I have unlimited data for a non-smartphone. I'm using an international version of the Razr Max and at&t doesn't recognize it. I just went to a store and the rep said I would be forced to a tiered plan if I buy from them. Can I get an unlocked international version and keep my data?
Notyours said:
I have unlimited data for a non-smartphone. I'm using an international version of the Razr Max and at&t doesn't recognize it. I just went to a store and the rep said I would be forced to a tiered plan if I buy from them. Can I get an unlocked international version and keep my data?
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What do you mean "it doesn't recognize it"? does it work for making calls? do you have an AT&T sim card?
FxBeast said:
What do you mean "it doesn't recognize it"? does it work for making calls? do you have an AT&T sim card?
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I mean that at&t doesn't know what kind of phone I'm using so they are not forcing me to a tiered data plan. Yes I can make calls, send texts, and most importantly, use unlimited data.
If I buy an at&t branded phone, they will know it's a smartphone, and change my data plan. I'm asking if I use an international lumia (like a rogers) will at&t know it's a lumia?
You can, but it will likely be recognised by their system, and you also may not get LTE or even 3G depending on from where you purchase.
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For anyone using this phone on AT&T, can you tell me how AT&T recognizes the phone? Are you required to get the expensive capped data plans (does AT&T recognize it as a smartphone) or can you use the cheap dumbphone data plan (like I do with Bell Galaxy S and Milestone in my sig)
Answer would be appreciated
NOBODY using this phone on AT&T?
Honestly I'd like to know as well, as I am interested in getting one but currently it seems there's no dev scene for it. Which is disappointing since it can be bought right from Dell and works on ATT bands and Tmobile. (that is what's kept me from getting one.)
I would guess however, that it will work fine as AT&T doesn't have this phone on contract and therefore has no need for the IMEI numbers. But as always, I guess we won't know till someone takes the chance.
I have one on ATT, works just fine. I have the unlimited smartphone plan, but I'm sure you could use it with the dumbphone plans, since the IMEI isn't recognized with ATT
Funk2641 said:
I have one on ATT, works just fine. I have the unlimited smartphone plan, but I'm sure you could use it with the dumbphone plans, since the IMEI isn't recognized with ATT
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how does it show up in your account online? Any picture or name?
I'm still a bit wary beacuse I know the Dell Streak was recognized by AT&T and required the pricey plans so I want to know if that will happen with the Venue
Like the previous poster said, disappointed there's not more dev, the Venue has nice, proven hardware and great frequencies to utilize.
I would love to know too. Since I heard rumors that Dell gave ATT all their imei numbers.
I need a smartphone without a data plan.
I have had the Venue on ATT for about a week, i just used the SIM that came out of my Tilt 2. My online ATT acct doesnt show a pic or say what phone i have. Its the same it has been when i used my HD2 and HD7. But i have a smartphone plan so im not sure this is any help.
I just got one of these and got the unlock code for it. When I put in my AT&T SIM and set up the APN I only show EDGE data network and not 3G. Further the bands on the box show the AT&T 3G bands!?!?! I have an unlimitted Smartphone data plan.
Those of you who say "It works fine" Do you not have data? If you do are you getting 3G?!? If so are you in a major market?
Finally, do you have a newer AT&T 3G sim card or maybe an older one from cingular or something?
Thanks!
I think you have the wrong phone.
This phone comes only in the unlocked version. No unlock code needed.
i think they recognize phone through the sim card, what i did was find a crappy flip phone, put the sim card in there, sign up for hte $10 data family plan, and then switch back to my cappy....still havent been caught
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Got the Venue. 2 weeks later (today) received email from ATT, they are adding appropriate Smartphone Data Plan. A friend of mine at ATT says this could only happen if ATT gets serial number from Dell.
