You don't really have to unless you are grandfathered in for unlimited data... VZW shared everything, includes the hotspot feature and you don't have to have 2 devices... I switched my plan to it and I'm actually saving $10+ more a month... Just a thought.. and in case others didn't know
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I'm sure most of us knew that..
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I'm sure most of us knew that..
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Umm, I didn't.
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Thats cool if you did.. if others didn't, I was giving them a heads up... I didn't know it til earlier today. So I wanted to help others out
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I've been considering mentioning it. Because of the spectrum that Verizon bought, they cannot "double dip" into our pockets and are not allowed to charge twice for the same data, thus we're allowed to tether. This does not apply to unlimited because the data you use on unlimited is dictated by usage rather than by purchasing a set amount of data per month.
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I've been considering mentioning it. Because of the spectrum that Verizon bought, they cannot "double dip" into our pockets and are not allowed to charge twice for the same data, thus we're allowed to tether. This does not apply to unlimited because the data you use on unlimited is dictated by usage rather than by purchasing a set amount of data per month.
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That's true, the thing I meant about unlimited was that if they switched to this they wouldn't have it anymore. And instead of tacking on $30 extra to there bill for the hotspot that the root for wifi is better for them.. but if a person doesn't have unlimited, this plan would be one to think about
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That's true, the thing I meant about unlimited was that if they switched to this they wouldn't have it anymore. And instead of tacking on $30 extra to there bill for the hotspot that the root for wifi is better for them.. but if a person doesn't have unlimited, this plan would be one to think about
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I was just explaining why tethering is free for share everything users, and how it differs for unlimited. Personally I can live without unlimited without a problem so i'm looking forward to the free tethering without root or any exploit.
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I was just explaining why tethering is free for share everything users, and how it differs for unlimited. Personally I can live without unlimited without a problem so i'm looking forward to the free tethering without root or any exploit.
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Oh ok.. yea I understand that, I'm the same way
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So do you have to be on a share everything plan? I have the 4gb promotional data plan for the price of 2gb. Would l be able to use Wifi teether free? Thanks
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So do you have to be on a share everything plan? I have the 4gb promotional data plan for the price of 2gb. Would l be able to use Wifi teether free? Thanks
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Unfortunately, no. You would have to add it for the $30.. I had that too
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I was about to convert my unlimited data plan to a 6GB plan since I only use 4.2 on average and thats without the tons of reliable wifi hotspots I have around me. But then I realized this phone kicks at 1080p, so things like youtube/netflix streams are going to be coming in at higher bitrates. I'll also probably use the phone more than my thunderbolt for general web-surfing since it look so much better. Basically, this phone is going to kick up my consumption levels several factors. 6GB is barely enough for my thunderbolt, I have a feeling I'm going to break the bank with the DNA. So I paid full retail just to keep unlimited.
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I was about to convert my unlimited data plan to a 6GB plan since I only use 4.2 on average and thats without the tons of reliable wifi hotspots I have around me. But then I realized this phone kicks at 1080p, so things like youtube/netflix streams are going to be coming in at higher bitrates. I'll also probably use the phone more than my thunderbolt for general web-surfing since it look so much better. Basically, this phone is going to kick up my consumption levels several factors. 6GB is barely enough for my thunderbolt, I have a feeling I'm going to break the bank with the DNA. So I paid full retail just to keep unlimited.
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Nice. Yea I heard about that too. VZW is doing away with unlimited completely. The only way to keep it is if you buy all phone from now on at full retail prices. If you use the upgrade you don't get to keep your unlimited
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What does this mean
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Means you changed data plans to the lte unlimited. Because it's two different plans they will show twice on your statement and when checking data usage
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I went through that during the time I activated my phone and I'm still clarifying some AT&T screw up on my account right now. Make sure that your grandfathered in data plan is transferred over and no "pro-rated" addition $10 is added.
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Means you changed data plans to the lte unlimited. Because it's two different plans they will show twice on your statement and when checking data usage
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You didn't notice. The unlimited deactivated is still growing while the new unlimited is still at zero. I will stop by att after work and see about that and the messaging color not changing. Ill see if it changes on the demo and request a new one if it works on that. Hate white background
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Figures, went to att and asked them about it. Tried it again as they looked thru system and it fixed durring the day today some how.
