost the perfect phone (probably the phone I held onto the longest), just wished it had a higher resolution screen, more ram, capacitive touch buttons that work with the s-pen and a higher resolution camera with OIS. Looked like the N3 addressed *most* of my wishlist, but then again a lot of baggage came along for the ride. I just have my fingers crossed that it doesn't lag down, but then again I don't have high hopes much after using the S4. I swear if it lags I'm going to use an iPhone 5S as my daily.
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Even though Samsung burned me with the Galaxy S4, I'm willing to give them a second chance.
I'm a bit skeptical after having two lag fest S4's, I really hope they got the S-Lag ironed out with the N3.
The things that intrigued me with the N3 is the new faux leather plastic back cover, 5.7" screen while being roughly the size of the 5.5" Note 2. It's also rumored to use the AB S800 binned SOC. Higher CPU(2.3GHz) and GPU frequency(550MHz). 4.3 out of the box, most likely better sounding speaker, S-Pen (which I used a lot on my Note 2). Expandable memory and removable battery is also a plus.
The things that I am not too thrilled about is the new pentile matrix display, I guess it wouldn't be so bad at such high pixel density, it didn't bother me too much on my S4 but would prefer a good traditional IPS LCD over any AMOLED. I'm also disappointed it lacks hardware optical image stabilization, I always thought my S4's camera would be amazing if it had included OIS. I also wished Samsung would tone down their gimmicky air gesture ect. bloat crap or better yet not include it at all on their more premium Note line.
I always thought my Note 2 was almost the perfect phone (probably the phone I held onto the longest), just wished it had a higher resolution screen, more ram, capacitive touch buttons that work with the s-pen and a higher resolution camera with OIS. Looked like the N3 addressed *most* of my wishlist, but then again a lot of baggage came along for the ride. I just have my fingers crossed that it doesn't lag down, but then again I don't have high hopes much after using the S4. I swear if it lags I'm going to use an iPhone 5S as my daily.
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damn.. sounds like u change phones as much as you change underwear (just a little jelly lol)
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damn.. sounds like u change phones as much as you change underwear (just a little jelly lol)
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I'm bad like that too, def agree that Note 2 was the best phone I've had.. if it had 1080p and IR blaster then i would have never got rid of probably
As far as Note 3, i cannot stand the home button any more
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I see far too many people comparing these phones and asking which to get, but in all honesty they are in two different categories.
Either you want a phone, or a phablet... You can't compare the two as they will be two different user experiences.
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That's what I'm saying!
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So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
Better get over it, non-removable batteries seem to be the norm now.
they still make those?
i have not used a phone with a removeable battery in ages! i didnt even know phones were still being made with hot swappable/removable batteries...
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i have not used a phone with a removeable battery in ages! i didnt even know phones were still being made with hot swappable/removable batteries...
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LG V20 had a removable battery, that is the phone I got to replace my Note7.
I just read that the LG V30 doesn't.
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So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
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U sound delusional.. Sorry had to tell you homie..
I think your comments are on point. I came from the note 4 and have exactly the same complaints.
asmd6230 said:
So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
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Not being disrespectful, but since the Note 5 (sealed battery) and Note 7 (non flat screen) we have known that Samsung have changed the design path for the Note series. They only change was to add back SD card storage after the Note 5. Frankly, given that drop in prices of the Note 5, it may be a better option for Note 4 users who don't like the edge screen design. The screen quality of my Note 5 is amazing.
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Not being disrespectful, but since the Note 5 (sealed battery) and Note 7 (non flat screen) we have known that Samsung have changed the design path for the Note series.
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The original poster has known it but doesn't like it.
Seems reasonable to me.
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- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
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This bit I don't understand.
The fact your N4 suffered a charging failure doesn't really support your argument
But you genuinely believe N4 > N8 build quality?
I went from N4 to N7 and was blown away by the improvement. Am still waiting for my pre-ordered N8...
