I apologize in advance for being a noob and asking a very very silly question. I'm new to the Android platform and want to learn.
Here we go. I'm impressed by the UI of Stock Android that can be seen on Nexus devices (Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, they look and work so cool). No lagging, no fancy TouchWiz or anything. But Samsung Galaxy S2 has this touchwiz thingy. I recently got to know that the UI that I love (stock Android) is a part of CM10 (I mean, CM10 looks very much like it, and has added functionality compared to stock Android), and it can be installed on the Galaxy S2. Now there are a few things:
If I get an S2 and install CM10 on it,
- Will it be free of major bugs (there are a few bugs in every OS). But will it perform like the OS on those Nexus devices?
- Would it be a better decision, compared to getting a Nexus device (I don't want the Nexus 4 for some reason, and Galaxy Nexus, well, has slightly low-end hardware).
- Also, I was preferring a Nexus device only for the stock Android look and experience, but if I can get that on a rather flagship phone, why go for a Nexus?
I'll ask more questions once you fine folks post some replies. Please help me out... Thanks, help will be appreciated in non-Androidish terms (though I'm technically sound in all aspects, but i'm a noob when it comes to Android).
Thanks in advance
if you want bug free stock android buy a nexus *period*
gs 2 will have issues with future android updates sadly we havnt got butter on cm10 even after about 6 months of development
bluefa1con said:
if you want bug free stock android buy a nexus *period*
gs 2 will have issues with future android updates sadly we havnt got butter on cm10 even after about 6 months of development
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Thanks! What about other Custom ROMs? Are there any ones out there (apart from CM10) which look, feel, and work like Stock Android?
(not worth asking, but preferably with less bugs?)
iPhoneNexus said:
Thanks! What about other Custom ROMs? Are there any ones out there (apart from CM10) which look, feel, and work like Stock Android?
(not worth asking, but preferably with less bugs?)
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Bro in all honesty, CM10 is actually pretty good for this device and you probably wont really notice much of the bugs (ok there are some annoying niggly issues with the audio but definitely not a deal breaker or anything major, you might not even notice it) and it is a good alternative to AOSP (nexus roms). Yes project butter does not work but the ROM is still damn fast considering that its not implemented "yet".
Another good Nexus type ROM is AOKP, for me this is the better ROM because it has some damn fine swagger, and you will see what I mean if you install it. It is based of CM10 sources so very similar but still unique. Personally bro I would only stick with these two as they are very good quality ROM's, unfortunately as mentioned before, we are stuck with incomplete sources due to Samsung withholding them so we wont have fully stable ROM's until this is released.
My sincere advice is to buy galaxy nexus or nexus 4 if you can. Else I advice you to use CM9 till the time Samsung releases essential sources to make CM10 work better. CM9 will give you much better battery life than CM10. As it is the battery life of S2 is not that great.
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Thanks for all the replies guys, really appreciated. Actually I'm getting a Galaxy Nexus and a Galaxy S2 at the same price (almost $345). Since S2 is much better (in terms of hardware) as far as I know, it has less issues, better battery life and so forth. All it lacks is the OS that I want in Galaxy nexus, and since you're telling me that AOKP is just as good as stock Android, I can put AOKP (or even CM9 or Cm10) on it and use it. I just want a Galaxy Nexus for the OS, not for the hardware. As a matter of fact, the hardware of Galaxy Nexus is quite disappointing, so that's why I'm preferring the S2. The only reason I'm asking the questions is: whather I can flash a nexus-like ROM on to it and have a nexus-like OS experience. Is that possible? And is it worth doing?
choose which you think is best
ShadowArany said:
choose which you think is best
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I'm confused, and that's why I'm asking here!
iPhoneNexus said:
Thanks for all the replies guys, really appreciated. Actually I'm getting a Galaxy Nexus and a Galaxy S2 at the same price (almost $345). Since S2 is much better (in terms of hardware) as far as I know, it has less issues, better battery life and so forth. All it lacks is the OS that I want in Galaxy nexus, and since you're telling me that AOKP is just as good as stock Android, I can put AOKP (or even CM9 or Cm10) on it and use it. I just want a Galaxy Nexus for the OS, not for the hardware. As a matter of fact, the hardware of Galaxy Nexus is quite disappointing, so that's why I'm preferring the S2. The only reason I'm asking the questions is: whather I can flash a nexus-like ROM on to it and have a nexus-like OS experience. Is that possible? And is it worth doing?
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AOSP (in this case CM10) is already good enough to use, and you won't find major bugs as mentioned before (IF you can find them as you don't sound like a really heavy user but I could be wrong). So why waste money on a device if the S2 has better hardware?
AOKP is a modified version based on AOSP, but indeed has a lot more options.
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Get a Sensation. Pretty much has a bug-free version of CM10 JB 4.1.2 and various renditions of it (MIUI, PA and even a fully-fledged stock AOSP ROM)
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Jikstah said:
Get a Sensation. Pretty much has a bug-free version of CM10 JB 4.1.2 and various renditions of it (MIUI, PA and even a fully-fledged stock AOSP ROM)
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Because you think the S2 doesn't have these..?
