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Here's an interesting problem for everyone to ponder:
My original setup was a stock rom with ryan's lag fix applied. My music played back just fine (WMA and MP3). Since I didn't backup my verizon apps correctly, I recently wiped everything and started over from scratch so I could get the latest update from Verizon. I gained root access again, and now, when I play music through any media player (stock app, winamp, mixZing, pandora, etc), there are noticeable skips in the audio every 15-20 seconds. I realize that pandora may be buffering, but there's no excuse for the others that are reading files from a class 6 microSD card.
Is this happening because I don't have a lagfix applied anymore? If that's the case, then it's incredible disappointing that a phone this powerful needs a hack to make music play back correctly. I don't want to install another lag fix, because, aside from the music, nothing seems to be noticeably slower on the device.
Any ideas?
I'd be interested to hear what solves this, as ever since I upgraded to DJ05 I have had the same audio skips, even on local content.
lowkee said:
I'd be interested to hear what solves this, as ever since I upgraded to DJ05 I have had the same audio skips, even on local content.
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+1 on audio pops
I had audio problems on a lot of the kernels I've tried with this phone, but the jt stable voodoo 5 kernel doesn't have them. I did have them on his 11/25 version, and on still the greeknic versions I've tried.
It's definitely kernel related. I had that problem on geeknik's and jt 11/16. I'm on jt 11/11 now and I'm fine.
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Someone on another forum had this narrowed down to the battery status polling, I think. Can't find the reference now...
Got stock kernal on my phone. No skips. I am rooted. Used to have skips on my last fascinate which I got replaced for the audio skipping problem.
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Voodoo kernels don't seem to have the problem on the non voodoo try bumping min cpu to 200
take off your widgets to make sure it's not something simple. Battery widgets can do this
I did just install a new battery guage widget right around when the pops started... if that's the issue, i'm thanking you in advance. This has been quite annoying. I'll go kill the app for kicks here.
Brilliant!! The battery widget did the trick! For reference, I had the guage battery widget installed. Looked great, but caused the skips. Been listening to VBR MP3 now for 20 min and skips.
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sorry, i meant to say 20 min and no skips
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battery widget
Dittos on the battery widget issue. I was using Circle Battery, killed it and the skipping/popping stopped.
Interesting to know this is the cause of the issue but it's odd that it would cause that to begin with..poorly coded something I suppose.
If anyone's interested, I switched to "Battery Widget" by geekyouup, and it doesn't seem to be causing the pops and skips. Working fine so far.
No battery widgets here. I'm running a fresh StupidFast DJ05 and I'm getting static/popping in doubletwist. Anybody else?
I'm having this problem too, and I'm not running a battery widget. I've only noticed it since I started installing themes. So maybe it's a theme issue? I'm not entirely sure. Also the popping and crackling seem to occur more often when I'm actually doing input and output operations like clicking on apps and whatnot, than when my device is asleep.
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spyd3r05 said:
Voodoo kernels don't seem to have the problem on the non voodoo try bumping min cpu to 200
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This actually seems to work. Weird fix, I must say.
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This is pretty pitiful. This is only Android phone I've had audio skip/pop issues on. It only happens when I'm running SysTray Monitor as my battery% display and my screen is on. If I have my screen off while using SysTray Monitor, it doesn't skip, and if I have SysTray Monitor off, I get no skips.
As soon as I turn my screen on with SysTray Monitor on, it starts skipping. I'm on DJ05
Didn't happen on my Epic, Moment, or Hero.
I definitely would not have marked this as "solved", because this is not a resolution.
it solved my problem, but i'll go ahead and change the title...
Widget size matters too for whatever reason. For me the 2*1 gauge widget did it but the 1*1 didn't
I use Player Pro and Power AMP to play my music and whenever the phone goes in standby the music stutters. I bring the screen up and it plays flawlessly.
Running GeeWiz 2.1 w/KGB1127... also running an Audio manager...
I bumped up the profile in SetCPU from 400/100 to 800/100... and still stutters in standby.
This is with both headsets and Bluetooth setups.
Any ideas? thx
it also does this on CM 7.1 stable w/ Glitch v13 kernel...
anyone?
Well... just in case anyone is interested... I've managed to fix this... kinda.
I used SetCPU, and my screen off profile is 400/100 @ 1050mV
I bumped it up to 400/200
music plays almost flawlessly in screen off mode. Thanks for reading.
Was the music constantly skipping or would it play fine for a while, then skip a little bit? This happens to me with google music on MIUI/Glitch, and I haven't been able to figure out if it's an issue with the app itself or something kernel related I could tweak to eliminate the skipping.
I have the same issue as well. I'm using the MIUI 1.12.23 as well as Glitch v13 kernal. Any ways to fix this? I've tried two different MicroSD cards (8GB class 4 and 32GB class 4) and both had the same issue of music skipping when tracks are changing as well as when I wake the phone up from idle state.
