Hello fellow noters
I recently out of decided to sell my galaxy note to get the nexus 4 ( to use on simple mobile) and to my dismay the g-note i717 has a really really low resale value. From what I have seen on ebay and craigslist the average cost for a i717 is around the low 300s, which for me is bad, Very bad. If you take into account the money that paypal and ebay take for the commission of the sale you are left with 250 something. This probably has to do with the release of the note2 only 6 months later than the original note.
I'm not complaining because this is still a great device but the loss of value took me by surprise, but I will definitely think twice before getting another Samsung device close to its release date.
In conclusion my friends I would advice you that if you want a Samsung device wait 4-6 months and buy it out of contract for 1/2 the price and if you are planning on reselling it later take a deep breath before looking for the resale values.
IMHO I see the Nexus 4 as a Downgrade from the Galaxy Note 1...
NO SD CARD.
Non-Removeable Battery
Max 16 Gigs of Storage.. Max..
Smaller Screen....
But.. Enjoy
All android phones lose there value fast because theres a new better one every week. The reason something like iphone hold there value so long is because there is only 1 a yr.
RaiderWill said:
IMHO I see the Nexus 4 as a Downgrade from the Galaxy Note 1...
NO SD CARD.
Non-Removeable Battery
Max 16 Gigs of Storage.. Max..
Smaller Screen....
But.. Enjoy
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I see it as a huge upgrade because
I don't need more than 16GB of storage because I don't put 50000 songs on my phone when I don't listen to them all anyways.
I don't really need to remove the battery ever, and it has better battery life than my note which is horribly awful.
It has android 4.2 official from the get go, and will get future android updates a week or so after announcement. Current note doesn't have official 4.1 yet, and 4.2 is out! And CM10 is still not stable. I'm so done waiting 6 months for an android update, especially with how awesome the changes have become.
Screen is a bit smaller yes, but it's higher PPI.
2GB of RAM is very necessary for anyone who is a power user. I constantly have to reload apps.
Quad core krait is awesome and should never lag. note1 lags often.
It doesn't have LTE which does actually suck but will be better for battery life and HSPA 42 in Canada is pretty good
And it's $350!
You could argue the Note2 is a better phone than the nexus4 and in many ways it is, but I still think getting android updates is more important for me. And the price is great.
I'll be selling my note1 for $300 next week. It's lower than I'd like but allows me to upgrade to the nexus4 for very cheap!
Sound Like They're Getting Your Money.
I"ll Keep My Note *1* And My $30.00 A Month T-Mo Plan And Jamie's ParanoidAndroid JellyBean Rom All Day Long Over A Phone That Won't Allow Me To Expand My Memory Forcing Me To "The Cloud" And Not Even Allowing Me Access To My Phone's Battery Making Me A *Slave* To A Charging Outlet...
Enjoy Your Nexus 4....
The main reason I'm switching is because even with the blaze radios my speeds are very very slow. I am going to miss the spen, and my 32 gb sd card but due to the lack of support from Sammy to their devices and the low resale value I refuse to spend 700$ on a note 2.
The reason for this post is to tell you guys to get prepared for the loss of value when you try to upgrade from the note.
chiwire2000 said:
The main reason I'm switching is because even with the blaze radios my speeds are very very slow. I am going to miss the spen, and my 32 gb sd card but due to the lack of support from Sammy to their devices and the low resale value I refuse to spend 700$ on a note 2.
The reason for this post is to tell you guys to get prepared for the loss of value when you try to upgrade from the note.
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I will only spend 100 for my new Note2
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I bought my og note when att was doing their $50 refurb note upgrade deal. Mines legit very rarely reboots even at 1836mhz . I'm gonna wait till something better is available for another deal like that. Then you don't have to trip on ever losing money.
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Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't like contracts much less with att. This is mostly for people like me that buy off contract and use pre paid that the depreciation of the phone affect us. IMO signing a contract with att or Verizon is like selling your soul for a discount on a device you end up paying triple by the end.
that sucks you should have waited and sold it on CL and would have received more money...You were in to much of a hurry to sell if that you lost money...Everyone else is getting 350 min for there device....And the nexus 4 sucks...YOUR complaining the note 1 has no value??? Good luck selling that Lg phone.. lmao...you'll get 100 dollars for that LG ...You make no sense...Note 2 crushes that toy!
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that sucks you should have waited and sold it on CL and would have received more money...You were in to much of a hurry to sell if that you lost money...Everyone else is getting 350 min for there device....And the nexus 4 sucks...YOUR complaining the note 1 has no value??? Good luck selling that Lg phone.. lmao...you'll get 100 dollars for that LG ...You make no sense...Note 2 crushes that toy!
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I haven't sold it yet and I'm not complaining, I love this thing. I don't really mind if the nexus loses value because it only costs 350$, but that is another topic.
the Note does have a low resale value if you take in to account that it used to cost around 700$ and now you have to negotiate with someone to barely get half of your investment. Samsung products do devaluate quite fast because they flood the market with their phones, release new version every 6 months and they give retailers the option to sell the phone at the price they want. I got an S3 four months ago for 615 and I went to the same store today and saw it for 500. There is nothing bad with that, if you use it to your advantage and wait a while to get a great product for 2/3 of the its first retail price.
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Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't like contracts much less with att. This is mostly for people like me that buy off contract and use pre paid that the depreciation of the phone affect us. IMO signing a contract with att or Verizon is like selling your soul for a discount on a device you end up paying triple by the end.