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- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
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Yeah this took a little getting used to. And in my case, having spent the previous four years taking the p*ss out of iPhone owning friends for their not being able to replace batteries, it was humble pie time.
Fast charge really helps soften the blow.
im going along for the ride with this non removable battery thing.
This is my first and probably last. plonking down 1k for phone with obsolesce built it is crazy... i believe the removable battery/sd/user configurable phone will make a come back.
I wanted the best tech of the time... camera etc, but at the same time i also appreciate the value of my dollar. Samsung says the N8 battery will still hold 97% charge after 2 years.. new tech? i dont know and i find this hard to believe. time will tell. Phone is great, the non removable battery thing is what it is.
I would still be using my note 4, its plenty nice enough to do what i need it to do save poor camera performance in low light... and of course its never going to be as snappy as new tech, but it works just fine otherwise. but after several units failed on me, thought id upgrade to the latest and greatest. as i said, N8 is an awesome phone and has improved on the N4. faster performance, better cameras.... supposed to be better everything, not a front camera that takes a narrower picture than the previous one.
stylus on a curved screen makes no sense, Samsung should come out with one with a flat screen for power pen users.
and nobody has mentioned the field of view of the front camera is less than the Note 4. (i went from note 2 to 4 to 8, so i cant comment on the FOV of the front camera of the N5... maybe somebody here with a N5 can chime in?) its a small gripe for most, but for me... i loved the fact i could do a group selfie with my Note 4. am sure i will get used tot he n8... i just cant fathom why Samsung did this.
I-devices never worked for me. coming from Windows CE (how i loved those ipaqs and dopods... ), Android simply worked. shame MS killed of windows CE. MS phones werent all that either... been there and that.
now waiting for a device that will run full win 10 with a stylus and really great cameras!!
Non removable battery, was a trade for waterproofing, my note 5 is still going good, and s7e runs like a champ. Both have non removable batteries.
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"Non removable battery, was a trade for waterproofing, my note 5 is still going good, and s7e runs like a champ. Both have non removable batteries. "
that is good to know. def reassuring.
asmd6230 said:
now waiting for a device that will run full win 10 with a stylus and really great cameras!!
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Hear, hear.
After the way Samsung UK dealt with the N7 recall, I'm just waiting to jump from samsung to any large phone with integrated stylus.
I haven't swapped batteries even in all of the S and Note series devices I've had since the Galaxy S3, even though I had the option. I could care less about swappable batteries.
ReformedAppleFan said:
Hear, hear.
After the way Samsung UK dealt with the N7 recall, I'm just waiting to jump from samsung to any large phone with integrated stylus.
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Does this exist?
hardbrew said:
Does this exist?
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Not that I know of.
asmd6230 said:
So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
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You can go into the camera settings and change the front camera resolution to 16:9 6.0 m. You'll have a wider view, and same goes for the back camera.
Another option while in selfie mode, swipe the screen left to right. Here you have a mode called wide selfie, and others.
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After the v30 opting for non removable battery, the removable battery at a flagship level is dead.
Theres a youtube video of someone showing how to replace the battery. I have done what that guy did on many phones. Never had a problem. Very easy.
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Nope.
I've had Notes since the #2 and am getting the Note 8. In my opinion, it's by far the best phone but from a company that has treated its UK customers with contempt.
Hoping this time next year to see some competition that will mean I don't buy the Note 9...
Replaceable batteries is a thing of the past.
These are sealed devices essentially.
I like it personally. No more detachable backs!
That was one thing that always stood out when it came to iphone build quality feel vs. android.
The latter always felt cheap and creaky. The Note4 was the exception. It did feel solid for having a removable back.
If there is one gripe I have is the omission of the IR Blaster! Loved that feature.
Now, it would appear the only way that will come back is if Apple brings it to their lineup!
The UV sensor on the Note4 was neat too even if it wasn't very accurate.
I don't expect the (Note 8) to be the jump over the S8+ that the Note 7 was over the S7E. But we'll see.