I believe it's a kernel issue. it skipped badly on CM7 and glitch... MIUI is kinda the same i guess. I believe it's tied into the battery drain issue with Wifi, bluetooth, and auto sync on CM7.1. I tried the nightly v112, and still a little drain. had to manually turn off all switches or my battery would be dead in the morning. This "glitch" is the same as whats making the music skip... something is pulling power from the cpu and away from the music player.
I fixed it a little bit... i mean, yeah, it skiped and stopped and wasn't playing right, but i had to bump up the bottom number on my cpu voltage from 100Hz default to 200Hz
This helps... but it still skips a little, but not nearly as bad as before.
i'm running GeeWiz ROM now, which doesn't have the battery drain issue, and it seems to lesson the issue.
mine is a temp fix
Hm, I don't use bluetooth and am not always on wifi, I do have some things set to sync though but still experience the skipping. I also have already tried bumping the minimum frequency up to 200mhz and it didn't seem to make and appreciable difference. Although I'm not sure what it's related to, I'm not 100% that it isn't just the google music app when streaming, but my incredible seemed to play music skip-free in the same situations. I haven't yet tried playing locally stored music to see if the issue's still there.
I'm thinking of maybe trying changing the screenstate scaling settings for the kernel, but wish I knew where the issue stemmed from. Any kernel related adjustments haven't fixed the problem so far.
I don't know what it was but the problem is fixed for me. But I had to do a lot of things to get it working. I went back to stock EH03 Gingerbread. Then flashed to GeeWiz 2.4.2 ...then flashed KGB 1127 Kernel and then flashed the recommended LOGCAT fix. After that I updated all of my apps from the market that I could. Got rid of all the apps that suck major cpu usage like Facebook and PowerAmp music player. I switched to PlayerPro music player... Then I used Titanium backup to uninstall all stock music players...
I'm pretty noob at this so I wasn't sure if uninstalling stock apps would work but its good to go. I uninstalled the stock pic gallery as well... All is well... Plays music flawlessly now.
So idk if it was any or all I did but it worked. Seems like it was either apps stealing power or switch bugs in the other roms. But I'm loving GeeWiz 2.4.2 w/KGB 1127 Kernel with the Logcat fix.
Like I said... I'm noob at this so when in doubt... Start over.
Hope that helps.
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I forgot to mention that I updated my recovery to CWM3 Voodoo Blue... That I believe was a smart move. GeeWee recivery is fine, but hard to root with... And CWM recovery.all which is 2.5 something has always been flakey for me. I think i'm pretty content finally. Lots of flashing... Ugh
CWM3 Voodoo Blue Recovery
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I updated the radio to EC09 and tried different SD cards but got the same issue. I flashed back to stock and flashed KANG version of CM7. Both the stock music player and PowerAMP don't skip when I change tracks or wake the phone up from sleep. Has anyone tried the latest version of MIUI (2.1.6)? Do music tracks skip when changing tracks or waking from sleep?
Can anybody recommend another kernal to use with 2.1.6 MIUI rom that remedies the issue with music skipping?
What class SD cards are you guys using? I have no problems but I use a class 10 card. When I asked my wife how her fully stock Fascinate player works, she had complaints much like yours. I put my SD card in her phone and it played for 2 hours without issue. Her card is the one that came with the phone, a class 2. She also showed me video recording had problems which were also resolved with the class 10 card.
Now I need to know how to get my card back from her - lol.
I don't really keep music on my SD card, I stream it using google music and that's where the skipping happens for me so it's not the SD card. It does it even when the song is fully buffered, so it's not necessarily a connection/data issue either. It's like the music player isn't properly kept in the foreground and the music skips while the phone is "thinking" - doing other things in the background.
Topic: Audio Problems and Solutions
For testing purposes, I will be using CM7 as the ROM for testing; although stated throughout I have not had the audio issues others are stating unless noted why(HEAVY USAGE). Also, I will not have any MODS or Personal Hacks overlaying the out-of-box CM7! That means no zep scripts, no speedy scripts, no other personal mods other than what you get from a stock CM7 flash. No ATKs and no Memory Optimizer apps. Power Mode is set to Performance, although Power Saving has never caused issues in the past. It is IMPERATIVE that you state ANY personal MODs over any ROM that you choose to use for me to help you!
This thread is going to cover the audio issues users are having with the Droid x2. This means popping sounds, no sound, sound too loud, static noises, random mutes, etc. ANYTHING that deals with audio issues for the Droid x2!
I have had the Droid x2 since its release, and I have yet to have any of the symptoms above, let alone ANY audio issues other than random bluetooth disconnects with my car's stereo system. I isolated the issue with that and the problem has been "solved" as of me writing this. But the issues I see users having deals with audio stuttering or lagging as the user is trying to listen to music.
Now, for me to try and help you, and others I'm sure, I need you to fill out a form and post it at the beginning of your post. It should look like this:
Device: Milestone x2/Droid x2
ROM: GBP7/Eclipse/Molten/Liberty/Etc. (Also, Provide the specific version "GBP7 v.5"
Android Version: This will be kernel version, android version, etc. go to About Phone to acquire.