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How do you figure it is triple? I have been on At&t since 1994. Not going to change. Have 5 lines with them. Always had great service. It would make no.sense not to get it subsidized for me. Going to to pay same price for service whether off or on contract.
from a galaxy far far away....
The triple is for the overpaying the service (I used to pay 120 more or less monthly on att for the past 5 years now I pay 50 everything unlimited) and if att works for you awesome, but all of this talk about subsidizing strays from the fact that the note devaluates pretty fast.
I've never seen a phone hold value...Technology is constanly upgraded and replacing other models every month..Just the way it is..Computers are worth half as less in about 3 months as well...
Ello mate!
Honestly if you want to sell your note then that's perfectly fine. You don't need to justify your decision to sell to the people on this forum because what is it to them if you sell or keep? Lol I don't know why people get butt hurt over it when it has nothing to do with them. Will they be using the phone or is it for you? Also don't let people's opinions discourage you. The nexus 4 is awesome and I want to get one as well....note is great but i have decided it's just too big for me. I am a very active person and it is actually getting in the way rather than simplifying my life. Can't go running with it. Can't take it to the gym..nope! Can't walk around the gym with the note in my gym shorts lol. I don't want to shell out additional money for another mp3 player.
I agree with you on the resale value. I put mine up on Craigslist for 430 and got so many low ball offers it's ridiculous. I am just going to keep it now ... meh.
I am buying a Note II this week, but only because my corp plan lets me it it for $200. The Spousal Unit would never allow a $750 + tax phone purchase in this house.
If I get $300 for the Note I then I am happy, since it lets me purchase the next upgrade for next to nothing.
That said, I am thinking of holding on to the Note I until December when the official JB comes out. The Note I does lag on stock rom a bit (never tried the custom JB ones), and I want to be able to sell it to non-XDA folks with full S-pen support. I am thinking that the Note I stock experience will be much better in December, and that if I show it to a couple of people I know they will be happier with it then. If an offer comes by before then, I'll let it go at that time I suppose.
My brother just sold his Note for $300 to a guy in Sudbury. He was a bit disappointed as well.
I told him it's a niche phone with low demand in a small market.
#FirstWorldProblems
Mad383Max said:
How do you figure it is triple? I have been on At&t since 1994. Not going to change. Have 5 lines with them. Always had great service. It would make no.sense not to get it subsidized for me. Going to to pay same price for service whether off or on contract.
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The triple is for the overpaying the service (I used to pay 120 more or less monthly on att for the past 5 years now I pay 50 everything unlimited) and if att works for you awesome, but all of this talk about subsidizing strays from the fact that the note devaluates pretty fast.
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Read the important part in red which you missed. If you have ONE LINE, non-contract makes sense in some cases. If you have more than one, nope.
As for the OP's whinge, who cares, everything that isn't a "durable product" devalues fast, think about how many THOUSANDS your car devalues the second it's "used".
wish777 said:
that sucks you should have waited and sold it on CL and would have received more money...You were in to much of a hurry to sell if that you lost money...Everyone else is getting 350 min for there device....And the nexus 4 sucks...YOUR complaining the note 1 has no value??? Good luck selling that Lg phone.. lmao...you'll get 100 dollars for that LG ...You make no sense...Note 2 crushes that toy!
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100% true! the nexus 4 will be worth nothing as Google drops its price, and I sold one of my skyrockets for 350 on Craig's list so I'd sell my note 1 for $400 up, and I'm in Fl too. Its all about the condition of the phone. If your note is mint like mine you'll sell it for $400 cause people will rather pay $400 for perfect condition than $300 for some old scratched up junk. In 6 mo. Your $350 nexus will be worth $199 or less cause its used. How's that for devaluation.
jietzer said:
All android phones lose there value fast because theres a new better one every week. The reason something like iphone hold there value so long is because there is only 1 a yr.
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Well that and Apple sells all their hardware at a high margin keeping the prices high at retail.
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After having the skyrocket for one day, I decided to go back to the original Galaxy S2. My reason? I saw a post on there that the OG GS2 was only $99 at Target. I couldn't justify the $150 extra price for a bigger screen and LTE option that isn't even in my area.
So I went to Best Buy and did a exchange/price swap for the OG GS2. The guy at Best Buy mobile offered me to keep my Skyrocket and give me $100 back. But instead I decided to get the OG GS2 and got instead $150 back. He said if I decide to go back to the SkyRocket later, he won't offer this deal again. The reason he offered it was because they would lose money on the exchange. What would you guys have done?
Don't get me wrong, I liked the Skyrocket, I even had it rooted. For the support of roms and awesome devs the OG GS2 has, it was a toss up. The Snapdragon processor lag was not noticeable when even scrolling fast through the forum categories this site has. Anyway glad to be back xD
Off to root this phone again!
You're crazy dude. If you could have gotten back $100 and only been out $50 you should have kept the skyrocket.
I'm not much of a penny pincher. I'm definitely not rich, but in the end it's not a lot of money and you only live once. I'm not going to live my life being cheap. Geez I probably spend $300 a month just in Starbucks.
I returned my SG2 and paid the extra $50 to get the Skyrocket. Of course I live in an LTE area, but usually use wifi at home anyway.
My thoughts were that the SR is more future proof. Also I see no lag with either phone. People with a sg2 who say they see lag on the SR are really on crack. They are both really speedy. I don't base a phone on benchmarks which rate things I would never really do.
But in the end, if you're saving basically a tanks worth of gas made you happy, then I guess that is what matters.
