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so this is my problem. Im having some issues with my phone and I want it to be changed. The issues really dont matter. In order for my provider to send me another phone they want me to do a master reset. This of course will delete all my apps and settings. As far as I know there is not a backup app that once you restore the phone and apps the restored phone will have all it's app data in place, the icons will be where you want them, etc, just like you would from when you clone or make an image from a Hard Drive from pc... Or is there and application that will do this? My only other option (i believe) is to root the phone to then use an app to do a real backup, then unroot the phone, root the new phone and do the restore. I also have to remove the root from the old phone but can that be done without increasing the counter? This is all a big hassle. I cant believe you can do a real backup/restore on a phone nowadays....
If there is any other way to do it I will appreciate the help. I will have to do this in the next days since my warranty expires in a bit over a month...
Thanks!
You are correct ....
Rooting of the device is needed, then the unroot.
It's the only method I'm aware of in getting a full nandroid backup ..g
Sarge has it right if you want to use backup apps.
If you don't want to root, you will need to flash TWRP or CWR to get the custom recovery and backup. Then make a backup to your external SD card. Use recovery to factory reset. Send the phone away after removing SD card and sim card. The backup is called a nandroid and it is basically an image of the phone.
On new phone flash same recovery then restore the backup. When you start the phone it will be as the broken one was.
You can remove the recovery from the broken phone, but I never heard of anyone getting problems from the warranty people for that.
Thanks both of you guys for the information. I am getting ready to do the root not only for the backup but there are quite a few apps that I want to use that require root that I am going to have to do it.
Now, I started reading tonight and the more I read the more I get confused. Is there an official guide to root the note (specifically AT&T running ICS 4.0.4 if there is a difference) in a way that I can unroot it in the future avoiding tripping any counters?
I have read so many different threads about rooting, they tend to be different so I am looking for the "current" accepted "method" to do this with decent steps if possible. Thanks much!
Whoa whoa, are we forgetting about ADB Backup?
What do you mean CPA?
BTW, I want to root the stock att ics, I am not interested into flashing another rom.
Fernandq said:
What do you mean CPA?
BTW, I want to root the stock att ics, I am not interested into flashing another rom.
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Yeah I understand, you're wanting to do a full backup of your phone before you turn it in right? Or, at the very least, your apps and settings?
Welp, here you go: no root required.
A quick google search for "ADB backup" should get you the info you need as well.
Also looks like there's an XDA dev who came up with a much easier interface (as opposed to doing everything via command-line, which still isn't that difficult). Might be worth checking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36499906
Edit: Read your second post, and it looks like you're interested in rooting...I guess I was confused as to your intentions after reading you first post, which just sounded like you didn't want to lose your info after doing a factory reset. Regardless, it is HIGHLY advised before doing any sort of root-related activity to do an ADB backup. That way, if anything goes wrong in the rooting process itself, or if you later decide you want to go back to stock and/or all of your original apps and settings from before the root, you can literally be back with a clean slate within a matter of minutes.
Thanks very much for the link. I have swapped phones already but it will be helpful before I root. THANKS!
after looking at adb I see it would not work for my initial needs as it only can be restored to the same device. I wanted something I could do a backup in the old one and restore that backup in the new one. Anyway, since I am past that anyway I am going to give it a try in theold device.... thanks!
Fernandq said:
after looking at adb I see it would not work for my initial needs as it only can be restored to the same device. I wanted something I could do a backup in the old one and restore that backup in the new one. Anyway, since I am past that anyway I am going to give it a try in theold device.... thanks!
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The full backup, yes (regarding being able to only restore to the same device) but you could literally extract whatever data you want from the ADB backup using WinRar, then manually push it to your new device.
Apparently ADB backup is broke, it does not respect the -noshared flag and the resulting file is corrupted requiring more processing on the file for it to work... dang it! Seems it has been fixed in JB...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28303
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...stem-backup-ics-only-root-not-required-2.html
and there is more if you search the net.... Now, why will they not fix it is beyond me. Ok, so the command does not respect -noshared, that is easy to fix, I can just pull my sd card out but making an otherwise broken and unusable file giving the user the false sense of security and not fixing the bug is plain wrong... The only option will be to upgrade to JB but the official upgrade is not out and knowing at&t I wont be for a bit... I am not much into flashing leaked rom although that might change in the near future...
