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Hey everyone, sorry if this has cropped up previously but I've searched to no avail and no one from Microsoft has an answer either.
I've got a new HTC Titan sitting here, completely unused. I won it at the Windows Phone Inner Circle event in Denver weeks before the device's US launch, but I still haven't switched over. This is because the device is a UK phone. The phone does not appear to have any US settings at all, is unlocked, and even comes with a UK plug instead of a US one. Presumably, this is because I won the device before the US version was ready for release.
The issue is that even when I switch my region settings over to "English (US)", nothing actually changes on the phone when it restarts...everything is still English (UK). For example, "synchronising", "favourites", "colour", etc. At first I thought that this wasn't a big deal, but it might be if other region settings persist. So I have three related questions that I'd love to find out:
If/when a custom bootloader is released for the Titan, can I use it to flash a US ROM to my device?
I have to switch carriers to AT&T in order to fully use the Titan (hence my hesitation), but will bringing the phone to AT&T and letting them activate it have a chance of loading US settings onto the phone? I know that will load AT&T app marketplace options, which is why I was curious.
Most importantly, even if none of this can possibly change, will I at all be restricted by UK region restrictions for Zune, Marketplace, etc.? I have a US-based Zune and WLID account, but this is my main concern because of the phone's region.
If anyone can share some insights on this, I'd really appreciate it.
CAVX said:
Hey everyone, sorry if this has cropped up previously but I've searched to no avail and no one from Microsoft has an answer either.
I've got a new HTC Titan sitting here, completely unused. I won it at the Windows Phone Inner Circle event in Denver weeks before the device's US launch, but I still haven't switched over. This is because the device is a UK phone. The phone does not appear to have any US settings at all, is unlocked, and even comes with a UK plug instead of a US one. Presumably, this is because I won the device before the US version was ready for release.
The issue is that even when I switch my region settings over to "English (US)", nothing actually changes on the phone when it restarts...everything is still English (UK). For example, "synchronising", "favourites", "colour", etc. At first I thought that this wasn't a big deal, but it might be if other region settings persist. So I have three related questions that I'd love to find out:
If/when a custom bootloader is released for the Titan, can I use it to flash a US ROM to my device?
I have to switch carriers to AT&T in order to fully use the Titan (hence my hesitation), but will bringing the phone to AT&T and letting them activate it have a chance of loading US settings onto the phone? I know that will load AT&T app marketplace options, which is why I was curious.
Most importantly, even if none of this can possibly change, will I at all be restricted by UK region restrictions for Zune, Marketplace, etc.? I have a US-based Zune and WLID account, but this is my main concern because of the phone's region.
If anyone can share some insights on this, I'd really appreciate it.
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1. US ROM must be considered. Because the AT&T version Does use the different Chips for different Radio version. It might get the phone bricked. The Goldcard tecnique is not available on Titan, so Official AT&T Rom to flash on the phone is nearly impossible. It need to be done by 3rd party.
2. No. Your Live ID will determine which content you can access. Don't ask why people at Asia can still submit and buys apps that are for US only.
3. The region of the phone could be changed, but not the agent inside. So, don't be surprise that you have the English voice comeout from Tellme and Turn-by-Turn navigation from Bing maps doesn't work at US. You can change, the Region Format, System Locale and Browser &Search Language to English (United States) but it can't change the fact, that this phone is built for Europe user. I will ask HTC if they can bring the custom language pack (if possible) to Windows Phone. I am still talking to HTC Tech Support about this.
I contacted HTC Support several times and they didn't give me any solution (apart from doing a deadly mistake of telling me to search the Android Market for an application :S)!!
I'm still hoping we find a different ROM to flash. Is there an Australian version maybe floating around? I'm dying to use voice navigation and Tellme (which doesn't understand anything when set to English UK).
Thanks for the replies...starting to think maybe I should just sell the thing and use the money to buy a US Titan - especially due to the points about navigation and TellMe. Of course, I'd probably want to sell it to someone in the UK so no one else has region problems. Maybe I'll start looking into that.
In the meantime, if any encouraging news pops up about this, let me know
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...starting to think maybe I should just sell the thing)
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How much do you want?
Hello everyone,
I've been an android user for a year and a half now, but after getting a grip of a WP device I am surely making the switch, and the Titan has caught my eyes from the first sight!
I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice regarding where to get the phone from and what version should I get?
I live in the Middle-East and the phone is currently unavailable here but I want to get it from the internet, there are many versions of the Titan and I am not quite sure which one should I buy!
Here are the options I got and I don't know which one I should go with:
1- The AT&T version: I've read that the AT&T version had some problems regarding voice quality but its the cheapest among them all (around 500$ and I need to unlock it of course).