Audio Software: Google Music, WinAMP, PowerAMP, etc.
Audio Enhancers: DSP Manager or any of the like to change the "normal" output of the device.
Init Scripts and personal mods: Please upload the scripts and explain all mods you did that are not posted in the x2 dev section.
Sound Output: Stock Speaker, Line Out Speakers, Ear Plugs, BT Headset, BT Speakers, etc.
SD Card Info: SD Card size, how much space is used and free, and SD Class(The class is the small number in the circle of your SD card)
Symptom: What the issue is.
Then give a DETAILED description of what you problem is, what you have tried to do to solve the issue, ANY INFORMATION that you feel would be relevant to the problem, POST IT! I don't have your specific handset and I see posts of several users stating they are having issues, yet I have never experienced any of the common problems. This is not denying that the problems don't exist, but I'm trying to help, and I will need to know as much as possible.
*Try to get me average free ram and cpu usage if you can. Look up an app called seepu by Latedroid in the market, the free version should suffice.
Further Testing:
-Before trying to apply one of the fixes, try these instructions before proceeding. With some devices having issues and others not, we need to isolate the cause of this issues. This will help more with the research.
Post #33: CPU Monitoring
Possible Fixes:
DISCLAIMER: These may or may not work, you should know what you are doing before venturing too far on your own.
Thanks to Ash for these:
Post #44: Editing init scripts.
Post #50: Another init edit.
Peperm1nt said:
Topic: Audio Problems and Solutions
This thread is going to cover the audio issues users are having with the Droid x2. This means popping sounds, no sound, sound too loud, static noises, random mutes, etc. ANYTHING that deals with audio issues for the Droid x2!
I have had the Droid x2 since its release, and I have yet to have any of the symptoms above, let alone ANY audio issues other than random bluetooth disconnects with my car's stereo system. I isolated the issue with that and the problem has been "solved" as of me writing this. But the issues I see users having deals with audio stuttering or lagging as the user is trying to listen to music.
Now, for me to try and help you, and others I'm sure, I need you to fill out a form and post it at the beginning of your post. It should look like this:
Device: Milestone x2/Droid x2
ROM: GBP7/Eclipse/Molten/Liberty/Etc. (Also, Provide the specific version "GBP7 v.5"
Android Version: This will be kernel version, android version, etc. go to About Phone to acquire.
Audio Software: Google Music, WinAMP, PowerAMP, etc.
Audio Enhancers: DSP Manager or any of the like to change the "normal" output of the device.
Sound Output: Stock Speaker, Line Out Speakers, Ear Plugs, BT Headset, BT Speakers, etc.
SD Card Info: SD Card size, how much space is used and free, and SD Class(The class is the small number in the circle of your SD card)
Symptom: What the issue is.
Then give a DETAILED description of what you problem is, what you have tried to do to solve the issue, ANY INFORMATION that you feel would be relevant to the problem, POST IT! I don't have your specific handset and I see posts of several users stating they are having issues, yet I have never experienced any of the common problems. This is not denying that the problems don't exist, but I'm trying to help, and I will need to know as much as possible.
*Try to get me average free ram and cpu usage if you can. Look up an app called seepu by Latedroid in the market, the free version should suffice.
Known Solutions:
-This will be filled in as problems are fixed.
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Device droid x2
Rom: stock rooted and still bloat
Android ver: 2.3.5 build 412 kernal 0007
Audio enhancers: none
Sound: earphones, speakers
Sdcard:16gb class 10, 4gb free
Symptom: through music player for mp3 stored on phone popping, skipping.
Solution: not really a solution but more of a way to mitigate it to a low number of times. Currently only happens about 3 times per 105ish songs on stock player.
-First be on android 2.3.5 build 412.
-V6 supercharger update 8 option 9 then option 12.
-Setcpu or init.d cpu script keep a high of 1ghz and low of 608mhz.
-get v6noop.sh and run it with script manager.
-use naven's inithack v0.6
Those steps get rid of the pop and considerably cuts the skipping down. I noticed that once the cpu falls under 608 thats when the chances of music skipping will happen. And not so much as availible ram. I had as low as 59mb free of ram with out a skip but as soon as the cpu falls under 608 the chance of skipping will happen.
This method gets a good result with stock bloated and without poweramp high buffer. Heck i needed eclipse and all that with power amp on 2.3.4 and the results still wasnt as good as it with 2.3.5. Skipped every 6-8 songs per 80 with said method on 2.3.4.
Thats why i refuse to use any rom based on 2.3.4.
Oh btw forgot to mentioned that i have my music on the phone itself since my sdcard is known to fail on me (and if it does you can't do anything really with your phone if you have sd flipflop enabled learned that the hard way).
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So, is the problem still going on? If so is it every 105ish songs? Or where you providing an answer?
