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Hey guys I am up for a replacement on 8/20. I can't decide to get the s3 or the nexus
The s3 has so many features I love over the nexus.better battery life, bigger screen, more ram and a better processor.but the nexus has jellybean already.maybe some members who previously had a nexus can chime in and tell their personal opinion about the phones that would be awesome.thanks guys
Nexus or Sgs 3 and you thinkng??
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If you are aware for all of these advanteages, than why are you even asking?
It seems like you already know the answer
bottom line WHY GET AN OLD PHONE???
S3 is newer.....cant wait for the Note 2. that will be my next new toy.
I have both the Nexus and S3.
I haven't got around to putting on Jellybean on the Nexus yet.
The S3 feels better in your hand and runs smoother, thanks to the better CPU. The bigger screen is certainly better and doesn't feel awkward either.
The notification light on the S3 is much brighter and more vivid than on the Nexus.
You will also notice how much lighter and thinner the S3 is to the Nexus.
The MicroSD port in the S3 is a nice addition too, something which the Nexus doesn't have.
TouchWiz isn't that bad either and it doesn't seem to slow down the S3.
The only bad thing about the S3 is that the back cover, once removed is actually a bit flimsy. But once its on the main unit, the S3 device as a whole seems to be good quality. Not metal, but not cheap plastic either.
All in all the S3 is a generation ahead of the Nexus, no question about it.
I'm not the biggest Samsung fan, however, if the S3 has all that over the Nexus, I'd certainly go for the Sammy. The Android OS will/can be changed/updated by rooting it. That would give you all the benefits of the better hardware combined w/better roms anyway. If HTC is out of the running, Moto has nothing to offer (american made) and Nexus is that dated then my vote is the S3.
That said, I can't wait to get rid of my kindle fire for the new nexus tablet, that thing is the ****
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If your using an upgrade get the S3 and worst case trade for nexus + cash. If your buying outright consider value for price/performance ratio... ie: nexus ~$300 vs gs3 ~$600 is the gs3 worth almost double? Is it almost twice as good?
Don't get me wrong I love the gs3 lasts all day does it all, has a micro SD, no direct updates/vanilla experience yet AND its quite a bit more.. I could easily have a nexus + nexus 7 vs my 1 gs3....
Just something to consider
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kidhudi said:
Hey guys I am up for a replacement on 8/20. I can't decide to get the s3 or the nexus
The s3 has so many features I love over the nexus.better battery life, bigger screen, more ram and a better processor.but the nexus has jellybean already.maybe some members who previously had a nexus can chime in and tell their personal opinion about the phones that would be awesome.thanks guys
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I am in the same boat, dude.
No microSD card on the Nexus is actually a deal breaker for me. Gorilla glass is a necessity - i hate scratch phones. Sound quality for me is a priority and SIII wins hands down.
Thoughts for SIII:
- SD card
- Wolfson DAC
- BT apt-x
- gorilla glass
- better camera
- quad core
Well, the advantages of Nexus:
- price (around £120 less in this country)
- it is google = no bloat, good support, speedy updates
I think the wise decision would be go for SIII when the price drops a little (after iPhoney 5 is introduced)
Thanks guys I am 99 percent going with the s3. I just didn't want to be in same boat so am in right now with this thunderbolt.because of ril issues the t-bolt is still stuck in gingerbread.don't get me wrong the t-bolt has amazing devs.but htc sucks with updating.the phone. I see there is a port for JB already for the s3 but I fear it will be a dead project like all the t-bolt ICS
Roms. This is definitely my last HTC product.
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I see there is a port for JB already for the s3 but I fear it will be a dead project like all the t-bolt ICS
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I hope I'm not misunderstanding you but you have NO reason to fear Jellybean becoming a dead project on the S3. Maybe that specific thread will die, but there absolutely will be Jellybean roms for the S3. Many I'm guessing. Just give it a month or two.
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I hope I'm not misunderstanding you but you have NO reason to fear Jellybean becoming a dead project on the S3. Maybe that specific thread will die, but there absolutely will be Jellybean roms for the S3. Many I'm guessing. Just give it a month or two.
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Yes that was my fear. the ICS roms on the t-bolt have been in limbo for months now. I am a flash-a-holic and i wanted to make sure this device would be cool. I would love to see a 100% working port of the release for the nexus on this phone. I am dying to check out the new google search feature. blow my i-freak freinds out of the water . they think siri is good wait till they see this.:laugh:
Hey all just looking for some opinions on whether I should wait for the n4 or just upgrade to the s3 now. I'm on tmobile, so the lack of lte is not a big deal to me. My biggest concerns are with the non removable battery and lack of sd on the n4. Plus the s3 has a ton of development already.
As you can probably tell, I'm pretty conflicted. Just wanted to hear some other opinions.
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ninjasalad said:
Hey all just looking for some opinions on whether I should wait for the n4 or just upgrade to the s3 now. I'm on tmobile, so the lack of lte is not a big deal to me. My biggest concerns are with the non removable battery and lack of sd on the n4. Plus the s3 has a ton of development already.
As you can probably tell, I'm pretty conflicted. Just wanted to hear some other opinions.
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Nexus 4 is the better phone. It has a better display that the Galaxy S 3, it is cheaper and does not require a contract. It has a faster processor as well as better battery life. It's development will take off faster than you can even imagine, this is because it is a nexus, one of the most heavily developed upon devices.
