I'm picking up a new phone from at&t tomorrow. The choices are the Samsung SG3 and the XO +. I've read the reviews, and after weighing the pros/cons and factoring in the price difference, I'm stumped. Does anyone have any hands on experience they can give me?
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I'm picking up a new phone from at&t tomorrow. The choices are the Samsung SG3 and the XO +. I've read the reviews, and after weighing the pros/cons and factoring in the price difference, I'm stumped. Does anyone have any hands on experience they can give me?
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Personally HOX+ hands down. SG3 dual core vs. HOX+ quad core + 1, really no comparison. Only thing the SG3 has on the HOX+ is the 2gb of ram and sd card slot i believe it has in the USA version. I played with the SG3 in the store as before i knew anything about the HOX+ i was thinking to get it over the new iphone 5. Thing looks and feels like a cheap piece of plastic and not liking it at all and the dull colors the screen produces. Really personally preference on your part but if going off the specs along the HOX+ hands down imo at least.
Walk into the ATT store tomorrow and be the first to play with the HOX+ in the store and i think instantly you will make your mind up .
SG3 has a removable battery. The hox+ doesn't.
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SG3 has a removable battery. The hox+ doesn't.
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I see people complaining so much about removable batteries but unless you live in the stone age, how and when are you not near a wall jack to plug your phone in? I always have my device on the charger while i sleep so i start the day with a fresh charge, i work a desk job in an office so all day at work i can always plug it in if needed, then at home obviously i can plug it in if needed. Unless you're a world back packing traveler, who and why would you carry around 2+ spare batteries with you? lol, never understood that stuff?
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I see people complaining so much about removable batteries but unless you live in the stone age, how and when are you not near a wall jack to plug your phone in? I always have my device on the charger while i sleep so i start the day with a fresh charge, i work a desk job in an office so all day at work i can always plug it in if needed, then at home obviously i can plug it in if needed. Unless you're a world back packing traveler, who and why would you carry around 2+ spare batteries with you? lol, never understood that stuff?
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Agreed. The only time I've ever found a removable battery useful is when a phone is locked up and I need to yank the battery out to fix it.
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Agreed. The only time I've ever found a removable battery useful is when a phone is locked up and I need to yank the battery out to fix it.
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Battery pull on S3 for hard reset is same as holding power button for about 10 seconds on One X, yields same results and cold boots device
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An advantage of a phone with a removable battery is when the battery starts to deteriorate after maybe 3 years. With SGS3, you just buy a spare battery, pop it in and you're good to go. With HOX+, you'll have to take it to a service center and dissect the thing to have the battery replaced, and pay a service fee. Who knows if the phone will still feel as solid after tearing it up and putting it all back together. That said, I am still for the HOX+. Just something to consider if you're keeping the phone for a while.
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An advantage of a phone with a removable battery is when the battery starts to deteriorate after maybe 3 years. With SGS3, you just buy a spare battery, pop it in and you're good to go. With HOX+, you'll have to take it to a service center and dissect the thing to have the battery replaced, and pay a service fee. Who knows if the phone will still feel as solid after tearing it up and putting it all back together. That said, I am still for the HOX+. Just something to consider if you're keeping the phone for a while.
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Well of course but who the heck holds onto the same device for 3+ years, lol? Not matter how cutting edge your current device is (this for example for the time being as in today, who knows about tomorrow), in a few months and for sure in a year your device will be outdated even with the latest software upgrades and you'll be drooling over the next best thing. Longest i've ever kept a device was 2yrs and that was the Iphone 4 when it first came out. Only reason why i held out so long is because i didn't like the S3 at all and had high hopes for the Iphone 5 which is a joke compared to what's out now. 3 years, that's crazy talk my friend
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I see people complaining so much about removable batteries but unless you live in the stone age, how and when are you not near a wall jack to plug your phone in? I always have my device on the charger while i sleep so i start the day with a fresh charge, i work a desk job in an office so all day at work i can always plug it in if needed, then at home obviously i can plug it in if needed. Unless you're a world back packing traveler, who and why would you carry around 2+ spare batteries with you? lol, never understood that stuff?
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I guess it depends upon one's lifestyle. I also charge my phone all night but during the day I am constantly moving. If I get to 20% by 5pm and then need to go out I like to have a spare battery in my pocket or briefcase. Also using the phone as a gps or tethering, which I do during the day, tends to drain the battery more than standby or talking. I spend a lot of time in airports and always see the poor folks gathered around the charging stands or wired to outlets in the floor. I don't have that problem if I have a couple of spare batteries charged. I can use the phone in the airport then on the plane. It takes 30 seconds to change a battery compared to hours to charge. Battery life is irrelevant if you can just replace them when they are dead, it doesn't matter if you get 12 hours or 24. At $4 each you can carry as may spares as you need.