I'm just mentioning this as an aside, but this is my second Dx2, it's a refurb. The reason I had to do a warranty call was because the headphone jack stopped playing music probably. By this I mean that the headphone jack wouldn't play because the connection between the jack and the motherboard was faulty. Hardware failure. Well now guess what, the same thing has happened to this refurb they gave me when I called my warranty. I'm not being abusive to this phone, all I'm doing is plugging in the earphones. This is the second Dx2 I've broken in the exact same way. Honestly I think it's because the dx2 is a pos, and the abused child workers in China making this aren't putting enough saughter on the headphone jack. So now I have to sbf back to stock yet again and do a warranty call.
But yeah, I'm just complaining and telling of my experience. I don't get skips on audio very often anymore. Eclipse mostly fixed that.
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I have had no issues with my headphone jack, has the phone since they came out, use headphones many times daily.
As for the skipping, one can try a faster SD card if your music is on the external SD card.
My skipping was fixed when I installed Player Pro, so I think it is an issue with the Android player itself.
Nevermind
Ignore this
y0himba said:
I have had no issues with my headphone jack, has the phone since they came out, use headphones many times daily.
As for the skipping, one can try a faster SD card if your music is on the external SD card.
My skipping was fixed when I installed Player Pro, so I think it is an issue with the Android player itself.
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I currently use PowerAMP because it has gapless playback and crossfading. I didn't see on the Android Market description that PlayerPro has gapless playback. Does it? Reason I ask is even with PowerAMP, I get the occasional skip, but not much. Just curious.
Thanks!
If I heavily multi task..I get skips....but like stated HEAVY MULTITASKING
Tapin the Talk on the xSquared
Ihatepullups said:
I'm just mentioning this as an aside, but this is my second Dx2, it's a refurb. The reason I had to do a warranty call was because the headphone jack stopped playing music probably. By this I mean that the headphone jack wouldn't play because the connection between the jack and the motherboard was faulty. Hardware failure. Well now guess what, the same thing has happened to this refurb they gave me when I called my warranty. I'm not being abusive to this phone, all I'm doing is plugging in the earphones. This is the second Dx2 I've broken in the exact same way. Honestly I think it's because the dx2 is a pos, and the abused child workers in China making this aren't putting enough saughter on the headphone jack. So now I have to sbf back to stock yet again and do a warranty call.
But yeah, I'm just complaining and telling of my experience. I don't get skips on audio very often anymore. Eclipse mostly fixed that.
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I have the same issue with my headphone jack, any slight movement of the headphones and it turns off the music app, it's really annoying. I sent my original X2 for a refurbished one and it does the same. I pretty much gave up on that but I'm able to listen to it if i place it just right with no movement and i hold it in my jacket pocket upright.
I never get skips. No matter how hard I multitask. Frankly I'm suspicious that all of the scripts everyone runs are part of the problem. The only time I've had issues with skipping or redraws or anything memory related was running v6 or speedy. My phone ran like a hot piece of **** with speedy on stock. Well except for on startup but after about 8 hours I would need a reboot. Stock Eclipse v1.3 with the mashup build.prop has given me the best performance all around.
But I'm not an Android dev. Just a casual observer.
Sent from my Eclipsed and ICS themed X2.
Peperm1nt said:
So, is the problem still going on? If so is it every 105ish songs? Or where you providing an answer?
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Sorry i was providing both. Its on going but has been subdued to that extent. When i was on 2.2.2 - 2.3.4 it skipped and popped constantly even on eclipse (up to the last one that was for 2.3.4) and the best i could get was on 6-10 songs would skip per 80 songs and popped a lot and that was using v6 supercharger and powramp high buffer. So with the method i put its all free apps and knocks it down to 3-5 songs every 105 (thats about how long one of my playlist is). With out them pops skips on almost every single song. So yes this is a mitigate solution not a permanent fix solution.
So if your phone skips constantly then try what i did and see if it helps.
Sent from my DROID X2 using XDA App
T3HBR1AN said:
I never get skips. No matter how hard I multitask. Frankly I'm suspicious that all of the scripts everyone runs are part of the problem. The only time I've had issues with skipping or redraws or anything memory related was running v6 or speedy. My phone ran like a hot piece of **** with speedy on stock. Well except for on startup but after about 8 hours I would need a reboot. Stock Eclipse v1.3 with the mashup build.prop has given me the best performance all around.
But I'm not an Android dev. Just a casual observer.
Sent from my Eclipsed and ICS themed X2.
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This would have a factor in the skipping of music because the CPU would drop or overload at random times. I personally have never had the skips except with the heavy HEAVY multitasking like stated earier, even on stock 2.2.2 til 2.3.5. The goal here is to isolate what the user is doing while the music is playing. I'm almost positive 90% of the issues are scripts or playing texas holdem or a tegra game or something while listening to music.