One other device you might want to consider is the Galaxy Note 2, it runs circles around the Galaxy S 3, it is already out for T-Mobile. It isn't for everyone, but I have the first one and absolutely love mine.
Is space a big thing? If so get a s3. Battery on the s3 is about 28hrs with around 4hrs screen time of moderate use, thats on the stock battery and they have expanded ones that double.
What phobe are you coming from? Do you like touchwiz? Or would you run a AOSP rom on the s3? If i had the choice i would go with the Nexus but a lot of people love the s3 too.
The s3 has a bigger screen which is nice if u watch stuff a lot. The s3 is kind of slippery if you have sweaty/greasy hands (which i do and hate it). They just announced today that the 64gig international is open for pre sales so not that long for the states i would think. That and a 64gig card and you would have a 128gig phone which is awsome! But really its up to you.
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Nexus 4 is the better phone. It has a better display that the Galaxy S 3, it is cheaper and does not require a contract. It has a faster processor as well as better battery life. It's development will take off faster than you can even imagine, this is because it is a nexus, one of the most heavily developed upon devices.
One other device you might want to consider is the Galaxy Note 2, it runs circles around the Galaxy S 3, it is already out for T-Mobile. It isn't for everyone, but I have the first one and absolutely love mine.
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You could say that the N4 is better if you want. But that will never translate into fact. Because better is an opinion based on what is better suited to ones needs. I can tell you this, to me personally the N4 is not an adequate device. The s3 on the other hand is by far superior in my opinion. I can almost guarantee that most people will not be able to tell the difference between either screen's. And if they could, it will be minor at best. Reason for it is because the screen's are to small to make a big impact on the difference.
So the N4 has a better processor? Perhaps it is faster. But does any one know how it truly runs in a real world use? No they do not. It is not out yet. Now, when I tell you that the S3 is fast. I mean it. It is fast, and on the stock firmware at that. With JB on here it is even better even wit a JellyWiz ROM. This phone is fantastic in all aspects.
To the OP, what is the most important feature to you. Base your decisions on that.
For me a removable mSD card is invaluable. And a removable battery is also. I am not a cloud person when it comes to certain business practices and or personal info. That is where the removable media comes in for me. Also, take into consideration data charges. All carriers will move to step data pricing. Even TMobile will eventually. Heck I have VZW and unlimited data. And I still want a card slot. The screen and processor upgrade and supposed better battery does not do this for me. And I would expect it wouldn't do it for you either.
Granted the N4 will have development or updates far after the S3. But quite frankly, that does not concern me. Once I got my phone working g exactly the way I want bit with the ROM and Kernel. I am golden. I don't need.
Question is, do you want to control your data. Or do you want to hand over your data freedom to that of corporations and governments? Do you eventually want to pay extra fees if you are in a pick and need to sent and or receive info from the cloud? All because data fees are stupid expensive?
Just so that you know. The S3 mSD slot is positions in such a way that is easily on the fly with a battery in.
@ willblake13. I would love to try out the Note2. Sounds like a very awesome device.
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You could say that the N4 is better if you want. But that will never translate into fact. Because better is an opinion based on what is better suited to ones needs. I can tell you this, to me personally the N4 is not an adequate device. The s3 on the other hand is by far superior in my opinion. I can almost guarantee that most people will not be able to tell the difference between either screen's. And if they could, it will be minor at best. Reason for it is because the screen's are to small to make a big impact on the difference.
So the N4 has a better processor? Perhaps it is faster. But does any one know how it truly runs in a real world use? No they do not. It is not out yet. Now, when I tell you that the S3 is fast. I mean it. It is fast, and on the stock firmware at that. With JB on here it is even better even wit a JellyWiz ROM. This phone is fantastic in all aspects.
To the OP, what is the most important feature to you. Base your decisions on that.
For me a removable mSD card is invaluable. And a removable battery is also. I am not a cloud person when it comes to certain business practices and or personal info. That is where the removable media comes in for me. Also, take into consideration data charges. All carriers will move to step data pricing. Even TMobile will eventually. Heck I have VZW and unlimited data. And I still want a card slot. The screen and processor upgrade and supposed better battery does not do this for me. And I would expect it wouldn't do it for you either.
Granted the N4 will have development or updates far after the S3. But quite frankly, that does not concern me. Once I got my phone working g exactly the way I want bit with the ROM and Kernel. I am golden. I don't need.
Question is, do you want to control your data. Or do you want to hand over your data freedom to that of corporations and governments? Do you eventually want to pay extra fees if you are in a pick and need to sent and or receive info from the cloud? All because data fees are stupid expensive?
Just so that you know. The S3 mSD slot is positions in such a way that is easily on the fly with a battery in.
@ willblake13. I would love to try out the Note2. Sounds like a very awesome device.
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Hit the nail on the head, One thing I would have to argue with is that the nexus 4 will be late to get updates. Nexus devices are usually the first to get new operating systems. Just look at the Xoom. Once the development takes off, this device will be light years ahead of all of the other's in terms of updates. It launches already packed with 4.2! Google looks out for their nexus device users.
As for the SOC of the Nexus 4 I. I have to agree that we will not know for sure until we get our hands on it. But look at the Nexus history, seems like they are the phones that are pushing the companys that make the hardware that android runs on to do better. This is just my opinion.
I'm currently using an HTC Sensation running cm10. I hate touchwiz, wish the manufacturers would stop adding their own skins. I could understand it in earlier versions of android, but with the introduction of ics I see no need. They just slow down updates. However, I plan on flashing an aosp rom if I get an s3, so that's not a big deal.