But unfortunately it seems that the SG3 is the last top tier phone with a removable battery. The hox+, LG Optimus G, Sony Experia TL, and the Nokia Lumia 920 all have embedded batteries. Regardless I may end up with a hox+ and have to change the habits that I have developed since 2005. Maybe I will carry one of those AA battery recharging gadgets as a security blanket.
Related
http://www.sony.co.uk/discussions/thread/143742?tstart=0
Just read this over on the official forums. Hopefully the time frame will be up soon
Nicely! Well spotted.
That's good news ^^
it is wonderful news but if they will fix wifi problem which didint fix with last update 3,2,1(release2) and i wait root access
I so love the feel of the tablet s!
Pity I rushed in and went for a xoom... :/
great~may ics will come soon
that is truly great news
Don't know why people are excited about Android 4.0, just because it is a newer version so it would be better. Is SONY known to be a better software company?
SONY Tablet S has very short battery life compared to iPAD, don't shut-off whatever is running in the background that eating up the batteries. I can leave my iPAD 64G for 2 months and power it up and it still have more than half the battery life. I leaved the Tablet S in my brief case for a day or two, it emitted a funny beeping sound. I now figure it out it is because the batteries run down below 10% and that is a warning sound.
Tablet S's charger is from stone-age. You need to carry a AC cable and this little brick. I didn't want to carry the heavy weight and bought an extra one and that cost $39.95 plus 8.5% CA sales tax. But it didn't really solve my problem because I need 4 of them. But charger connector is so unique that there is no substitute and its voltage is not standard so I can't just cut the wire and splice it to an USB cable. Samsung Tablet also has its own charger but it is small (but expensive). But you can use non-Samsung charger if you don't mind it took twice or more as long to charge it (I leave it overnight with an iPad charger). On the other hand, iPAD uses USB charger. Through the years I accumulate enough of those that I never have to carry the charger (small) around except one iPhone cable. I didn't like Apple's fascism on users so I bought the SONY to help out the industry but it is bitter-sweet experience. SONY has better camera and better feel on the hands. However, when it plays HD .wmv files the sound disappear because the hardware is not fast enough in spite it is dual-core at 1Ghz (the video player is a paid commercial version). iPAD2 beats it hands down but you need iTunes to get anything over to iPADs or iPhones that really is a pain at the neck.
I don't care any fancy name Sandwiches or Ice Cream or Android 4. I just want it to run smoothly, not to sleep on me or re-boot at times by itself. Give me a real sleep software that it will keep the battery standby longer because I don't like to wait for couple minutes every time I need to use it. In other words one of the beauty of Tablets over notebooks is instant ON.
I hope someone will answer my post and tell me what I did wrong with my SONY so it got so short operation life (4 hours or so) and short standby battery life (day and half). I don't think I got a defective machine. If that was the case, I would be very disappointed with SONY's quality control. Mine is a 32G version. BTW, the little leather case accessory for this baby is $99.99 plus 8.5% and it is no more than just a bag.
It just shows me SONY is ARROGANT and Apple is FASCIST. Samsung is trying to figure out which side to lean. I just wonder whether Google + Motorola will give use a better true U.S. machine(s).
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Don't know why people are excited about Android 4.0, just because it is a newer version so it would be better. Is SONY known to be a better software company?
SONY Tablet S has very short battery life compared to iPAD, don't shut-off whatever is running in the background that eating up the batteries. I can leave my iPAD 64G for 2 months and power it up and it still have more than half the battery life. I leaved the Tablet S in my brief case for a day or two, it emitted a funny beeping sound. I now figure it out it is because the batteries run down below 10% and that is a warning sound.
Tablet S's charger is from stone-age. You need to carry a AC cable and this little brick. I didn't want to carry the heavy weight and bought an extra one and that cost $39.95 plus 8.5% CA sales tax. But it didn't really solve my problem because I need 4 of them. But charger connector is so unique that there is no substitute and its voltage is not standard so I can't just cut the wire and splice it to an USB cable. Samsung Tablet also has its own charger but it is small (but expensive). But you can use non-Samsung charger if you don't mind it took twice or more as long to charge it (I leave it overnight with an iPad charger). On the other hand, iPAD uses USB charger. Through the years I accumulate enough of those that I never have to carry the charger (small) around except one iPhone cable. I didn't like Apple's fascism on users so I bought the SONY to help out the industry but it is bitter-sweet experience. SONY has better camera and better feel on the hands. However, when it plays HD .wmv files the sound disappear because the hardware is not fast enough in spite it is dual-core at 1Ghz (the video player is a paid commercial version). iPAD2 beats it hands down but you need iTunes to get anything over to iPADs or iPhones that really is a pain at the neck.
