From the updated Anandtech N4 review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review/4
"...at present there really aren’t any Miracast standardized receivers. I tried a Netgear model which was pre-certification but couldn’t get the Nexus 4 to attach, although I’m told Netgear will update the NTV300SL to support Miracast by mid-December. I’d expect that the rest of their lineup will be ready around then.
"Until we have Miracast sinks everywhere there’s really no way for me to test how this works on the Nexus 4. The Nexus 10 doesn’t include Miracast support, I’m guessing because of memory bandwidth reasons possibly involved in scaling and encoding 2560x1600."
As far as I know, only Netgear PTV3000 is pre-certified. Has anyone tried with that?
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As far as I know, only Netgear PTV3000 is pre-certified. Has anyone tried with that?
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No Miracast in N7 3G (or plain N7) either:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/googles-nexus-7-gets-a-fresh-coat-of-paint-for-the-holidays/
"Android 4.2 on the Nexus 7 has no major surprises: all of the features we mentioned in our review are here, with the exception of Miracast (which is only supported on the Nexus 4 for the time being) and the new camera features (which are present if you install a third-party camera launcher for the front-facing camera). Multiuser support and lock screen widgets, two features that weren't ready in time for our main review, are also here, but we'll be examining them more closely in a separate article."
Miracast will be available after the update. Which happen last night. Now all you need is a receiver to do the handshaking. The netgear one would do and after it is on you wireless network you would just stream to it like you would a windows media extender. By 2013, so early next year tvs once they start calling them smart tvs :cyclops: will have this feature built into it. Here we come google tv. wouldnt that be sweet to have a nexus 60 inch tv?? or bigger.
n4, n7, n10, ntv, n60 maybe?? i see it happening.
Just to be clear to any readers out there, whether or not there will be Miracast support for the Nexus 10 is unknown and anyone stating otherwise is speculating. What is known is that there will be Miracast for the Nexus 4, but no official reports from google have come out for the Nexus 10.
The hardware support for wireless display looks to be there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34038283&postcount=19
Copied from Exynos 5250 thread -
"Came across this while researching Exynos 5250. Looks like the hardware is very capable to handle the WQXGA resolution with memory bandwidth and power to spare. This white paper also mentions the support for 1080p 60fps wireless display. So I hope Miracast will be reality as well, just Google needs to step up and utilize the hardware to its full potential. Its an interesting read none the less..
Sorry, can not post links yet.. replace _ with . and then try.
www_samsung_com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/ Enjoy_the_Ultimate_WQXGA_Solution_with_Exynos_5_Du al_WP.pdf
If the link does not work, google exynos 5 dual white paper."
Here's another piece of evidence to support that it's coming to the Nexus 10 (found this from another forum). On Google's Nexus 10 Support page it mentions Miracast. Scroll down to the Wifi-Direct section:
http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&answer=2780386
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Here's another piece of evidence to support that it's coming to the Nexus 10 (found this from another forum). On Google's Nexus 10 Support page it mentions Miracast. Scroll down to the Wifi-Direct section:
http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&answer=2780386
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Great, but are you sure this is not for Nexus 4?
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Great, but are you sure this is not for Nexus 4?
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Look closely at that page and you'll see it is specific to the Nexus 10
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Look closely at that page and you'll see it is specific to the Nexus 10
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Exactly. It's in the Nexus 10 section. Now, I'm not saying it's definitive proof, but it at least means that their online documentation does imply it'll have it.
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Look closely at that page and you'll see it is specific to the Nexus 10
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Great! Let's hope!
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Great! Let's hope!
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I phoned Google Tech Support this morning and asked if the Nexus 10 would have Miracast functionality "out of the box".
Tech guy couldn't answer for sure and promised to respond back to me later via email.
5 hours later, amazingly (to me anyway), I received an email back from him stating that he got clarification on this question and that, yes, Miracast is good to go "out of the box" on the Nexus 10.
I still won't believe it until someone with a unit confirms it.
Miracast is basically just a superset of WiFi Direct, doesn't require any additional hardware on the broadcast device...if it can use WiFi Direct, it can do Miracast with the proper software.
