Hey everyone I have a problem I just flashed CyanogenMod 10 - GANGNAM STYLE - Nov. 11, 2012 and I am stuck in a boot loop. I am on HBOOT 1.58 with S-OFF but I noticed my bootloader is locked but it use to be unlocked. I came from Mean Rom and I am guessing thats where my bootloader got locked but I am not sure. Anyway even my nandroid backups get me stuck in a boot loop and anything I flash boot loops as well, is that because my bootloader is locked? If so whats the best way to go about unlocking it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Konfuzion said:
Hey everyone I have a problem I just flashed CyanogenMod 10 - GANGNAM STYLE - Nov. 11, 2012 and I am stuck in a boot loop. I am on HBOOT 1.58 with S-OFF but I noticed my bootloader is locked but it use to be unlocked. I came from Mean Rom and I am guessing thats where my bootloader got locked but I am not sure. Anyway even my nandroid backups get me stuck in a boot loop and anything I flash boot loops as well, is that because my bootloader is locked? If so whats the best way to go about unlocking it?
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See the "?" in the title of your thread? And the two "?'s" in the last line of your post. We have have a forum for questions called, oddly enough, the Q&A Forum.
Your bootloader is probably locked because you did the wire trick to get S-OFF and that's fine. Don't unlock it. It's better to flash a custom bootloader than using the htcdev method to unlock it again, and that will give you access to same fastboot commands.
For most ROM's you need an hboot lower than 1.58 so I'll refer you to this post and suggest you go with the JBear 1.50.5050 bootloader unless you decide to run a ROM such as Cool ICS or Viper3D that currently requires the 1.58 bootloader.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
See the "?" in the title of your thread? And the two "?'s" in the last line of your post. We have have a forum for questions called, oddly enough, the Q&A Forum.
Your bootloader is probably locked because you did the wire trick to get S-OFF and that's fine. Don't unlock it. It's better to flash a custom bootloader than using the htcdev method to unlock it again, and that will give you access to same fastboot commands.
For most ROM's you need an hboot lower than 1.58 so I'll refer you to this post and suggest you go with the JBear 1.50.5050 bootloader unless you decide to run a ROM such as Cool ICS or Viper3D that currently requires the 1.58 bootloader.
ramjet73
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Thanks for the help, my bad on posting in the wrong section.
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I just successfully performed S-off but my bootloader changed to "locked". Is that normal?
Also, I declined to install jp modified hboot because I was not sure what it was. Do I have to install another hboot after S-off?
S-OFF > unlocked bootloader. You don't need an unlocked bootloader when you are S-OFF.
With a stock locked bootloader you won't be able to use most fastboot commands. That's the purpose of the jpbear hboot. It allows you to use them without unlocking. However, if you ever go back S-ON, you have to have a stock bootloader or you'll brick, so you should only use a modded hboot if you need the fastboot commands. Otherwise, stock is just fine.
I read a lot about this subject in this thread last night:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852228
Could give you some useful info on the pros and cons of flashing the j-nut hboot or not and keeping locked or unlocking.
shrike1978 said:
S-OFF > unlocked bootloader. You don't need an unlocked bootloader when you are S-OFF.
With a stock locked bootloader you won't be able to use most fastboot commands. That's the purpose of the jpbear hboot. It allows you to use them without unlocking. However, if you ever go back S-ON, you have to have a stock bootloader or you'll brick, so you should only use a modded hboot if you need the fastboot commands. Otherwise, stock is just fine.
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Sorry for the noob questions. I don't know much about the tech, I can only follow the instructions. So, do I need a modified bootloader if I want to flash Rom that require S-off or is the stock bootloader OK? I want to flash a Rom for which I need to be S-off and on the latest RUU.
I'd guess that 99% of people who do the jbear s-off procedure take the modified hboot as an uniformed choice. They figure if jbear provided this, then it must be great.
If you do not install the jbear hboot, you should unlock your bootloader using htcdev unlock bin file. You will have the following benefits with s-off, stock unlocked hboot:
o can ruu with unlocked bootloader. you will never need to relock before performing an ruu.
o install ROMs easier without the need to install kernels via ph98img.zip. method
o able to fastboot flash recovery and boot/kernel
o less bricking risks in the future
being s-off with the locked jbear modified hboot has the advantages of:
o displaying Locked, but can do everything an unlocked bootloader can do.
o makes it easier to lie to Verizon that you never tampered with the phone, never unlocked, never ROMed, it is not your fault the phone is bricked.
o able to fastboot flash recovery and boot/kernel
o able to fastboot flash hboot/bootloaders and some other fastboot commands that no developers are using.