does anyone know it i can use the moto atrix on a att gophone account?i dont use much data so that is not a problem i just dont want to sign a new 2 year contract until i see the new iphone later this year,thanks
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does anyone know it i can use the moto atrix on a att gophone account?i dont use much data so that is not a problem i just dont want to sign a new 2 year contract until i see the new iphone later this year,thanks
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like prepaid? im pretty sure you can. im using some pay as you go plan with tmo
Officially it's not allowed, but if you buy the atrix outright and put your sim card in, it will work. Data is another issue, because pay-per-use data isn't allowed with smartphones on prepaid accounts. If you sign up for a plan using another phone (imei), you can put the sim in your atrix and use it without data (wifi will work fine). There are smartphone data plans, but again, the atrix isn't one of the permitted phones so you will have to use another phone to sign up, and hspa+ definitely will not work.
In other words, if you get the account set up with another smartphone, it should work. If you add a data feature, the 3G should also work, but don't hold me accountable
zoso28 said:
Officially it's not allowed, but if you buy the atrix outright and put your sim card in, it will work. Data is another issue, because pay-per-use data isn't allowed with smartphones on prepaid accounts. If you sign up for a plan using another phone (imei), you can put the sim in your atrix and use it without data (wifi will work fine). There are smartphone data plans, but again, the atrix isn't one of the permitted phones so you will have to use another phone to sign up, and hspa+ definitely will not work.
In other words, if you get the account set up with another smartphone, it should work. If you add a data feature, the 3G should also work, but don't hold me accountable
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if they dont know you have it, you're safe. ive had this same prepaid tmobile SIM since the G1 lol..
Hello everybody, recently AT&T released a new pay as you go plan which is 50$ a month for unlimited everything. Unfortunately the unlimited data does not work on smartphones which is disappointing.
I recently switched to this plan because 50$ a month for unlimited everything is a great deal, what I was wondering was if someone could find a way to allow data to work on this plan\phone.
When you try to use firefox or similar browser it just says the page cannot be displayed, on the facebook android app it gives you a message that tells you data was refused.
I would gladly donate 20$ to anyone who could figure this out, and give me the fix. it seems like something a developer would know how to fix so if anyone has any ideas shoot them at me. If one of them works they will get a nice 20$ donation Thanks.
It sounds like AT&T itself is blocking the data connection.
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Exactly, but it doesn't block the connection if my pay as you go sim card is in a non-smart phone. There must be something that tells at&t you have a smartphone, and maybe there's a way to stop that.
What a rip off, i pay 15 bucks a month for unlimited.data
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Cell service providers such as AT&T have the ability to know what phone you are using through your sim card.
so it'll be hard to find a way around it, but it's not impossible.
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It's because it's an x10a from at&t if so it's the IMEI that gave it away they have a log of all there numbers if you call an be real nice they will give you the unlock code for free (I did it and it was free any one can on at&t) Then flash a Stock rom and then wait a month or so an cancel that sim and go to another store or have your friend start up another sim. A wahoo
So Patricks_book you're saying all I have to do is unlock my phone and data will work on my smartphone even though the 50$ unlimited everything plan doesn't allow smartphones to have unlimited data?
I don't think unlocking the phone changes your phone's IMEI number, if that's what you are wondering.
I used to have a Nokia E72 that covered AT&T's 3G frequency bands but never sold by AT&T. I don't use that any more but when I did, it worked with their $15 unlimited data plan (for a post-paid plan) that can only be used for dumb phones. It seemed then that AT&T didn't recognize the E72's IMEI # as a smartphone.
I don't know if this works on GoPhone plans now.....
SacredUser said:
So Patricks_book you're saying all I have to do is unlock my phone and data will work on my smartphone even though the 50$ unlimited everything plan doesn't allow smartphones to have unlimited data?
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NO But it's worth a try. Unlock it an update to like Wolfs 2.3.3 x10i and if nothing else you'll have a unlocked bad ares phone
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I don't think unlocking the phone changes your phone's IMEI number, if that's what you are wondering.
I used to have a Nokia E72 that covered AT&T's 3G frequency bands but never sold by AT&T. I don't use that any more but when I did, it worked with their $15 unlimited data plan (for a post-paid plan) that can only be used for dumb phones. It seemed then that AT&T didn't recognize the E72's IMEI # as a smartphone.