Thanks.
Fernandq said:
Apparently ADB backup is broke, it does not respect the -noshared flag and the resulting file is corrupted requiring more processing on the file for it to work... dang it! Seems it has been fixed in JB...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28303
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...stem-backup-ics-only-root-not-required-2.html
and there is more if you search the net.... Now, why will they not fix it is beyond me. Ok, so the command does not respect -noshared, that is easy to fix, I can just pull my sd card out but making an otherwise broken and unusable file giving the user the false sense of security and not fixing the bug is plain wrong... The only option will be to upgrade to JB but the official upgrade is not out and knowing at&t I wont be for a bit... I am not much into flashing leaked rom although that might change in the near future...
Thanks.
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Well crap man, that sucks - sorry! I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the link you posted as I'm pulling all nighters about 3 times a week during for the busy season of my profession (see my user name lol)...but you're saying that something actually went WRONG with the SDK on ICS firmware - and Google isn't fixing it?? That can't be right...right?
I can personally couch for this method, as I used it to make a full unrooted backup - of stock 4.0.4 ICS - back in October when I rooted my Note for the first time. And the first thing I did (per the rooting tutorial I was following) was verify the backup by doing a restore via ADB before I rooted - and everything worked fine. Like I said, sorry it's not working for you! Have you considered rooting, installing a custom recovery, doing a nandroid backup (and saving it someplace safe of course), then doing a full unroot back to stock + reset your flash counter? There are some great tutorials to walk you through all of that on the Galaxy Note Everything Thread in the General forum, in case that's an option.
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Well crap man, that sucks - sorry! I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the link you posted as I'm pulling all nighters about 3 times a week during for the busy season of my profession (see my user name lol)...but you're saying that something actually went WRONG with the SDK on ICS firmware - and Google isn't fixing it?? That can't be right...right?
I can personally couch for this method, as I used it to make a full unrooted backup - of stock 4.0.4 ICS - back in October when I rooted my Note for the first time. And the first thing I did (per the rooting tutorial I was following) was verify the backup by doing a restore via ADB before I rooted - and everything worked fine. Like I said, sorry it's not working for you! Have you considered rooting, installing a custom recovery, doing a nandroid backup (and saving it someplace safe of course), then doing a full unroot back to stock + reset your flash counter? There are some great tutorials to walk you through all of that on the Galaxy Note Everything Thread in the General forum, in case that's an option.
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As mentioned in my post....
Root, full backup, and unroot is the fastest method......g
gregsarg said:
As mentioned in my post....
Root, full backup, and unroot is the fastest method......g
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But what's the point in putting things simply like that when I can write an entire paragraph saying the same thing, but more confusing??
Ok. I have at&t Samsung galaxy note i717. Earlier today I manually updated the software to jelly bean 4.1 and also unlocked it by following a YouTube video. Now. I have downloaded a few things, such as SU, CWM, titanium backup, twrp, and I think that's it. I barely know what any of these things do. I have already deleted all bloatware from my phone. I went to TWRP and I backed up my current settings to my sd card. I guess that's out of the way.
I am asking if anyone can please explain in detail and retard terms, what precautions should I take before I figure out how to flash new roms and kernels, and if i backed up my phone correctly so if I screw up, I can restore my phone.
I need someone to explain to me what process I should take in order to keep my phone safe and secure, how to get a rom for saving battery... Do you need to connect to a computer to do this? Someone please explain to me how to use all of these apps and roms safely! Thank you
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Ok. I have at&t Samsung galaxy note i717. Earlier today I manually updated the software to jelly bean 4.1 and also unlocked it by following a YouTube video. Now. I have downloaded a few things, such as SU, CWM, titanium backup, twrp, and I think that's it. I barely know what any of these things do. I have already deleted all bloatware from my phone. I went to TWRP and I backed up my current settings to my sd card. I guess that's out of the way.