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Donnie Sins said:
Because you think the S2 doesn't have these..?
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Probably, sorry for the lack of knowledge. The mood of the thread said otherwise.
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Probably, sorry for the lack of knowledge. The mood of the thread said otherwise.
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I can understand your thinking, but I think the development is both probably in the same stage
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Whats the chance of getting CM7 on the SGS2?
Is the SGS a fully supported CM7 phone?
I'm a HTC man myself (DHD atm), but the SGS2 is looking mildly tempting due to the AMOLED screen, loud speaker and great .mkv playback capabilities as I watch quite a bit of video.
I am leaning more towards the Sensation due to the 16:9 qHD screen and the fact I've never been let down by a HTC device yet.
But I've really got used to CM7. Whilst I'm sure the Sensation will get CM7 on it... at some point, I reckon the SGS2 will get it first.
It's a big hmmmmmmmm from me atm
Very doubtfull you will see any custom roms on HTC now mate because there locking bootloaders
The device hasn't even been rooted yet but I'd say it's only a matter of time. If it's a deciding factor for you then hang fire but I'm actually quite liking touchwiz 4 and that's something I never thought I'd say.
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We will need scource
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We will need scource
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Samsung is very good about releasing source, just check http://opensource.samsung.com they will post the source within a few weeks I'm sure.
sorry to ask this noob question, but why do you need cm7 on this phone? is it laggy? lacking features ?
NIK516 said:
sorry to ask this noob question, but why do you need cm7 on this phone? is it laggy? lacking features ?
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Because this forum is for developers and development of ROMs, otherwise why would you be on this forum
some people want root regardless as they like to tinker.
also enables useful features like
titanium backup / Clock recovery so you can easily backup/clone your phone state
overclock (speed) / undervolt (battery)
CIFs for mounting windows shares or presenting itself as a windows share (very useful esp over wifi, look ma no cables)
get rid of touchwiz and other preinstalled stuff (I haven't used touchwiz 4 but I like stock android and I'm a speed freak)
I never rooted/custom ROMed my nexus one (as I love stock android) but it was the first thing I did to my galaxy tab and will be the first on my list with any non stock android phone
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Whats the chance of getting CM7 on the SGS2?
Is the SGS a fully supported CM7 phone?
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There's a chance it might get cm7 but it'll require a lot of work, the current sgs has cm7 but its still in alpha stage since samsung doesn't release the source for its proprietary drivers, everything has to be made from scratch(ie. time consuming). I don't think anyone whose working on cm7 for the sgs wants to do this again.
vinokirk said:
Whats the chance of getting CM7 on the SGS2?
Is the SGS a fully supported CM7 phone?
I'm a HTC man myself (DHD atm), but the SGS2 is looking mildly tempting due to the AMOLED screen, loud speaker and great .mkv playback capabilities as I watch quite a bit of video.
I am leaning more towards the Sensation due to the 16:9 qHD screen and the fact I've never been let down by a HTC device yet.
But I've really got used to CM7. Whilst I'm sure the Sensation will get CM7 on it... at some point, I reckon the SGS2 will get it first.
It's a big hmmmmmmmm from me atm
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all upcoming HTC devices will have locked bootloader, plus i strongly doubt we're going to see CM7 on SGS2 since Samsung doesnt release (or at least not so far) the source code of the drivers.
wait, does this mean no custom ROMs for SGS2 or rather they will just be less drastic modifications?
for example I don't think the galaxy tab custom ROMs use written from scratch drivers.
sorry new to custom roms.
There will be plenty of custom ROMS. Just not AOSP rom anytime soon.
Basically with AOSP you will loose a lot which includes all the multimedia capabilities ( ability to play many containers and codecs natively with hardware acceleration ), hardware GPU acceleration in browser, probably MHL link and HD recording.
There are very few people who will be ready to give up all this to get AOSP rom for this phone.
well it's rooted already isn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lVft5HoKP8
but re CM7 .. again ..why? i use custom sense roms for my desire but CM7 and it's god awful cam ... yeh ..no thanks.
vinokirk said:
Whats the chance of getting CM7 on the SGS2?
Is the SGS a fully supported CM7 phone?
I'm a HTC man myself (DHD atm), but the SGS2 is looking mildly tempting due to the AMOLED screen, loud speaker and great .mkv playback capabilities as I watch quite a bit of video.
I am leaning more towards the Sensation due to the 16:9 qHD screen and the fact I've never been let down by a HTC device yet.
But I've really got used to CM7. Whilst I'm sure the Sensation will get CM7 on it... at some point, I reckon the SGS2 will get it first.
It's a big hmmmmmmmm from me atm
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Man,never been a big fan of CM Roms,have moved to MIUI Froyo Rom{now with Formels MIUI Android 2.3 Rom},,tried CM many times but battery drain & other force close issues were in plenty.MIUI works best with my Nexus 1,,extremely fast,smooth,less battery drain ROM.