I listen to music for several hours every day at work. It skips on the stock rom, Molten, Liberty, and Eclipse roms. And that's with no multitasking since I'm working and can't sit there playing with my phone. Both stored and streaming music have always skipped since I got this phone. I even tried increasing the minimum cpu speed to 600mhz like someone else suggested, but that had no affect. The only way that I have been able to stop it is with option 9 in the V6 script.
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Firstly, I am envious of Pepperm1nt and others who don't experience any music stuttering, you lucky chaps. I guess you guys were really lucky to get a good bug-free phone on purchase.
I for one do experience music stuttering.
Device: Droid x2
ROM: Liberty
Android Version: 2.3.4
Audio Software: Google Music
Audio Enhancers: DSP Manager with Bass and Equalizer turned on
Sound Output: Ear phones
SD Card Info:32 GB Sandisk class 4 SD card (I also had a generic 8 GB class 4 SD card before). About 8 GB free.
Symptoms: When I listen to music, I sometimes experience music stutters. I can't remember clearly, but I think I don't get (or at least only rarely get) sound stutters when I am doing nothing on the phone. On occasion, music stutters when I turn off the display and sometimes when I am browsing the web on the phone. A couple of sure shot ways to cause music to stutter is by going into Settings>Applications>Manage Applications. This causes the Settings app to load all the currently installed apps and this takes some processing and causes a LOT of music stutters.
I also noted that music stuttering increases if I use the DSP manager settings. Also, it is worth pointing out that the amount of multitasking doesn't really matter because I experience music stuttering even on relatively mild to no multitasking..
Is it possible that there is a hardware bug on some (or many) of the Droid X2's and some people (like pepperm1nt) were just lucky to get a phone that didn't have those bugs and are not experiencing any music stuttering (or at least experiencing a lot less stuttering than others)?
Also, I was wondering if using CM7 that dragonzkiller released might help alleviate or even cure this problem? Is it possible and did someone try to check?
litetaker said:
Also, I was wondering if using CM7 that dragonzkiller released might help alleviate or even cure this problem? Is it possible and did someone try to check?
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I haven't tried CM7 yet and I won't until it can read the external SD card, since that is where my music and my apps are at.
But, reports from people who have put it on their phones have been that the ROM is very fast. I would hope so with all the BLUR removed and it being a pure AOSP image.
But, as for now, if I don't use the V6 scripts, then my music stuttering on stock is pretty bad, even when I'm not multitasking anything. Although, I am running Juice Defender, so that might have something to do with it as well.
Still, even on my old LG Vortex (ARM6, 600mhz), music stuttering never occurred when I wasn't doing anything else on it, and then even if I was playing a game, it was rare, but it would happen.
iBolski said:
I haven't tried CM7 yet and I won't until it can read the external SD card, since that is where my music and my apps are at.
But, reports from people who have put it on their phones have been that the ROM is very fast. I would hope so with all the BLUR removed and it being a pure AOSP image.
But, as for now, if I don't use the V6 scripts, then my music stuttering on stock is pretty bad, even when I'm not multitasking anything. Although, I am running Juice Defender, so that might have something to do with it as well.
Still, even on my old LG Vortex (ARM6, 600mhz), music stuttering never occurred when I wasn't doing anything else on it, and then even if I was playing a game, it was rare, but it would happen.
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Even I am holding back from flashing CM7 until the External SD card is working as that is where all my music and a lot of my media is. Also, I don't have so severe music stuttering issues on stock though.
Question... What personal mods have you made (anything that is not posted in the x2 Dev secton)? Also, upload your init scripts if you don't mind.Ima update the OP
Tapin the Talk on the xSquared
It might be worth it to note that there are different versions of the droid x2. If you pull out the battery you can see it listed. It starts SJUG. Maybe some of these problems only exist on certain revisions ( I believe there are only 2 versions).
Audio codec problem
I think this is on topic relative to the nature of this thread.
I work in a corporate environment, in a manner of speaking. We use M$ Exchange for emails. We also use IP Office and voicemails are sent to email as attachments.
I cannot play the email attachment with either the standard player or with WinAmp. I can play them with RemoteWave but even then they are somewhat scratchy.
I am running a rooted stock 2.3.4 with bloat apps frozen with no addons/scripts/roms.
Previously, I had read that the codec used is the problem and that certain Android builds on ceraton devices have problems. This goes back to my initial Froyo build on this phone (acquired in Jul '10).
zeb carter said:
I think this is on topic relative to the nature of this thread.
I work in a corporate environment, in a manner of speaking. We use M$ Exchange for emails. We also use IP Office and voicemails are sent to email as attachments.
I cannot play the email attachment with either the standard player or with WinAmp. I can play them with RemoteWave but even then they are somewhat scratchy.
I am running a rooted stock 2.3.4 with bloat apps frozen with no addons/scripts/roms.
Previously, I had read that the codec used is the problem and that certain Android builds on ceraton devices have problems. This goes back to my initial Froyo build on this phone (acquired in Jul '10).