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After having the skyrocket for one day, I decided to go back to the original Galaxy S2. My reason? I saw a post on there that the OG GS2 was only $99 at Target. I couldn't justify the $150 extra price for a bigger screen and LTE option that isn't even in my area.
So I went to Best Buy and did a exchange/price swap for the OG GS2. The guy at Best Buy mobile offered me to keep my Skyrocket and give me $100 back. But instead I decided to get the OG GS2 and got instead $150 back. He said if I decide to go back to the SkyRocket later, he won't offer this deal again. The reason he offered it was because they would lose money on the exchange. What would you guys have done?
Don't get me wrong, I liked the Skyrocket, I even had it rooted. For the support of roms and awesome devs the OG GS2 has, it was a toss up. The Snapdragon processor lag was not noticeable when even scrolling fast through the forum categories this site has. Anyway glad to be back xD
Off to root this phone again!
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I will switch to Skyrocket if it's $99 in my Boston area ($250 instead) and i only got this one for $50. So in order to get the Skyrocket i need to put an extra $200. Hmmm too much.
HTC Chris said:
After having the skyrocket for one day, I decided to go back to the original Galaxy S2. My reason? I saw a post on there that the OG GS2 was only $99 at Target. I couldn't justify the $150 extra price for a bigger screen and LTE option that isn't even in my area.
So I went to Best Buy and did a exchange/price swap for the OG GS2. The guy at Best Buy mobile offered me to keep my Skyrocket and give me $100 back. But instead I decided to get the OG GS2 and got instead $150 back. He said if I decide to go back to the SkyRocket later, he won't offer this deal again. The reason he offered it was because they would lose money on the exchange. What would you guys have done?
Don't get me wrong, I liked the Skyrocket, I even had it rooted. For the support of roms and awesome devs the OG GS2 has, it was a toss up. The Snapdragon processor lag was not noticeable when even scrolling fast through the forum categories this site has. Anyway glad to be back xD
Off to root this phone again!
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Where did you find the OGSGS2 for $99?? I'm checking their online but nothing...
Just found it in slickdeals... so I guess I am gonna go down to Target tomorrow and see if they still have that deal. I would totally go back to OGSGS for $100 lmfao
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You're crazy dude. If you could have gotten back $100 and only been out $50 you should have kept the skyrocket.
I'm not much of a penny pincher. I'm definitely not rich, but in the end it's not a lot of money and you only live once. I'm not going to live my life being cheap. Geez I probably spend $300 a month just in Starbucks.
I returned my SG2 and paid the extra $50 to get the Skyrocket. Of course I live in an LTE area, but usually use wifi at home anyway.
My thoughts were that the SR is more future proof. Also I see no lag with either phone. People with a sg2 who say they see lag on the SR are really on crack. They are both really speedy. I don't base a phone on benchmarks which rate things I would never really do.
But in the end, if you're saving basically a tanks worth of gas made you happy, then I guess that is what matters.
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I know it was only $50, but I also had a little over $100 in accessories on the OG GS2: Zagg Shield, Casemate pop case, extended battery, Taurus bumper. So in the end I do end up saving $150. Initially all I really wanted to do was see how much development would happen in that 30 day period.
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Where did you find the OGSGS2 for $99?? I'm checking their online but nothing...
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I just called my local Target.
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I just called my local Target.
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good idea.. calling my local stores now.. but they are all on "dinner" break... damn them!
mbze430 said:
good idea.. calling my local stores now.. but they are all on "dinner" break... damn them!
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yea they always seem to busy, I had to be put on hold 3 times by the operator to have their electronics department pick up >.>
Here's the post that I found the price of $99. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335677&page=6 Should be at the bottom of the page.
If it makes you feel better, I could have bought the Vivid for $99, Skyrocket for $149 but I'm holding my $99 SGSII right now
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If it makes you feel better, I could have bought the Vivid for $99, Skyrocket for $149 but I'm holding my $99 SGSII right now
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I'm holding a Skyrocket for $149 as well... and I had the OGSGS2 for $199... but like I said I would totally go back to the OGSGS2 for $99. Cuz I am cheap like that
because honestly... with ALL electronics is all about getting it for the cheapest one can get. Because they dEVALUE the fastest and become obsolete. The cheaper the better because in 2-3 months there ALWAYS something better.
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Just got off the phone with Target, and they have it for $99 here as well.. sweet... gonna go to BB to return the Skyrocket tomorrow
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I'm holding a Skyrocket for $149 as well... and I had the OGSGS2 for $199... but like I said I would totally go back to the OGSGS2 for $99. Cuz I am cheap like that
because honestly... with ALL electronics is all about getting it for the cheapest one can get. Because they dEVALUE the fastest and become obsolete. The cheaper the better because in 2-3 months there ALWAYS something better.
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So true. Both will be outdated within a month. At least the SGSII will have the huge dev community.
And LTE... that'll just get me to my 2GB data limit quicker. I'm on Wifi alot anyway and barely stream anything anyway.
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If it makes you feel better, I could have bought the Vivid for $99, Skyrocket for $149 but I'm holding my $99 SGSII right now
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haha thanks
mbze430 said:
I'm holding a Skyrocket for $149 as well... and I had the OGSGS2 for $199... but like I said I would totally go back to the OGSGS2 for $99. Cuz I am cheap like that
because honestly... with ALL electronics is all about getting it for the cheapest one can get. Because they dEVALUE the fastest and become obsolete. The cheaper the better because in 2-3 months there ALWAYS something better.
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I wonder if it would be possible to return the phone every 30 days since there is no "one return/exchange only" policy like AT&T...
JK... or am I?