My contract is a 2gb cap, so this push to cloud storage and streaming isn't really for me. I like removable batteries, as I am a bit of a flashaholic. I'm not sure of the impact on battery life the quad core will have, and dual core seems more than sufficient (perhaps not in 2 years?) Oh, camera is a big deal too, doesn't the s3 have a superior ffc? I'm not a huge fan of the plastic chassis of the s3, but it's not a big concern to me.
I guess I'm just wondering on how much development there will be for the n4. Alas, it's all speculation, from performance to battery life
Are any s3 users planning on upgrading?
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ninjasalad said:
I'm currently using an HTC Sensation running cm10. I hate touchwiz, wish the manufacturers would stop adding their own skins. I could understand it in earlier versions of android, but with the introduction of ics I see no need. They just slow down updates. However, I plan on flashing an aosp rom if I get an s3, so that's not a big deal.
My contract is a 2gb cap, so this push to cloud storage and streaming isn't really for me. I like removable batteries, as I am a bit of a flashaholic. I'm not sure of the impact on battery life the quad core will have, and dual core seems more than sufficient (perhaps not in 2 years?) Oh, camera is a big deal too, doesn't the s3 have a superior ffc? I'm not a huge fan of the plastic chassis of the s3, but it's not a big concern to me.
I guess I'm just wondering on how much development there will be for the n4. Alas, it's all speculation, from performance to battery life
Are any s3 users planning on upgrading?
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If you are just wondering about development, head on over to the HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus forums. That should give you an idea
The whole cloud thing was a wasted argument until we know how much media OP will be using. For most people, 16GB is enough, and even 8GB will be enough for some. MicroSD is a whole different problem, since the ability to take out your storage and use a card reader, or if your phone breaks then you have no way of retrieving your data are pretty important to me. That's just something to remember, it won't matter if you be careful.
This brings us the the whole nonremovable battery problem. What this would cause is the inability to swap out a new battery or use an extended battery. There is a virtual battery pull option which is hardware triggered, so battery pull problem solved. The fact that the battery is nonremovable boosted the battery size though, since a removable battery causes changes to the inside of the phone to make it easier to take out actually lowers battery capacity.
Extra cores helps with battery life, especially when they are all not being used. And people do know how it runs in real life usage. LG Optimus G, ever heard of it? The S4 Pro rivals the Apple A6, and the regular S4 does not match up. Without the LG skin to slow it down, the Nexus 4 should be even faster.
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Hey guys, my contract expires in a month and I am looking at a couple of new phones to buy. I currently own a Droid Incredible, and I absolutely love it. The only thing that I don't like about it is that it has poor battery life, and it's kind of slow. Things that I do like about it are that I have a plethora of roms to choose from and it has great development support. Some phones that I am looking to buy are the Droid Razr Maxx HD, Samsung Galaxy S3, and the Google Nexus. Can you tell me about the pros and cons of the S3? How is the developer support for this phone? I appreciate any help!
Developer support isn't the worst but it isn't the best, the Exynos 4412 is Faster than it needs to be, don't go for a Snapdragon S4 Quad just because its faster... the differences are minimal.
If I was you I would get the Nexus 4 over the Galaxy Nexus if you were to get a Nexus device.
Cons:
Not much.
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Hey guys, my contract expires in a month and I am looking at a couple of new phones to buy. I currently own a Droid Incredible, and I absolutely love it. The only thing that I don't like about it is that it has poor battery life, and it's kind of slow. Things that I do like about it are that I have a plethora of roms to choose from and it has great development support. Some phones that I am looking to buy are the Droid Razr Maxx HD, Samsung Galaxy S3, and the Google Nexus. Can you tell me about the pros and cons of the S3? How is the developer support for this phone? I appreciate any help!
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CUSTOM ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1566
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1685
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everything is great with this phone, developer community, xda support community is good, frequency of software updates from samsung is also good compared to other OEMs at the moment...overall phone experience is excellent and you will not be disappointed...however, sgs3 suffers from two issues...
1) stock Contacts & Phone App lags, takes 3-4 seconds to open for the first time and will not stay in memory for a long time for fast opening..this sucks...work around is avaliable like Exdialer app from play store or Jkay mod for SGS3 to keep contacts and dialer app in memory always.
2) heavy apps installed from market cannot be moved into external memory (memory stick)...work around available though I guess..!
If you are comfortable flashing a custom rom, kernel or mods, then it's a wonderful phone.
Stock experience is good but has some shortcomings like mentioned before.
Overall, I think it's the most balanced device right now. Removable battery and micro sd slot surely give it an edge and it's not as large as a Note.
Xperia Z would be also a great choice if you decide to wait. Seems that it would be a better choice IF you can wait a month or two.
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@TheCraig: what do you mean it isn't the best? Like, the dev support for the droid incredible is great. The phone is 3 years old but we still have about 5 jelly bean roms, and 2 4.2 unofficial nightly roms which is great!
@gchindi: well, i am not too worried about the contacts and phone apks taking a while to load. and how big apk files are we talking about?
@drakester09: yeah, i am addicted to flashing. I have a gtab 2 so i'm familiar with the rooting process for samsung devices as well. i don't like the stock interface too much. i can't stand touchwiz for some reason lol.
thanks for your help guys. can one of you upload a screenshot of your battery usage graphs too? just for comparison with my battery life. i'd greatly appreciate that.
