Dear Fellow XDA-Developers,
I have spent the last 3 days researching all I can on the Galaxy Note 2, awaiting its final arrival on Verizon. I've seen great videos and posts on its external connectivity (props to NZtechfreak for his work).
I've also seen successful efforts to connect it to a HDMI television directly, no need for the docking station. Very cool. :victory:
What I've *not* been able to discover is whether anyone has successfully been able to hook a Galaxy Note 2 to an external touchscreen and have it both display the video output and serve as an input source for navigation?
Has anyone tried and succeeded here? Any tips or leads?
blanders01 said:
Dear Fellow XDA-Developers,
I have spent the last 3 days researching all I can on the Galaxy Note 2, awaiting its final arrival on Verizon. I've seen great videos and posts on its external connectivity (props to NZtechfreak for his work).
I've also seen successful efforts to connect it to a HDMI television directly, no need for the docking station. Very cool. :victory:
What I've *not* been able to discover is whether anyone has successfully been able to hook a Galaxy Note 2 to an external touchscreen and have it both display the video output and serve as an input source for navigation?
Has anyone tried and succeeded here? Any tips or leads?
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It really depends on how the input is connected. Most of the touch screens I have seen connect to the pc via generic mouse drivers. If that is the case, you would need the media dock to connect to the touchscreen via usb and hdmi. (The mhl adapter does have a usb port, but it only provides power).
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It really depends on how the input is connected. Most of the touch screens I have seen connect to the pc via generic mouse drivers. If that is the case, you would need the media dock to connect to the touchscreen via usb and hdmi. (The mhl adapter does have a usb port, but it only provides power).
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Thanks SFBPro! Could you forego the media dock if you purchased an externally powered USB hub? Are there any options other than the media dock?
And to anyone else, any examples of specific hardware successfully working here? Many thanks!
blanders01 said:
Thanks SFBPro! Could you forego the media dock if you purchased an externally powered USB hub? Are there any options other than the media dock?
And to anyone else, any examples of specific hardware successfully working here? Many thanks!
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How do you plan on getting the video on the screen using the hub? Are you thinking about plugging in a MHL into the hub? If so, I don't think that will work.
Did you find a solution? I want to Mount a external screen in my car and connect my Note 2.
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I ordered the MHL adaptor from T-Mobile's website yesterday, so I should get it today (yeah, I paid the extra $6 for overnight shipping).
Does this phone support FULL mirroring (i.e., when plugged in to TV, TV screen mirrors whatever is on the phone's screen)? I used the full HDMI app on my Evo 4G, and it was great for watching shows from HBO GO on my TV.
Has anyone tried it yet? If not, is there a review out there somewhere that specifically demonstrates this feature?
I guess I'll know tonight when I get home from work!
Thanks,
Rob
I haven't seen it specifically on this phone, but I've seen the Qualcomm MSM8660 demos showing full mirroring. We should be capable of it, but I haven't tried it out yet.
I'm surprised nobody's tried it yet!
Can you use the normal micro HDMI or do you have to buy the adapter to use HDMI? Lol kinda confused how this works with the new port? Could anyone explain? Thanks
You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
Does that help?
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You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
Does that help?
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I believe that was what he said in the first line..
rtmeikle said:
You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
Does that help?
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Thanks for clearing that up!!
Back to the issue at hand... does it do HDMI mirroring or not? I have this bad ass HDMI integration in my Prius that is preventing me from upgrading from the 4G until at least HDMI mirroring is confirmed.
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Back to the issue at hand... does it do HDMI mirroring or not? I have this bad ass HDMI integration in my Prius that is preventing me from upgrading from the 4G until at least HDMI mirroring is confirmed.
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According to this demo from CTIA it appears it can, but this is unfinished testing hardware/firmware so it's still not a confirmation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ynmqtopi9g
This doesn't exactly give you an answer with the level of certainty you are looking for but it's a good sign. We should see some end users with feedback on HDMI features on the production phone streaming in any time now that hopefully confirms that it can do this across any application without problems or limitations.
rtmeikle said:
I ordered the MHL adaptor from T-Mobile's website yesterday, so I should get it today (yeah, I paid the extra $6 for overnight shipping).