I don't care any fancy name Sandwiches or Ice Cream or Android 4. I just want it to run smoothly, not to sleep on me or re-boot at times by itself. Give me a real sleep software that it will keep the battery standby longer because I don't like to wait for couple minutes every time I need to use it. In other words one of the beauty of Tablets over notebooks is instant ON.
I hope someone will answer my post and tell me what I did wrong with my SONY so it got so short operation life (4 hours or so) and short standby battery life (day and half). I don't think I got a defective machine. If that was the case, I would be very disappointed with SONY's quality control. Mine is a 32G version. BTW, the little leather case accessory for this baby is $99.99 plus 8.5% and it is no more than just a bag.
It just shows me SONY is ARROGANT and Apple is FASCIST. Samsung is trying to figure out which side to lean. I just wonder whether Google + Motorola will give use a better true U.S. machine(s).
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Ignoring the rant, the problem with standby usage of only a couple of days is due to your tablet not going to sleep (have a look in the battery usage graph). I had this and fixed it with a factory reset. Somewhere along the line something in an upgrade or similar stopped it sleeping. Factory reset has fixed it all for me.
jychan28 said:
Don't know why people are excited about Android 4.0, just because it is a newer version so it would be better. Is SONY known to be a better software company?
SONY Tablet S has very short battery life compared to iPAD, don't shut-off whatever is running in the background that eating up the batteries. I can leave my iPAD 64G for 2 months and power it up and it still have more than half the battery life. I leaved the Tablet S in my brief case for a day or two, it emitted a funny beeping sound. I now figure it out it is because the batteries run down below 10% and that is a warning sound.
Tablet S's charger is from stone-age. You need to carry a AC cable and this little brick. I didn't want to carry the heavy weight and bought an extra one and that cost $39.95 plus 8.5% CA sales tax. But it didn't really solve my problem because I need 4 of them. But charger connector is so unique that there is no substitute and its voltage is not standard so I can't just cut the wire and splice it to an USB cable. Samsung Tablet also has its own charger but it is small (but expensive). But you can use non-Samsung charger if you don't mind it took twice or more as long to charge it (I leave it overnight with an iPad charger). On the other hand, iPAD uses USB charger. Through the years I accumulate enough of those that I never have to carry the charger (small) around except one iPhone cable. I didn't like Apple's fascism on users so I bought the SONY to help out the industry but it is bitter-sweet experience. SONY has better camera and better feel on the hands. However, when it plays HD .wmv files the sound disappear because the hardware is not fast enough in spite it is dual-core at 1Ghz (the video player is a paid commercial version). iPAD2 beats it hands down but you need iTunes to get anything over to iPADs or iPhones that really is a pain at the neck.
I don't care any fancy name Sandwiches or Ice Cream or Android 4. I just want it to run smoothly, not to sleep on me or re-boot at times by itself. Give me a real sleep software that it will keep the battery standby longer because I don't like to wait for couple minutes every time I need to use it. In other words one of the beauty of Tablets over notebooks is instant ON.
I hope someone will answer my post and tell me what I did wrong with my SONY so it got so short operation life (4 hours or so) and short standby battery life (day and half). I don't think I got a defective machine. If that was the case, I would be very disappointed with SONY's quality control. Mine is a 32G version. BTW, the little leather case accessory for this baby is $99.99 plus 8.5% and it is no more than just a bag.
It just shows me SONY is ARROGANT and Apple is FASCIST. Samsung is trying to figure out which side to lean. I just wonder whether Google + Motorola will give use a better true U.S. machine(s).
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WHAAAAAAAAAAA....
That being said.... My tablet rocks! I am no fan of the ipad that my brother and best friend own and I have no idea how you could go a couple of days without using it... I actually like the power port since I have had two phones with the micro usb where the port went bad... This newly designed power port allows you to simply place in the cradle rather than struggling to force the thing in the stand had it come with a standard port.
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Can't wait for ICS to get here.
I know there is this hype around the S1 getting ICS, but how will it improve performance and functionality?
Men I have the ipad 2 and this a crap not flash soport and dont download apps an games and videos and see you pplay videos you have pot the computer usb cable in te computer tis a **** and the emulators not good in ipad 2 and the jailbreak is only 4.3.3 this tables is much bether with te ipad 2
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WHAAAAAAAAAAA....
That being said.... My tablet rocks! I am no fan of the ipad that my brother and best friend own and I have no idea how you could go a couple of days without using it... I actually like the power port since I have had two phones with the micro usb where the port went bad... This newly designed power port allows you to simply place in the cradle rather than struggling to force the thing in the stand had it come with a standard port.
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Power port has ups & downs. It's a SONY-only cable, which sucks, but it's REALLY comfortable in using it. Better then USB if you ask me, although something universal was good too.
That aside, I really hope ICS will allow the S1 for micro-USB charging, so I can use my Duracell USB charger.