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@TheCraig: what do you mean it isn't the best? Like, the dev support for the droid incredible is great. The phone is 3 years old but we still have about 5 jelly bean roms, and 2 4.2 unofficial nightly roms which is great!
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he was talking about the SGS3, I thought you were too
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he was talking about the SGS3, I thought you were too
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haha let me clarify. i was telling him what the dev support is like on the dinc so that he could compare it to the dev support on the gs3.
oh, I got you.
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@TheCraig: what do you mean it isn't the best? Like, the dev support for the droid incredible is great. The phone is 3 years old but we still have about 5 jelly bean roms, and 2 4.2 unofficial nightly roms which is great!
@gchindi: well, i am not too worried about the contacts and phone apks taking a while to load. and how big apk files are we talking about?
@drakester09: yeah, i am addicted to flashing. I have a gtab 2 so i'm familiar with the rooting process for samsung devices as well. i don't like the stock interface too much. i can't stand touchwiz for some reason lol.
thanks for your help guys. can one of you upload a screenshot of your battery usage graphs too? just for comparison with my battery life. i'd greatly appreciate that.
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I meant to say the dev support for the Galaxy S3, which isn't massively impressive compared to the Nexus, but that's expected as AOSP is made for Nexus.
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I meant to say the dev support for the Galaxy S3, which isn't massively impressive compared to the Nexus, but that's expected as AOSP is made for Nexus.
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Ohh OK. I was going threw the development forum and it looks pretty good.
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It's has great hardware but horrible software specially Ram Management.
For example, you wanna enjoy some tracks while browsing web ?
Forget it, the songs start to shutter .
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It's has great hardware but horrible software specially Ram Management.
For example, you wanna enjoy some tracks while browsing web ?
Forget it, the songs start to shutter .
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Easily fixed with a new kernel or ROM.
Worst thing about Samsung bloatware, but that isn't as bad with the I9305 and its 2G ram.
I'd wait for the SGS4!
LG, Lucky Goldstar anything but...
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Yeah, I'd hold off for a few months if you can - get a discount off your monthly bill from your service provider, save that money, then pull the trigger on a brand new S4 when that comes out. S3 is a great phone, and there's nothing else I'd rather have at the moment (except maybe the i9305 with more RAM, although a much weaker dev scene). But with the S4 release within spitting distance now, you'd be mad not to wait. Unless cost is an issue, in which case I'd still say wait, cos the S3 will drop in price quite a bit when the S4 is released. Might as well get yourself synced up with the Galaxy S release cycle now, cos once you have one you're unlikely to want to go elsewhere. I did buy myself a Nexus 4 when that came out, but the only benefits that had was the software (if you're into vanilla Android) and two gigs of RAM. EVERYTHING else was inferior to my S3, so I ended up sending the N4 back.
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Yeah, I'd hold off for a few months if you can - get a discount off your monthly bill from your service provider, save that money, then pull the trigger on a brand new S4 when that comes out. S3 is a great phone, and there's nothing else I'd rather have at the moment (except maybe the i9305 with more RAM, although a much weaker dev scene). But with the S4 release within spitting distance now, you'd be mad not to wait. Unless cost is an issue, in which case I'd still say wait, cos the S3 will drop in price quite a bit when the S4 is released. Might as well get yourself synced up with the Galaxy S release cycle now, cos once you have one you're unlikely to want to go elsewhere. I did buy myself a Nexus 4 when that came out, but the only benefits that had was the software (if you're into vanilla Android) and two gigs of RAM. EVERYTHING else was inferior to my S3, so I ended up sending the N4 back.
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i was thinking about waiting for the s4 but i don't know when exactly it will come out. regardless, i probably won't buy it since i personally think that it might be too over powered and the battery life will take a hit, but hey, you never know. you're right about the S3's cost dropping though. i was looking at the nexus 4, but the no microSD card
(at least that's what i've read) was a complete turn off for me.
40 million S3 units sold, having come from HTC I can see why just on the quality of components Samsung uses in it's phones. I had a choice between the new nexus and the S3, the removable battery and sd card sold it for me but I'm very impressed by how well the software works. All my phones up to now had AOSP, this is the first that has ( albeit a stripped down version) a stock ROM onboard after three months use.
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40 million S3 units sold, having come from HTC I can see why just on the quality of components Samsung uses in it's phones. I had a choice between the new nexus and the S3, the removable battery and sd card sold it for me but I'm very impressed by how well the software works. All my phones up to now had AOSP, this is the first that has ( albeit a stripped down version) a stock ROM onboard after three months use.
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Yeah the s3 is pretty great. I've played around with it and I really like it. Is the battery life good with touchwiz or is it better with cm10.1?
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Its all about choice. I have a nexus 7 which is a bigger version of the Google nexus in theory. Do you mean Google nexus or the nexus 4? I have to say that I love the jelly bean on the nexus and especially the user interface which I think is very simple to use on my nexus7. The RAZR maxx has the best battery life out of any phone I have seen on the market. My friend has one and funnily enough I have a s3. The s3 is brilliant you can really feel and see the quality Samsung put into making their phones. I came from HTC myself after having alot of issues with the one x . I would recommend either the nexus 4, simply because of the software and easy access and the s3 because of the removable battery and SD card which is what made me go for the s3 rather than the nexus
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i was thinking about waiting for the s4 but i don't know when exactly it will come out. regardless, i probably won't buy it since i personally think that it might be too over powered and the battery life will take a hit, but hey, you never know. you're right about the S3's cost dropping though. i was looking at the nexus 4, but the no microSD card
(at least that's what i've read) was a complete turn off for me.