That's a lot of messaging.
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There's nothing wrong with any of that.
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That's a lot of messaging.
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my little sister has her messaging that high. she has her twitter/social media updates sent to her through text. saves on the data, I guess.
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That's a lot of messaging.
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That messaging is 5 phones on a family plan. 3 kids typing away
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my little sister has her messaging that high. she has her twitter/social media updates sent to her through text. saves on the data, I guess.
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My kids do the same thing because they have data blocked
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How do you have unlimited LTE? Is this like that VZ work around? Im thinking of getting a VZ phone as a holdover if the Journal comes out, since you can trick the plans into giving you unlimited data!
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How do you have unlimited LTE? Is this like that VZ work around? Im thinking of getting a VZ phone as a holdover if the Journal comes out, since you can trick the plans into giving you unlimited data!
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He was most likely grandfathered in, the same way I was and all the rest of us grandfathered.
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He was most likely grandfathered in, the same way I was and all the rest of us grandfathered.
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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They say they start throttling but I've yet to go over that lately anyways, but there are ways around that too. I have no idea about what vzw users are doing to cheat the vzw system lol. I've thought about going back to vzw, but at the moment its like leaving one thief for another.
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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It seems to be like how Comcast does throttling. They nab up a hand full of people and smack them down. Who knows. I've broke past the 4GB mark a few times.
after being throttle to .6 mb this cicle i have to say im not seing a difference in my usage
i currently am at 9gbs of usage this month and am able to still stream my nba games live at throttled speeds still.
i currently am doing my parctice were i use my phone a lot for video chat and photo taking for price checking and inventory.
I aint tryying to denfend att in no way in fact i did start a complaint here in puerto rico fcc equivalent when this whole five percent thing started to the point of having to talk to there customer service manager.
But is it really affecting you guys as much?
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I am at over 7GB, and have not been slowed down a bit. Not sure what the whole fuss is about!
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wish I could of kept my unlimited plan
It got all messed up last year
I tried to call and get it fixed but they didnt wanna help. Went up a few levels and still no unlimited plan =(
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wish I could of kept my unlimited plan
It got all messed up last year
I tried to call and get it fixed but they didnt wanna help. Went up a few levels and still no unlimited plan =(
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That sucks. That almost happened to me this time when I changed my phone to GNote from Atrix. ATT tried to pull a fast one by charging me the same price for 3gb of data. It wasn't a difficult process but they did have to make a claim. Nowadays even supervisors can't change the plan... Thankfully, i keep a good eye on my usage.
I wonder if you guys can get the unlimited data plan back with the iPhone 2G (aka Original iPhone) trick. Get an old iPhone, activate it on iTunes and it will get you the unlimited data plan since that was the only plan available for the iPhone 2G. Don't know if that loophole was closed but some people have claimed they tried it in December and it was still working as of then.
EDIT: Looks like that loophole has been closed and no longer works
Beats getting overcharged i guess buat am able to use my phone normally so maybe now att is using there heads
or you can go the verizon way and have an 10gb plan (20gb if ya bought it at christmas time)
now theres a plan i dont think anyone will cross
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The new policy did say 4G LTE users would not be slowed down as much as hspa +/3G users, of course they did not specify speeds.
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I am at over 7GB, and have not been slowed down a bit. Not sure what the whole fuss is about!
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What are you guys doing to hit 7GB , tethering lots of streaming? I think I need to get out if the house more and get off wifi lol.
So far I've only used 232 MB 7 days in lol. But that will change soon when I start to travel and such this summer. I plan on using my note to tether to my iPad and Transformer Prime.
they are only throttling iPhone users, not other unlimited plan users
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Im not tethering but i.dont have access to wifi also and i watch nba games all the time on my device and use google music as my main music player
gb of data will soon mean nothing with all the cool.stuff coming out for phones
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All unlimited users within the top 5% have been throttled since october '11
They published the policy online last month
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they are only throttling iPhone users, not other unlimited plan users
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All unlimited users within the top 5% have been throttled since october '11
They published the policy online last month
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Don't say that. Gez. Its only in certain areas. There are still plenty of people that haven't been throttled. You just don't hear from themes much
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What are you guys doing to hit 7GB , tethering lots of streaming? I think I need to get out if the house more and get off wifi lol.