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You're crazy dude. If you could have gotten back $100 and only been out $50 you should have kept the skyrocket.
I'm not much of a penny pincher. I'm definitely not rich, but in the end it's not a lot of money and you only live once. I'm not going to live my life being cheap. Geez I probably spend $300 a month just in Starbucks.
I returned my SG2 and paid the extra $50 to get the Skyrocket. Of course I live in an LTE area, but usually use wifi at home anyway.
My thoughts were that the SR is more future proof. Also I see no lag with either phone. People with a sg2 who say they see lag on the SR are really on crack. They are both really speedy. I don't base a phone on benchmarks which rate things I would never really do.
But in the end, if you're saving basically a tanks worth of gas made you happy, then I guess that is what matters.
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SR is not more future proof - as it's a niche device with little in common with other devices, it's going to get very attention development-wise, officially or unofficially.
As compared to the I777, which can get nearly anything the I9100 gets, which is Samsung's hottest-selling phone of 2011.
Entropy512 said:
SR is not more future proof - as it's a niche device with little in common with other devices, it's going to get very attention development-wise, officially or unofficially.
As compared to the I777, which can get nearly anything the I9100 gets, which is Samsung's hottest-selling phone of 2011.
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its only 2 days old.......damn E
Welcome back, I think that the OGS2 is the better device for me. Glad you like it as well!
my take...
I returned the Galaxy S II for the 'Rocket... At first I was going to use my contact extension to buy and sell an iPhone 4S and use the profit to finance a Galaxy Note but now that I have LTE there's no going back, especially with my grandfathered unlimited data... The bluish display tint is annoying but I can put up with it, especially since I got the 'Rocket for $150. Fair dinkum for sure.
I have never done a 30days switch till this year. It's the way Samsung/AT&T had made their release on the Galaxy S2 and the variants.
As they release 2 "similar" phone within the 30days period. Which gives us the consumer the ability to go on a "trial" basis thanks to 3rd party stores like BB, Walmart, and Target with their 30days no question as return policy.
I bought the sgs2 for $260 out the door the hour it came out while paying verizon $220 to break my unlimited data contract and final bill. Yup, $480 and metered data this phone cost me. Best mobile month of my life.
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SR is not more future proof - as it's a niche device with little in common with other devices, it's going to get very attention development-wise, officially or unofficially.
As compared to the I777, which can get nearly anything the I9100 gets, which is Samsung's hottest-selling phone of 2011.
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That's how I feel. Much like the Galaxy S and the NA variants of the phone.
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SR is not more future proof - as it's a niche device with little in common with other devices, it's going to get very attention development-wise, officially or unofficially.
As compared to the I777, which can get nearly anything the I9100 gets, which is Samsung's hottest-selling phone of 2011.
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Yes the dev part is true. Me on the other hand I don't run custom roms. I did when I had the captivate being as it took forever for 2.2 to come out, and when it did I already moved on.
I used to jailbreak all my iPhones just so I could customize it. But I never really got on to the custom rom bandwagon with android phones.
Stock works just fine for me.
I still think it's more future proof though being as LTE is the next generation and which is the future. It will keep expanding in coverage and in the end I think the SR would be the better choice for that reason.
For me, I like the bigger screen of the SR (my eyes aren't getting any better as I age), and I live in an LTE area.
I am actually enjoying the SR much better than I did my Atrix, although the Atrix is a great phone as well.
On a side note, I wonder why AT&T is only doing Visual Voicemail with their LTE devices. It would be easy to just offer the app for other androids. I used YouMail for my other phones which works great, but just something about having it built in to the carrier I like better.
Steps of being an early adopter:
1. Froth at the mouth over the specs of a new Android device months before its release
2. Get antsy for the release date to be here right now!
3. Think about how amazing it will be when you finally have the perfect phone
4. Stay up all night the day before its release
5. Buy your dream phone and finally realize what it means to be in love
6. Learn every detail, every intricacy, about your new partner
then
7. A few months later... see Amazon Wireless drop the price from $299 -> FREE w/ a contract and go:
"#SLFM*%[email protected]&!!! WHY DIDN'T I SIMPLY WAIT A FEW MONTHS AND SAVE $300?!?!"
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Rinse, lather, repeat...
Just wanted to give those going through these steps without thinking a perspective that they might want to wait a couple of months to see just how quick the price drops on the Galaxy Note. I know since I've been through it myself wanting a new phone and not really thinking
p.s. another great benefit of being a few months late adopter ... you get to let all the early adopters deal with the problems early on, then when you do get it (at a significant price drop) all the manufacturer bugs are worked out and you have reviews from reputable sources exactly how things like battery life are.
I honestly don't see it dropping that quickly. Look at the skyrocket which has been out for about 3 months. Those have only gone down $50. I was more than happy to get mine a few days before it released, I even bought it at full retail. Sure you could wait and hope it goes on sale somewhere in a couple months but at this point, the people who want the Note want it NOW lol I know I for one am itching to get one.
Yeah, I had that thought, then I looked at the prices of the AT&T Galaxy S II and the Galaxy S II Skyrocket and realized I'll be fine. They've barely dropped.
imitenotbecrazy said:
I honestly don't see it dropping that quickly. Look at the skyrocket which has been out for about 3 months. Those have only gone down $50.
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begadkepat said:
Yeah, I had that thought, then I looked at the prices of the AT&T Galaxy S II and the Galaxy S II Skyrocket and realized I'll be fine. They've barely dropped.