So I'm not worried about it being on the N10, if the software isn't there just yet, it will come.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracast
Yeah, I had called them and asked them too. He had no idea what Miracast was and so I explained it to him. He said he'll have to ask his supervisors and put me on hold. He came back and said "Yeah, you can stream and watch movies on your tv from your tablet and stuff." I said, "Yeah, but specifically Miracast...Does the Nexus 10 support Miracast?" He then said that's more of a hardware question and I'd need to call Asus. Asus huh? Interesting. Are they taking Samsung support calls now. I just ended it there knowing I wasn't going to get anywhere.
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Miracast is basically just a superset of WiFi Direct, doesn't require any additional hardware on the broadcast device...if it can use WiFi Direct, it can do Miracast with the proper software.
So I'm not worried about it being on the N10, if the software isn't there just yet, it will come.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracast
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My understanding is that while the capability might be there if Wifi-Direct is there, it still doesn't mean that it will be Miracast certified and thus might not be supported by Android.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/19/wi...certification-just-dont-expect-apple-to-play/
FWIW, I have a Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean 4.1.1, which supports Wi-Fi Direct. I also have a Netgear PTV3000 WiDi/Miracast capable adapter. My phone sees the adapter, but there is no mirroring to a display.
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FWIW, I have a Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean 4.1.1, which supports Wi-Fi Direct. I also have a Netgear PTV3000 WiDi/Miracast capable adapter. My phone sees the adapter, but there is no mirroring to a display.
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you must have missed the part where Miracast is a 4.2 feature?
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you must have missed the part where Miracast is a 4.2 feature?
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No, just sharing that a WiDi/Miracast capable adapter recognized a Wi-Fi Direct device, a substantiation of Croak's earlier post.
I'm now of the belief that the reason we haven't heard something official from Google is because the Nexus 10 has been submitted for Miracast Certification but is still under review. Makes complete sense. They can't say it supports Miracast until it passes Miracast Certification. They don't want to say it doesn't because they think they'll ultimately get the certification. So for now they just stay silent. Whereas the Nexus 4 has already completed Miracast Certification so that one they could officially announce. Perhaps the same reason they've been silent on the Nexus 7, which being that it has a Tegra 3 in it and Nvidia says Tegra 3's have built in support for Miracast and are working towards certification, should mean that theoretically it is capable.
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I'm now of the belief that the reason we haven't heard something official from Google is because the Nexus 10 has been submitted for Miracast Certification but is still under review. Makes complete sense. They can't say it supports Miracast until it passes Miracast Certification. They don't want to say it doesn't because they think they'll ultimately get the certification. So for now they just stay silent. Whereas the Nexus 4 has already completed Miracast Certification so that one they could officially announce. Perhaps the same reason they've been silent on the Nexus 7, which being that it has a Tegra 3 in it and Nvidia says Tegra 3's have built in support for Miracast and are working towards certification, should mean that theoretically it is capable.
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That actually makes a ton of sense. I also read somewhere that Netgear is working on updating the software on its PushTV3000 to support the Nexus devices that have Wifi Direct/Miracast. They hope to have that done by next week, apparently.
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Ok heres the dilemma. - Please can you check my though process here......
Ultimately its a Galaxy Tab vs Nexus 10 question but before you all yawn, for the purpose of this comparison, lets ignore which tablet is better in every respect except sending the screen to a TV in the room.
I'm figuring out a solution for a company with 5 meeting rooms in new premises. They have all their content on Google Mail / Drive and want to present to customers or have internal meetings and look up mails / watch Youtube videos / have video conference meetings on Hangout / Skype. They want to 'upgrade' from a desktop PC linked to a wall mounted TV. They want to buy cheap LCD TVs. The rooms all have a wall mounted power socket and ethernet port and wifi in the room. All directors have Samsung Galaxy 3S phones and all staff are being encouraged to move to this phone.
[I started by buying and testing one of those mini-android HDMI sticks but there are loads of security issues. This is a non starter. The Apps administrator has banned these devices. I can detail the security issue in another post if anyone wants to know.]
I have settled on a tablet solution. Its portable, secure and cheap.
Here is the problem...
If I go with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 then I get Allshare Cast. This means with a cheap dongle available now, I can retrofit a cheap TV and get pretty good screen share.
If I go with Nexus 10 I get Android 4.2 with multiple share, and Miracast but I am worried Miracast is gonna be like WiFi N where its not really available for another year or so. I cant find a dongle that is actually for sale and I saw a review on the Nexus 10 which said that Miracast is not on the device even though the OS support it.
I was wondering if I could get 'Allshare Cast' working on the Nexus as a stopgap until Miracast works?