So far I've only used 232 MB 7 days in lol. But that will change soon when I start to travel and such this summer. I plan on using my note to tether to my iPad and Transformer Prime.
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i used 2gb after 10 days into billing cycle
all i do is play games / browse website
i didnt even tether / stream / youtube once
When I get throttled I just get myself unthrottled. The ImEi trick always works
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Change APN, don't get throttled?
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Don't say that. Gez. Its only in certain areas. There are still plenty of people that haven't been throttled. You just don't hear from themes much
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They've been doing it for months and its everywhere not just in select areas but most people wouldn't ever use enough data to get throttled.
The only real change is that now they've set the throttle cap at 3gb for HSPA+ phones & 5gb for LTE phones. Up until last month they were basing the throttling on being in the 'top 5%' of other users in your area, which resulted in people on 'unlimited plans' getting throttled under 2gb.
Whoops I hitbthebthanks button. People are not getting throttled like they are supposed to. Its pretty easy to see. They are being selective
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Whoops I hitbthebthanks button. People are not getting throttled like they are supposed to. Its pretty easy to see. They are being selective
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Well thanks for the thanks anyway lol.. I was always suspicious of how they were throttling but now that they've set some actual numbers in stone I feel a little better about it. I'm a little irritated though that I pay for two identical unlimited data plans (for the past 5 years) and now one gives me 3GB while the other gives me 5GB.. even though I pay the same for both.. Oh well, its better than randomly being throttled at 2GB I guess.
At about 6.5gbs (which is pretty low for my average monthly usage) and have not been throttled even after reviving notification.
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Well...it is true that they are supposedly trying to only throttle in areas that are congested
That could explain the lack of throttling of some.
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So my girlfriend is going to be getting a note.
But we don't get lte in our area. We hardly get 4g.
Do we absolutely have to add a lte data plan on to our account or could we get like a 3g/4g data plan?
Basically don't want to pay for something we are never going to use.
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So my girlfriend is going to be getting a note.
But we don't get lte in our area. We hardly get 4g.
Do we absolutely have to add a lte data plan on to our account or could we get like a 3g/4g data plan?
Basically don't want to pay for something we are never going to use.
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You can call ATT to verify but I'm pretty sure you can use a normal data plan. Your account needs to be provisioned for LTE for it to work (and with the SIM iirc), but you should still be able to pull hspa+ with no issues.
I wasn't charged anything extra for having LTE provisioned on my account, but I'm also grandfathered unlimited.
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Yeah, it will depend greatly on the actual AT&T person who sets you up. Bottom line is that technically, you can use the Note without being provisioned for LTE. My girlfriend and I both had our Notes set up on our old data plan for a couple of months before a store realized the error while fishing in our account for other stuff.
Ok. I actually just called them.
The guy basically said that no matter what I get for data 3g/4g/LTE its all the same price.
It just depends on how much data she wants.
Can anyone confirm this?
She had a 2gb data plan from like 2 1/2 years ago. They don't offer that so they said regardless we are going to be charged more once we upgrade the contract.
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Yeah the 2gb plan is no longer available, it's now like 500mb for 20 3gb for 30 and i dint remember how much the 5gb plan was cause i went with the 3gb
The plans and prices are all the same regardless of what smartphone u have. Currently they are $20/300mb $30/3gb $50/5gb with tethering. if u already had a smartphone on an older smartphone data plan you are grandfathered in to that for the time being.
At&t sales rep here.
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The plans and prices are all the same regardless of what smartphone u have. Currently they are $20/300mb $30/3gb $50/5gb with tethering. if u already had a smartphone on an older smartphone data plan you are grandfathered in to that for the time being.
At&t sales rep here.
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OK sweet. Thanks.
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Just keep tabs on your usage with *3282# SEND. These phone are capable of allot of data even if you do not stream audio and video. 3GB is nothing with Play updates, a little web, FB, Twitter, FourSquare, email and Maps... Youtube can easily chew up a few hundred MB in a session.