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The Skyrocket has been out less than 3 months and has already dropped from $249 -> $99 on Amazon Wireless: http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-...=INDIVIDUAL_NEW&sr=1-3-entd&qid=1328485541055
Not to mention that I believe in California (and certain other states) if you buy a phone from ATT, BestBuy, Radioshack, etc you have to pay sales tax on the full retail price of the phone (another $50 - 60) but if you purchase it on AmazonWireless you don't pay sales tax.
Even more savings
I woke up this morning thinking this same question knowing how the Streak price dropped after a couple of months.. So I'm gonna wait Til it drops and read everyone's reviews in the mean time. I loved being one the first w/ the streak in Aug 10 but my jaw dropped a little with the price dropping so fast.. I have a AT&T store a couple steps from my job so I'll go there and mess with it for a bit to get my fix...
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The Skyrocket has been out less than 3 months and has already dropped from $249 -> $99 on Amazon Wireless: http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-...=INDIVIDUAL_NEW&sr=1-3-entd&qid=1328485541055
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Thats for brand new customers or add a lines. Change it to upgrade and it goes back up to 200. We could all wait till black friday and amazon will likely have all their phones for a penny for add a lines or new customers. You can always wait and find it somewhere for a cheaper price but thats boring
Edit- Actually its MORE expensive on amazon to add a line with a skyrocket lol which is really odd. So $99 is only for brand new customers
Haha.. actually they have run the skyrocket for a penny a few times now
imitenotbecrazy said:
Thats for brand new customers or add a lines. Change it to upgrade and it goes back up to 200. We could all wait till black friday and amazon will likely have all their phones for a penny for add a lines or new customers. You can always wait and find it somewhere for a cheaper price but thats boring
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I bought streak to in August and never regretted it. It has been the best phone I have ever had. Hopefully the note will top it!
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Thats for brand new customers or add a lines. Change it to upgrade and it goes back up to 200.
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No, even if you click on upgrading an individual account it is still $99
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Haha.. actually they have run the skyrocket for a penny a few times now
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Thank you mred! I haven't followed the skyrocket daily but this makes my point that much easier...
In 3 months time the Note might be a penny with contract (just like the Skyrocket) on Amazon so it might be best to wait a little and avoid Step 7
For some people waiting and saving a couple hundred is worth it. I work for best buy mobile so I always get the newest phones on release day. I very rarely have spend money on phones so I guess thats why it doesn't matter to me haha See ya in a few months
it was a penny within a month or so.
I am torn. I have buy back on my skyrocket and could easily sell it back...but I would have to come up with the difference. I keep saying I will wait until we have another line available for upgrade because typically we come out ahead that way.
ap3604 said:
No, even if you click on upgrading an individual account it is still $99
Thank you mred! I haven't followed the skyrocket daily but this makes my point that much easier...
In 3 months time the Note might be a penny with contract (just like the Skyrocket) on Amazon so it might be best to wait a little and avoid Step 7
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And honestly after those three months there will be a new phone I have to have... All to their own I guess.
imitenotbecrazy said:
For some people waiting and saving a couple hundred is worth it. I work for best buy mobile so I always get the newest phones on release day. I very rarely have spend money on phones so I guess thats why it doesn't matter to me
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This thread was mainly to serve as a warning and reminder to the people who might not be thinking clearly / from all angles - "OMG OMG I NEED THIS PHONE RIGHT NOW!"
I remember back in the day I would work myself up into a frenzy over a new phone that I just HAD to have, bought it on release day for retail price, and then greatly regretted it later on due to a price drop
Every time a new phone comes out there are always alot of early adopters on Xda making threads and pissed off about paying full retail on release day and are surprised by how fast Amazon Wireless drops the price (and resale value) of their prized possession they thought would be on top of the mountain longer...
Of course if $200-300 in savings isn't that big of a deal for you then by all means upgrade the day it comes out
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Steps of being an early adopter:
1. Froth at the mouth over the specs of a new Android device months before its release
2. Get antsy for the release date to be here right now!
3. Think about how amazing it will be when you finally have the perfect phone
4. Stay up all night the day before its release
5. Buy your dream phone and finally realize what it means to be in love
6. Learn every detail, every intricacy, about your new partner
then
7. A few months later... see Amazon Wireless drop the price from $299 -> FREE w/ a contract and go:
Rinse, lather, repeat...
Just wanted to give those going through these steps without thinking a perspective that they might want to wait a couple of months to see just how quick the price drops on the Galaxy Note. I know since I've been through it myself wanting a new phone and not really thinking
p.s. another great benefit of being a few months late adopter ... you get to let all the early adopters deal with the problems early on, then when you do get it (at a significant price drop) all the manufacturer bugs are worked out and you have reviews from reputable sources exactly how things like battery life are.
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When the price on Galaxy Note really drops there already will be Galaxy Note 2 around so you always going to be at least one generation behind.
joedoe said:
When the price on Galaxy Note really drops there already will be Galaxy Note 2 around so you always going to be at least one generation behind.
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ahhh believe that if you want... I'll get back w/ you on that in two months...
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ahhh believe that if you want... I'll get back w/ you on that in two months...
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Looking forward...
joedoe said:
When the price on Galaxy Note really drops there already will be Galaxy Note 2 around so you always going to be at least one generation behind.
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So even though Amazon dropped the price of the ATT Skyrocket to FREE less than a month (and currently $99) after its release... somehow Amazon won't drop the price of the Galaxy Note for at least a year until the Galaxy Note 2 is here?
Sounds like wishful thinking from someone who already plans on buying it at full retail price
If anything though people might be better off just having patience and waiting a month or so for the inevitable (and fast) price drop by Amazon of the Galaxy Note and save the cool $200-300...