Does this phone support FULL mirroring (i.e., when plugged in to TV, TV screen mirrors whatever is on the phone's screen)? I used the full HDMI app on my Evo 4G, and it was great for watching shows from HBO GO on my TV.
Has anyone tried it yet? If not, is there a review out there somewhere that specifically demonstrates this feature?
I guess I'll know tonight when I get home from work!
Thanks,
Rob
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hey rtmeikle . I also got the mhl from tmobile. I hooked it up last night to sadly find out that hdmi mirroring is not supported at all. It was all a big hype it appears. Were you able to get it working? I'm hoping that you were so maybe its just my device....if not, then this phone is going back.
Yep, I got mine yesterday and tested it. It works fine.
You have to have the adaptor plugged in to the phone, a charger plugged to the adaptor, and the HDMI cable running from the phone to the TV.
I got full HDMI mirroring which automatically switched to landscape when I tested Netflix and HBO Go.
Rob
interesting. thanks for the quick respond. When i connect it to my hd tv all i get on the phone is a message that says *HDMI play a video or slideshow to display via hdmi* on the notifications bar. When I click that, nothing happens...
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interesting. thanks for the quick respond. When i connect it to my hd tv all i get on the phone is a message that says *HDMI play a video or slideshow to display via hdmi* on the notifications bar. When I click that, nothing happens...
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Strange. The image of my home screen just popped up on my TV; I didn't have to do anything.
I tested it on the TV in my bedroom, a 3-yr-old Samsung 42" Plasma, nothing fancy.
Maybe tonight I'll test it on my other two TVs and see if it works on all of them.
did you allow the latest OTA upgrade or did you cancel it? I allowed it as soon as I turned the phone on. I also tried it on my 58 samsung plasma hdtv. Its not that old but also not that new.
I'm going to try it tonight on my smaller 32 inch lcd hd tv to see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't though.
Not like it matters since all MHL cables are the same but here is the MHL adapter I'm using: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...4ec1-a08e-e133fa772d53&inCart=True&catCode=23
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did you allow the latest OTA upgrade or did you cancel it? I allowed it as soon as I turned the phone on. I also tried it on my 58 samsung plasma hdtv. Its not that old but also not that new.
I'm going to try it tonight on my smaller 32 inch lcd hd tv to see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't though.
Not like it matters since all MHL cables are the same but here is the MHL adapter I'm using: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...4ec1-a08e-e133fa772d53&inCart=True&catCode=23
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Yep, I've accepted the OTAs. And I'm using the exact same adaptor. Did you plug power into the adaptor too? I didnt' try without plugging it in, but I've heard that it needs to be plugged in to work.
Ok, i finaly got it to work. It wasn't a problem with the phone but a problem with the tv. I had to change some resolution settings on the tv and presto! Hdmi mirroring on its full glory
Now, do you know if I can pair up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse? Thats next for me.
Thanks for all the help.
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Now, do you know if I can pair up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse? Thats next for me.
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This is what I am currently doing. I have hooked up the following.
Mouse: Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000
Keyboard: Logitech MX5500 Keyboard
The keyboard works great. I can type in the applications and setup my keys in the emulators just fine (snesoid etc)
Mouse functionality though is different then you may expect. You don't get a mouse cursor, it just "highlights" selections then you "left click" to go forward. According to my research the right mouse button is supposed to "go back" but is not working for me.
I put up a thread asking others for help with it, so if I find an answer I will let you know.
Updating you on what I found out about the mouse.
"Well it looks like the fancy mouse support with a cursor and button functionality was something that was included in CyanogenMod 6.X then removed on CyanogenMod 7.
They then added a patch for version 7. But now apparently it is being included in his latest CyanogenMod.
Regardless, it appears you need root access "
wait so how do you charge your phone if you use that hdmi adapter? anyone have a link?
A.Priori said:
wait so how do you charge your phone if you use that hdmi adapter? anyone have a link?