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Just keep tabs on your usage with *3282# SEND. These phone are capable of allot of data even if you do not stream audio and video. 3GB is nothing with Play updates, a little web, FB, Twitter, FourSquare, email and Maps... Youtube can easily chew up a few hundred MB in a session.
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I have sprint so I don't worry about it. But I always check for my gf. She is always so close to going over. Lol.
Then I'm like " No more internet". Haha.
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The plans and prices are all the same regardless of what smartphone u have. Currently they are $20/300mb $30/3gb $50/5gb with tethering. if u already had a smartphone on an older smartphone data plan you are grandfathered in to that for the time being.
At&t sales rep here.
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Why do you say for the time being? Are they trying to do away with the grandfathered unlimited? Honestly...that's the only reason I stuck with ATT
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No i haven't heard that they will, but they can at any time. The way things are going its bound to happen at some point.
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Before everyone flips out on me... give me a second. So I told my dad he was going to lose his unlimited data if he didn't upgrade his phone by today. Which of course he ends up waiting until today to do. Come to find out that he had to upgrade before today in order to keep his unlimited data. We are on a family share plan and only me and my dad have unlimited data, but my brother and sister, who are also on it, have the 2GB data cap.
So I told him to try to transfer his upgrade to one of them and get the subsidized price and just upgrade it on his line. So he tries to pre-order the SGSIII on my brother's line and this pops up.
"The existing plan Nationwide Account Level Talk & Text Family Share 2000, is not compatible with the new device." So it either chooses new individual plan or new share voice and data plan.
What's confusing though is that under smartphone data packages, it doesn't have the new family data plan pricing. It still has 2 GB for $30, 5GB for $50, and 10GB for $80 and under plan shares summary on the left side where the totals are, it does say "Nationwide Account Level Talk & Text Family Share 2000". So I'm confused as F*CK right now and I want my dad to keep his unlimited for at least another 2 years, but I also don't want to lose mine and get screwed over with this new family data share plan. Not to mention that fact that I'm not sure whether they are actually forcing us into this new data share plan or not.
Thoughts? Can anyone who has a family plan with an upgrade vouch?
There is no more grandfathering it on on subsidized phones. You have to purchase the phone out right to keep unlimited now. No upgrading from 3G to 4G and keeping unlimited either I believe.
Put him on an individual account and then merge the two later on. The account change probably wouldnt happen til you activated the phone on your brothers account any ways...They effed up my rezound upgrade/account and that happened. Easy fix :3
Edit: that may not work due to their crap share accounts...
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Sorry, only way to keep unlimited now is to buy the phone out right. No more grandfathering it on on subsidized phones.
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Sigh... Right over your head
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Put him on an individual account and then merge the two later on. The account change probably wouldnt happen til you activated the phone on your brothers account any ways...They effed up my rezound upgrade/account and that happened. Easy fix :3
Edit: that may not work due to their crap share accounts...
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The problem is I'm not sure whether the share accounts are even in the system yet. It's telling me I have to switch to the data share plan, but doesn't give me the data plan pricing that verizon states.
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Sigh... Right over your head
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I'm telling you per their new policies, there's no way to buy a subsidized phone and keep your unlimited data regardless what their system is telling you.. You stated you wanted to keep his unlimited data and get him a subsidized phone, what exactly went over my head?
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The problem is I'm not sure whether the share accounts are even in the system yet. It's telling me I have to switch to the data share plan, but doesn't give me the data plan pricing that verizon states.
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Hmm. Idk then....
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mjones73 said:
I'm telling you per their new policies, there's no way to buy a subsidized phone and keep your unlimited data regardless what their system is telling you.. You stated you wanted to keep his unlimited data and get him a subsidized phone, what exactly went over my head?
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You stated something I already knew. Why would I post this if I didn't know that? Were you aware of people getting unlimited data through the unlimited mobile hotspot promotion? There ARE loopholes. Now please stay on topic and stop telling me things I already know.
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Hmm. Idk then....
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Not to mention the fact that the same exact plan still pops up that says wasn't compatible with the device.