Furthermore, I agree that ICS has no REAL benefits on tablets, but it's always nice to have, no?
you're forgetting something.
a.) under the hood improvements
b.) pretty soon all droid tablet app devs will be targeting ICS. Honeycomb is a dead platform + it has tiny market share.
Not sure how reputable this site is but according to their speculation it is stating a release date by February 2012. Just thought I would share...
http://www.digitalversus.com/tablet...blet-android-4-0-update-announced-n22612.html
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Not sure how reputable this site is but according to their speculation it is stating a release date by February 2012. Just thought I would share...
http://www.digitalversus.com/tablet...blet-android-4-0-update-announced-n22612.html
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Seen it around on a few sites that ICS for Sony S will be rolling out in February
Its also official on their Facebook page.
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Its also official on their Facebook page.
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If its on Facebook then it must be true lol. I tried looking for their fan page but there is a few of them.
I read somewhere that ICS doesn't partition the "internal" memory space for apps and OS as honeycomb currently does, so this might release some space for those with the 16Gb version of tablets.
Anyone else heard this? If true, I'm sure it'll be good news for a lot of users.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOHb5NfKAC0#t=0m09s
Well I got my Titan for a penny so I'll be selling it and buying that the moment it comes out....
*grumble grumble*
How about you guys?
http://www.wpcentral.com/hands-htc-titan-ii-att-video
Sorry a non replace able battery kills it for me, also I like the metal shell.
Titan II
I had a feeling that Titan II was going to come. But if the only difference is a 16meg cam and LTE it's not very exciting also since the battery is not replaceable. I dont know why people are so gun ho with having super internet speeds on a Phone. I'd be happy if they got 3G speeds (aka 4G on AT&T) working correctly.
I wonder when they where doing the show and tell at CES on the Titan II if the phone did a random power cycle like my Original Titan and the replacement Titan I have now. Ha!
Seeing that the titan's speeds are definitely throttled, and 4G is really just H (or might as well be), trading up seems like a good idea. I have had good luck with my HTC batteries, so I'm not too worried about that. Got my titan in the penny sale, I no reason not to sell it and trade up.
Also, non removeable back means the antenna issues will be permanently solved, and I'm sure the titan II will get a fix for the noise cancellation before the titan
Not being able to take the battery out is a deal breaker for me. I just watch all my friends with iOS devices always looking for some place to plug in when we are traveling.
I just pop my Amaze replacement battery in and I am off to the races.
I will personally wait for the multi-core and W8 kernal.
I was definitely looking at purchasing an extra battery for my Titan. I didn't have one for my Focus, and there were times I wished I did. However, I would definitely love to have an LTE phone. 5x speed for the same price I'm paying for data now sounds good to me.
As for throttled speed, I did several speed tests and got 5-6 Mbps and as high as 7 Mbps on my AT&T Titan using the Wi-Fi tethering and a laptop. I don't think they are throttled so much as the antenna on the Titan sucks and HSPA drops off quick with signal degradation. In fact, my only major complaint with the Titan is the antenna performance. I have to wonder if that's fixed in the Titan II.
Hmm, I have several phones so when one dies I used to just pop my Sim card in another one.
Recently, I bought a portable battery pack so I just charge my batteries from that. It's 12AH or so. Never again gonna waste money on spare batteries for each and every phone I get...
I was debating on getting a portable battery pack, but wasn't sure how well/fast they worked. Which one did you get?
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I was debating on getting a portable battery pack, but wasn't sure how well/fast they worked. Which one did you get?
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I got the Newtrent IMP1000
There are some up to 20AH or so, but after looking through many reviews I settled for 11.1AH, because a lot of the reviews were saying the bigger ones were melting or otherwise breaking down in some fashion. Mine is only 2-3 months old, and I've only charged it 3 times, so the capacity is just fine for me, and it doesn't look like it's going to die any time soon.
Charges your device as fast as a USB charger. Mine is 5V 1A output, but there are models that support up to 2A output (for iPad and other). Since I only have one device that uses 2A I didn't think it was worth getting. The battery itself charges at 2A 5V input, and takes about 8 hours to charge (I remember when AAs took 8 hours to charge...)
It comes with a USB plug that has several interchangeable heads (microUSB, miniUSB) but I never really use them. I bought a nice backpack, packed up the battery, all necessary cables and my old phones, my laptop and laptop gaming accessories and I keep it in my car (it doesn't charge the laptop, to be clear. USB out only). I could go for weeks without an outlet , just hope my car never gets stolen.
Here are the ones I compared
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php#sparqSpecs
http://www.newtrent.com/HTC-EVO-android-External-Battery-p/imp500_android.htm
http://www.newtrent.com/IMP50D-dual-USB-5000mAh-iphone-battery-p/imp50d.htm
http://www.newtrent.com/Best-HTC-android-phone-Battery-Pack-p/imp1000_android.htm
I think HTC shouldn't have named this device as the "Titan 2".