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the adapter has a USB plug that you use to hook up to a charger, and will charge your phone. Newer TVs are coming that will support charging over HDMI via the MHL adapter, there may be some out but I think will be a standard in 2012 TVs.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-mhl-to-hdmi-adapter-black-218572/
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-sensation-mhl-cable-ac-m490-extmicro-usb-12-pin-to-hdmi-218634/
the HTC one looks lke it includes a HDMI cable, too, but you can see the usb port on each adapter for charging.
Does anyone now if this will work with the galaxy tab 7.7 WiFi p6810? searched the forums and couldn't find a definitive answer on this. Thanks!
gaff15 said:
Does anyone now if this will work with the galaxy tab 7.7 WiFi p6810? searched the forums and couldn't find a definitive answer on this. Thanks!
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All of the Galaxy Tab products designed to use the 30-pin connector should work. The HDMI adapter I had from my P1000 worked just fine with my friend's P7510, my old P7300, and now my P6800.
So, yeah, it'll work.
I have one intended for the 8.9/10.1, it works with the 7.7 WiFi. The USB adapter also works.
Just chiming in that it works fine on the 7.7.
I find it kind of ridicolous that the hdmi adapter requires power to function. It makes sense if you would be watching a movie but if for example you are holding a presentation and you want to hold the tab in the hand this is a serious problem, because of the second cable and the fact that the charging cables aren't so long.
Has any of you guys have any idea if this is a hardware requirement or if this could be turned of via software?
If not how does the picture-quality of the hdmi-cable compare to the quality of a simple AV cable?
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I find it kind of ridicolous that the hdmi adapter requires power to function. It makes sense if you would be watching a movie but if for example you are holding a presentation and you want to hold the tab in the hand this is a serious problem, because of the second cable and the fact that the charging cables aren't so long.
Has any of you guys have any idea if this is a hardware requirement or if this could be turned of via software?
If not how does the picture-quality of the hdmi-cable compare to the quality of a simple AV cable?
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I'm not sure there is a simple AV cable solution for the 7.7 afaik... I don't know the exact post, but I remember seeing something a while ago about someone trying the AV adapter from the original P1000 with no luck. Also, to answer your question about picture quality, standard composite video only allows for about a 720x480 or 720x576 resolution (depending on region), which is pretty bad compared to the native 1280x800 of the 7.7. Also the 16:10 aspect ratio of the 7.7 is wildly different than the 3:2 and 5:4 (respectively) ratio's of the other two composite displays, so everything will look all funky and unreadable...
Now, having said all that, I do know that HDMI provides 5vdc power via pin 18 (17 is the gnd), albiet, not very MUCH power (50ma max), but perhaps it might be just enough that one could make a modified HDMI adapter that tricks the tablet into thinking that an external power source is connected... Might be a fun DIY project!
Just a thought
HDMI Adapter - Picture but no sound
Hi, first time poster here, I've searched all the forums and posts I could find and I don't see any answers relating to this specific question, so here goes.
I have just got the Galaxy Tab wifi version (P6810) and I bought the EPL-3PHPBEGSTA hdmi adapter to be able to connect watch videos on my TV screen.
This gives me perfect picture but no sound at all. I have power lead connected to the adapter.
I have tried playing through MXPlayer, You Tube and standard video player. None of these give me sound.
I can use the same HDMI cable, TV and connection route and connect my galaxy nexus via MDL to the TV and I get both picture and sound.
I am connecting to the TV via a Denon home theater AMP which was why I checked that the phone was able to send on the same settings & cables.
I've not seen any posts with this same issue of no sound at all, has anyone seen this before? Or does anyone have any idea on what I am missing?
Hey there, i have tried gathering information about this subject and it seems all threads always lead to this announcement:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
Short: Samsung have changed to an 11 Pin-out to enable USB OTG and MHL Hdmi out at the same time. I purchased an original HDTV Adapter (EPL-3FHUBEGSTD) which as far as i can reliably count indeed has about 11 connectors inside the USB connector that goes into the phone.
Now, i can get HDMI out just fine, but ONLY when i also connect the MHL adapter to a power source (a PC USB Port will do fine), however i have also read, that the phone is able to power the MHL adapter itself but obviously would not be charged then (no surprises there). This does not work however.