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You stated something I already knew. Why would I post this if I didn't know that? Were you aware of people getting unlimited data through the unlimited mobile hotspot promotion? There ARE loopholes. Now please stay on topic and stop telling me things I already know.
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Excuse me for not being a mind reader asshole... How the hell am I supposed to know what you already know then you come off like a prick about it. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped frequenting this forum.
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Excuse me for not being a mind reader asshole... How the hell am I supposed to know what you already know then you come off like a prick about it. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped frequenting this forum.
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Where in the thread title does it say anything about unlimited data? It has to do with the new family plans. Antp understood what I was trying to say. Also keep the personal attacks out of here. I don't want this thread closed because I would actually like an answer.
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I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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Also, I would like to add that if the family data share plans aren't forced there should be no reason why an unlimited data line couldn't transfer their upgrade to a 2 GB plan. Have that person upgrade and upgrade the line on the unlimited person's line. Herego unlimited data being kept with an unsubsidized Price.
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I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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Why is everyone pre ordering the SIII? What is so good about it.
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Why is everyone pre ordering the SIII? What is so good about it.
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There is this awesome thing called www.google.com you should learn to utilize it.
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There is this awesome thing called www.google.com you should learn to utilize it.
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Yes I have searched the GSIII but still same specs almost unless gsm version and 4.8 inches is to big for me it's like the g-note and as well touchwiz I dont like.
But I do like the design and thats about it and I dont know about camera quality vs Rezound.
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Yes I have searched the GSIII but still same specs almost unless gsm version and 4.8 inches is to big for me it's like the g-note and as well touchwiz I dont like.
But I do like the design and thats about it and I dont know about camera quality vs Rezound.
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Battery life man. The S4 processor is a beast. Many reviewers said the thing is damn hard to.kill in a day under normal use.
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I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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So you decided to go for it too.
I pre-ordered mine back when we where talking on the mik.
I don't even really want the thing, I absolutely LOVE my rezounds but I figured I might as well grab the last subsidized phone available.
Op simple fix. If it isn't broken don't fix it! People really need to stop buying new phones. If you have unlimited, on any plan/network/phone please don't upgrade.
And I also agree with the screen being way to big and hassle.
Not to be off point here... But my HTCG2 ....grandfather'd from G1...to G2(HSPDA+)....2yrs still running...Running (ROOTED) ROM PORTED ISC4.4 my 4g speed is fast (check my post's for non believers) for proof of batt stats but I get close too 2days on normal usage...point is They didn't do an upgrade to the G2(*GOOGLE DEV PHONE) yet... and ur dad wants an S3? ....third one already and they keep making them to get ppl to *Want* to upgrade to get the better contracts out the way. Advice would be if you like the phone you have and are satisfied don't take any chance in 2012....(sry long)
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Well everyone's completely missing the point of my post. I'm trying to figure out if Verizon is indeed trying to force us into these new data share plans if you're on a family plan.
Since third party tethering apps are allowed. What are the consequences of running whole home imternet off my phone. Anything VZW can do? Heard they can terminate account.
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thats a good question i would like to know too
Pretty sure 3rd party tethering apps are not allowed. They want you to pay the additional fee for tethering. If they catch you they I'm sure could terminate your account. Never heard of it happening though.
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Terminate your account, call due your etfs, and send your a ginormous data bill would be the worst case scenario.
Chances are terminating your account would also blacklist you from reinstating it....ever.
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Since third party tethering apps are allowed. What are the consequences of running whole home imternet off my phone. Anything VZW can do? Heard they can terminate account.
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They can't do anything do to the new laws. If they do your could potentially sue them.
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Pretty sure 3rd party tethering apps are not allowed. They want you to pay the additional fee for tethering. If they catch you they I'm sure could terminate your account. Never heard of it happening though.
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They are allowed verizon can't do anything about it as long as the fcc is there. Also they would terminate your account they'd just want you to pay for a tethering plan and the data that you've used.
nnnnr14 said:
They can't do anything do to the new laws. If they do your could potentially sue them.
They are allowed verizon can't do anything about it as long as the fcc is there. Also they would terminate your account they'd just want you to pay for a tethering plan and the data that you've used.