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Go get MX video player from market
it will also have you download the armv7 coded needed to use the.player
I have had no problems...even able to view .avi and mkv files...ANY file I've come across has been viewable with this player....
Oh...and its free ..
A bit off topic lol
Now back on topic
I wonder what these different "versions" mentioned could be why there is so many different issues with not only music skips but why it seems so many issues are inconsistent here.
Not an unusual problem by the looks of it but sooooo annoying and soooo many options to try and fix the problem.
(edit - just to clarify, its more of a skidding than a skipping - the sound/rhythm is stretched and short of shudders like when a CPU is under-load with other apps running, but I've currently got over 100MB at idle.)
I've read the following forum which has so many options in it and a lot of good info so I'm going to slowly work through a few of the options with my Xperia and see what might solve the skipping issue.
http://androidforums.com/incredible-support-troubleshooting/72913-music-player-skipping-cause.html
I initially started using the stock player that came with the Neo and noticed it skipping every now and then but then yesterday when coming home from a music festival with a few new albums it came to time to STOP the skipping.
I always copy files from original CD's at the highest quality and then drag and drop them directly into the folder on the SD card to cut out any other application adding its musical interpretation into the tracks with missed data and timing etc (this is a practice I started years ago so hopefully the tracks are the best they can be)
So from here I start fiddling with the device......
1) I noticed that I dont get any skipping when using ES File Explorer to play the files but the problem ES File explorer is that it doesn't appear to have a shortcut directly to its media player and I dont want to have to go hunting for files EVERY time I want to play music.
2) So now I've started Meridian just as a test and it definately made an improvement = less skipping but still some
3) So I"ve moved Meridian to System App as suggested in the Forum and I'm running the player and keeping a close ear on it to see if it skips.
If it does the next step will be to start using "AnTuTu CPU Master Free" and setting it to start from boot and set it to raise the minimum processor level to around 400 MHz
If anybody who actually knows about this stuff has any ideas I'd be interested in hearing them.
I dont know why EX file explorer plays the files better than anything else I've tried - I have made it a system (ages ago) but I would also like to know what it uses for media playing? is it using its own complete of settings or whatevers? or is it piggy backing off the standard player? If I uninstall the standard player will ES still work?
If ES is using its own settings - how does it take control of things so well that the skipping stops?
What other media players take majority of control and ----------dam it just skipped, so I'm rewinding to see if its the track.............nope---------(ok onto the next plan and increasing processor idle speed.
4) Increased Idle speed to as close to 400 as I can and 3 min later - still skipping! c##p
Now what? I'm going to go away and think about this some more - if anyone has any ideas please let me know.
I'm trying to replicate your fault but so far its been playing pretty well, Havn't noticed any skipping, stutters or whatever for the last hour or so.. I did notice a slight jitter when I first started up the music player (Stock) but that was just on startup.. now its rock solid.
you might have some service/App running in the background thats causing some CPU strain or memory hogging momentarily.. I would suggest checking your logcat either with adb terminal or an app that can show you your logcat. check this to see if your getting any low memory warnings or any other errors.
I'll start up a bunch of services and apps and see if I can get my music to skip, Ill also search my music collection for the highest bitrate files I can find (might be that I just use lower bitrate MP3's and so they don't strain the RAM and CPU as much as your high bitrate ones)
I'll let you know if I can get my music skipping like yours.
Kiwi
I've experienced this before, turns out it was the SD Speed Increase app settings that was causing the trouble. Apparently, if I change the setting to anything other than the stock (128 [bytes allocation unit?]), my music would randomly stutter/skid. Left it to stock and never installed it again. I hope this helps.
I've had it too, using UberMusic and CPU Tuner. The problem is not the minimum cpu speed, because the cpu will be running full speed when the screen is on (or more than the minumum). With the screen off profile, my cpu is running at 122MHz, and still no stuttering.
I think the problem is caused by low RAM. Uninstall any unneccesary app and try if the problem persists when you're not multitasking.
I've experienced the same problem a few times using stock music player.. but recently I downloaded google music and never experienced it again... you might want to try this app since it's made by google and ui design is awesome!(ics like)
I've been listening to music for 3 straight hours now, I've managed to get it to stutter twice, once opening a news app (CPU strain while updating web pages?) and once when I opened a file explorer (I repeated that action several times since and couldn't get it to repeat the fault) logcat on both occasions mentioned an error: DMAMISSED 32 for the audio driver. In computer terms DMA means "direct memory access" or the newer version Ultra DMA. this is a little chip that accesses external memory (firstly directed by the CPU but then it frees the CPU up to do other stuff while its reading away, kinda like having a second cpu just for reading your music, but it still needs to get commands from the CPU) and I'm guessing that the missed 32 error is the DMA not getting the message from the CPU in time, perhaps the CPU is busy with something else? or whatever, I'm going to suggest running lower bitrate mp3's and see if it still stutters as much (if at all) try ripping a cd at or under 192kbps stereo or even 128kbps.. What bitrate are you running now? 320kbps? Or variable bitrate? Still not sure if its the problem but would help to eliminate it.