Further, connecting a USB OTG cable to the micro usb port on the MHL adapter does nothing. No notification and no devices connecting. No power either, since the LED on my USB Hub does not light up as it should. Connecting any devices to the hub does nothing to change that situation. If i leave out the MHL adapter and connect the USB OTG cable directly to the phone, everything works perfectly. I have tried this with 2 different OTG cables so they are not the problem.
This is an original genuine HDTV Adapter for our phones, which according to that post should be working fine with USB OTG.
AFAIK, this topic --does-- come up more frequently now as i can find a few more discussions about it, albeit none really helpful:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-of-11-pin-mhl-connector-in-samsung-galaxy-s3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743128
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803079
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link#11-pin_MHL-USB_Connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811435
That wiki entry is the most interesting link as it definitely states that using MHL and USB OTG simultaneously is possible and is also the reason why the 5 pin layout was changed to an 11 Pin layout.
Looking forward to reading your replies!
the ability to use MHL and OTG simultaneously would give the S3 so much more purpose. It is powerful enough to replace a desktop computer used only for light stuff like browsing and watching videos, and even simple gaming. If samsung made a dock like the one for the motorola atrix I'm convinced they will broaden their target group. The atrix got everything right with this but is inferior hardware wise. I love the idea of a one device for everything concept. Unfortunately it doesn't rhyme very well with the growth society.
Love the MHL and the OTG is even better only after I got the correct cables as the cables changed on S3 to the S2 version, unlimited space for watching films on my phone is now awesome and even better connecting it to to the TV just need a good dock,
is there perhaps any expert advise on this? According to multiple sources it should work but really doesnt. Did i buy the wrong mhl adapter?
I think they will only both work together when being used with an MHL enabled tv. That way the power comes from the tv and the usb on the adapter can be used for the usb-otg cable.
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But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
Thanks
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But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
Thanks
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I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
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I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
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It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
joysleep said:
It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
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Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
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Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
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I have recently received an MHL connector (5 pin type) and the samsung 11 to 5 pin adapter for it. I can confirm that if I plug my OTG cable into it, and then into my powered USB hub, I can get the MHL to work just fine, both video and audio. The OTG cable powers it just fine, but does NOT allow me to use other devices attached to the USB hub.
I am still researching. I suspect you need to bring all 11 pins off the phone with a splitter of some sort, or possibly wire data lines through the MHL. Probably not with the 5 pin MHL connector and 11 to 5 pin adapter, but with the full 11 pin MHL adapter. I am not up to that level of hardware hacking. I suspect whoever does it first can sell a BUNCH of them!
Oh, and I have a Moto Lapdock for my Raspberry Pi, and would love to hook my S3 to it too!
Scott
Hello,
My Atrix 4G has has no touchscreen. I don't feel like buying a new digitizer and replacing it. I would like to use my Atrix as a media center only connected to my TV. Is it possible for me to set it up to run without a digitizer/touchscreen and only use with my TV and a wireless mouse/keyboard?
Thanks
Jon
jonmueller said:
Hello,
My Atrix 4G has has no touchscreen. I don't feel like buying a new digitizer and replacing it. I would like to use my Atrix as a media center only connected to my TV. Is it possible for me to set it up to run without a digitizer/touchscreen and only use with my TV and a wireless mouse/keyboard?
Thanks
Jon
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Yes, it's possible. Just plug the cellphone and the keyboard / mouse to the dock (in case they work via USB dongle / not bluetooth) and it's set to work the way you want.
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Yes, it's possible. Just plug the cellphone and the keyboard / mouse to the dock (in case they work via USB dongle / not bluetooth) and it's set to work the way you want.
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That's great to know. Is it possible to plug a usb mouse/keyboard directly into the body of the Atrix with a micro usb adapter and get around Android without a touchscreen?
Thanks for your help,
Jon
jonmueller said:
That's great to know. Is it possible to plug a usb mouse/keyboard directly into the body of the Atrix with a micro usb adapter and get around Android without a touchscreen?