Alternatively, I get the Galaxy tab now and then upgrade to Jellybean 4.2 in due course?
Last question... Will Samsung Galaxy 3S phone be able to send to Miracast screens via the Allshare Cast function. (will Miracast support All Share cast)?
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Ok heres the dilemma. - Please can you check my though process here......
Ultimately its a Galaxy Tab vs Nexus 10 question but before you all yawn, for the purpose of this comparison, lets ignore which tablet is better in every respect except sending the screen to a TV in the room.
I'm figuring out a solution for a company with 5 meeting rooms in new premises. They have all their content on Google Mail / Drive and want to present to customers or have internal meetings and look up mails / watch Youtube videos / have video conference meetings on Hangout / Skype. They want to 'upgrade' from a desktop PC linked to a wall mounted TV. They want to buy cheap LCD TVs. The rooms all have a wall mounted power socket and ethernet port and wifi in the room. All directors have Samsung Galaxy 3S phones and all staff are being encouraged to move to this phone.
[I started by buying and testing one of those mini-android HDMI sticks but there are loads of security issues. This is a non starter. The Apps administrator has banned these devices. I can detail the security issue in another post if anyone wants to know.]
I have settled on a tablet solution. Its portable, secure and cheap.
Here is the problem...
If I go with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 then I get Allshare Cast. This means with a cheap dongle available now, I can retrofit a cheap TV and get pretty good screen share.
If I go with Nexus 10 I get Android 4.2 with multiple share, and Miracast but I am worried Miracast is gonna be like WiFi N where its not really available for another year or so. I cant find a dongle that is actually for sale and I saw a review on the Nexus 10 which said that Miracast is not on the device even though the OS support it.
I was wondering if I could get 'Allshare Cast' working on the Nexus as a stopgap until Miracast works?
Alternatively, I get the Galaxy tab now and then upgrade to Jellybean 4.2 in due course?
Last question... Will Samsung Galaxy 3S phone be able to send to Miracast screens via the Allshare Cast function. (will Miracast support All Share cast)?
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This Galaxy Tab 10.1 (first gen) does not have Allshare Cast and will not be getting Jellybean. Need to ask your question in the right forum.
Why is it that once I connect to miracast it will disconnect from wifi? Is it hardware limitation or software bug? My Samsung note 2 can connect on both miracast and still maintain wifi connection.
kwanying said:
Why is it that once I connect to miracast it will disconnect from wifi? Is it hardware limitation or software bug? My Samsung note 2 can connect on both miracast and still maintain wifi connection.
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I believe that Sonys implementation of Miracast is wrong.
From what I read, Miracast it self allows for up to 10 connections and as you say your Samsung Galaxy Note 2 can handle both network connection and Miracast.
There's two threads at Sony's Xperia Forum that discuss this problem.
At first the Xperia Team said it was by design, but when several users explained that Samsung phones can have a Wifi connection active at the same time and that all Nexus phones running 4.2.2 could also handle this,
then the Xperia Team said that they would escalate the issue, but after that there has been no more feedback...
Here's the threads at Sony's Xperia Forum:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/127452?start=0&tstart=0
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/453753#453753
This is actually a really bad thing. I also purchased the push2tv system so could stream Netflix and YouTube from my tablet. No luck with that. My HTC one does it without problems.
I am starting to think that what if the random wifi disconnections are related and is because Sony uses only one antenna while there should be two.
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This is actually a really bad thing. I also purchased the push2tv system so could stream Netflix and YouTube from my tablet. No luck with that. My HTC one does it without problems.
I am starting to think that what if the random wifi disconnections are related and is because Sony uses only one antenna while there should be two.
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actually the tablet z uses MIMO and has 2 antennas. in my opinion it´s clearly a software restriction.
I had the same issue since i bought the dock and push2tv for the same reason. Unfortunately nothing so far. It is definitely a software problem as Sony seems to have fixed it with the Xperia Z Ultra. It works fine while still connected to wifi.
The Xperia Z disconnects also by the way.
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Is it a restriction on the S4, over Snapdragon 800? That could be why the Ultra (and then Honami) works.
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Is it a restriction on the S4, over Snapdragon 800? That could be why the Ultra (and then Honami) works.
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So it was not fixed with 4.2.2? LOL
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So it was not fixed with 4.2.2? LOL
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No. I have to assume it's a hardware restriction then, or Sony can't or won't fix it.
