is it possible to get anything beyond edge speeds?
ojwhit11 said:
is it possible to get anything beyond edge speeds?
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depends on your location.
T-mobile USA is moving 3G to 1900mhz band, which will allow the photon/iphone to get 3G.
Currently, most t-mobile USA towers have 3G on 1700mhz which the photon/iphone cannot handle.
When the 1900 towers for tmobile upgrade to 4g, will that allow the Photon to access 4g?
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I have a INTERNATIONAL Samsung Galaxy S2. I am going to be travelling to the states soon. I am planing on getting the ATT Go Phone 50 dollars unlimited plan. My other option is tmobile. However i know they use AWS for their 3G connection but my friend is saying that their HSPA+ 4G network uses the 2100Mhz band. My question is could i use this network with my phone?
Thanks
sm625614 said:
I have a INTERNATIONAL Samsung Galaxy S2. I am going to be travelling to the states soon. I am planing on getting the ATT Go Phone 50 dollars unlimited plan. My other option is tmobile. However i know they use AWS for their 3G connection but my friend is saying that their HSPA+ 4G network uses the 2100Mhz band. My question is could i use this network with my phone?
Thanks
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Nope. Not how AWS works. AWS requires both 1700 and 2100, as it uses one for uplink and one for downlink. So if you go w/T-Mobile USA, you will be limited to Edge data speeds when not in range of wi-fi.
The other option you have is using one of the smaller networks that piggy-backs on AT&T's network, like h2o.
I don't know much about them though.
I know the Jetstream was designed to be run on AT&T and Rogers, but I am curious if it is possible to flash a radio to enable usage of T-Mobile's HSPA network, much like the Samsung Galaxy Note has been enabled to, as seen here.
Can any of the amazing Devs out there shed some light on this?
jdavis08 said:
I know the Jetstream was designed to be run on AT&T and Rogers, but I am curious if it is possible to flash a radio to enable usage of T-Mobile's HSPA network, much like the Samsung Galaxy Note has been enabled to, as seen here.
Can any of the amazing Devs out there shed some light on this?
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jdavis08, Simple answer is yes. It is a standard 2G / 3G / LTE (AT&T / AWS band) phone. So you can use it on ANY 2G / 3G / LTE network with a SIM. But you may need to break the SIM Lock on any handset.
Just wanted to clarify. The Jetstream is 2G/3G/LTE /capable, 2G (GSM): 850/900/1800/1900MHz, 3G (UMTS/HSPA): 850/1900/2100, and LTE: 700mhz & AWS-1700/2100.
Currently, T-Mobile only uses the AWS for their HSPA+ network, not LTE (from what I understand, AWS will be transitioned for LTE and 1900mhz refarmed for 3G/4G early 2013) - and if I'm not mistaken, the HSPA+ is only supported by the "3G" band of this device, not the "LTE"
So - to make a long story short. I am a T-Mobile subscriber with various "4G" phones from T-Mobile. Their 4G only works if the phone has a radio with AWS for HSPA as T-Mobile (unlike AT&T) does not use the 1900mhz for their HSPA (yet). I own this tablet.. It has been SIM unlocked and it simply does not get anything above EDGE... and I live near and visit major cities in Washington State, Seattle/Bellevue/Tacoma, which definitely have TMo's 4G coverage.
I know I should just cool my jets until TMo rolls out the network upgrades, as I have no interest in joining AT&T. I was just curious if there was some way to "trick" the phone to use the AWS frequencies for HSPA, like the Galaxy Note has been made to do as the radio specs are identical.
I know that the Note was enabled to do this by flashing another radio. Support is minimal for the Jetstream these days... so I was just reaching out.
Thanks guys
Does it get 3G speeds or just edge speeds on at&t 3g network?
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savagepagan said:
Does it get 3G speeds or just edge speeds on at&t 3g network?
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While I haven't used it on AT&T's network I can tell you by the phones specifications and use on my own network which operates the same frequencies as AT&T that you should be able to get HSPA+ speeds on AT&T.
hi i have recently heard that since the ics update the droid razr is now a world phone. does this mean i can use my phone with a tmobile sim?
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rehkhan97 said:
hi i have recently heard that since the ics update the droid razr is now a world phone. does this mean i can use my phone with a tmobile sim?
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Good question did you ever get a reply on this?
O think it only supports overseas such as the e.u. and all. I think you would only get 1x data no 3g
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DROID RAZR - UNLOCKED *DOES* WORK ON T-MOBILE USA and WIND MOBILE and V-TRON CANADA
Late thread revival... meant to respond to this one months ago! Whoops!