DMA Errors could also be caused by an SD card fault.. might be worth trying another card and seeing if it stutters.
Kiwi
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buzzzy said:
I've experienced the same problem a few times using stock music player.. but recently I downloaded google music and never experienced it again... you might want to try this app since it's made by google and ui design is awesome!(ics like)
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Bummer this player aint available for NEO.......
kiwiBratwurst said:
I've been listening to music for 3 straight hours now, I've managed to get it to stutter twice, once opening a news app (CPU strain while updating web pages?) and once when I opened a file explorer (I repeated that action several times since and couldn't get it to repeat the fault) logcat on both occasions mentioned an error: DMAMISSED 32 for the audio driver. In computer terms DMA means "direct memory access" or the newer version Ultra DMA. this is a little chip that accesses external memory (firstly directed by the CPU but then it frees the CPU up to do other stuff while its reading away, kinda like having a second cpu just for reading your music, but it still needs to get commands from the CPU) and I'm guessing that the missed 32 error is the DMA not getting the message from the CPU in time, perhaps the CPU is busy with something else? or whatever, I'm going to suggest running lower bitrate mp3's and see if it still stutters as much (if at all) try ripping a cd at or under 192kbps stereo or even 128kbps.. What bitrate are you running now? 320kbps? Or variable bitrate? Still not sure if its the problem but would help to eliminate it.
DMA Errors could also be caused by an SD card fault.. might be worth trying another card and seeing if it stutters.
Kiwi
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I wouldn't have a clue about this bit-rate thing your talking about - how do I check this?
I've also stopped using the CPU minimum speed thing because I think it caused my phone to totally crash and not display any menu's at all - so had to re-install from clockwork mod boot.
When I'm listening to music I'm not ever doing anything in the background with the phone - it just sits on the table or on the seat of the car - this is when it skips.
kiwiBratwurst said:
I've been listening to music for 3 straight hours now, I've managed to get it to stutter twice, once opening a news app (CPU strain while updating web pages?) and once when I opened a file explorer (I repeated that action several times since and couldn't get it to repeat the fault) logcat on both occasions mentioned an error: DMAMISSED 32 for the audio driver. In computer terms DMA means "direct memory access" or the newer version Ultra DMA. this is a little chip that accesses external memory (firstly directed by the CPU but then it frees the CPU up to do other stuff while its reading away, kinda like having a second cpu just for reading your music, but it still needs to get commands from the CPU) and I'm guessing that the missed 32 error is the DMA not getting the message from the CPU in time, perhaps the CPU is busy with something else? or whatever, I'm going to suggest running lower bitrate mp3's and see if it still stutters as much (if at all) try ripping a cd at or under 192kbps stereo or even 128kbps.. What bitrate are you running now? 320kbps? Or variable bitrate? Still not sure if its the problem but would help to eliminate it.
DMA Errors could also be caused by an SD card fault.. might be worth trying another card and seeing if it stutters.
Kiwi
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Are you saying my music is too high a quality?
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I've had it too, using UberMusic and CPU Tuner. The problem is not the minimum cpu speed, because the cpu will be running full speed when the screen is on (or more than the minumum). With the screen off profile, my cpu is running at 122MHz, and still no stuttering.
I think the problem is caused by low RAM. Uninstall any unneccesary app and try if the problem persists when you're not multitasking.
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thanks for the feedback - currently I have 61 mB free on ROM and 86 MB internal and then 1.37 GB on SD. Also I'm not doing anything else with the phone when the skidding occurs.
breakfastdude said:
I've experienced this before, turns out it was the SD Speed Increase app settings that was causing the trouble. Apparently, if I change the setting to anything other than the stock (128 [bytes allocation unit?]), my music would randomly stutter/skid. Left it to stock and never installed it again. I hope this helps.
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I will try this! I have one of these running.........
kiwiBratwurst said:
I've been listening to music for 3 straight hours now, I've managed to get it to stutter twice, once opening a news app (CPU strain while updating web pages?) and once when I opened a file explorer (I repeated that action several times since and couldn't get it to repeat the fault) logcat on both occasions mentioned an error: DMAMISSED 32 for the audio driver. In computer terms DMA means "direct memory access" or the newer version Ultra DMA. this is a little chip that accesses external memory (firstly directed by the CPU but then it frees the CPU up to do other stuff while its reading away, kinda like having a second cpu just for reading your music, but it still needs to get commands from the CPU) and I'm guessing that the missed 32 error is the DMA not getting the message from the CPU in time, perhaps the CPU is busy with something else? or whatever, I'm going to suggest running lower bitrate mp3's and see if it still stutters as much (if at all) try ripping a cd at or under 192kbps stereo or even 128kbps.. What bitrate are you running now? 320kbps? Or variable bitrate? Still not sure if its the problem but would help to eliminate it.
