Hey all,
I have been away for a while using a deodexed stock latest update rom for a while just fine. I continue to use Sense because of the camera app. When I was here last, the camera kind of sucked on custom roms, so I felt like to keep the camera to its best I needed to stay with the stock ROM.
What do you guys think of this? Is it ok to switch to a Jellybean 4.1 ROM or 4.2 when that inevitably gets ported too? Does the camera still record 1080p, and does the camera use the image co-processor for instant burst mode?
The camera is one of the main focus points on this phone for me, and the Sense ROM camera experience has been really good.
The last time I heard was that people say the sense camera is being ported through cm10 though I have yet to see any evidence of it working.
HTC didn't release the driver for the image chip which is responsible for post processing, auto focus, flash level, and noise reduction, white balance, etc...
I heard that porting it is virtually impossible because those stuff are propriety of htc.
The camera on port works, though using the camera would drain your battery life as everything is done on soc instead of the dedicated chip. You would also lose the continuous auto focus and all the pre programmed optimization which would result in worse image especially in low light.
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Using CM10 + the 4.2 Camera = :victory:
It's wonderful, I haven't had any issues like the stock Sense camera has.
Nice, I thought the sense camera wouldn't work without the sense framework... any info on this trickery?
AnonSVN said:
Using CM10 + the 4.2 Camera = :victory:
It's wonderful, I haven't had any issues like the stock Sense camera has.
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So true. The 4.2 camera is really nice. The images are quality and the camera itself is functional. There's a zip file out there that you can flash. It's named 4.2Camera_EVO.zip.
docblue said:
So true. The 4.2 camera is really nice. The images are quality and the camera itself is functional. There's a zip file out there that you can flash. It's named 4.2Camera_EVO.zip.
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Only issue that I found on the CM 10 4.2 camera is when using the video camcorder I cannot get the FPS past 21. Normal operation for video is 29. Shooting video at 21FPS makes things jumpy..
For taking pictures the 4.2 is passable. VIdeo not so much..
That is why I am also stuck in the Sense World ...
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Hey Guys!
I've tried my best searching the web and xda before making this thread but I really want some opinions here. I've been switching between MIUI and Simple&Clean. I've read stock TW Cam is better quality than MIUI and I felt that too when I was using MIUI.
Funny thing is though, the camera hardware remains the same doesn't it?
So my big question is, if I run MIUI (which supposedly has bad camera quality) and download a good camera app, say ZOOM FX, it should technically work as well as a stock rom's TW camera right? (since it's the same hardware)
Sorry if I'm confusing but I really find this problem weird!
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Hey Guys!
I've tried my best searching the web and xda before making this thread but I really want some opinions here. I've been switching between MIUI and Simple&Clean. I've read stock TW Cam is better quality than MIUI and I felt that too when I was using MIUI.
Funny thing is though, the camera hardware remains the same doesn't it?
So my big question is, if I run MIUI (which supposedly has bad camera quality) and download a good camera app, say ZOOM FX, it should technically work as well as a stock rom's TW camera right? (since it's the same hardware)
Sorry if I'm confusing but I really find this problem weird!
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MIUI still doesn't implement good drivers for correct video playback! hence, video stutters...normally 1080p video stutter...! and MIUI camera is also good!
You do mean the still Photo camera and not video right?
I see, but is it the same reason for camera photo quality? That the drivers aren't implemented properly too?
So if the drivers for the camera isn't as good, technically if I'm on MIUI Rom and install Camera Zoom Fx, the quality would still be bad right?
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You do mean the still Photo camera and not video right?
I see, but is it the same reason for camera photo quality? That the drivers aren't implemented properly too?
So if the drivers for the camera isn't as good, technically if I'm on MIUI Rom and install Camera Zoom Fx, the quality would still be bad right?
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People, I also, go for 3rd party camera apps, they do work good!
Like lgcamera...but i don't really compare the miui camera with stock one! i suffer from placebos
Damn haha, you're exactly like me, I buy a third party app or get influenced by MIUI's camera and think it's not that bad.
Hopefully others can give a more accurate opinion
I've played with several roms, shiftsense, liquidsense (several versions)..
Most of these roms all have different cameras. I'm curious if its possible to install "just the camera app" and have particular versions.
I'm looking for the one that allows you to make panoramic shots, built in. I know there are apps in the market that do this, but they suck in comparison to the one thats come with different versions of roms, built in.
I'm currently running liquid smooth v3.2, its got what appears to be the camera from android 1.0, from 5 years ago.
Skyraider 1.3 has panorama built in and coming from liquid myself I have to say that the change isn't so bad. Deep customization is still there and battery life on Imo's 5.1.0 is amazing.
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its got what appears to be the camera from android 1.0, from 5 years ago.