Anyway --- YES! This WILL indeed work with T-Mobile if you get the proper unlock code!
This has 4 different GSM frequency bands and 4 different UMTS frequency bands.
This means that you will get T-Mobile GPRS / EDGE coverage everywhere, T-Mobile 4G coverage in areas that are rolling over to 1900MHz as well as 3G roaming on AT&T in 850 and 1900MHz areas where T-Mobile doesn't have native coverage (Wausau, WI and Appleton, WI are two examples I can think of offhand)
Of course, you won't get LTE coverage, but you will get HSPA+ 4G / HSPA 3G and EDGE / GPRS on T-Mobile USA and Wind Mobile in Canada.
I'd like to try this.
Has anyone had verified success at this? I'd like to try if possible.
hilga007 said:
Late thread revival... meant to respond to this one months ago! Whoops!
Anyway --- YES! This WILL indeed work with T-Mobile if you get the proper unlock code!
This has 4 different GSM frequency bands and 4 different UMTS frequency bands.
This means that you will get T-Mobile GPRS / EDGE coverage everywhere, T-Mobile 4G coverage in areas that are rolling over to 1900MHz as well as 3G roaming on AT&T in 850 and 1900MHz areas where T-Mobile doesn't have native coverage (Wausau, WI and Appleton, WI are two examples I can think of offhand)
Of course, you won't get LTE coverage, but you will get HSPA+ 4G / HSPA 3G and EDGE / GPRS on T-Mobile USA and Wind Mobile in Canada.
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N7OKN said:
Has anyone had verified success at this? I'd like to try if possible.
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Not possible as of now.Neither anyone working on it that I know.
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I recently got a T-MO version the One, and signed up for the $30 prepaid plan. First time on this. I never see a "3G" signal icon on top, it's either 4G or 2G. Does the prepaid plan not offer 3G service??
I was under the impressive that the 1900MHz refarmed areas have 3G. I'm in the Seattle area and saw on the map that there's plenty of coverage around for it, but as I said above, I have never seen "3G" on my phone.
Can anyone clear up my confusion? Thanks!
T-Mobile calls their HSPA+ service 4G. People in other parts of the world see a 3G or H or H+ icon when they have what T-Mobile calls 4G. So that's how it's supposed to work. It's not like you see 3G over PCS and 4G over AWS; they're the same thing and both show up as 4G on the stock T-Mobile ROM.
teiglin said:
T-Mobile calls their HSPA+ service 4G. People in other parts of the world see a 3G or H or H+ icon when they have what T-Mobile calls 4G. So that's how it's supposed to work. It's not like you see 3G over PCS and 4G over AWS; they're the same thing and both show up as 4G on the stock T-Mobile ROM.
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So in layman's term? Cause today I noticed today that my phone had 4G and then 2G.
Evolancer13 said:
So in layman's term? Cause today I noticed today that my phone had 4G and then 2G.
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Think he's just saying that you won't see it called "3G" on the phone, because they market it as 4G.
My next question would be then, is there a difference in what you get with the 1700 and 1900MHz bands. Or are they the same 4G signal on different freqs?
Joshnor713 said:
Think he's just saying that you won't see it called "3G" on the phone, because they market it as 4G.
My next question would be then, is there a difference in what you get with the 1700 and 1900MHz bands. Or are they the same 4G signal on different freqs?
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That's a good simple explanation, thanks. It's all about the marketing. I usually refer to t-mo/att 4G HSPA+ as "faux-G" as a joke.
There's no theoretical difference between different frequencies. Practically speaking, there could be differences in congestion or coverage, but those are harder to evaluate obviously. Assuming a strong signal on either band, I'd expect them to perform more or less equivalently.
Joshnor713 said:
Think he's just saying that you won't see it called "3G" on the phone, because they market it as 4G.
My next question would be then, is there a difference in what you get with the 1700 and 1900MHz bands. Or are they the same 4G signal on different freqs?
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The refarmed 1900 band is limited to 21 Gb download. The HSPA+ on 1700 / 2100 allows 42 Gb download.
stevedebi said:
The refarmed 1900 band is limited to 21 Gb download. The HSPA+ on 1700 / 2100 allows 42 Gb download.
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With the prepaid plan, do you get access to both? I'm hoping that because it's a cheap plan, you don't get only the slower signal.
they dont do like AT&T does, you get access to LTE too, trust me i have to test the sites we get on air.