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So even though Amazon dropped the price of the ATT Skyrocket to FREE less than a month (and currently $99) after its release... somehow Amazon won't drop the price of the Galaxy Note for at least a year until the Galaxy Note 2 is here?
Sounds like wishful thinking from someone who already plans on buying it at full retail price
If anything though people might be better off just having patience and waiting a month or so for the inevitable (and fast) price drop by Amazon of the Galaxy Note and save the cool $200-300...
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No No.....Let him stand proud on that soapbox....
Who cares let us be if we want to buy it and u just wait. To each its own!
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I don't see a gun in my hand keeping you from getting it : ).... But since your simmering, i'll digress...But I do think you need a beer.... : ) here's one from me.. full retail...sorry I had to do it : )
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket with AT&T. I also have an Acer Iconia A500 10" tablet. Both are rooted running custom ROMS. The tablet is actually running a leaked ICS. I have been proposed this offer. A guy has an upgrade available. He wants to buy me a brand new white galaxy note in exchange for these two devices.
If it were you would you accept the trade?
No. LOL he should give you cash, you can decide how much depending on condition of your phone and tablet. Wait a few and watch Note's price drop.
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Skyrocket eBay average sold* price for used phone in perfect condition: $400.00
Iconia A500 eBay average sold* price for used tablet in perfect condition: $300.00
SOURCE.
That is $700 and for that you can get a brand new I7000. That guy would only have to spend $300 on a white note and take a $400 profit off you.
*"Average sold" means the average price for that specific item that actually SOLD. Not the price they are listed for sale.
But you cant calculate it at 300 he is also giving up his upgrade. You have to look at the average sale price of the Galaxy note and its close to 700.
I did actually consider selling both the items and turning around and buying one myself but then I go through the hassle and time of selling them, hoping that I get enough out of them. I also go without a phone in between the time the skyrocket sells and I get the note because it is my only phone.
I am not eligible for an upgrade at the moment so I would pay that $700 price tag. Yes, he may only pay $300 but he wins by getting both devices and saving some money on the purchase and I win by getting the note without the trouble of having to sell both devices and hoping I get enough.
The question I come down to is if the Note is a good enough phone to ditch the skyrocket whose only advantage over the note is that it has NFC and the tablet, which I hardly use because I have a laptop and an iPad, for the note that has the larger screen.
The main things I use my phone for are as a GPS navigator, a web browser, and a camera. The larger screen would seem to be better suited for all of that. I would hope that posting this in the Galaxy Note section you would have some insight as to the performance of the device as well as the customization available (ROMs, Kernels, etc). I've owned the devices I'm giving up, I haven't owned the Note. Just looking for pros and cons and personal opinions. No need for comments like "He's ripping you off" or what not. Just explain why you think he is.
Thanks guys!
I would take the trade. Trying to sell stuff on craigslist or eBay is such a pain. But that is me and I was desperate for the note. I had my skyrocket + $200 cash on my end on craigslist looking for a trade. So if you are impatient and don't mind taking a little hit go for it. The note is an amazing device. I also have an iconia and I have not used it in a week.
However if you are asking here that would indicate some trepidation on your behalf. Trust your gut.
I would take the trade + $50-$100 cash back from the guy who has the Galaxy Note
if it were me....i would not do it.
he is winning either way you look at it. the Rocket is a great device in its own right......plus a tablet?
sell one or both and see where it leaves you. at&t has the note 649 right. if anything trade the rocket to him plus a little cash and keep the tab or vise versa
thats my OP
700? There's one in marketplace right now for 550 shipped. They're going to be on the market for about that much for awhile..your choice ...easy deal for trade or sell your devices for what they're worth and pocket 150.
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I came from the Skyrocket and dont regret it at all. Probably biggest decision is how much will you miss a full tablet. I would say he is making out a little ahead and may be able to talk him into 50 dollars or so but if its what you really want its worth it IMHO.
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The question I come down to is if the Note is a good enough phone to ditch the skyrocket whose only advantage over the note is that it has NFC and the tablet said:
The Note has NFC
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If you live near me, I'll gladly trade you my Note for what you're offering.
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I came from the Skyrocket and dont regret it at all. Probably biggest decision is how much will you miss a full tablet. I would say he is making out a little ahead and may be able to talk him into 50 dollars or so but if its what you really want its worth it IMHO.
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He still has an iPad, and from what he says he uses his devices for, the iPad more than fulfills the 'full tablet' requirement. No, it isn't an android tablet, but the iPad still surfs the web well, apart from flash.
i would tell him the skyrocket or the acer iconia and $100 for his Galaxy note - if he says no then tell him to go F** himself.
Good luck
I more or less did this exact thing, since I wasn't eligible for an upgrade on the Note. I sold my SR and a Toshiba Thrive on ebay for about $680. But then you take into account Ebay fees and then Paypal fees and you're out almost $100. So the offer is not terrible really, if you wanted a Note anyways.
My Samsung Galaxy Note™ is smarter than your Honor Student.
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If you live near me, I'll gladly trade you my Note for what you're offering.
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I'm in Indianapolis
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I'm in Indianapolis
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Too much driving from Florida.
I wasn't serious anyway. You'll end up losing out on the deal if you trade with the guy. Try to sell them separately and you'll come out even. The Skyrocket should get you $300 on Craigslist easy. That alone should be enough to pick up the Note from him and you get to keep the rocket and the tab
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Too much driving from Florida.