I am asking if anyone can please explain in detail and retard terms, what precautions should I take before I figure out how to flash new roms and kernels, and if i backed up my phone correctly so if I screw up, I can restore my phone.
I need someone to explain to me what process I should take in order to keep my phone safe and secure, how to get a rom for saving battery... Do you need to connect to a computer to do this? Someone please explain to me how to use all of these apps and roms safely! Thank you
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Check Development area for roms. Read about them and figure which is best for you, And as far as flashing Roms TWRP is the best way to go
Dblx327 said:
Ok. I have at&t Samsung galaxy note i717. Earlier today I manually updated the software to jelly bean 4.1 and also unlocked it by following a YouTube video. Now. I have downloaded a few things, such as SU, CWM, titanium backup, twrp, and I think that's it. I barely know what any of these things do. I have already deleted all bloatware from my phone. I went to TWRP and I backed up my current settings to my sd card. I guess that's out of the way.
I am asking if anyone can please explain in detail and retard terms, what precautions should I take before I figure out how to flash new roms and kernels, and if i backed up my phone correctly so if I screw up, I can restore my phone.
I need someone to explain to me what process I should take in order to keep my phone safe and secure, how to get a rom for saving battery... Do you need to connect to a computer to do this? Someone please explain to me how to use all of these apps and roms safely! Thank you
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My opinion. Dont mess with it. If its battery life you're looking for go to amazon and buy an extended battery.
Flashing roms and kernels without having some sort of idea what you're doing could completely brick(ruin) your phone.
dweeezy said:
My opinion. Dont mess with it. If its battery life you're looking for go to amazon and buy an extended battery.
Flashing roms and kernels without having some sort of idea what you're doing could completely brick(ruin) your phone.
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Well, I already rooted my phone. It was pretty easy because I followed the steps correctly. And i don't want to buy a bulky battery, I also want to learn how to customize my phone.
I want to continue to research and learn about it so I don't hard brick my phone. I was hoping someone could at least explain the apps that I have downloaded. What each do. How to back up my phone settings to my sd card. Do I need each app that I downloaded, and when do I need to connect to a computer? When I go online and find a new rom and flash it over with Odin? I just want to know step by step process so I can learn this safely. Thanks
1 - Read the pinned threads at the top of the General section and the Q&A section.
2- Use Google.
Dblx327 said:
Ok. I have at&t Samsung galaxy note i717. Earlier today I manually updated the software to jelly bean 4.1 and also unlocked it by following a YouTube video. Now. I have downloaded a few things, such as SU, CWM, titanium backup, twrp, and I think that's it. I barely know what any of these things do. I have already deleted all bloatware from my phone. I went to TWRP and I backed up my current settings to my sd card. I guess that's out of the way.
I am asking if anyone can please explain in detail and retard terms, what precautions should I take before I figure out how to flash new roms and kernels, and if i backed up my phone correctly so if I screw up, I can restore my phone.
I need someone to explain to me what process I should take in order to keep my phone safe and secure, how to get a rom for saving battery... Do you need to connect to a computer to do this? Someone please explain to me how to use all of these apps and roms safely! Thank you
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SU is superuser. its for rooted andriods. basically when you try to go into an app that requires root superuser is what will grant that app permission to do what it wants to do.
a rooted android must have su or it wont have root access.
cwm,titanium backup, twrp- The only one of these i use is cwm. clockwork mod is simple. a stock phone has its own recovery. power on while holding up/down vol's and it boots into recovery. cwm is a modded recovery that allows you to do more. you open it the same way as the stock one but from there you can backup your entire phone, -roms and all. the way to put it on your phone is to download the appropraite one for your android version and also download odin. when odins open click pda, find the file, start phone in download mode (vol down and pwr) and click start. now there are a ton of tutorials but thats the gist of it. now after its back up you can try to flash roms, kernels, etc. most of them will be flashed via odin some you will drag onto your sd card and flash them via cwm(the install zip from sd card option).