I don't know if this works on GoPhone plans now.....
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when you sign up though you sign up using a sim, not an imei. so your account is only linked to your sim card.
I have switched phones three times and all I did was pop my sim into a different phone.
I think though that it recognizes you are using 3g or hspa data and that is why it blocks it. Aren't those plans for gsm only?
Its about what APN you connect via. Have a look @ this. Settings > Wireless and networks > Mobile Networks > AT&T and you'll need to configure the apn ... I have no idea which one ... But well , thats all I can help .
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when you sign up though you sign up using a sim, not an imei. so your account is only linked to your sim card.
I have switched phones three times and all I did was pop my sim into a different phone.
I think though that it recognizes you are using 3g or hspa data and that is why it blocks it. Aren't those plans for gsm only?
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Yeah you're right your account is linked only to your SIM card otherwise you won't be able to swap phones. But at least on AT&T they seem to be able to recognize if a smartphone (sold by AT&T) is being used.
A few years ago when AT&T only had a $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones or $15 ulmimited for dumbphones, they started forcing subscribers who use the $15 plan for smartphones switch to correct data plans. Many AT&Ters discussed this issue then and the only conclusion drawn based on their experience was that it was through their IMEI #.
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Yeah you're right your account is linked only to your SIM card otherwise you won't be able to swap phones. But at least on AT&T they seem to be able to recognize if a smartphone (sold by AT&T) is being used.
A few years ago when AT&T only had a $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones or $15 ulmimited for dumbphones, they started forcing subscribers who use the $15 plan for smartphones switch to correct data plans. Many AT&Ters discussed this issue then and the only conclusion drawn based on their experience was that it was through their IMEI #.
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hmmm but if you never gave them your imei they would have no way of knowing...
I would say it has to do with either your apn, the bands you're using (and the fact that you're using 3g/hspa), or just they can recognize the pure volume of data you are using.
They have ALL the IMEIs for the phone from the manufactures and from the ones that are or where on their network and when you use your phone it comes up in their system like if you call in to support and they ask for it there just checking to see if it's the right one. So you can try an app like Privacy Blocker to change your IMEI I do not know if it will work but it is an option in the app ( not on the phone just on out going signals for apps ?) An if it does work PLEASE post it in the forum.
Good luck to us all if it does .
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They have ALL the IMEIs for the phone from the manufactures and from the ones that are or where on their network and when you use your phone it comes up in their system like if you call in to support and they ask for it there just checking to see if it's the right one. So you can try an app like Privacy Blocker to change your IMEI I do not know if it will work but it is an option in the app ( not on the phone just on out going signals for apps ?) An if it does work PLEASE post it in the forum.
Good luck to us all if it does .
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That's not correct at all....
the imei does not pop up, I worked for a phone company before.
Unless you sign up with a phone and have given it to them, they do not have your imei...
If the phone was first purchased from AT&T then they have the IMEI. Or just like when an app has access to your account it can read your IMEI your sim card can read your IMEIs it's connected too your phone number contract/pay as you go. Anyone of them even Wally world (Walmart) who ever you get a sim card from can read your sim card/IMEI.
SacredUser said:
So Patricks_book you're saying all I have to do is unlock my phone and data will work on my smartphone even though the 50$ unlimited everything plan doesn't allow smartphones to have unlimited data?
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Its a bullsh!t plan. I got this plan, got data to work just fine, but had alot of trouble with it. ie- Market apps, took FOREVER to download.. That was the first downfall. Yesterday morning, I noticed my phone was in Edge mode. I proceeded to reset it, change the Network options in the debug menu, and play with the APN. This morning.. Still Edge. My conclusion? They obviously shut off my 3G. Now, The problem I have with this, is that I havnt used over 100 mb of data yet, and it hasnt even been a week since I got this service. Stay away from this plan.. GARBAGE. Now, as much as I loathe paying an EXTRA 20 bucks a month, Im taking the dive and goin with TMobile. I need my 3g....