I wasn't serious anyway. You'll end up losing out on the deal if you trade with the guy. Try to sell them separately and you'll come out even. The Skyrocket should get you $300 on Craigslist easy. That alone should be enough to pick up the Note from him and you get to keep the rocket and the tab
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I assumed as much Just figured I'd call your bluff.
After looking around craigslist and ebay I could probably break even with enough money to buy the note but then I go through the hassle of selling them and then being without a phone if the phone happens to sell before the tablet and I don't have the money for the note yet.
It basically comes down to whether or not I really want the note. I've been to AT&T twice to play with it and like the phone but that one wasn't rooted, OCed, or running a custom ROM. I know it has to be faster than the one they have on the floor.
So far I've seen comments that people have switched from the skyrocket to the note and don't regret it. I'd be curious if there is anyone who does?
I had two skyrockets with in a two week period and both developed problems and were returned to AT&T, I told them to keep the skyrocket and I would pay the difference for the white note and I think that the Note is a much better phone than the skyrocket!!! It is a great phone and a even better tablet, I have not touched mt Galaxy tab since I got my note.
I have a deal pending on my SR for $350 shipped and the Iconia 16gb A500 will probably get you $250 so that's $600 from you. If you pay the paypal fee and shipping like I am, I'm only really getting about $310 for the SR. A NIB Note is getting about $550 so it's really more a question of...Do you feel like you are losing out or getting what you want? I have the Transformer Prime running CM9 with a case and I hardly use it. My phone is what I spend most of my time on.
Hey all,
TLDR; I'm budget consious. Do you recommend a $50 refurbed Note for upgrade now, or wait for a refurbed S3 or HOX upgrade?
I'm currently still on the i897 Captivate running CM10 nightlies. For the most part pretty happy with it (GPS is of course spotty), but I've been sitting on an upgrade waiting for something good (read: cheap) to come up on the Note or S3.
AT$T currently has a deal for $50 refurbed Note (+2 year renewed contract) apparently upgraded to ICS.
I'm wondering what thoughts you folks may have regarding this deal and/or how the Note is post-ICS upgrade. I'd almost certainly root and flash a custom ICS or JB ROM immediately, but I see there's been reports of issues especailly with GPS on the Note in ICS.
I also see the DEV support on the i717 is excellent and I recognize many names here from folks who moved on from the Cappy...so that's great, but I'm really hoping for a solid phone with no obvious flaws like we all know the Cappy had with the GPS woes.
Any thoughts or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
TIA
For $50.00
To get a like new note...I'd be all over that deal.
the note is great device, with a huge development base. and It's gonna be around for a while...(forever)....IMHO
I got my i717 recently and have been very pleased with it!
The screen is crisp clear bright and HUGE!
The devs are really good and really friendly!
If you are thinking about it I'd say go for it!
GPS is accurate within 4 meters for me!
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Go to a local AT&T store and play with the Note and decide then.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
NOTE user:
"take a deep breath, make sure to get a good look at it, relax and slowly take it in, the size is overwhelming at first but you will have a happy ending afterwards".
Woman:
Can't go wrong with the note. A refurb goes through quality checks that will ensure it's like new anyways, and you'll have a 90 day warranty where I assume you'll be able to keep exchanging for more refurbs until you get a good one if you get a lemon...which you probably won't get a lemon.
HOX is a good phone, but I'm impartial to Samsung due to their screens and how friendly they are to custom developing. The screen on the note or the gs3 are untouchable by any other phone on the market imho. Its pretty much impossible to hard brick this phone if you dont flash anything you shouldnt, ie from the international note...so long as you stay here you can recover from most anything you mess up. GPS is amazing because the note has both agps and glonass functionality...super fast, super accurate locks. If you can handle the size, get the note, hands down. Even if it seems a bit large, most people quickly grow accustomed to it and can't see themselves going back to a smaller screen.
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I agree with all the above posters - the note is a fantastic device and a steal at $50 (I wish I payed that for mine). I haven't had any gps issues on ice or jb. But i would definitely play with both the note and the S3 before making a decision.
Just out of curiosity, how much is a refurb S3 or HOX?
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Thank you all for the replies.
I am sorely tempted...went to the local AT$T store and determined it will fit in my pocket. That would have been a deal breaker!
To the previous poster, there are no S3 or HOX refurbs at AT$T yet. For a long time, the Note refurb was ~$200 on their website and suddenly dropped to this price quite recently which obviously is making way for the Note2's.
Agreed on Samsung. HOX was under consideration b/c ppl say the build quality is good and Costco had them new for $80 and no upgrade fee. However no external SD or battery access was a big turn off.
After my initial experience with the Captivate of having an essentially crippled phone on 2.1 I swore them off...until I got tired of waiting on Froyo and discovered all you fine folk at XDA. Obviously now I've come to appreciate the Cappy for it's amazing flexibility and unbrickableness unless you screw up bootloaders. Who knew I'd get all the way from 2.1 -> 4.1.1 on this thing???
God I loved, er, still love my Cappy. It's my dad's phone now but every time I'm back home from my college town I mess with it still. The Note shares that same unbrickability, so you'll be happy with that. What I would love to see is Cappy styling brought back with Note size...mmm.
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Pulled the trigger today. Even got AT$T to waive the $36 activation.
Now onto Root/CWM/Odin research prior to decision on which custom ROM to flash
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Thanks again all for the opinions.
$50 for refurb and nearly $100 per month for service is not a good deal. Buying the note outright and getting h2o or straight talk at 40-45 per month is better investment IMHO I did that buying the iPhone 4 for $65 refurb and I paid for nearly no data and nearly $85 per month with 200 text at the time.