Because it only has a better camera/battery and of course 4G LET;on the other hand,it's thicker and the backside has less aluminum and more plastic(Compared to Titan 1)
True. XDA thinks it should've been called the Titan LTE and I agree. It would better clarify the 4G product choice and also show it's an incremental upgrade.
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I expected better from HTC
I figured that HTC would have done a lot better, after reading though the thread here, I'm not very impressed and now even HTC is going with the un-removable battery!
I guess it's a good money maker for the providers and manufactures, if anything goes wrong with it, just get a new err well with ATT it's a used replacement phone. Regardless of owning it for 90 days or 1 yr, their policy is after 30 days and the Phone wiggs out on ya, you get a used replacement.
Well you do have the option to send it in to ATT to get it repaired, but then you have no phone unless you have a backup phone. I when through this issue several years back with Razer Flip phone came out, I ran in to problems with key pad separating in certain places and not others on the phone, I had no choice but take a used replacement.
And when that one also had the same issues, I just gave up and got my HTC HD2 T9193 and just upgraded the rom, I think I will just stick with what I have and fall for all the glitzy hype.
I have several of the original Incredible batteries that are 3.7VDC, 1300mAh, 4.81Whr lying around and with Sandy coming for a visit here in NJ, I was wondering if these can be used as backups for the 4G LTE Incredible (3.8VDC, 1700mAh, 6.46Whr). I do expect to lose power since we do for all major storms and I have a generator but would be nice if these can be used in this phone. If so, could these be charged in this phone as well? Thanks!
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I have several of the original Incredible batteries that are 3.7VDC, 1300mAh, 4.81Whr lying around and with Sandy coming for a visit here in NJ, I was wondering if these can be used as backups for the 4G LTE Incredible (3.8VDC, 1700mAh, 6.46Whr). I do expect to lose power since we do for all major storms and I have a generator but would be nice if these can be used in this phone. If so, could these be charged in this phone as well? Thanks!
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i think they'll work in the phone ok but i switched batteries on my inc2 to my 4g buy mistake one time, phone worked fine, but would not charge, don;t know why or if this was an isolated situation, i'd test it and see.
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i think they'll work in the phone ok but i switched batteries on my inc2 to my 4g buy mistake one time, phone worked fine, but would not charge, don;t know why or if this was an isolated situation, i'd test it and see.
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If his generator fails, he'll have no way to charge it anyway.
I don't know if the Incredible battery is the same physical size, but if it works, great. I'd have to spend some time finding my original Incredible, then taking my cases off both phones, then switching out the batteries to check.
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If his generator fails, he'll have no way to charge it anyway.
I don't know if the Incredible battery is the same physical size, but if it works, great. I'd have to spend some time finding my original Incredible, then taking my cases off both phones, then switching out the batteries to check.
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don't know either, the inc2 batteries are the same as the 4g except for the mah rating.
Well, after getting them charged up in my son's Inc, I decided to try one in my 4G phone and while they are the same physical size they won't fit. The tabs on the contacts end are different. Damn...
My generator won't fail, I treat it like my baby! Cover it up at night when it's all cold and change it's oil on a regular basis. :fingers-crossed:
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Well, after getting them charged up in my son's Inc, I decided to try one in my 4G phone and while they are the same physical size they won't fit. The tabs on the contacts end are different. Damn...
My generator won't fail, I treat it like my baby! Cover it up at night when it's all cold and change it's oil on a regular basis. :fingers-crossed:
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You should be able to use those batteries. People that switched from the original incredible to the incredible 2 reported being able to use their old batteries. It did require them to file down the tabs on the old batteries but after that they fit fine and worked. Since we discovered recently that the incredible 2 batteries work in the 4g it should work out fine for you. Not sure about charging but in your case you'll probably want to limit you generator to essential things.
Btw during large storms like that where you lose power, how does Verizon's network hold up? If the towers lose power doesn't that mean the network goes down in that area too?
Thanks! We've lived through plenty before but they seem to think this one might pack more of a wallop. I travel a lot and was suppose to head up to Boston for the week but decided to cancel all my appointments today. No reason to risk one's safety for a job. It looks like Pittsburgh will be getting some of this as well!
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Thanks! We've lived through plenty before but they seem to think this one might pack more of a wallop. I travel a lot and was suppose to head up to Boston for the week but decided to cancel all my appointments today. No reason to risk one's safety for a job. It looks like Pittsburgh will be getting some of this as well!