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I highly doubt this will be the case - the battery life will be no worse than the S3 (most likely better). Chances are it will have a bigger battery as well as a better CPU (which will have better power management). The possibly larger screen and 1080P will obviously have a negative effect. This is obviously basing off rumour specs (and no one will really know until the phone is released), though point is, just because the phone is more powerful doesn't mean the battery life will be worse. The S3 is more powerful than the S2, though has better battery life (for me anyways).
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Its all about choice. I have a nexus 7 which is a bigger version of the Google nexus in theory. Do you mean Google nexus or the nexus 4? I have to say that I love the jelly bean on the nexus and especially the user interface which I think is very simple to use on my nexus7. The RAZR maxx has the best battery life out of any phone I have seen on the market. My friend has one and funnily enough I have a s3. The s3 is brilliant you can really feel and see the quality Samsung put into making their phones. I came from HTC myself after having alot of issues with the one x . I would recommend either the nexus 4, simply because of the software and easy access and the s3 because of the removable battery and SD card which is what made me go for the s3 rather than the nexus
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Yeah, the Nexus 4. What was wrong with your One X? But yeah, I think I'm going to go with the S3. It has a lot of roms (so that beats out the raxr) and it has a micro SD(beating put the Nexus). Having a rooted droid incredible has kind of made those two things a necessity for me.
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I know there are probably a lot of these threads all ready l, but this is this is a tough decision for me. I've had a hard time finding a comparison of the two devices that goes beyond the gimmicky Samsung features and the screen. My decision really has come down to a few things.
1) Development. Reading around here it seems cyanogen himself has bought this phone and will be working on it. I have a history of Samsung phones and development has always been very active on them. It's too early for me to guess which will have more ROM availability and system stability . which brings me to the next point.
2) The battery. I always am running some flavor of AOSP and love AOKP, but in all my phones I have had system freezes that require me to pull the battery to get out of it. Not to mention misclicks into download mode which required a battery pull to get out of it. Does the One have a way to force the phone to shut off in the event of a total freeze?
3) The screen. Everyone seems to be raving over the super amoled vs superlcd. The annoying terms don't tell me anything and never have I complained about the color detail of the screen. What I care about is if the screen can get dark enough so I can use it in a dark room without blinding myself and in sunlight and see the screen.
4) the SD card I will adjust to. Its 32 GB and I've never needed more than that anyway. I'd complain about this if it were only 16GB.
Besides that I've read enough to know both are awesome phones but its a tough decision.
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I faced this decision today at Costco. Wait for the 4 or get the one. Low and behold I walked out of Costco with the one in hand for 185 on a upgrade. I've had every Samsung s1 s2 skyro s3 even had the infuse. Time for a change I think. So far so good
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hampsterblade said:
I know there are probably a lot of these threads all ready l, but this is this is a tough decision for me. I've had a hard time finding a comparison of the two devices that goes beyond the gimmicky Samsung features and the screen. My decision really has come down to a few things.
1) Development. Reading around here it seems cyanogen himself has bought this phone and will be working on it. I have a history of Samsung phones and development has always been very active on them. It's too early for me to guess which will have more ROM availability and system stability . which brings me to the next point.
2) The battery. I always am running some flavor of AOSP and love AOKP, but in all my phones I have had system freezes that require me to pull the battery to get out of it. Not to mention misclicks into download mode which required a battery pull to get out of it. Does the One have a way to force the phone to shut off in the event of a total freeze?
3) The screen. Everyone seems to be raving over the super amoled vs superlcd. The annoying terms don't tell me anything and never have I complained about the color detail of the screen. What I care about is if the screen can get dark enough so I can use it in a dark room without blinding myself and in sunlight and see the screen.
4) the SD card I will adjust to. Its 32 GB and I've never needed more than that anyway. I'd complain about this if it were only 16GB.
Besides that I've read enough to know both are awesome phones but its a tough decision.
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1. I'd say development is fair game for both phones. The One looks like it's going to receive quite a bit of support, while the S4 looks like it's going to sell well no matter what due to Samsung's marketing. I'd say that both phones are going to receive quite a bit of development. I'd say it's only a matter of whether you prefer Sense or TouchWiz, in case you need the option of using a stock-based rom every now and then.
2. The battery in the S4 is supposedly just slightly better, according to some reviews I've read. The One battery is not removable, but you can force a "battery pull"-like action with the phone by holding down volume up, volume down, and power at the same time for several seconds. It worked for me when I tried to use Aroma installer and it froze.
3. I'm not really sure what to tell you on this. I'd say it's a matter of preference. On one hand, the One's screen does look better, but on the other hand, it's definitely a bright screen. Not to mention if you wanted to use a smart cover-like accessory, only the S4 would work with that given the super amoled technology.
4. If you're a real junkie, the S4 probably has you covered with expandable storage. But if 32 is really enough, you can go for either phone, really. AT&T also offers the 64GB flavor in case you want to never worry about your storage.
Hope this helped.
I would take the HTC One over the S4 just cuz the premium design seems more durable and nicer looking. Plus most of the S4 apps seem a bit gimmicky to me while the HTC One seems to have less of that, though the new Sense system is still bloatware.I would root the device and go AOSP anyways.