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$50 for refurb and nearly $100 per month for service is not a good deal. Buying the note outright and getting h2o or straight talk at 40-45 per month is better investment IMHO I did that buying the iPhone 4 for $65 refurb and I paid for nearly no data and nearly $85 per month with 200 text at the time.
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Yeah, if it were just me on a individual plan I'd agree with you, but I'm on a family plan with 2 lines and we have a 24% corporate discount on the voice...so when we average out the per line cost it's about $55/line/month...Straight Talk is $45/line/month so I'd need to buy a phone outright for ~$240 (net $10 difference/month * 2 years) which might get me a used Galaxy S2 on Cowboom, or roll the dice on eBay for something a bit nicer (maybe).
Trust me I've done the math and unless I'm missing something, AT$T 2 year service plan is about best I can do now.
Congratulations on getting the note. You won't regret it. Do you have LTE where you are? If so, all the better reason to be with At&t.
I'm pretty sure the One X is now $99 on contract/upgrade.
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If I could get another one for $50 I would...it's an awesome phone, super fast on custom ROMs, epic screen...Go for it, you won't be disappointed.
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I can offer my take: it's the longest I've had a phone in a year? It's lasted almost a full month. (I don't own a computer, tablet or TV.) The Note does it all for me. It's a fantastic device, save for the ridiculous buttons at the bottom. Pretty easy to flash. And if you are like myself and thoroughly disgusted with the Note 2? Right now, it's the only choice.
I'm planning on selling my DNA (with a Nokia wireless charger) and Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet around the time the Note 3 is released. The Note 3 will essentially be a faster, higher resolution, and more portable (albeit smaller) version of the Note 10.1, which I love. I also have a DNA, which is the main reason I'm here.
My DNA has a few small scratches at the top of the screen over the verizon logo (not part of the actual screen) and a very small knick on the bottom left edge of phone which isn't very noticeable at all. I don't have any pictures of my phone to show, but you can trust that my description is accurate as I'm trying to accurately gauge what I can get out of the phone money-wise. Other than what's previously mentioned, the phone is in perfect condition. Runs well, very smooth, etc etc. Assuming I maintain the phone until September/October, how much can I expect to get out of it? I've seen listings on Ebay for around $325-$400 used, and I expect I can get just a little bit more by including the charger.
I'm curious to know if time was anything to do with the resale value. Will I be able to get the same $325-$400 out of it if I keep using it for about 4 months longer? I've had it since Christmas, so I'd have been using it for about 9 months. I assume the value would drop a little bit, but I'm not sure how much.
Thanks in advance for the help, I appreciate it!
I'm sure with the introduction of new devices like Galaxy s4 an HTC One or the Note 3 will most definitely lower your resale value on your device to the low end of things.
Its pretty much how it works with electronics they get obsolete really quick.
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I'm sure with the introduction of new devices like Galaxy s4 an HTC One or the Note 3 will most definitely lower your resale value on your device to the low end of things.
Its pretty much how it works with electronics they get obsolete really quick.
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I also look at these things. I've been doing it for 6 years. I try to buy and sell during the smallest drop where the phone is still relevant. I find that to be buying at 400-450 and selling at 250-300. Usually i buy around 4-6 months after a phone comes out and sell it after owning for just less than a year. The DNA dropped in price quick. I was able to grab it just after 3 months for $375, i expect to see $300 around August when i will probably get the S4.
with that said, Verizon and sprint lose value much quicker because of the lack of true GSM, though sprint is worse by far. I am predicting this phone to be around 325 come august and 275 by christmas. then it will stabilize at 200-250 for another year. We are in the quick downfall period for the phone. Also Brands matter. I've found Samsung galaxy to be the best retainer followed by HTC, then Moto and LG.
here's how it usually flows.
A typical new phone that retails for $650
First 3 months Loss of < 150(500)
Next 3 months Loss of <100 (400)
next 3 months loss of <75 (325)
next 3 months loss of <75(250)
next 12 months loss of <50 (200)
I'll second the $300 estimate for late summer. It's a decent time to sell as the pre Christmas phones haven't been announced yet. Once that happens the value will go into the $hitter.
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The Note 2 is retailing around $700 online at Verizon right now, so I think it'd be safe to assume the Note 3 will be around $750-$800 when it's first released? And how long would it be until I could probably buy a Note 3 off amazon or ebay at a slightly lower price? Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it.
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The Note 2 is retailing around $700 online at Verizon right now, so I think it'd be safe to assume the Note 3 will be around $750-$800 when it's first released? And how long would it be until I could probably buy a Note 3 off amazon or ebay at a slightly lower price? Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it.
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The Note2 price on Verizon did not hold up very well. I think the big size eventually turns off users who really were not expecting that which creates a larger than average resale market. When i bought my DNA back in March, there were NOTE2 going straight up for trades with the DNA which you could easily have gotten for $375-$400. Both devices came out in November but the Note 2 retailed much higer at $700. That's a $300 drop in 4 months. If i was in the market for a Note, i'd wait 4 months. It dropped about a hundred a month those 1st 4 months and since has stabilized and even gone up a little.
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The Note 2 is retailing around $700 online at Verizon right now, so I think it'd be safe to assume the Note 3 will be around $750-$800 when it's first released? And how long would it be until I could probably buy a Note 3 off amazon or ebay at a slightly lower price? Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it.
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Sam's Club was giving away Note II's on Verizon as early as January. I could see the Note III being the same.