I just kind of skimmed over this post (new here) and this alone made me sign up cause I just order X10 recently.
I have this question though; if is not IMEI# that at&t block you with, then is it possible a reflashing could fix it? I have heard of people use different firmware versions; like my old phone, Ericsson K850i there was just plain K850 version (no 'i') that could get 3G I think.
But assume I install new Sony 2.3.3 Android on my X10, would be the key to get around at&t unnoticed ja?
I too have unlimite 50usd plan and tried to use on HTC Aria that was brand with at&t junk. That did not work But I have not try to root it (updated to 2.2 already ) so I not know if reflash would have fix it or not.
Hey guys, I was thinking about getting an Aria for my girlfriend. I have a few questions before I purchase one though:
1. I heard you could unlock it by talking to AT&T, but just in case, can anyone point me to a cheap/reputable place to get it unlocked online? Thanks
2. Is it easy to permanently disable Cellular Network data? She would be using it with no data plan, so we wouldnt want any data to get through.
roltzje said:
Hey guys, I was thinking about getting an Aria for my girlfriend. I have a few questions before I purchase one though:
1. I heard you could unlock it by talking to AT&T, but just in case, can anyone point me to a cheap/reputable place to get it unlocked online? Thanks
2. Is it easy to permanently disable Cellular Network data? She would be using it with no data plan, so we wouldnt want any data to get through.
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If you get the phone unlocked, it should work fine on any GSM network.
As far as data is concerned, I know that AT&T will detect your phone and may apply a smart-phone data plan (even if you don't want or use one).
One way around this is to put the SIM card into a dumb phone and disable the data plan on-line or call ATT to disable it.
Then pop the SIM card back into the Aria and you're in business.
It has worked for me like this for over 5 years of owning smart phones without data plans (which I don't use or need).
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One way around this is to put the SIM card into a dumb phone and disable the data plan on-line or call ATT to disable it.
Then pop the SIM card back into the Aria and you're in business.
It has worked for me like this for over 5 years of owning smart phones without data plans (which I don't use or need).
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This will ONLY work if you have a very old plan with AT&T and you are grandfathered in.
If you switched plans or started your service after AT&T started requiring smartphones to have data plans, you will be automatically switched to a data plan if you put your SIM card into an Aria. There's no way around it.
drumist said:
This will ONLY work if you have a very old plan with AT&T and you are grandfathered in.
If you switched plans or started your service after AT&T started requiring smartphones to have data plans, you will be automatically switched to a data plan if you put your SIM card into an Aria. There's no way around it.
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That's unfortunate. I will definitely keep my "old" plan just to make sure I'm still able to keep the data plan off.
I had, for a month, an unlimited ($15) plan, but since I really didn't see a need, dropped it and opted out. Looking back, I probably should have kept it in case there could be a day when I need a new plan.
When that day comes, I will be switching to a pay-as-you-go plan.
That would allow me to keep my Aria, WiFi, etc. - without subscribing to an unnecessary data plan. The only downside is losing my mobile number...
I'm going to be doing some international travel, and was planning to buy prepaid SIMs there. I understand that GSM should work with the GPE ROM, which I have installed. But I'm worried this will cause my phone to be deactivated from Verizon, and that I might lose unlimited data. I'll be over there for over a month.
lukesed said:
I'm going to be doing some international travel, and was planning to buy prepaid SIMs there. I understand that GSM should work with the GPE ROM, which I have installed. But I'm worried this will cause my phone to be deactivated from Verizon, and that I might lose unlimited data. I'll be over there for over a month.
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As long as you pay your bill.
They don't know if you are traveling or your phone is just off for a month.
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As long as you pay your bill.
They don't know if you are traveling or your phone is just off for a month.
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This is correct. Your Verizon LTE SIM is the only thing that connects to their network. So if you have another SIM in the phone, it should just appear offline to them.