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Android didn't exist 5 years ago. The first commercially available phone to run Android was the HTC Dream (AKA G1), released on 22 October 2008.
Android was around before the G1 technically...but that's another story. Anyway, I use the MIUI camera on my Thunderolt running CM7, with the stock camera as a backup since the particular MIUI camera I have installed doesn't support the front camera. The only problem is if you use both cameras, after switching back your pictures will look screwed up when taken, though they look normal when you actually view them later. I should update mine now that I think about it...
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Android was around before the G1 technically...but that's another story. Anyway, I use the MIUI camera on my Thunderolt running CM7, with the stock camera as a backup since the particular MIUI camera I have installed doesn't support the front camera. The only problem is if you use both cameras, after switching back your pictures will look screwed up when taken, though they look normal when you actually view them later. I should update mine now that I think about it...
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you mean that weird color in miui cam? Try setting resolution to 8mp
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This might be a terrible question but is it at all possible to install a sense based camera on an aosp rom? I love aosp but hate the camera with a passion.
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No, you need to have Sense to use a Sense camera. Kind of sucks, the Sense camera is *****in'.
Anyone have the proper ICS camera apk? I tired a few(AOSP Rezound port and CM9 to name a few), but none of the were working right. I was able to get one to work right, and it worked pretty fast, but images were limited to 2mp, and none of white balance features were working correctly. Thanks.
Anyone, please?
It's stuck @ 3mp at the moment, not sure if anyone is trying to fix that or not. The HTC camera software is pretty much just as fast if you turn off the preview. ICS software is still a bit quicker when the flash is on, otherwise they're virtually the same in speed.
Why is the ICS camera limited at 3MP currently?
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Why is the ICS camera limited at 3MP currently?
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That is how it works when it is built from AOSP source. You need to add proprietary HTC stuff to get the full quality. That is how it was explained that Oxygen (pure AOSP) had low megapixels on the HTC desire vs. CM7 that was high quality. The guy making it wanted pure aosp, so he would never add the htc camera stuff that was needed for better pictures.
Ok so a couple of things.
I noticed any camera app on a TW rom has what I would describe as graining, I can see pixels constantly changing colour akin to watching a analolue tv signal. If I take photos this affects the photo also. It affects how clear the photo is, I have a photo of an object on my desk eg. that looks brilliant taken whilst was on AOKP. Will try to attach the photos to this post. On the camera on the AOKP rom, this graining is gone, its vanished. (shame the camera app is unstable). Taking a photo of the same object using any camera app on a TW rom has a much less satisfying result. It would seem whatever that driver is thats used on AOSP roms it does offer better quality. Or is it a setting that causes the graining?
Also a few times when usng the camera, it just closes itself, if I am right this is a rom problem? what would cause that behaviour usually? The closing itself only is happening since I switched back to neatrom, so may end up posting this 2nd question in the neatrom thread.
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I took a photo at lower res (as was too big) and then accidently seen all the graining was gone and picture clear again.
so it seems lowering the resolution of the photo does wonders.
so its related to higher pixel count and it appears, obviously one might say the lower resolution hides the problem, possibly. so eg. zooming on on a my 0.8mp 1024x768 picture so its same screen size as the 8mp pic has much higher detail.
I will if time restore my aokp nandroid and test 8pm photos again if I can.
I attached 2 pics, the usb_back is 8mp other is 0.9mp.
I've never seen what you refer to. Generally the tw camera is better quality because samsung didn't release their camera HAL source so its quality can't be reproduced
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I put AOKP back on for more testing, showed some freinds and they picked out all AOKP pics as clearly better, extra options in the app (jpeg quality and more focus options as well as special affects) and the quality is simply better full stop.
the TW cam got ported for AOSP anyway.
so just flash the TW cam and u got the same quality. (theme / addons section in this forum)
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the quality is simply better full stop.
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This is on your device. Maybe you have a problem with your camera when on touchwiz.
Notor1ouS- said:
the TW cam got ported for AOSP anyway.
so just flash the TW cam and u got the same quality. (theme / addons section in this forum)
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where is it? and i want aosp on tw not other way round the tw camera gui is aweful so even if quality fixed i wouldnt like using it.
i brought a professional camera app which a few on here reccomended, great improvement over tW interface but imo not as good as AOSP interface and it closes by itself a lot. It also doesnt fix the quality issue and when I run the app on AOSP the quality is fixed so the quality seems related to the samsung camera driver not app.
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This is on your device. Maybe you have a problem with your camera when on touchwiz.
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well I will try a diff TW rom, maybe even restore the rom that shipped with the phone to see if its a rom issue.
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well I will try a diff TW rom, maybe even restore the rom that shipped with the phone to see if its a rom issue.