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yeah, we are supposed to get 50-60 mph winds, looks like a dandy.you guys are going to get the worst of it though, be safe
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You should be able to use those batteries. People that switched from the original incredible to the incredible 2 reported being able to use their old batteries. It did require them to file down the tabs on the old batteries but after that they fit fine and worked. Since we discovered recently that the incredible 2 batteries work in the 4g it should work out fine for you. Not sure about charging but in your case you'll probably want to limit you generator to essential things.
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I was thinking of doing that but one thing I'm concerned about is the label and contacts placement on battery. On the original Dinc, the contacts are opposite (left-to-right) of the 4G. This could be why the older batteries won't charge.
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Btw during large storms like that where you lose power, how does Verizon's network hold up? If the towers lose power doesn't that mean the network goes down in that area too?
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In the past, it hasn't been too big of a problem and even our cable has worked when running on generator. Of course you never know what the next storm will bring. Last spring we were out of power for 5 days and Freehold 8 miles away was over 10 days. I had neighbors lined up to take showers (everyone here is on a well). My generator runs the well, one furnace, frig and a couple of circuits of lights. I won't let the kids plug in the big LED TV so they use the old 36" tube TV that's >25 years old and going strong. The winter isn't an issue because we have a high efficiency wood insert downstairs which will run you out of the house if you open it up. The benefits of living on 5 acres and all oak trees.
GeekDragon said:
I was thinking of doing that but one thing I'm concerned about is the label and contacts placement on battery. On the original Dinc, the contacts are opposite (left-to-right) of the 4G. This could be why the older batteries won't charge.
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No, the incredible 2 batteries that were tried in the incredible 4, which are the same size and contact location, work but only one person tried charging and reported it wouldn't work. I'm planning on confirming that tomorrow. Since the battery isn't flipped from Inc 2 to the 4g polarity shouldn't be reversed. Unless the contact polarity inside the batteries themselves are reversed, but not sure why they would do that. To me I think it's worth a try to break the tabs and try them. If they don't work you shouldn't have any problem reusing them in the og incredible.
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In the past, it hasn't been too big of a problem and even our cable has worked when running on generator. Of course you never know what the next storm will bring. Last spring we were out of power for 5 days and Freehold 8 miles away was over 10 days. I had neighbors lined up to take showers (everyone here is on a well). My generator runs the well, one furnace, frig and a couple of circuits of lights. I won't let the kids plug in the big LED TV so they use the old 36" tube TV that's >25 years old and going strong. The winter isn't an issue because we have a high efficiency wood insert downstairs which will run you out of the house if you open it up. The benefits of living on 5 acres.
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I hear ya, I'm on well and septic but probably not as rural as what you have. Gotta love that wood burner tho. I have a simple insert in the living room that heats most of the first floor surprisingly. I'd love to put one in the basement ducted into the furnace but so far am happy with the insert. Don't have many power issues so I haven't bothered to wire a generator to the well yet.
Please... someone help me as I have bought this phone without a warranty and likewise have no insurance.. and I JUST bought the phone maybe a month ago!!!!/B]
My phone won't keep a charge, it charges only to a certain point while on the charger (that is any charger, inc. the one that came with the phone), but will die within about 15-20 mins after taking it off of the charger, and if I use it while on the charger it will drain the battery the same way as if it was off of the charger, and die within 10-15 mins! Likewise, it started doing this funky vibrating stuff just an hour ago and will not boot up while on the charger at all anymore! I did a little research and found different opinions.. the most relevant being a need to replace the charger port and the other to change the battery. This is crazy as my phone as well as the accompanying accessories such as the battery and the charger were bought brand spanking new and SHOULD NOT be going crazy like this!
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I take it the phone is 100% stock; not rooted or no custom ROM? And you say that it is new and you did nothing to cause this? You didn't get it wet?
Try a factory restore. If that doesn't help then I would try a new battery.
Sounds like a failed battery to me.
A trip to your phone carrier store would be easy enough. I think they would at least try another battery for quick diagnosis.
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I take it the phone is 100% stock; not rooted or no custom ROM? And you say that it is new and you did nothing to cause this? You didn't get it wet?
Try a factory restore. If that doesn't help then I would try a new battery.
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No, I did no cause the issue nor did I get my phone wet. It simply started doing what I described in my initial post.. I noticed it when I plugged my phone in and it has been an ongoing situation for about 4-5 days now.
Thank you for the response and suggestion
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Sounds like a failed battery to me.
A trip to your phone carrier store would be easy enough. I think they would at least try another battery for quick diagnosis.
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Thank you very much for the quick response. I figured that the battery was the issue. I had a Samsung Galaxy 3 prior to purchasing the Note and it had the exact same issue,.. well not the same exact symptoms, but the need for a new battery due to not taking a charge, and I hadn't had that particular phone more than 6 months! Perhaps it is a Samsung manufacturing issue with faulty batteries, similar to car manufacturers who have massive recalls on their vehicles due to faulty engine or other car parts. My physician told me that I needed to switch to an IPhone, lol... better quality I assume. Perhaps he is right.. ???