What did it for me was the screen. The HTC One's screen out shines the S4 all the way. But every user is different you might prefer a removable battery. The simple fact that the HTC One from AT&T is the same as the international opens a wide source of ROMs and will attract more developers. Also the fact that it would appear they are not locking the bootloader. As of now they just confirmed that the S4 is locked and it took them over a month to unlock the bootloader on the S3.
I think from a development stand point the HTC One is a great addition. Something to keep in mind, you said you like the pure android feel (AOKP, AOSP, CM10.1). In the past those roms could not use the image chip in the HTC One X, there may be a chance if you get this phone and run it on AOKP you will only have a 4 MP shooter, which may be a deal breaker for you. Or they may unlock the full power of that camera and it be even better.
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Thank you for all your answers. Definitely reinforces that both phones are great. I think I'll give it a few weeks so I can see how far development has come along then.
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Thank you for all your answers. Definitely reinforces that both phones are great. I think I'll give it a few weeks so I can see how far development has come along then.
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Keep in mind, not only does Cyanogen himself have an HTC One, but so do a couple of other major CM devs from other phones - h8rift from the One XL (who did amazing things), and sk8erwitskil from the LG Optimus G.
Hell, there's already an early alpha for CM10.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248116
Development is going to be awesome for the One. I'm sure it'll be great for the S4 too, of course, but I wouldn't worry about the One.
My view of the phones is basiclly the phone is just a shell, we decide what roms to put on it. 2gb of rams on both same with a quad core processor. Those where the driving forces behind me choosing, I wanted a solid build quality that wasn't plastic. CM10.1 is coming to both
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Keep in mind, not only does Cyanogen himself have an HTC One, but so do a couple of other major CM devs from other phones - h8rift from the One XL (who did amazing things), and sk8erwitskil from the LG Optimus G.
Hell, there's already an early alpha for CM10.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248116
Development is going to be awesome for the One. I'm sure it'll be great for the S4 too, of course, but I wouldn't worry about the One.
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Also designgears and graffixnyc have the One. Maybe not CM devs, but great devs. Sk8erwitskil did great things with the recovery for the sgs2 skyrocket.
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I'm so torn. The screen for the S4 looks so much bigger and nicer but the locked bootloader and bloat on it sucks.
hampsterblade said:
I know there are probably a lot of these threads all ready l, but this is this is a tough decision for me. I've had a hard time finding a comparison of the two devices that goes beyond the gimmicky Samsung features and the screen. My decision really has come down to a few things.
1) Development. Reading around here it seems cyanogen himself has bought this phone and will be working on it. I have a history of Samsung phones and development has always been very active on them. It's too early for me to guess which will have more ROM availability and system stability . which brings me to the next point.
2) The battery. I always am running some flavor of AOSP and love AOKP, but in all my phones I have had system freezes that require me to pull the battery to get out of it. Not to mention misclicks into download mode which required a battery pull to get out of it. Does the One have a way to force the phone to shut off in the event of a total freeze?
3) The screen. Everyone seems to be raving over the super amoled vs superlcd. The annoying terms don't tell me anything and never have I complained about the color detail of the screen. What I care about is if the screen can get dark enough so I can use it in a dark room without blinding myself and in sunlight and see the screen.
4) the SD card I will adjust to. Its 32 GB and I've never needed more than that anyway. I'd complain about this if it were only 16GB.
Besides that I've read enough to know both are awesome phones but its a tough decision.
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Decision ain't tough simply because you can't go wrong picking either of them
I currently have the One but it will be going back on Saturday to be exchanged for the S4. Although I like the aluminum feel and overall design of the phone some minor issues are making me jump ship... The phone gets somewhat hot after playing games like Nova 3 and modern combat 4 for a few minutes, battery life is just so so, and my phone has a small gap on the top between corner and power button (nothing huge but enough to bother me).
I like the microSD card slot (I have a new SD card it will be a waste not to use it) and on the s4 and although it's make of plastic and not aluminum like the One once they both are in a case I will forget about that issue.
It's definitely a tough decision and I hope I don't regret it later, but I also know that if I don't trade this phone in within the first 14 days I will always wondered if i missed out by not going for the s4. Anyways my thoughts
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I'm so torn. The screen for the S4 looks so much bigger and nicer but the locked bootloader and bloat on it sucks.
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Personally, the screen is only a part of the equation, the one is a much better looking device with superior build quality. My wife has a g3, and honestly the build quality isn't comparable.Both will be in the same ballpark performance wise, and the s4 has removable battery and as card support,I have the 64gb version, I'm not worried about storage, I do have doubts about plastic phones, and the appearance of the galaxy series of phones don't appeal to me
I love htc's build and its speakers, but unfortunately it wasn't for me. i am returning my htc one for s4, because my phone heats up a lot and my it doesn't connect to my car via usb or the aux cable(nexus 4, iphone and xperia z work fine with it).
The three dot menu is driving me madddddddddd
eav1026 said:
I currently have the One but it will be going back on Saturday to be exchanged for the S4. Although I like the aluminum feel and overall design of the phone some minor issues are making me jump ship... The phone gets somewhat hot after playing games like Nova 3 and modern combat 4 for a few minutes, battery life is just so so, and my phone has a small gap on the top between corner and power button (nothing huge but enough to bother me).
I like the microSD card slot (I have a new SD card it will be a waste not to use it) and on the s4 and although it's make of plastic and not aluminum like the One once they both are in a case I will forget about that issue.