One guy went so far as to hexedit his hboot to display "s-on" and "locked" to hide the fact that he is s-off and unlocked. He bricked his phone on his first attempt. got phone insurance to replace his phone. Then he got others to test his later attempts which work and didnt brick. So if you want to lie with impunity to Verizon, don't use jbear hboot, instead use this guy's hboot. you'll find it in the developer's forum.
Personally I take great care and deliberation about what changes I make to my phone because I do not plan on lieing to get someone else to pay for my mistakes.
Wendemixda said:
I just successfully performed S-off but my bootloader changed to "locked". Is that normal?
Also, I declined to install jp modified hboot because I was not sure what it was. Do I have to install another hboot after S-off?
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Yes it is normal....see what the other guys say about jb hboot.....for me, since I haven't and don't plan on having to use fastboot commands, I just left it locked with stock hboot.
How can I reunlock mine? S off locked bootloader
An old HTC Incredible 4G
EzraDi said:
How can I reunlock mine? S off locked bootloader
An old HTC Incredible 4G
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This is the Rezound forums. You should find the Incredible forums and ask there, although I think a lot of Rezound users used to have Incredibles, but it's pretty dead here now that the phone is 4 years old.
feralicious said:
This is the Rezound forums. You should find the Incredible forums and ask there, although I think a lot of Rezound users used to have Incredibles, but it's pretty dead here now that the phone is 4 years old.
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Thank you
I just flashed the global RUU when i was s-off and now it says that my hboot is locked but yet i still have soff and my recovery so whats up with the locked bootloader and do i need to unlock it? cause ive had problems restoring nandroids so i had to flash a rom from scratch
Edit: found out i couldnt have a space in the naming of my nandroids, so everything is working perfectly well with the locked bootloader
xxtsxx said:
I just flashed the global RUU when i was s-off and now it says that my hboot is locked but yet i still have soff and my recovery so whats up with the locked bootloader and do i need to unlock it? cause ive had problems restoring nandroids so i had to flash a rom from scratch
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From what I understand as long as your s-off your good to go but I could be wrong
Ohschit said:
From what I understand as long as your s-off your good to go but I could be wrong
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hmm okay cool makes my life easier, thanks!
The RUU gave you a new stock hboot.
You have two choices. Either unlock the bootloader, or install custom hboot that is a proper replacement for the version of your stock hboot.
Personally I just unlock the stock bootloader and all works well.
I think most people here use a Jbear modified hboot which can do unlocked functions while locked. "See Ma, by bootloader says locked, I'm a good boy" kind of attitude.
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I just flashed the global RUU when i was s-off and now it says that my hboot is locked but yet i still have soff and my recovery so whats up with the locked bootloader and do i need to unlock it? cause ive had problems restoring nandroids so i had to flash a rom from scratch
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s-off> lock / unlock
so it doesnt matter if your phone is locked or unlocked. s-off removes the need for unlock giving you full access to the phone and not just an unlocked boot loader
both rowsger
synisterwolf said:
s-off> lock / unlock
so it doesnt matter if your phone is locked or unlocked. s-off removes the need for unlock giving you full access to the phone and not just an unlocked boot loader
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alright thanks im just gonna leave it as it is, thanks for the help guys
Hey guys,
So the last time I flashed ROMs was before the ICS update rolled out for the EVO3D. I want to start playing with the new ICS roms, but I'm not quite sure on how to proceed. I was hoping for some instruction. Here's what I have:
JBear Hboot (so S-OFF)
HBOOT - 1.50.5050
RADIO - 1.06.00.1216 (also S-OFF)
Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you
In my impatience, I flashed a stock ICS RUU.exe. I now have HBOOT 1.58 (but not JBear - I believe it is still S-OFF). However, when I try to access Recovery, I get an image of a black phone with a red triangle with an exclamation mark inside of it. Help!
your recovery is wiped. flash it again.
btw what does your bootloader say? s-off? if you're s-on then unlock bootloader then flash recovery
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In my impatience, I flashed a stock ICS RUU.exe. I now have HBOOT 1.58 (but not JBear - I believe it is still S-OFF). However, when I try to access Recovery, I get an image of a black phone with a red triangle with an exclamation mark inside of it. Help!
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You're fine. Since you are S-OFF you just need to download and flash a custom bootloader and then reflash your recovery via the "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" command, then you can flash or restore a rooted ROM.
The stock 1.58 bootloader you have now won't let you run that fastboot command without doing the htc unlock, and the custom bootloader is a better choice. Once you unlock the bootloader, it will show "***RELOCKED***" instead of "***LOCKED***" if you return to stock, and that flags to HTC/Sprint that your phone has been unlocked. You could also flash a custom recovery using a PG86IMG.zip file if that's easier.