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Could even be camera firmware/driver issue.
my opinion , both are same
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Could even be camera firmware/driver issue.
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since they part of the rom/kernel thats why I said I would try different rom.
I will also try a different kernel on same TW rom.
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since they part of the rom/kernel thats why I said I would try different rom.
I will also try a different kernel on same TW rom.
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No, im talking about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34456721
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I will try it next time I got back to TW, still back on AOKP.
Yep. Im happier with aosp roms too
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since I put siyah kernel on the AOKP rom the camera is stable. Might be coincidence but thats the situation at the moment.
well now nothing to fix on the quality.
on the latest 4.1.2 neatrom, the camera quality is good so was an issue with md4 build I guess.
Hi i have on my S4 mini 9195 the CyanogenMod 12.1.
I am looking for the best camera that allows you to take pictures in high resolution and full screen.
Thanks in advance :good:
I assume you mean best camera application, try camera 360 ultimate
Im been using Camera ZOOM Fx for years and still find it a great camera app on my S4 mini.
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Im been using Camera ZOOM Fx for years and still find it a great camera app on my S4 mini.
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Using it as well and I am happy with it
Try: Focus or Cyanogenmod camera app, they're pretty similar but I prefer CMcamera.
Open camera is the best by far.
i really like the stock camera. And bec of it i am coming back to stock rom from cm12.1, i really like cm12.1 Rom. i am sometime go for it but come back to stock rom because of camera. Tried alots of cameras some are mentioned here. Which are good but i kinda of not satisfied with them . i wish sometime in future Stock camera come to cm.
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i really like the stock camera. And bec of it i am coming back to stock rom from cm12.1, i really like cm12.1 Rom. i am sometime go for it but come back to stock rom because of camera. Tried alots of cameras some are mentioned here. Which are good but i kinda of not satisfied with them . i wish sometime in future Stock camera come to cm.
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Will never happen. As source for this has never been released by Samsung. Has been this way for ALL custom ROMs since ever. The camera is the main reason I keep going back to stock. Focus is horrible on pretty much all custom ROMs. But because of major security flaws in stock OS I'll be switching back to CM.
Maybe auto focus is terrible but manual is damn good for macros. I used to make macros of smartphone motherboards, mostly after water damage to show clients that they phones wasn't stop working just by themselves. I can tell You on stock pictures from my phone was a lot worse than my coworker iPhone 5 and now they are a lot sharper and brighter than on his iPhone. I never tested outside photos on CM but I think it's only matter to feel manual focus.
Snap on CM11
Also using 12.1 on s4 mini, I've tried all cameras but have settled on Snap Camera HDR. Focuses fast and accurately, and doesn't lag. Also works well in lower light.
I just came back from CM 12.1 to CM11 in my S4 Mini Duos and switched to snap Camera HDR. Far better than built in CM11 camera app. The only thing I miss is the capturing with on/off button...
I use A Better Camera
Google Camera is pretty fast.
I've settled on A Better Camera (running on CM12.1) as I like layout etc., admittedly auto focus is not as good as CM app in some lighting conditions but a quick tap on the screen and it will focus perfectly.
Try the Ucamera application.
It is very good and it has many effects. It s available on play store
Google Camera is a pretty good choice.
It is not so simple. You can not have the same quality stock cam because any cam app is working with generic drivers in CMs or any other ROM CM based . For the same reason , the audio (mostly capture) also will never have the same quality.
It is a price to pay: Camera and audio quality worse.
Some apps can even do a good job, but difficult to achieve equal quality.
Until the other day I used CM13 and even liked, but needed quality to scan a document on an emergency. I had to restore Stock Backup. I lost the desire to again change the ROM and stayed in Stock. Unfortunately it is a reality.
Some apps can even do a good job, but difficult to achieve equal quality.
One consolation is to use some Xposed Modules and other tools that make Stock ROM ... Less outdated, I would say.
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It is not so simple. You can not have the same quality stock cam because any cam app is working with generic drivers in CMs or any other ROM CM based . For the same reason , the audio (mostly capture) also will never have the same quality.
It is a price to pay: Camera and audio quality worse.
Some apps can even do a good job, but difficult to achieve equal quality.
Until the other day I used CM13 and even liked, but needed quality to scan a document on an emergency. I had to restore Stock Backup. I lost the desire to again change the ROM and stayed in Stock. Unfortunately it is a reality.
Some apps can even do a good job, but difficult to achieve equal quality.
One consolation is to use some Xposed Modules and other tools that make Stock ROM ... Less outdated, I would say.
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very true. most of the time i go back to stock jelly bean. No kitkat update for i9190
I have Camera Next, CM12.1. My favorite camera app. But it works fine in CM13?