It's definitely a tough decision and I hope I don't regret it later, but I also know that if I don't trade this phone in within the first 14 days I will always wondered if i missed out by not going for the s4. Anyways my thoughts
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Unfortunately, you're going to regret it and will most likely be back before you know it.
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The three dot menu is driving me madddddddddd
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Horrible solution to w problem of htcs creation.
No one mentions the vibration on phones. Htc uses a pretty nasty vibrator motor
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To all who are complaining about heat..
You do realize the heat is generated mainly from the processor and that the S4 has the exact same one right?
The S4 will have the same amount of heat..
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I'm so torn. The screen for the S4 looks so much bigger and nicer but the locked bootloader and bloat on it sucks.
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The screen does not look bigger to me and in reality it's only .3" bigger.. It don't think the S4 screen looks nicer. It's cartoon'ish and standard Samsung over saturation..
For those of you who are thinking about going S4... check out this thread and remember, locked bootloader!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249581
I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Then there is S3, which looks like a better phone alltogether, even if more expensive (~350 euro).
But the doubts about that one after reading user opinions are:
- quite dark screen, worse than One X
- bad build quality
- flimsy home button
- external speaker on pair with Desire
I would welcome SGS3 owners views on the above.
My general requirements (compared to HTC Desire):
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- have a good and loud external speakers for listening to podcasts
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout
the s3 fits each one of those requirements.....
Hi there. I was an owner of HTC Desire for 2 years. I loved that device and still have it in my drawer. I recently bought a Galaxy S3 to upadgrade my old DS. The transfer from Desire to Desire S was something logical to me back then. Almost the same device but newer software. I was searching for a new phone and I thought that one X was the only road for me. I had a chance to compare one X with SGS3 side by side. The screen on one X has more natural colors for me and I think the sound quality is better. Honesty I picked the SGS 3 cause of the community that has here in xda the removal battery the sd card slot and I think the camera quality is better. Im still new here and haven't managed to explore the hole forum but I found a lot of things and I'm amazed by the community
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There are better options market than s3 at this point of time
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There are better options market than s3 at this point of time
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Thanks for this informative post. Could you share those better options?
I am not going to pay more than 350 euro for it, so unless those better options are the same price or cheaper than SGS3, mentioning them is pointless.
impactor said:
Thanks for this informative post. Could you share those better options?
I am not going to pay more than 350 euro for it, so unless those better options are the same price or cheaper than SGS3, mentioning them is pointless.
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Get the S4 i9505. Better dev support due to no exynos. Get 2nd hand
Got to be honest, if i was in your shoes, i wouldn't. Not for 350€. Would be a different thing if you had an awesome deal at hand, but if you're just getting them from a regular store, for the full price, no.
I've seen you don't require neither external sd nor an removable battery so i'd easily go with a nexus 4 if i could. Around same price point, best bang for the buck specs wise. Also, you get updates directly from google instead of waiting forever for samsung
If you're not into the nexus 4 (which isn't easy to come by for every country) you may want to take a look at the oppo find 5. Seems a fantastic phone, has even better specs than the nexus and therefore a bit more expensive. Easy to get in europe and they even throw in a few extras like NFC tags and a (flip?) cover for your phone. Also the developer openly encourages custom roms so there shouldn't be a problem having updates.
Moar ram (this is REALLY important on the S3 since 1Gb is not nearly enough for a samsung rom), no-bul**** touchwiz with a lightfast pure aosp rom (with the nexus) or anything close with the oppo and no exynos with closed sources, making custom roms not being able to be all they can. You won't get some somewhat useless bells and whistles (smart stay, camera effects, multiwindow, etc) but that can almost all be reinstated with 3rd party apps if needed. Samsung has a bad history of kind of neglecting their phones who're not flagships anymore - by this i mean they say they will update but only when convenient to them and that means waiting forever with no ETA at all. Not to mention you may get a unit with the screwed up chip which is apparently not in danger of suddently dying anymore but it's fix has been reported causing severe lag. It's not a bad phone at all, it's just there are better alternatives out there.
The S2 though is still a fantastic phone and it's probably the cheaper you'll get. It's just it's old and most likely not supported (or about to be, not sure) by samsung by now.
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i'd easily go with a nexus 4 if i could. Around same price point, best bang for the buck specs wise.
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This is a really good point.
I think the price points are still a little high
You should expect after September 5 or so, and then check prices for:
- i9300 unlocked new and second-hand; IMHO the best thing about it is the form factor + huge availability of ROMs; major downside = only 1 GB RAM
- i9305 unlocked new and second-hand; it fixes the problem with just 1 GB and also has LTE, but much less development and fewer ROMs to choose
- N7100 (note 2) unlocked new and second-hand; IMHO a good choice that fixes most problems with i9300 and i9305, BUT creates a new one - size; that one is a deal killer for me
- also look at the prices for note 3 (will be launchd around September 4-5) and i9505 (might drop a little, eventually the i9506 might become available).
Thanks guys.
- I never used stock rom on any android phone I had. I root and install custom rom instantly, so I am no bothered by Sense or Touchwiz or whatever bloat there is in stock.
- Nexus 4 has one major flaw - only 16gb, and not expandable. In my Deisre, I have a 16gb card and btween GPS maps, podcasts and backups, I am almost constantly out of space. Plus, it has lesser camera, and screen.
- SGS3 would be in silicon cover anyway, so I don't care much about the build quality EXCEPT for the front panel/home button.
impactor said:
Thanks guys.