Thanks for your help,
Jon
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Unfortunately, that's not possible. The usual microUSB / female USB cables, as used with a lot of other smartphones, doesn't work with the atrix, our phone needs an external power outlet to be able to work with USB devices. You can either use the multimedia Dock or a 'custom' cable, I saw some time ago in youtube a tutorial teaching how to make a custom one, or maybe you can find it in ebay (not sure, never looked for it, to be sincere).
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Unfortunately, that's not possible. The usual microUSB / female USB cables, as used with a lot of other smartphones, doesn't work with the atrix, our phone needs an external power outlet to be able to work with USB devices. You can either use the multimedia Dock or a 'custom' cable, I saw some time ago in youtube a tutorial teaching how to make a custom one, or maybe you can find it in ebay (not sure, never looked for it, to be sincere).
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the cable you are talking about is called udb otg ( on the go), switch the phone's usb port into host mode.. only drawback is that atrix can't supply power to the usb, you must use an external power source for the devicr attached
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I managed to use my atrix with the lapdock for around a month while I sourced a new digitizer and it worked great. I would recommend that you find a work and play kit second hand as I often use the webtop for watching on-demand tv and someone is working on a full resolution xbmc port that would work great with the remote. You might also be able to use the usb host ports to mount a fat32 hd as a media drive. The atrix can work really well without its digitizer.
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I too am interested in this as I have an Atrix 4G with a broken screen. I was thinking about buying a device like the Roku or the MK802. I guess I could just get the Motorola Entertainment Center from Amazon.
Is there a ROM that would be best for the purpose of using the Atrix as a TV only device.
I posted a tutorial in general for using hdmi and tablet mode with the backlight for the digitizer off. This might give you ideas for using the hdmi port with or without your favorite hdmi enabled Moto dock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
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Hi All,
I want to mirror my le max 2 screen to tv via hdmi. I tried using a USB-c to HDMI cable with built in charging but it did not work. USB-c connected to my phone , hdmi connected to TV and USB connected to normal charger. Now some questions as
Q1. Does le max 2 support MHL?
Q2. If i go for HDMi dongle will it work does it support miracast? What about chromecast will it work?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Needs extra hardware and software
chetan_korde said:
Hi All,
I want to mirror my le max 2 screen to tv via hdmi. I tried using a USB-c to HDMI cable with built in charging but it did not work. USB-c connected to my phone , hdmi connected to TV and USB connected to normal charger. Now some questions as
Q1. Does le max 2 support MHL?
Q2. If i go for HDMi dongle will it work does it support miracast? What about chromecast will it work?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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There is no MHL hardware on the phone and typically MHL support drivers aren't open source so they won't work with CM.
Miracast is supposed to be supported, I don't have a receiver so I can't tell.
Chromecast isn't exactly screen mirroring, but there is no reason why it shouldn't support the limited functionality it targets.
What might work (haven't tried it with this phone yet) is connecting a DisplayLink adapter via USB. You'd need to install and run their application on top and there is a good chance it won't support stuff like 3D games, because it basically needs to copy, encode, compress etc. frame buffer contents and ship them over the USB interface as data while they are being reconverted into video on the DL hardware.
I think it's a real shame straight-forward HDMI ports got dropped on phones years ago. I'm pretty sure it was because vendors wanted to sell distinct settop devices and Hollywood didn't want "phone" content on TV screens, not because users didn't want them.
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There is no MHL hardware on the phone and typically MHL support drivers aren't open source so they won't work with CM.
Miracast is supposed to be supported, I don't have a receiver so I can't tell.
Chromecast isn't exactly screen mirroring, but there is no reason why it shouldn't support the limited functionality it targets.
What might work (haven't tried it with this phone yet) is connecting a DisplayLink adapter via USB. You'd need to install and run their application on top and there is a good chance it won't support stuff like 3D games, because it basically needs to copy, encode, compress etc. frame buffer contents and ship them over the USB interface as data while they are being reconverted into video on the DL hardware.
I think it's a real shame straight-forward HDMI ports got dropped on phones years ago. I'm pretty sure it was because vendors wanted to sell distinct settop devices and Hollywood didn't want "phone" content on TV screens, not because users didn't want them.
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Chromecast does support screen mirroring.