I am now using MHL, which seems like a far easier solution - although even that cuts the performance of the phone considerably. Epic Citadel can benchmark at around 59fps on the phone display, but output via HDMI and it drops things to 30-40fps.
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No. I have to assume it's a hardware restriction then, or Sony can't or won't fix it.
I am now using MHL, which seems like a far easier solution - although even that cuts the performance of the phone considerably. Epic Citadel can benchmark at around 59fps on the phone display, but output via HDMI and it drops things to 30-40fps.
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weird, some say it works on T, so why would XZ and XTZ be affected?
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weird, some say it works on T, so why would XZ and XTZ be affected?
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That's weird if it works on the T. I think this needs to be clarified. If it does, Sony really should be able to make it work, or else asked why they went backwards with the Z/TZ by changing the Wi-Fi specs/antennas.
I am going to go and check my Nexus 4 and see if that retains the connection. Previously I couldn't connect it to my TV but a new LG update on the TV has hopefully fixed things.
So did Sony really f*ck this up here. Unbelievable..I must say that I am so disappointed now. I was hoping to stream Netflix from the tablet.
Maybe I then have to get chromecast when available in Europe. I assume that it doesn't use miracast to do the streaming but likely it will stream on its own.
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So did Sony really f*ck this up here. Unbelievable..I must say that I am so disappointed now. I was hoping to stream Netflix from the tablet.
Maybe I then have to get chromecast when available in Europe. I assume that it doesn't use miracast to do the streaming but likely it will stream on its own.
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Right, just tried my Nexus 4 and it does keep the Wi-Fi connection. However, there's a lot more lag and the TV image doesn't quite keep up. What's more, the picture breaks up when it doesn't on the Xperia Z.
However, having an Internet connection does of course mean you can now stream TV and movies with Netflix or Google Play. Play crashed when playing a film though, and I have to say I didn't realise it could output a different screen. Netflix doesn't support this, and I'm not sure what else might (perhaps YouTube and other Google apps?).
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Forget it, guys.
This concept of streaming stuff from the tablet is going to fade anyway.
For Youtube, Netflix etc. simply shell out $35 and get a Chromecast.
Or buy a Raspberry Pi and make your own Chromecast-y device.
Or buy a Satellite receiver like the Vu+ Solo2 and use Airplayer plugin.
All these solutions have in common that the streaming happens on the other device, not the tablet, and therefore is simply more stable and reliable (especially when a wired network connection is used). The tablet is only a controller, a"chooser" for media. (That's also more battery-friendly, by the way.)
Yes I know it should keep the wifi connection. I am mirrorring with my HTC One and wifi doesn't disconnect.
Only problem with HTC One is that after using for an hour or so the phone will get so hot that I get some warning message about it.
So that much for watching a movie like that.
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Forget it, guys.
This concept of streaming stuff from the tablet is going to fade anyway.
For Youtube, Netflix etc. simply shell out $35 and get a Chromecast.
Or buy a Raspberry Pi and make your own Chromecast-y device.
Or buy a Satellite receiver like the Vu+ Solo2 and use Airplayer plugin.
All these solutions have in common that the streaming happens on the other device, not the tablet, and therefore is simply more stable and reliable (especially when a wired network connection is used). The tablet is only a controller, a"chooser" for media. (That's also more battery-friendly, by the way.)
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Yes thats basically the better way to do it. I also do have WDTV Live and I can basically use Youtube so that I control with tablet and play on the big screen. Unfortunately the software on WDTV Live is buggy as hell and it crashes every now and then.
Also for some reason Netflix doesn't have this similar possibility.
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Yes I know it should keep the wifi connection. I am mirrorring with my HTC One and wifi doesn't disconnect.
Only problem with HTC One is that after using for an hour or so the phone will get so hot that I get some warning message about it.
So that much for watching a movie like that.
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Yes thats basically the better way to do it. I also do have WDTV Live and I can basically use Youtube so that I control with tablet and play on the big screen. Unfortunately the software on WDTV Live is buggy as hell and it crashes every now and then.
Also for some reason Netflix doesn't have this similar possibility.
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I agree that the Chromecast way of doing things is the way forward for streaming services. However, I'd have liked to be able to play games without lag/dropped frames on the big-screen - and it seems that with or without the Wi-Fi connection staying open, the quality isn't quite there.