2- The international version -don't know what's it called really- factory unlocked on amazon for 675$.
3- The UK version on ebay for 600$, factory unlocked.
Considering the fact that I am kinda a noob regarding these stuff, I would like to hear your suggestions, what difference is there between all these three and what should I get for someone living on the other side of the world, also would like to know what the UK version differs from the others.
and is there a chance that the phone won't work with my carrier, what info should I ask them for and check before buying the device ?
thanks a lot for your time, any help is much appreciated
ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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I see, so that is a disadvantage for the AT&T version.
Umm, ok what about the UK version, what's wrong with it more like what is the difference between it and the international one?
ROCOAFZ said:
ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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had an iclone user pick mine up the other day and pretend it was a riot shield. "it's just sooooo big!" wait until the iclone 5 has a bigger screen, suddenly this form factor will become "magical." &^%$ers!
The AT&T one will *never* tether on any network other than AT&T. Not sure about the UK one.
You might want to investigate whether the int'l unlocked one can.
If it were me I'd get the int'l unlocked one, *unless* I specifically needed a UMTS band that that one does not offer.
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The AT&T one will *never* tether on any network other than AT&T. Not sure about the UK one.
You might want to investigate whether the int'l unlocked one can.
If it were me I'd get the int'l unlocked one, *unless* I specifically needed a UMTS band that that one does not offer.
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UK unlocked here - tethers with everything!
drupad2drupad said:
UK unlocked here - tethers with everything!
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since you own the UK version, may I ask you what differ is there between it and the international version ? (the UK version is cheaper by 75$) but I don't know if it'll work as I live in the middle-east and I don't know what to ask my carrier for to know?
thanks
I am not entirely sure about international version. But I think it probably not much difference hardware wise for sure. Since certain features of OS are limited to certain countries ir might be the case. E.g. Bing features, tell me services etc. It might be helpful if I say that even in UK version the radio is set to International.
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drupad2drupad said:
I am not entirely sure about international version. But I think it probably not much difference hardware wise for sure. Since certain features of OS are limited to certain countries ir might be the case. E.g. Bing features, tell me services etc. It might be helpful if I say that even in UK version the radio is set to International.
Sent from my TITAN X310e using Board Express
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ok that's great to know, features like Tell Me and others aren't that important to me and honestly it'll help me get a British accent, hehe
but the most important thing that there isn't any big changes, stuff like the market won't work or these kind of things, right?
thanks for your help
black_falcon90 said:
ok that's great to know, features like Tell Me and others aren't that important to me and honestly it'll help me get a British accent, hehe
but the most important thing that there isn't any big changes, stuff like the market won't work or these kind of things, right?
thanks for your help
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Do a search though. In some countries Market won't have certain apps. The market ideally should work in all countries but some have lesser apps than others e.g. we don't have the Netflix app in the UK. Check out what Market looks like for your specific country. Unlikely you will have all the apps. It's more to do with MS sorting out the legalities etc for each country gradually..
iFan has their own bias, so i won't talk about it here.
AT&T Version always slow in the Update since AT&T have to test it and do whatever they want to the update before it can be published.
I have the X310e version from UK, unlocked and totally happy with it.
And with the international version, you have the "HTC" agent color, which is removed on the AT&T Titan.
Strike_Eagle said:
iFan has their own bias, so i won't talk about it here.
AT&T Version always slow in the Update since AT&T have to test it and do whatever they want to the update before it can be published.
I have the X310e version from UK, unlocked and totally happy with it.
And with the international version, you have the "HTC" agent color, which is removed on the AT&T Titan.
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HTC agent colour is also present in the UK version. So does this mean only the ATT doesn't have it? or is UK and international one the same thing?
The Apps in the market will be dependent on the Country given in your Live-Account. This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
So those things will most likely have to be sorted out firt. The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants which makes it usable on pretty much any UMTS Network worldwide with only a few exceptions. The exact supported bands can be seen on the HTC Titans product page on htc.com
The UK version as far as I know is hardwarewise exactly the same as the international one, only difference might be in what UI languages are available (all keyboard languages are present since the Mango Update anyway although Middle-Eastern-Language support is currently expected to arrive with the Tango-Update - meaning it's not available yet).
Hope this helps and provides you with a rough idea of what troubles can arise.
StevieBallz said:
The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants
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The USA version is 850/1900/2100.
The UK version is 850/900/2100. The international version is probably the same as that one, but not sure.
The OP probably only needs 2100, so any of them will probably be just fine.