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Um, yes they can if you are on unlimited. FCC even knows about it.
http://www.fcc.gov/document/verizon-wireless-pay-125-million-settle-investigation
In addition, the company recently revised its service offerings such that consumers on usage-based
pricing plans may tether, using any application, without paying an additional fee.
-FCC-
For news and information about the FCC, please visit: www.fcc.gov
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The FCC ruling does not include grandfathered plans.
The ruling is almost entirely about tethering apps, not service. Verizon gets through on a loophole due to CDMA being included in a lot of this stuff. Try to take them to court on it, I dare ya
I rooted my friend's nexus for Verizon and he's currently running a 3rd party tethering app and nothing has happened to his account.
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adrynalyne said:
Um, yes they can if you are on unlimited. FCC even knows about it.
http://www.fcc.gov/document/verizon-wireless-pay-125-million-settle-investigation
The ruling is almost entirely about tethering apps, not service. Verizon gets through on a loophole due to CDMA being included. Try to take them to court on it, I dare ya
They don't have to allow tethering on CDMA at all.
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Well they've done nothing to me I've been on Verizon since the alltel merging with unlimited and when 4g came our and I got my thunderbolt I have been using 3rd party tethering apps and I haven't been caught so they know but just won't point it out cause they know they'll lose some high paying customers.
nnnnr14 said:
Well they've done nothing to me I've been on Verizon since the alltel merging with unlimited and when 4g came our and I got my thunderbolt I have been using 3rd party tethering apps and I haven't been caught so they know but just won't point it out cause they know they'll lose some high paying customers.
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Right, but never have is not synonymous with never will.
From what I read, OP just wanted a worse case scenario sort of response.
None of us can rightfully tell the guy that he cannot be punished for unauthorized tethering.
We have an awesome Verizon corporate rep. It is a great looking chic and she is cool as hell.
I asked her about this one time and about things like using a ton of data with my slingbox etc. She actually walked in while I was using my Slingbox and asked me how it worked.
She could care less what I do, but she did advise me not to go absolutely crazy with the data use as things like Slingbox that are unsupported and third party tethering are TOS violations and you may endanger your unlimited data package (something I have been really careful not to do)
She said as long as you use a reasonable amount of data VZ won't care, but the DBs that use 150 gigs a month and then brag about it on sites like this are definitely pressing their luck IMHO.
Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot
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ihavenewnike said:
Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot
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If you pay for the hotspot, you can legitimately use as much data as you want.
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Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot
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If you pay for the hotspot, you can legitimately use as much data as you want.
That is correct but I wouldn't doubt if you used a lot your speed would mysteriously slow down at some point...
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Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot
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If you pay for the hotspot, you can legitimately use as much data as you want.
That is correct but I wouldn't doubt if you used a lot your speed would mysteriously slow down at some point...
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LTE is not allowed to be throttled.
They will on 3G though.
Cool. I might go that route. Seems like it could be alright though. Right now I pay 80 bucks for internet for the high speeds. Ibget better speeds on lte than that though. 50 dollar savings seems ok
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If you use a 3rd party app or hack the stock tethering you should be fine as long as you don't go crazy tethering. You'd most likely not be content with a home network tethered from your phone. Verizon will throttle your data to crippling speeds if you consistently used a large amount of data.
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joshw0000 said:
If you use a 3rd party app or hack the stock tethering you should be fine as long as you don't go crazy tethering. You'd most likely not be content with a home network tethered from your phone. Verizon will throttle your data to crippling speeds if you consistently used a large amount of data.
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Let me repeat:
They cannot throttle LTE, only 3G.
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Verizon will throttle your data to crippling speeds if you consistently used a large amount of data.
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Only if its 3g data, they don't throttle 4g.
I do agree it's not the worlds best idea to run your entire home internet by tethering however.
I would never do that (i use roadrunner) and sooner or later I firmly believe verizon will discontinue unlimited data for everyone anyway.
They won't charge you anything. They will simply put a block on your tethering and nothing else.
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Let me repeat:
They cannot throttle LTE, only 3G.
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Care to share an article?
In the days of the Droid X, there was a simple hack to remove throttling. In everything I've read currently, the throttle is done at the network level, not from the device. I don't see why they'd throttle 3G and not 4G (LTE).
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