Maybe Snapdragon 800 improves this - and that could be something to sway me towards Honami - but perhaps Miracast will remain useful for showing off photo and videos stored locally (your own content) as a far better option than DLNA that rarely, if ever, works with modern video formats and resolutions.
Things like Miracast etc. are mostly used at home, where you have your TV or projector.
But at home it's not necessary to store the videos on a tablet and then stream them to the TV.
At home one has some kind of NAS from which the files are fetched.
I admit that for a long time I also thought about using the tablet as media hub / storage.
But if one thinks a bit about it and researches, it becomes obvious that much better and tried-and-tested options exist.
And for all other cases (like projecting different apps or playing a game on the big screen) the Tablet Z has a MHL/HDMI output, that's what it's for.
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And for all other cases (like projecting different apps or playing a game on the big screen) the Tablet Z has a MHL/HDMI output, that's what it's for.
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Even MHL slows the phone down, which must be a hardware limitation of the phone.
SlimPort is even worse. I don't know what sort of handshaking is carried out with that, but on my Nexus 4 when I was at CES I was on the stand of a company making them and we hooked my phone up to have the phone crash (even restarting on occasion) within seconds of connecting it.
I'd be interested to see if Snapdragon 800 has less problems with TV output, via Miracast or a cable - but the idea of using the smartphone as a remote to control streaming directly to a device (like a TV with a wired Internet connection) certainly makes sense. Google has once again come up with something great here, and it's probably totally the opposite of the direction Apple intends to take TV in the future.
Miracast
Hi guys, has anyone else had problems connecting their XTZ using miracast? I have the push2tv and my HTC One connects perfectly, but my Xperia tablet gives the error "Could not turn on screen mirroring. The output device does not support HDCP". It seems very strange as the tablet is listed the supported devices on Netgear's site.
I have the 312 version, and have the latest firmware on the push2tv.
this problem definitely not solved within 4.2 update. Dissapointing.
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This ist what I posted in the sony forum thread under talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Tablet-Z/Can-t-do-Screen-Mirroring-miracast-and-WiFi-connection/td-p/333179/page/3[/url]
Sooo, installed Cyanogenmod 10.2 (based on Android 4.3 which supports WiDi/Miracast natively) and see there:
WIDI/Miracast and the connection to my home WiFi Network work simultaneously.....!!!
So Sony, two lessons for you here:
1. Get of your collective ***** and get Android 4.3 going without nerfing perfectly fine core features
2. If you're going the forum/community way, provide correct information (aka really ask your developers) and don't spew half informed nonsense/play the information hiding game...
To everyone else here: give them ****, or they will never learn!
PS: Who wants to try, google Cyanogenmod ("Pollux" -for LTE variant- or "Pollux_Windy" -for WiFi only variant-). Warning!: Possible Warranty void when flashing custom ROMS
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=> SW Issue !!!
Will the new Nexus 6 have slimport capability? Looking at the Google store, it doesn't look good. It's not mentioned like the Nexus 5 ports. What are people going to do? I tried to use my Chromecast but while watching movies there is a bad delay between video and audio. Is that the plan?
According to GSM arena it does have slim port
http://m.gsmarena.com/motorola_nexus_6-6604.php
Awesome. My slim port adapter continues to get use even after my nexus 5 and nexus 7 have been sold
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According to this thread on reddit, someone contacted Analogix who then confirmed that the Nexus 6 won't have SlimPort compatibility. It's also not listed in Analogix's list of compatible SlimPort devices. Considering that GSMArena is literally the only source that claims the Nexus 6 has SlimPort compatibility, I would take this with a grain of salt. Hopefully we'll get some more clarity about this soon.
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According to this thread on reddit, someone contacted Analogix who then confirmed that the Nexus 6 won't have SlimPort compatibility. It's also not listed in Analogix's list of compatible SlimPort devices. Considering that GSMArena is literally the only source that claims the Nexus 6 has SlimPort compatibility, I would take this with a grain of salt. Hopefully we'll get some more clarity about this soon.
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oh man that really sucks . Making me think twice about getting rid of my nexus 7 now.
We really need somebody with an adapter and a N6 to plug this in and give it try.
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We really need somebody with an adapter and a N6 to plug this in and give it try.