- I never used stock rom on any android phone I had. I root and install custom rom instantly, so I am no bothered by Sense or Touchwiz or whatever bloat there is in stock.
- Nexus 4 has one major flaw - only 16gb, and not expandable. In my Deisre, I have a 16gb card and btween GPS maps, podcasts and backups, I am almost constantly out of space. Plus, it has lesser camera, and screen.
- SGS3 would be in silicon cover anyway, so I don't care much about the build quality EXCEPT for the front panel/home button.
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SGS3's problem is that AOSP devs cannot make ROMs as quickly (or make the "fully functional" as quickly) due to having an Exynos CPU. I personally would look for an S4 i9505 2nd hand if I wanted a good phone with AOSP support. It has no Exynos.
S4 is way to expensive for me.
How about HTC One X?
impactor said:
Thanks for this informative post. Could you share those better options?
I am not going to pay more than 350 euro for it, so unless those better options are the same price or cheaper than SGS3, mentioning them is pointless.
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What would be pointless is buying a exynos device paying 350 euro.. N4 / oppo find 5 great devices / or second hand i9505 / one x
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impactor said:
S4 is way to expensive for me.
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In the UK I found a 2nd hand i9505 for £330, 384 Euros on buy it now (ebay).
Wait a month or two, it will be lower. Worth considering. Or look for an auction instead. I'm confident it can be done.
Oh you didn't mention the need for more than 16gb. That actually weights in a lot. The oppo finder 5 should be a good candidate then, I believe it's the best price you can get for a phone with those specs that already brings 32gb (if bought new)
If you understand and don't mind the exynos, the 16gb+sdcard lte s3 is also an option (2gb ram), not sure about prices though.
Also, for what's worth, I've compared the camera of my s3 with the n4. Didn't think it was all that different apart from effects I don't really use. Phones are cool for the casual shot (and actually take very decent ones) but if it's serious quality I'm after, nothing beats a good, dedicated camera.
Edit: oops didn't realise you couldn't spend more than 350. I still wouldn't get the s3 and would wait out for the prices to get lower. Still, if you must change your phone now, for that price point, with your requirements is probably the best bet.
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rootSU said:
In the UK I found a 2nd hand i9505 for £330, 384 Euros on buy it now (ebay).
Wait a month or two, it will be lower. Worth considering. Or look for an auction instead. I'm confident it can be done.
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Main issue I find with ebay uk sellers, they won't send to any other country, even if its their neighbor Portugal few miles below
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Main issue I find with ebay uk sellers, they won't send to any other country, even if its their neighbor Portugal few miles below
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I wasnt suggesting buying from Ebay UK. It's just an example.
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SGS3's problem is that AOSP devs cannot make ROMs as quickly (or make the "fully functional" as quickly) due to having an Exynos CPU. I personally would look for an S4 i9505 2nd hand if I wanted a good phone with AOSP support. It has no Exynos.
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I am not sure what is the problem with S3 cpu. S3 seems to have great support community, a lot of roms, etc. I do not really care if I have the newest subversion of Android available on my phone 5 days after the newest Android was released.
I just want it to work, and I couldn't care less if I have to wait a month, or 3 months for Android 4.3, if I have fully workin 4.2.2, with great battery life, photograps, excellent GPS, screen, and pretty great for a mobile audio quality (headphones, and speakerphone).
Considering that, would you still disadvice me an S3? I looked at prices of S4 and even 380 euro is a bit of a stretch, considering I wanted to spend 200 euro initially, and 300 for S3 is already a significant budget enlargement.
And what about HTC One X? Would that be better than S3?
Exynos documentation lacking. No sources. Poor camera. All devs complain including cyanogen. Read their threads, posts and blogs. Research. Or buy blindly. You choose
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Exynos documentation lacking. No sources. Poor camera. All devs complain including cyanogen. Read their threads, posts and blogs. Research. Or buy blindly. You choose
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Here are results of my research:
1. Stable CM10.2 available on S3
2. S3 camera is one of the best among mobile phones
3. Considerable amount of roms available for S3.
I just don't see the point you are making. I do not want to get S3 blindly, but neither do I want to blindly reject it.
impactor said:
Here are results of my research:
1. Stable CM10.2 available on S3
2. S3 camera is one of the best among mobile phones
3. Considerable amount of roms available for S3.
I just don't see the point you are making. I do not want to get S3 blindly, but neither do I want to blindly reject it.
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1. Cyanogen refused to release 10.1 as "stable" release. Remains nightly build forever due to lack of exynos sources and documentation. Same with 10.2
2. Touchwiz rom camera great. Since samsung didn't release camera HAL, aosp camera not very good.
3. Loads of aosp roms. None meet their own potential due to the issues mentioned above.
4. Battery life poor on aosp roms.
S3 is great of you're happy with touchwiz. Bloated and slow but good pics and great battery life. But if you know you'll be using aosp roms, its a poor choice - and im sure any aosp dev would agree with that. Yes there's lots of choice. I even use aosp all the time but it cannot exploit the devices potential.
Also a lot of devs are starting to move on now. Kernel development for aosp is down to about 3 or 4 good ones.
Im trying to be Frank and save you buying a dying devices thinking it will be as good as you think it is. I wish I had known about the exynos issue before buying. Would I have held out and bought something else? Probably not. It was the only device that met my requirement 14 months ago. That said, would I recommend it now? No.
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