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No, I did no cause the issue nor did I get my phone wet. It simply started doing what I described in my initial post.. I noticed it when I plugged my phone in and it has been an ongoing situation for about 4-5 days now.
Thank you for the response and suggestion
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Oh.. I forgot, yes the phone is 100% stock as you assumed. Terrible that it is doing what it is doing! Guess I need to get that battery then... ho hum.. more moola out of my darn pockets!
Your carrier (AT&T, T-Mobil, etc) store would at least put in a known good battery to see if that is all it is. And if so, then a new the cost of a new battery is next.
And as far as the iPhone......been down that road, and I could never go back to the iPhone. It was good for it's purpose and reliable. But NO more reliable than any Android phone I've owned. (3 of them).
And should the battery die in the iPhone, you will need to take it or send it back to an iPhone repair center. You don't just pull the back of it off, and replace the battery. At least in my 2 - iPhone 3G versions anyway.
And then there is rooting...cant hack an iPhone. You can jail break them, but that is not the same thing, and you still have no control over the OS.
JMO on the apple stuff.. Good, but VERY limited.
Keep your Note, it's better IMO, and has a huge screen.
It is with a sad and heavy heart that I must state that my G3 died tonight while I was using it. It just shut off unexpectedly while it was charging. This was the first time this has ever happened. I can get it to turn on briefly, and then it shuts off again but there are also times where it just doesn't respond.
If I remove the battery and plug it into the charger, usually the battery with a question mark would show up to state the battery was missing. It won't even do that. That to me signals it has finally died. I'm going to miss this phone. Funny how it died the month that my 2-year-contract was up.
I'm looking at probably the Moto-Z Play Droid. I used to like Motorola products. This one has expandable storage, which is great. Hate that it doesn't have a removable battery though. But, it will bring down my monthly fees by about $3. But it sucks because my bill would have dropped $20 a month since the G3 was off contract.
I want to thank everyone who helped me through the past two years with everything here. That is especially @bweN diorD and @roirraW "edor" ehT.
Farewell fellow G3 users! We might meet up again some day.
Sorry to hear about the catastrophic failure! Take care, good luck, and hope to see you around.
happened to me also but plugging the cable while holding up button after reinserting battery got me into download mode but there was nothing on the screen same like you. after that i flashed 10b tot and it is working again. you can give it a try.
That's horrible to hear, I have been reading your and the road warrior posts as I am new to the LG G3 and your are a helpful person!!
I got my G3 off a friend as it was hard to find a non K model on swappa. I came from the horribly locked down CID 11 GS5.
Thanks for the posts you left and the responses you gave me in my short time getting acquired!
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Farewell fellow G3 users! We might meet up again some day.
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My condolences on your loss :angel:
If you're going to sell it please let us know. If it's not repairable it can parted out
& Good luck with your new gear. Hopefully the dev community is strong for whatever you decide to get :good:
It was a hard decision between the Galaxy S7 and the Moto Z. Moto Z pulled me over because it was pretty close to pure stock Android. But four things pushed me the S7:
Moto Z has USB-C, so that means I have to get all new charging cables for the car, etc.
No headphone jack. Sorry, this is a biggie. Yes, the Moto Z comes with a USB-C adapter to use headphones, but nope. Plus, my car doesn't have Blue Tooth, so I need the headphone jack.
What was a selling point was a negative for me: the add-on. Expensive, limited to the Moto Z, and stuff I really didn't need. Plus, even though they promised it would work with later models, we all know how that goes.
One more was the camera. Comparisons between the S7 and the Moto Z were no contest. The S7 takes WAY better pictures.
Of course, when I got to the store, found out I got a free Samsung VR Gear from Oculus! Awesome! Didn't even know that would happen.
As for my G3, it's toast. It just won't start up at all, so it's definitely a hardware failure. I can't even get it into download mode to try and flash 10b back on it. So, the phone has died.
It was a fun two years that I was here. Learned a lot and will miss a lot of you, but many of you have also moved on as well.
I'll lurk around still and help those who are seeking assistance with their G3s.
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happened to me also but plugging the cable while holding up button after reinserting battery got me into download mode but there was nothing on the screen same like you. after that i flashed 10b tot and it is working again. you can give it a try.
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Yeah, I tried this. It goes into DL mode but after 30 seconds, it shuts down before I can do anything, so there is definitely a hardware failure going on. I've reseated all the connectors on the motherboard and that didn't help.
The phone is toast. Loving my S7 though right now and the free Samsung Gear VR I got with it, along with the $10/month monthly payment with no trade-in option they had over over this past weekend. That came along at the right time! :laugh:
Take care fellow G3 users. May your phone last longer than mine (about 2 years). I loved the G3 and what it offered. I was even happy with it on stock.