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It's already been done......in another thread.....by me. It DOES NOT WORK. Doesn't mean that someone won't figure out how to activate it though. At least I'm hopeful it can be done......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/slimport-t2907272
So if slim port doesn't then what does? Is miracast the future.... Or chrome cast
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So if slim port doesn't then what does? Is miracast the future.... Or chrome cast
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I definitely believe Google is heading in that direction. The fact that there is a Cast Screen quick toggle makes it pretty obvious that Google wants us to use our chromecast's for this. Slimport didn't work for me either with the N6, looks like our only option is mirror casting.
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I definitely believe Google is heading in that direction. The fact that there is a Cast Screen quick toggle makes it pretty obvious that Google wants us to use our chromecast's for this. Slimport didn't work for me either with the N6, looks like our only option is mirror casting.
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Problem with this is, what if you're on the road? Chromecast in it's current state is not a good travel companion as it can't authenticate to most hotel wifi's.
Is miracast the future.
Miracast is the biggest crock of horse$%^& I've ever seen. So many devices I've had that passed through my hands with Miracast inside: "promised" "the future" "DLNA" "seemless" sorcery!
I'll take a good hardline any day of the year. This seems to smack of a backwards thinking move. Between this and the disabling the LED notification light...
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Problem with this is, what if you're on the road? Chromecast in it's current state is not a good travel companion as it can't authenticate to most hotel wifi's.
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Here's what I do when traveling. I have one of these. My traveling chromecast (and my phone) is set to this device's internal (secure) wi-fi. I can then use an app on my phone to connect the device to the hotel's public wi-fi (or ethernet, if that's available), and it acts as a bridge. If there's a login, I can do that from my phone as well, and the hotel will activate the MAC of the router, providing Internet access for all devices on the internal network (e.g. my chromecast).
What's more, this is an external battery. So, I can plug the chromecast's power into the battery, then plug the battery into the wall. The battery charges (in case I need it later for my phone) and the chromecast is powered, all with one wall adapter. (This particular battery can charge other devices while it's charging.)
It's a bit tedious, but it works.
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Here's what I do when traveling. I have one of these. My traveling chromecast (and my phone) is set to this device's internal (secure) wi-fi. I can then use an app on my phone to connect the device to the hotel's public wi-fi (or ethernet, if that's available), and it acts as a bridge. If there's a login, I can do that from my phone as well, and the hotel will activate the MAC of the router, providing Internet access for all devices on the internal network (e.g. my chromecast).
What's more, this is an external battery. So, I can plug the chromecast's power into the battery, then plug the battery into the wall. The battery charges (in case I need it later for my phone) and the chromecast is powered, all with one wall adapter. (This particular battery can charge other devices while it's charging.)
It's a bit tedious, but it works.
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Oh yeah, i'm set. I have a verizon mifi router that I can use with chromecast with an external battery pack. I'm macguyver, but I still prefer to have slimport. It's just quicker and easier and chromecast mirroring doesn't support all my mkv's audio.
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Oh yeah, i'm set. I have a verizon mifi router that I can use with chromecast with an external battery pack. I'm macguyver, but I still prefer to have slimport. It's just quicker and easier and chromecast mirroring doesn't support all my mkv's audio.
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The only problem with that is that you're using your Verizon data pool. Not a biggie if you're granfathered into their unlimited data, but could be an issue if you're not. HD movies (even at 720P) can really chew through your data allowance.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KU2E9IW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
i use a similar gadget (in the above link) also for quick overnight trips as well.
just simpler than wires..
bmstrong said:
Is miracast the future.
Miracast is the biggest crock of horse$%^& I've ever seen. So many devices I've had that passed through my hands with Miracast inside: "promised" "the future" "DLNA" "seemless" sorcery!
I'll take a good hardline any day of the year. This seems to smack of a backwards thinking move. Between this and the disabling the LED notification light...
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You like my comment? Ha! I hated miracast....worked like crap on my 4 and 5
Hi guys,
I just received a few hours ago my Nexus 9 and I checked both, Slimport and MHL but doesn't work. The Slimport device works fine with my Nexus 5 and my TV but the Nexus 9 doesn't work.
Cheers.
Worst nexus device ever.
Caelrie said:
Worst nexus device ever.
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I'm very disappointed with this issue...
Maybe could be a problem with the inside configuration of my Slimport, I had notice that some Slimport works fine in some devices but doesn't work in others due changes inside micro usb port (different cable connections).
But still.... In my Nexus 5 the Slimport works absolutely fine....
Caelrie said:
Worst nexus device ever.