When it comes to flashing stuff on your phone nothing is 100% safe and a backup isnt always going to fix a problem you may cause. dont flash anything you havent done research on. read the entire forum to see what problems people had and how they fixed them.
Most downloads youll find have step by step instructions, follow them.
Good luck
This is the first time for me with an HTC device. So I need a little help.
I am trying to find a way for rooting the phone without loosing any data or configuration. Can somebody help me?
My phone is HTC One X+ running Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5.
In case I need to take claim the warranty of the phone what I would have to do? Is there something I should do before rooting the device, so that I will be able to unroot it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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This is the first time for me with an HTC device. So I need a little help.
I am trying to find a way for rooting the phone without loosing any data or configuration. Can somebody help me?
My phone is HTC One X+ running Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5.
In case I need to take claim the warranty of the phone what I would have to do? Is there something I should do before rooting the device, so that I will be able to unroot it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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I don't know all the answers to your questions but let me help you make something clear.
Unlocking the bootloader is different from "rooting"
Your warranty is voided when you unlock the bootloader, which is an important step to actually "root". Your bootloader is what you see when you reboot and hold volume down. The step of unlocking the bootloader is the step that cause you to lose your data. So I recommend you to connect your phone and copy all the valuable information and files on it to your PC, then once this step is done you can copy it back.
Rooting: Becoming the administrator of your phone (like sudo in linux) , Becoming a SUPERUSER , meaning you can change system files and so forth and so on (Thats the general explanation however since we all have S-ON so its called temporary root but lets not get ourselves to that yet)
How can you gain root access?
1-Unlock the bootloader
2-Install a custom recovery
3-flash "superuser.zip"(which will be included in almost all the guides that you will follow to root your phone)
Once you have root access you will be able to play with your phone settings , but be careful not to break the settings.
Now concerning your final question , how to "unroot"?
Before you flash "superuser.zip (which will be the real "rooting" of your phone) , you will go to your "custom recovery" (most popular onces are TWRP and CWM) and go to an option called "Backup" and you do a backup called "nandroid backup" , which copies your phone AS IT IS , which then you can copy it to your PC. You will be able to restore it using the recovery you had installed as it is. Which technically will "unroot" your phone.
Question you might ask: That is so cool, but can't I do it before unlocking the bootloader and losing all my data? from my EXPERIENCE and what I searched , No.
Then how will I benefit? Since having root access to your phone might put your phone in danger of breaking something , or installing a bad ROM (read about this topic before rooting. Here is a summary: "HTC Sense" is a ROM. "Samsung TouchWIZ" is a ROM, "Stock Android" is a ROM) you will have a full safe backup that you will be able to restore so you can have your phone running again.
Also note the following: Once you have a custom recovery you will be able to install custom roms , when you install custom roms your APPs are deleted BUT the data IN your SDcard directory will not be harmed (Music, pics..etc)
So how can I recover my applications? By installing "titanium backup" you will be able to backup all your applications apk and data, saved to your internal storage, so when you switch roms , you need to redownload the app and then restore your data, and you will have all your data back.
So why can't I use that before I unlock the bootloader? Because Titanium backup ITSELF requires root access to access your apps apks and do full backups.
Also a note, when flashing your FIRST ROM, you will sweat like a pig when you get stuck on "Boot screen" , its called a "BOOT LOOP" , do not fear. Since HTC has all the bootloaders S-ON (till now) you will need when you switch ROMS to flash the boot.img to your phone. HOW?
Google "Fastboot flash boot boot.img HTC" and you will see tons of guides. It should also be noted in every single custom ROM guide that you will need to follow that STEP.
ALSO!!! Do NOT FORGET TO MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE ROOTING AND BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO FLASH A CUSTOM ROM!! AND DONT INSTALL A CUSTOM ROM FOR "AT&T" AND YOUR PHONE IS INTERNATIONAL AND VICE VERSA.
I rooted my phone and I wish I had someone to tell me that in a single post , so I spent around 10 minutes writing this guide , which I hope people will find useful.