Now if we could only get a variant with AWS...
drupad2drupad said:
HTC agent colour is also present in the UK version. So does this mean only the ATT doesn't have it? or is UK and international one the same thing?
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AT&T has a choice what to do with the ROM for their Phone. and they choose to remove the Agent Color HTC. I have heard it from multiple sources.
All others versions has the HTC Agent color.
StevieBallz said:
The Apps in the market will be dependent on the Country given in your Live-Account. This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
So those things will most likely have to be sorted out firt. The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants which makes it usable on pretty much any UMTS Network worldwide with only a few exceptions. The exact supported bands can be seen on the HTC Titans product page on htc.com
The UK version as far as I know is hardwarewise exactly the same as the international one, only difference might be in what UI languages are available (all keyboard languages are present since the Mango Update anyway although Middle-Eastern-Language support is currently expected to arrive with the Tango-Update - meaning it's not available yet).
Hope this helps and provides you with a rough idea of what troubles can arise.
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okay , let's say I get the UK unlocked version and use it in my country "Jordan" , I don't know where I read it , but as it seems every phone is region locked , and if I get a UK phone for instance I won't be able to get an update to my language for example (which is Arabic) .. is that correct ?
I don't know, its safer to get the international version even tho it's a 100 bucks more expensive , but I thought about asking you guys cause I don't know a lot about these stuff.
Thanks
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This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
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I changed the country my live account was associated with. It's a bit hard but you can do it. There is a how-to online if you search for it.
Posting specifically in the MTATRIX4G forum (probably could have got away with the general forum)...
Looking to unlock my Motorola Atrix 4G to work on all networks. Couldn't find a guide....
There are guides everywhere. It seems you fail at basic searching.
Call AT&T and ask for code, or buy the code online.
Why would I call AT&T? Not everyone in the world lives in United States of....Something (to be blunt my carrier is Orange in UK, look it up on a map - unless AT&T are so generous that they would accept my IMEI, even though i'm not with AT&T?? That would be generous of them)
Let me rephrase - plenty of people selling unlock codes and plenty of dodgy software where you need to fill out some weird survery (never going to do that as it's always a con).
So point taken, let's rephrase again - Can someone help me find open source software to unlock the Motorola Atrix 4G?
Atrix 4G is only available on AT&T. Elsewhere in the world it is called Atrix, not Atrix 4G. Since you keep mentioning Atrix 4G, I naturally assumed you're on AT&T. No need to get rude, next time try being more precise instead.
In that case, you'll have to buy the code online. A way to unlock "at home" does not exist. I have no recommendations for a good unlocking site, wait for someone else to chime in.
Good point, will take it onboard. I had suspected buying an unlock code (which I don't mind per say as it's going on ebay anyway and adds to the value). Unless someone else has a plausable trusthworth site i'll bid thee farewell.
Widodude said:
Good point, will take it onboard. I had suspected buying an unlock code (which I don't mind per say as it's going on ebay anyway and adds to the value). Unless someone else has a plausable trusthworth site i'll bid thee farewell.
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I think you lost that auction.
Get unlock multiple try
It also depend on the Radio.
I have the ATT unclock code for my phone but everytime I try it show unsuccessful. I have to flash my back to original ATT radio and try and now my network it unlocked. It depend your service provider, just fash the correct radio and get the code online should working fine.
AndroidDevGru said:
I think you lost that auction.
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What I meant was, i sold my old HTC Touch HD and got an additional 20% on the price as opposed to locked to Orange. People just prefer an unlocked device to buy. Simples really.
Asianhood said:
It also depend on the Radio.
I have the ATT unclock code for my phone but everytime I try it show unsuccessful. I have to flash my back to original ATT radio and try and now my network it unlocked. It depend your service provider, just fash the correct radio and get the code online should working fine.
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Yup, plenty of choices online, range from 8 quid to 20, i'll just use the one I used last time (althought this time I got greedy and looked for a free option )
Weird ATT provide it for free, Orange in the UK charge a flat rate of about 23 quid (and only if you're in contract with them)
Asianhood said:
It also depend on the Radio.
I have the ATT unclock code for my phone but everytime I try it show unsuccessful. I have to flash my back to original ATT radio and try and now my network it unlocked. It depend your service provider, just fash the correct radio and get the code online should working fine.
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Another thing to keep in mind is that some of us could not unlock with any AT&T radio at all. On my phone, I had to flash the Bell Canada radio before AT&T's unlock code would work. Of course, I flashed back to AT&T's radios and the phone remained unlocked. Just something to keep in mind.