DMA Errors could also be caused by an SD card fault.. might be worth trying another card and seeing if it stutters.
Kiwi
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Situation summary..............
1) Minimum processor speed app removed due to possible fatal error and notes above suggesting no difference (which is what I thought also).
2) SD speed increase app removed
3) Still running Meridian player due to user friendliness and less skidding - (might go back to stock app to help create more skidding so I can isolate the problem.
4) Track bit-rates might be too high - I will try this as a last resort once I've tried the other options.
5) Try another SD card - hmmm maybe I'll try this another day when I've got some spare cash
In my case, the track bit rates aren't a problem since I often have 320kbps and variable bit rate mp3 files being played in the stock music player and I experience no jitter/skidding.
Ok -
* Instant skidding using Stock Media player with "SD speed increase" app uninstalled.
I'm also running
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.freeb.automm
Would this cause skidding?
Now I'm going to re-rip the CD I'm listening to at a lower rate and see how that goes.
----right I've done that and also realized that when I put the original music files on my phone I hadn't converted them from WAV to MP3 so they were huge files. I've now re-ripped the cd in WAV and then converted the files to MP3 so now the files are approx 3 MB instead of 30 MB.
So now I will play them on the stock player and see how they respond.
that has been happening to me ever since i updated to .42 and i didnt know whether it was because i was fiddling with the phone (rooting, installing ics them which .62 reset to SE GRRR ) or whether it was just the amount of music and i had recently added Kasabians new album Velociraptor .. it was really ("was" hehe) especially because i would play it in the car connecting it to a jack lead on my radio .. and it was driving (no pun intended lol) me mad .. but then today i found my mini mp3 dock and though id plug it in and whack a few songs Foo Fighters and the like .. and I swear it didnt jump/skid/skip/slip once .. it was perfect .. and this was all before i updated to .62 about 10mins ago .. hopefully its all ok .. gotta check and make sure its still rooted
anyway thats my version of events .. peace out
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Bummer this player aint available for NEO.......
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It is dude!
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hilfordjames said:
Bummer this player aint available for NEO.......
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Search for 'google music apk'
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It is dude!
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Well I wish I could find it - all it says is.............
"This app is incompatible with your 2degrees Sony Ericsson MT15i."
https://market.android.com/details?...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5nb29nbGUuYW5kcm9pZC5tdXNpYyJd
Maybe you can be more specific about what app your talking about...?
bassybekx said:
that has been happening to me ever since i updated to .42 and i didnt know whether it was because i was fiddling with the phone (rooting, installing ics them which .62 reset to SE GRRR ) or whether it was just the amount of music and i had recently added Kasabians new album Velociraptor .. it was really ("was" hehe) especially because i would play it in the car connecting it to a jack lead on my radio .. and it was driving (no pun intended lol) me mad .. but then today i found my mini mp3 dock and though id plug it in and whack a few songs Foo Fighters and the like .. and I swear it didnt jump/skid/skip/slip once .. it was perfect .. and this was all before i updated to .62 about 10mins ago .. hopefully its all ok .. gotta check and make sure its still rooted
anyway thats my version of events .. peace out
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Thanks for your input.....are you trying to say that you dont get any skipping when you use the mini mp3 dock rather than the jack lead?
I get skidding both through the lead and through Bluetooth.
Since reducing the size and format of the files I've not had any skidding or skipping.
I don't use my tb for music very often but i just noticed that when I have headphones in and start a song at my desired volume level, when the song changes (either on its own or when i change it) the volume will jump up to almost full blast. Scared the crap out of me the first time. As soon as I press the volume down it jumps back down to the previous level. It will do this continually. Can anything be done about it? Is there a fix?
FWIW, I'm running some recent twisted ics build.
Thanks!
Are all your MP3s in the same bitrate? different bitrates can be of different volumes.
Also, twisted has not updated anything in a long time, try one of Santod's ROMs, or the stock rooted by Santod. He is trying his best to keep like 4-5 ROMs updated.
Yes all my mp3s are the same bit rate. Especially from the same album. I might try a different rom real quickly to see if that solves it. Any other ideas?
Mine has been doing the same using the google music player on twisteds newest build. Although, this does not occur when using Pandora.
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I'm glad to hear it's not just me. You are correct that it doesn't do it on Pandora or other radio streaming apps. It definitely does with stock music player and Google/Play music player that is being streamed. Have you tried any other roms?
No I haven't tried another rom since I noticed the frightening increase. I'm not sure but I don't think this was happening on his previous builds but I could be mistaken.
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Same problem
Yeah i confirm, i've exactly the same issue. The volume jumps soudainly to maximum when the a new song starts. However, i use Google Play on a custom Rom based on CM 7 (Lewa Os)! :/
It seems to take place when dsp manager is included in a rom... Un-installing it and install back should work, that's all i know.
How do i reinstall dsp manager without just doing a restore from titanium backup since i can't find it in the play store? Does that count as doing a reinstall?
Did you ever solve this problem? I also have it