BTW, the next time you start a thread with a question it should be in the Q&A forum.
ramjet73
Thanks for the help, ramjet (and for your post on how to change hboot when S-OFF)! I thought I did post this in Q/A - sorry! If a mod could move this thread there, that would be great.
I think my problems should be solved, but I'll post again if I run into any problems. Thanks again
Guys, I didn't find any explanation for this here, and I still have a problem. I have HTC EVO 3D GSM..
I was on 1.53 hboot and I unlocked bootloader via HTCdev.com. After that I wanted to do s-off with "wire trick"..I successfully made it. I wanted to install Disarmed Toaster ROM, but I had a bootloop. So, I downloaded new PG86IMG.zip, downgraded hboot, and now I have 2.3 GB android, with LOCKED BL and S-OFF..now..How do I get UNLOCKED bootloader..I tried with htcdev.com again, but failed..There is error failed: remote not allowed
Hope you can help me..
This post explains the situation you are describing on the CDMA version, and I suspect it is very much the same on the GSM model. If you want to read the original explanation by Unknownforce it is here.
You should be able to use the JBear hboot for your phone instead on unlocking the bootloader, or if you need an older version I think I read there is a GSM version of the Revolutionary bootloader.
ramjet73
You just installed JBear again and you will gain UNLOCKED. Or you should Unlocked again w/ HTCdev.
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I dont think locked should be a problem as long as you are s-off. Someone correct me if i'm wrong but i believe you can flash roms/kernels etc now.
why do you need it to be unlocked?
EM|NEM said:
I dont think locked should be a problem as long as you are s-off. Someone correct me if i'm wrong but i believe you can flash roms/kernels etc now.
why do you need it to be unlocked?
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This is correct. You do not need boot loader unlocked I'd you are s-off.
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EM|NEM said:
I dont think locked should be a problem as long as you are s-off. Someone correct me if i'm wrong but i believe you can flash roms/kernels etc now.
why do you need it to be unlocked?
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This is correct. You do not need boot loader unlocked I'd you are s-off.
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Some people still seem to unlock the bootloader after gaining S-OFF so they can run fastboot commands like "flash" and "erase". If you try to run those commands with a locked bootloader you will get the "failed: remote not allowed" error even with radio S-OFF.
The wire trick leaves the bootloader locked, but choosing the JBear hboot or flashing another custom version (engineering or Revolutionary) is a better way to get access to those commands than unlocking the bootloader again.
ramjet73
Thank you all..I did what had to be done..Now, I have s-off with Jpbear hboot..mwakious rom..and it works like charm ..This is my first ROM installed on HTC EVO 3D..and I hope I will get used to install new ones ..
ramjet73 said:
Some people still seem to unlock the bootloader after gaining S-OFF so they can run fastboot commands like "flash" and "erase". If you try to run those commands with a locked bootloader you will get the "failed: remote not allowed" error even with radio S-OFF.
The wire trick leaves the bootloader locked, but choosing the JBear hboot or flashing another custom version (engineering or Revolutionary) is a better way to get access to those commands than unlocking the bootloader again.
ramjet73
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what would we do without you sir. I learn something new here everyday
Hello!
I own a HTC EVO 3D (GSM) and I have to send it back for warranty purposes (my speaker is broken). I was S-OFF using Revolutionary.
Now I have stock ROM, stock Recovery and I'm S-ON, but it still says RELOCKED in the bootloader. Is there anything I can do to make it LOCKED?
If this question has already been asked, I'm sorry, but I haven't been able to find it.
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Now I have stock ROM, stock Recovery and I'm S-ON, but it still says RELOCKED in the bootloader. Is there anything I can do to make it LOCKED?
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You can find your answer in this post.
ramjet73
Pretty much the same question the other day, Don't ya love that
At least you can tag your own posts instantly ramjet. lol.
ramjet73 said:
You can find your answer in this post.
ramjet73
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Thanks for quick response. I have another question though. How can I flash lock_bootloader since I have relocked bootloader and no custom recovery? Do I have to unlock bootloader, flash a recovery, flash lock_bootloader in recovery and then my bootloader will be locked and I will have the standard recovery image?
sh080 said:
Thanks for quick response. I have another question though. How can I flash lock_bootloader since I have relocked bootloader and no custom recovery? Do I have to unlock bootloader, flash a recovery, flash lock_bootloader in recovery and then my bootloader will be locked and I will have the standard recovery image?
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The lock_bootloader.zip file only works if you are S-OFF because of the partition it updates, in which case you would need to install a custom recovery, flash the zip then run the RUU and set S-ON to get everything back to 100% stock. If you are S-ON you would have to do the wire trick to reset your bootloader status to "locked", then flash the RUU and set S-ON.
ramjet73
Thanks a lot for your answers
Ramjet was born for it.