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somehow it seems you hit the nail. i was very waiting for the nexus 9 and i am so disapointed what i see about it that it makes me really sad. this device is so full of wrong decisions, irrational design flaws and build quality issues that i am nearly speachless. and then it is quite expensive for the few it offers.
it is quite "interesting" that the nexus 6 PHONE gets 3GB ram, upto 64GB rom and the 64bit os nexus 9 only 2GB and a zram swap using 512MB to gain a little bit by compression >.> and then it seems to have some issues with otg, lack of micro hdmi or slimport etc.
i don't get it. what's the point htc? trying to debut as the worst nexus manufactor ever?
Terrible. This is the final nail in the coffin for my "should I get the Nexus 9" decision. Glad I got the Shield Tablet at release and will stick with that for a while now, probably until Nvidia release their next tab.
I have a Google answer about this but I can't post links after 10 post
In google groups, in product forums go to Nexus 9 and find mi post named "Nexus 9 and Slimport doesn't work"
They said to me that the micro usb port doesn't support video output.
Hi guys,
So if I get everything right that means : the new Nexus 9 doesn't have wireless charging. It doesn't have support for MHL nor SlimPort.
OK : maybe it's really handy with a Chromecast key... but that's a foul limitation.
Chromecast simply does not work when you have no Wi-Fi.
I'm a professor.
I teach at University.
I want to be able to show .ppt presentations to my students.
But I don't always have a network, or the LP to the University network.
So, I just can't do it ? While I coudl do it with my Nexus 7 2012 ?
That is a huge step backwards... and I think for that simple reason I won't get the Nexus 9 but will try to find a nice N7 2013 LTE instead...
Chances are, I'll have more functionnality and pay less than the half !
The real sad thing about that is that the "Nexus Legend" is vanishing... Not fading, but melting like a snowflake in August !
Bye Bye Nexus... Loved the N4, loved the N7 2012, loved the N5...
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi guys,
So if I get everything right that means : the new Nexus 9 doesn't have wireless charging. It doesn't have support for MHL nor SlimPort.
OK : maybe it's really handy with a Chromecast key... but that's a foul limitation.
Chromecast simply does not work when you have no Wi-Fi.
I'm a professor.
I teach at University.
I want to be able to show .ppt presentations to my students.
But I don't always have a network, or the LP to the University network.
So, I just can't do it ? While I coudl do it with my Nexus 7 2012 ?
That is a huge step backwards... and I think for that simple reason I won't get the Nexus 9 but will try to find a nice N7 2013 LTE instead...
Chances are, I'll have more functionnality and pay less than the half !
The real sad thing about that is that the "Nexus Legend" is vanishing... Not fading, but melting like a snowflake in August !
Bye Bye Nexus... Loved the N4, loved the N7 2012, loved the N5...
Regards.
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Haven't Google announced that Chromecast will work without a WiFi network in the last google IO?
clubtech said:
Haven't Google announced that Chromecast will work without a WiFi network in the last google IO?
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Hi,
Well, it might be.
Shall investigate this further.
Anyways, I don't think the Nexus 9 will make it to my door : too expensive for a feature limited tablet.
Regards.
Likely just not a popular thing to have. I have a slimport cable that i just never used for the past year once I got chromecast. Now i understand I'm not a professor with that specific need. if that's a deal breaker I'd just return it get a 2013 N7 and spend the $300 you save on something else. maybe a shield tablet. Tablets, tablets everywhere!
I'm really pissed of with Google, it seems that their ways to stop us from using what they doesn't want is by killing what we use...
My Nexus 5X already died into the bootloop issue, and today I've just seen that the Nexus 6P is having the exact same issue, which they say as a faulty hardware (Really? 2 completely different brands, with the EXACT SAME ISSUE? You must to be kidding me..).
This is not the first time that Google is killing what we use.
I'm a user of Miracast technology, since marshmallow it wasn't present, but you could activate via a build.prop tweak if you are rooted, in nougat they introduced a bug (yes, intentionally), that the phone will crash If you this tweak and connect to the tv, forcing me to buy their Chromecast 2.
This is not the only thing, have you ever wondered why the hell it doesn't has QI charging? To make us to use their "Fast charging USB C solution..
The Nexus 6 has also had something similar with it's notification LED, which can be activated only If rooted..
Now I really don't know what to do, I'm thinking of downgrading to Marshmallow before my phone got into bootloop, and not having another paper weight on my desk.