Best of luck mate
Also note that this is the wrong section, since its a question it should go to "Q&A section".
Ghand0ur said:
I don't know all the answers to your questions but let me help you make something clear.
Unlocking the bootloader is different from "rooting"
Your warranty is voided when you unlock the bootloader, which is an important step to actually "root". Your bootloader is what you see when you reboot and hold volume down. The step of unlocking the bootloader is the step that cause you to lose your data. So I recommend you to connect your phone and copy all the valuable information and files on it to your PC, then once this step is done you can copy it back.
Rooting: Becoming the administrator of your phone (like sudo in linux) , Becoming a SUPERUSER , meaning you can change system files and so forth and so on (Thats the general explanation however since we all have S-ON so its called temporary root but lets not get ourselves to that yet)
How can you gain root access?
1-Unlock the bootloader
2-Install a custom recovery
3-flash "superuser.zip"(which will be included in almost all the guides that you will follow to root your phone)
Once you have root access you will be able to play with your phone settings , but be careful not to break the settings.
Now concerning your final question , how to "unroot"?
Before you flash "superuser.zip (which will be the real "rooting" of your phone) , you will go to your "custom recovery" (most popular onces are TWRP and CWM) and go to an option called "Backup" and you do a backup called "nandroid backup" , which copies your phone AS IT IS , which then you can copy it to your PC. You will be able to restore it using the recovery you had installed as it is. Which technically will "unroot" your phone.
Question you might ask: That is so cool, but can't I do it before unlocking the bootloader and losing all my data? from my EXPERIENCE and what I searched , No.
Then how will I benefit? Since having root access to your phone might put your phone in danger of breaking something , or installing a bad ROM (read about this topic before rooting. Here is a summary: "HTC Sense" is a ROM. "Samsung TouchWIZ" is a ROM, "Stock Android" is a ROM) you will have a full safe backup that you will be able to restore so you can have your phone running again.
Also note the following: Once you have a custom recovery you will be able to install custom roms , when you install custom roms your APPs are deleted BUT the data IN your SDcard directory will not be harmed (Music, pics..etc)
So how can I recover my applications? By installing "titanium backup" you will be able to backup all your applications apk and data, saved to your internal storage, so when you switch roms , you need to redownload the app and then restore your data, and you will have all your data back.
So why can't I use that before I unlock the bootloader? Because Titanium backup ITSELF requires root access to access your apps apks and do full backups.
Also a note, when flashing your FIRST ROM, you will sweat like a pig when you get stuck on "Boot screen" , its called a "BOOT LOOP" , do not fear. Since HTC has all the bootloaders S-ON (till now) you will need when you switch ROMS to flash the boot.img to your phone. HOW?
Google "Fastboot flash boot boot.img HTC" and you will see tons of guides. It should also be noted in every single custom ROM guide that you will need to follow that STEP.
ALSO!!! Do NOT FORGET TO MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE ROOTING AND BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO FLASH A CUSTOM ROM!! AND DONT INSTALL A CUSTOM ROM FOR "AT&T" AND YOUR PHONE IS INTERNATIONAL AND VICE VERSA.
I rooted my phone and I wish I had someone to tell me that in a single post , so I spent around 10 minutes writing this guide , which I hope people will find useful.
Best of luck mate
Also note that this is the wrong section, since its a question it should go to "Q&A section".
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Thanks a lot for explaining all these stuffs to me. Really appreciate it. I knew a few of the things already from what you wrote, but I must say a lot of these are completely new info for me!
So tl;dr I can't root without unlocking the bootloader!
Thats so sad. I wanted to save all the games and stuffs' data so that I won't have to redownload all the games. (
obscurant1st said:
Thanks a lot for explaining all these stuffs to me. Really appreciate it. I knew a few of the things already from what you wrote, but I must say a lot of these are completely new info for me!
So tl;dr I can't root without unlocking the bootloader!