Hi all, I have one hour to decide whether to buy One or not, but t-mobile locked version only. I need to know what's the latest version that t-mobile One has, 1.26? 1.27?
thanks
Neo-ST said:
Hi all, I have one hour to decide whether to buy One or not, but t-mobile locked version only. I need to know what's the latest version that t-mobile One has, 1.26? 1.27?
thanks
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In the US, 1.27, afaik. That's what's on mine. I don't think anyone in the US has 1.29, though that's what's now available in some parts of the world.
Thanks. So, you believe 1.29 could come soon on worldwide T-Mobile One too?
Neo-ST said:
Thanks. So, you believe 1.29 could come soon on worldwide T-Mobile One too?
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1.29 is currently available in some countries. There are links here, or at least in the vanilla HTC One forum for RUUs available for 1.29 now, though what their compatibility is with the T-Mobile version of the phone is, I'm not sure.
Coming at it from a different angle, custom ROMs for the One can have Android 4.2.2 right now, but that means giving up Sense, if that matters to you.
I wouldn't want to root it right now, thanks for the info.
Of course I have to be out of luck.
At 8PM I entered T-mobile and asked a lady if they have HTC One, she said "Yes we do, LTE version.", I said "great", of course. Since they work till 9PM, I wanted to ask the above mentioned question here, before deciding whether to buy it or not.
Finally, about 8:45PM I decide to buy it. Headed straight to T-mobile again, said I wanted to renew my subscription and buy the HTC One. She brings me HTC One SV. After a few attempts to explain her the difference, she said "ahhh, that One! We don't have it, it didn't arrive yet and we don't know when will we get it!".
Turned around and headed home.
Good work HTC
Greetings all,
I've been scouring the net trying to figure this out and all roads keep pointing back here.
I purchased an x10 mini off eBay for a good price and upon receiving it, every time I boot it up it is set to Portuguese language and has me select a language. There is also no sim card in the phone.
While I can select English, this is a rather annoying side effect. What are my options to correct this and get it to default back to English?
Will rooting/installing a new rom correct this? Do I need to buy a sim card for the U.S., can I unlock it through software? I see something called fastgsm that allows you to unlock the phone but since that's just a piece of software, I'm inclined to believe it can be done without paying an extra 25$
Any direction would be immensely appreciated!
zroe01 said:
Greetings all,
I've been scouring the net trying to figure this out and all roads keep pointing back here.
I purchased an x10 mini off eBay for a good price and upon receiving it, every time I boot it up it is set to Portuguese language and has me select a language. There is also no sim card in the phone.
While I can select English, this is a rather annoying side effect. What are my options to correct this and get it to default back to English?
Will rooting/installing a new rom correct this? Do I need to buy a sim card for the U.S., can I unlock it through software? I see something called fastgsm that allows you to unlock the phone but since that's just a piece of software, I'm inclined to believe it can be done without paying an extra 25$
Any direction would be immensely appreciated!
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If your phone doesn't have a SIM it has no idea where it is. Put in a sim-card (take one from another phone if you don't have one available at the moment) and see what it does.
It can not be locked to a country, although it can be locked to a specific provider. Having said that, there are two versions for different global regions, where they use different frequencies for 3G. The most common type is the E10i which will work in Europe, North America and some other regions, and the E10a which is built for mainly South America I think.
But anyway: Put in a SIM and see what it does.
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If your phone doesn't have a SIM it has no idea where it is. Put in a sim-card (take one from another phone if you don't have one available at the moment) and see what it does.
It can not be locked to a country, although it can be locked to a specific provider. Having said that, there are two versions for different global regions, where they use different frequencies for 3G. The most common type is the E10i which will work in Europe, North America and some other regions, and the E10a which is built for mainly South America I think.
But anyway: Put in a SIM and see what it does.
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That makes a lot of sense. I don't have one on hand so I'll purchase one and give it a whirl then. I'm not even looking to use this as an actual phone, just a large mini mp3/video player.
For reference sake, this is the e10i.
Thank you!
zroe01 said:
That makes a lot of sense. I don't have one on hand so I'll purchase one and give it a whirl then. I'm not even looking to use this as an actual phone, just a large mini mp3/video player.
For reference sake, this is the e10i.
Thank you!
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Are there other settings it tends to forget when turn off your phone? Like maybe changing the theme or something like that? That might point to a little difficulty in writing the internal memory.
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Are there other settings it tends to forget when turn off your phone? Like maybe changing the theme or something like that? That might point to a little difficulty in writing the internal memory.
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Things were staying set other than the language being prompted at bootup every time. I grabbed a random US sim card, the cheapest one was a 4$ at&t gophone card. Once I put that in it ran a default setup and everything has been fixed since then.
Thanks a lot for the direction!