The only thing i can assure is that my next phone will be an Galaxy S8, and not another Google Crap phone.
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I'm really pissed of with Google, it seems that their ways to stop us from using what they doesn't want is by killing what we use...
My Nexus 5X already died into the bootloop issue, and today I've just seen that the Nexus 6P is having the exact same issue, which they say as a faulty hardware (Really? 2 completely different brands, with the EXACT SAME ISSUE? You must to be kidding me..).
This is not the first time that Google is killing what we use.
I'm a user of Miracast technology, since marshmallow it wasn't present, but you could activate via a build.prop tweak if you are rooted, in nougat they introduced a bug (yes, intentionally), that the phone will crash If you this tweak and connect to the tv, forcing me to buy their Chromecast 2.
This is not the only thing, have you ever wondered why the hell it doesn't has QI charging? To make us to use their "Fast charging USB C solution..
The Nexus 6 has also had something similar with it's notification LED, which can be activated only If rooted..
Now I really don't know what to do, I'm thinking of downgrading to Marshmallow before my phone got into bootloop, and not having another paper weight on my desk.
The only thing i can assure is that my next phone will be an Galaxy S8, and not another Google Crap phone.
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So that's why Miracast no longer works. ?
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I agree. It is getting ridiculous. All of the reasons we love the Nexus line are becoming blurry. Miracast is a huge one. Smart tv, Xbox One, and now I have to have a damn Chromecast as well. I'm starting to feel like Apple users must feel. Poor souls.
I don't understand. My Miracast works perfectly fine with Panasonic TVs and LG.
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I don't understand. My Miracast works perfectly fine with Panasonic TVs and LG.
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Are you on stock 7.1? Also did you enabled in build.prop and it worked?
My device won't work with my Samsung TV JS7200 or Windows 10 Miracast receiver.
rcoliveirajr said:
Are you on stock 7.1? Also did you enabled in build.prop and it worked?
My device won't work with my Samsung TV JS7200 or Windows 10 Miracast receiver.
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I am on stock 7.0.1 (latest). I didn't change anything in build.prop. I just go to Settings -> Display -> Cast
I've read online that it works with older Miracast (first, second gen) TVs. For e.g. it works with Roku 3 but not 4.
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This is not the only thing, have you ever wondered why the hell it doesn't has QI charging? To make us to use their "Fast charging USB C solution..
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Given that the 6P has a metal build and that no other metal phones(from the top of my head) have Qi charging, I would assume it was due to the the metal build. And in regards to saying that they are just trying to sell "Fast Charging USB C solution", wouldn't you think that they would generate more revenue from implementing a convenient way to charge a phone?
Based on your opinion and what you had said, it sounds like the S8 is the perfect device for you. It's so great to have a plethora of device choices!
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richii0207 said:
Given that the 6P has a metal build and that no other metal phones(from the top of my head) have Qi charging, I would assume it was due to the the metal build. And in regards to saying that they are just trying to sell "Fast Charging USB C solution", wouldn't you think that they would generate more revenue from implementing a convenient way to charge a phone?
Based on your opinion and what you had said, it sounds like the S8 is the perfect device for you. It's so great to have a plethora of device choices!
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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Well, my dead Nexus 5X has a plastic body and Google removed QI Charger from it too, something I found really useful, which I was using since Nexus 4 and had to stop on the new ones..
mihovil13 said:
I am on stock 7.0.1 (latest). I didn't change anything in build.prop. I just go to Settings -> Display -> Cast
I've read online that it works with older Miracast (first, second gen) TVs. For e.g. it works with Roku 3 but not 4.
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Oh, didn't know that.
But I totally understand you.
Google played a "good guy" comparing to Apple for a few years now, and I really saw this coming. Basically they're just the same. Profit, profit, profit.
You want to cast? Buy a Chromecast.
I really wouldn't be surprised if their Project Fi gains success, and they decide to lock their future devices to their own network.
Nokia years ago was really something else, but it was in the way of the American capitalism so they had to remove it from their perfect market picture.
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I am on stock 7.0.1 (latest). I didn't change anything in build.prop. I just go to Settings -> Display -> Cast
I've read online that it works with older Miracast (first, second gen) TVs. For e.g. it works with Roku 3 but not 4.
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I can confirm that miracast works on my Roku 3. I am stock 7.1.1. not rooted.