I won't be doing anything with my S7 either other than disable some bloat (which there really isn't that much on here like the G3 has). Looks like there is a Nougat beta going on, but I'm going to stay away from that after the nasty experience I had with the 49A OTA. Might be that it didn't cause my G3 to fail, but it sure was quite a coincidence!
Try a new battery. I had a battery go bad. It's a cheap fix.
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Try a new battery. I had a battery go bad. It's a cheap fix.
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Not sure it's the battery and I've already replaced the phone. I might take it into the battery store and see if they'll let me test it with a new battery before I purchase one. Would be interesting to see if it works or not. I did try to flash it back to 10g and it got interrupted in the middle of it, so it's probably in BULK mode and right now, I don't feel like taking it apart to expose the connectors to "short" it out. Did it once, but now that I have an S7, not sure if I want to mess with it right now. But, I'll hold onto it until I'm ready to try a new battery in it.
I had a problem with my phone 8 months back . I went on craigslist and bought another used. I was lucky it had not taken an update. I rooted it without having to go back and tot it. . even better I took the battery out and put it in my old one confirming the battery was bad. now I have a backup and another battery was less then 10 bucks. hope it's your battery. I don't recall the symptoms just it wouldn't boot up full.
My experience (2 phones - mine & wife's) was that a dying batter swells up and can cause collateral damage to the phone. This happened first on my phone after about 18 months; I could see a gap where the screen was pushed up away from the bezel. At the same time a 5mm or so strip at the top of the screen became unresponsive to touch. New batteries are (were?) only $15 from LG. That fixed the bulge problem, but the touch problem remained. I got a used phone off FleaBay (was in excellent condition) for a bit over $100. About 3-4 months later, my wife's phone started to show the same bulge in the screen. New battery solved the problem; fortunately no other damage. Her phone is a bit newer than mine, so the failure was at about the same point in the life. Admittedly we're hard on batteries because we routinely stick the phones on the wireless charging pad overnight, and they tend to stay warm.
My old phone has been relegated to Pandora player duty. I don't see any thing in a newer phone that I need, and few have wireless charging and/or replaceable batteries. I'll probably keep swapping in new batteries every 12-18 months and keep them going as long as possible.
I have been very happy with my G3 over the past two years. My GF and I each have one, so we are compatible for batteries and charging, etc.
I have recently been wanting something newer and different, but without a lot of justification.
I was looking at the G6 from Verizon, $480 on plan, which is nice. But, that would have forced me off my OG Unlimited plan, which would then cost me at least $20 more a month.
I decided to try the HTC U11, since it is bootloader unlockable and they swear that the Unlocked version also works on Verizon CDMA. F'n better work.
G6 might have better screen. U11 has better camera and 2x storage @ 64GB. Hope I don't miss swappable batteries.
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I have been very happy with my G3 over the past two years. My GF and I each have one, so we are compatible for batteries and charging, etc.
I have recently been wanting something newer and different, but without a lot of justification.
I was looking at the G6 from Verizon, $480 on plan, which is nice. But, that would have forced me off my OG Unlimited plan, which would then cost me at least $20 more a month.
I decided to try the HTC U11, since it is bootloader unlockable and they swear that the Unlocked version also works on Verizon CDMA. F'n better work.
G6 might have better screen. U11 has better camera and 2x storage @ 64GB. Hope I don't miss swappable batteries.
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I'm waiting until October for Pixel 2 most likely. It would be nice to have an unlocked phone that gets support from the manufacturer in a timely manner. Plus, no Alexa and possibly a headphone jack.
I'm actually pretty sold on Alexa. I have two Echo Dots and a ton of WeMo devices, thermostat, security, etc.
I wanted the Alexa integration, to be honest.
Just wanted to give an update. S7 is still going strong on Nougat with no issues. Battery life is good for me (except when I play games which is most of the time ) and performance is great. Definitely better than the G3, but I really had no issues with the G3 performance-wise, but I can tell a difference in response on certain apps/games.
Still miss the G3 and wish I could have made it work, but it has since been retired to the recycle bin. :crying:
Now in my family, my oldest daughter and my wife have S7s as well. My daughter was the first to get it. Then me. Then my wife. Our other daughter has an iPhone 7s. Tried to get her to switch to Android, but she does have a lot wrapped up in her phone as far as music, apps, etc. Plus, she as an Apple Notebook, so in many respects, it all works for her. I just hate when she has issues with it not backing up photos and such correctly. And same with her music and trying to get it off the phone. One of the major reasons why I never went to an iPhone after seeing all the issues my daughters had with their iPods so many years back. That pretty much told me to stay away if I can't easily backup up music and files from my phone.