Thats so sad. I wanted to save all the games and stuffs' data so that I won't have to redownload all the games. (
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I know its sort of tiring but honestly the payoff is massive, atleast to me. I explored things I didn't know about my phone. I learned information about how the phone is made. These information help you.
Inaddition to having custom ROMs, rooting offers you the benefit of backing up your games which is not available on stock.
Anyway, Best of luck, android is a great world to explore.
I however must give credit to every single one that helped me on that topic, and that's my way of paying them back. To Help others like me who need help
obscurant1st said:
Thanks a lot for explaining all these stuffs to me. Really appreciate it. I knew a few of the things already from what you wrote, but I must say a lot of these are completely new info for me!
So tl;dr I can't root without unlocking the bootloader!
Thats so sad. I wanted to save all the games and stuffs' data so that I won't have to redownload all the games. (
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If you root now, you'll be able to use titanium backup and backup all the data you want! Then you can transfer these game and app datas across any android device in the future!
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JustinBieber said:
If you root now, you'll be able to use titanium backup and backup all the data you want! Then you can transfer these game and app datas across any android device in the future!
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DON'T STEEL MY INFORMATION DSAHGASHNJKGJSKBGJKS GJKBA I ALREADY SAID THAT IN THE LONG LONG LONG LONG POST DJGKBASKGJSAGAS
Just kidding, If you missed what I said about titanium backup, its true, once you are root you won't lose your game data and stuff any longer.
Have been lots way but there is no
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Hello there people!
As you all know every Android user finally goes for the thing called "Rooting" so yes I'm an beginner over it and read alot of discussions but still couldn't find Convincing discussion so I need complete procedure about the Stock ROM and how to back it up in order to Step backward towards it just in case if something strange happens. YES I'll flash a Custom ROM so i'll take the guide as well.
THANKYOU.
Hi there. One thing you will find out about quickly, is that many methods to modify your phone are very specific. Not only to what manufacturer, but what model, what update it is on, if it was purchased from a carrier or unbranded and unlocked, and whether or not there are any warranty issues to consider. Most of the time you can return the device to exactly as your received it and sometimes there is something that is triggered that can not be reset that will show you've modified the phone. So, let us know what you have and we can get you pointed in the right direction to get started.
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Hi there. One thing you will find out about quickly, is that many methods to modify your phone are very specific. Not only to what manufacturer, but what model, what update it is on, if it was purchased from a carrier or unbranded and unlocked, and whether or not there are any warranty issues to consider. Most of the time you can return the device to exactly as your received it and sometimes there is something that is triggered that can not be reset that will show you've modified the phone. So, let us know what you have and we can get you pointed in the right direction to get started.
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I have the "Quatro Z4" of the Qmobile company i.e Unbranded but that doesn't mean the unbranded stuff can't get rooted. Yeah I am seeking perfect rooting options and Recovery options with perfect Stock rom Backup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542825
This guide has everything you need to root and to use the ClockworkMod recovery which will allow you to make a full backup of your current system (these backups are called Nandroids)
I haven't had a chance to look around to see if there are any roms for it yet, but that guide should be a good head start. I would recommend reading through the thread first to make sure there won't be any surprises.
es0tericcha0s said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542825
This guide has everything you need to root and to use the ClockworkMod recovery which will allow you to make a full backup of your current system (these backups are called Nandroids)
I haven't had a chance to look around to see if there are any roms for it yet, but that guide should be a good head start. I would recommend reading through the thread first to make sure there won't be any surprises.
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Didn't get you mate? What exactly do I have to do?
I'm not sure what you are having trouble with...? The link I gave you breaks down the steps you need to get started pretty simply...
Hello, until now I avoided to root my device (SGP612 / Stock Marshmallow), because I did not want to risk to lose the drm-keys or do other damage.
Besides that, there some apps, which will not run on rooted devices as netflix (at least I suppose so).
Now working on Tasker and other tools the demand of root is increasing more and more. But still I want to take it restrained and looking for a way to limit the root via ADB. I'm not sure, if that is possible, but I think, that would be a good compromise. Online I found a huge amount of guides and threads "how to root", but all of them, at least it looks like that, ending with an unlocked bootloader, TPRP, SuperSU and so on. I did not read all of them, because that would take years and these guides may also be outdated or even worse incorrect.
Therefor I'm here to ask you about yours assessment.
My main goal would be to:
- Make a full backup
- Protect the DRM-Keys and other irreversible stuff
- No app should be able to detect that the device has been rooted respectively modified on system-level
- Void a reset of the current setup
- Install some apps to system via adb and grant some permissions, uninstall few oem-apps
- Tweak a few settings via adb
Is that possible? And if so, are there some good and simplified guides, which I should read?
Wrong forum. This is for Z3 Compact phone. What you want is https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-tablet-compact
You can root the phone without unlocking the bootloader, so I would assume that you can do the same with the tablet. You have to flash with an older ROM/kernel first, though, but it is doable.
temporary2010 said:
Wrong forum. This is for Z3 Compact phone. What you want is https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-tablet-compact
You can root the phone without unlocking the bootloader, so I would assume that you can do the same with the tablet. You have to flash with an older ROM/kernel first, though, but it is doable.
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I will ask the moderation to move my thread, thanks for the hint.
That sounds complicated to flash an older ROM, especially if no suitable instructions are known to me.
BTW. I prefer to stay at stock.
I am pretty sure you posted in the right forum. Everything you mention is possible, except making a full backup. I wouldn't know how without root or twrp. You can backup your TA partition with a special tool to save your drm keys. It uses the 'dirty cow' exploit so you may need to downgrade first (which wipes your data).
I think root via ADB requires a custom rom. You need to unlock your bootloader, which wipes all data. Alternatively, you can root your device with Magisk. It can hide itself from detection for a set of apps that you select.
M1chiel said:
I am pretty sure you posted in the right forum. Everything you mention is possible, except making a full backup. I wouldn't know how without root or twrp. You can backup your TA partition with a special tool to save your drm keys. It uses the 'dirty cow' exploit so you may need to downgrade first (which wipes your data).
I think root via ADB requires a custom rom. You need to unlock your bootloader, which wipes all data. Alternatively, you can root your device with Magisk. It can hide itself from detection for a set of apps that you select.
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The thread has been moved by now, so that should be ok.
But still, I do not want any custom-rom. My experience with such on other devices in the past was very frustrating and a waste of time. Had always stability issues on driver-level and other misbehavior. On one samsung device I tested around ten or more roms and all of them was quite ****ty...
And until now it sounds like, I need to install a custom before I even can start to make backups and such. But I want a backup of the status quo, to which I could always rollback, if things gets ugly.
I like the current stock, is a good and stable base, a few tweaks and it would be perfect for me. Of course, I did not test any customs on my current device to be able to make some substantiated conclusion on that but I'm to distrustful to follow this path, especially not when there is no way back.
I miss any imagination what is possible and what is not, or what effect a particular measure entails. Therefor I can't estimate the accuracy of any guide and there are hundreds of them out there, and it looks like the approach is sometimes different. I started reading some of them, but stopped it because I could not retrace the content.
Can you recommend a good guide, which could work out for me and whats the name of the tool to backup the drm-keys? Thanks...
Check here for the TA backup https://forum.xda-developers.com/cr...rsal-dirtycow-based-ta-backup-t3514236/page47
I am very happy with this rom, the developer recently issued a Pie alpha (which I haven't tried yet)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3...m-aicp-android-ice-cold-project-o8-1-t3731197
There's a guide for rooting + recovery @ https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3...to-rooted-lollipop-locked-bootloader-t3083980
Be sure you follow the instructions very carefully, since you are flashing (the system partition) with the ROM from a Z3 phone.
The process is similar to the Z3 phones:
- flash to an older ROM
- root
- install custom recovery
- using custom recovery, flash with a prerooted, updated ROM
No need to unlock bootloader and no need for custom ROMs.
Asides from that, I don't know how to do the rest of the stuff in your list.
(I'm debating on getting a used Z3t, which is why I'm researching root possibilities .)