As far as Sensation goes,i hope it will be rooted,also it will be by June end when both SGS 2 & Senation will be launched in my region,so will have clear idea as to which one is getting more devs support{as xda support is what is most important for me rather than the phone itself}.
Have such a great time with N1.
NIK516 said:
sorry to ask this noob question, but why do you need cm7 on this phone? is it laggy? lacking features ?
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Not only Cyanogen,there are various different devs with their custom roms,but CM is used in most of the droids.
Samsung Galaxy S has a pathetic lag issue/faulty gps issue.
Even after so many lagfixes & workaround{in various roms},it still is very fragile.
Therefore you will definitely see people asking about SGS 2 lag issue or any GPS issue{hopefully GPS is great here in SGS 2 by default compare to quite pathetic in SGS}
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Very doubtfull you will see any custom roms on HTC now mate because there locking bootloaders
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That being said, I'm sure (hope) some boffin will get custom ROMs on there at some point!
steve228uk said:
The device hasn't even been rooted yet but I'd say it's only a matter of time. If it's a deciding factor for you then hang fire but I'm actually quite liking touchwiz 4 and that's something I never thought I'd say.
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I'm not a fan of Sense/TW et al, but I love ADW Ex. I know I can still use ADW Ex on the SGS2 but it would make me feel better inside knowing that I have a totally AOSP ROM ands not ADW running ontop of the TW stuff
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sorry to ask this noob question, but why do you need cm7 on this phone? is it laggy? lacking features ?
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As I said, I'm a HTC fan, but one thing I am not is a Sense fan! I can only presume that will extend to TW, although I have never tried it. I also like to run my phone at 190dpi instead of the standard 240dpi that most phones run at. And with Sense at least, when you change to anything other than 240dpi, it does not like it one bit!
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well it's rooted already isn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lVft5HoKP8
but re CM7 .. again ..why? i use custom sense roms for my desire but CM7 and it's god awful cam ... yeh ..no thanks.
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It's not rooted... it's bootloader unlocked. Not the same. Bootloader unlocked can lead you to root, root can't lead you to bootloader unlocking.
Hi, i have two questions for you, because i don't know what to do...
- the first one : Android 4.0 will be released for this phone ?
- the second one : is it possible to have an official version of Android gingerbread without Touchwiz for the galaxy S II ? ( i don't very like Touchwiz )
I ask you this questions because i don't know if it's better to wait the nexus prime, or to buy this phone... ( sorry for my english, i'm not very good )
Thank you !
1. Yes, probably
2. CM7 is already available, think of it as souped-up AOSP
If you can wait then go for the nexus prime, but there'll always be something better around the corner and the SGS2 is the best out there for the meanwhile
Ill probably be getting the samsung g note but I wonder will the nexus prime have a removable sd card.
thank you for your answers ! i think i will buy the galaxy ! but one last question : the CyanogenMod roms aren't stable yet ?
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thank you for your answers ! i think i will buy the galaxy ! but one last question : the CyanogenMod roms aren't stable yet ?
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They're stable enough, as most users would agree, but there are other AOSP ROMs out there that are pure Android, without any CM stuff. It depends what you want, obviously, but if you're after pure Android (as on a Nexus, for example) then that's available and working very well.
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Hi, i have two questions for you, because i don't know what to do...
- the first one : Android 4.0 will be released for this phone ?
- the second one : is it possible to have an official version of Android gingerbread without Touchwiz for the galaxy S II ? ( i don't very like Touchwiz )
I ask you this questions because i don't know if it's better to wait the nexus prime, or to buy this phone... ( sorry for my english, i'm not very good )
Thank you !
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Did you ever use and Android based phone before? Install different launcher and get rid of TW. Root your phone and delete samsung based apps with Root Uninstaller. That's it
if you don't like touchwiz you don't need to switch the rom, just search the market for a launcher that suits your liking and customize it to your preference.
i dont think touchwiz sucks that bad. but i wanted to have more control over how the app drawer sorts apps, so i downloaded go launcher ex (completely free) and i got what i want.
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They're stable enough, as most users would agree, but there are other AOSP ROMs out there that are pure Android, without any CM stuff. It depends what you want, obviously, but if you're after pure Android (as on a Nexus, for example) then that's available and working very well.
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that's exactly what i'm looking for ! can you tell me what person does that with gingerbread please ?
thank you for your answers, i think my choice is made because of you !
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that's exactly what i'm looking for ! can you tell me what person does that with gingerbread please ?
thank you for your answers, i think my choice is made because of you !
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I had this for a while, before I tried and fell in love with MIUI...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183063&highlight=aosp
It worked great for me, with no issues. All you need to know to flash it is right there in the 1st post
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I had this for a while, before I tried and fell in love with MIUI...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183063&highlight=aosp
It worked great for me, with no issues. All you need to know to flash it is right there in the 1st post
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Thank you very much ! but unfortunately there is only in english but it's ok i'll teach !
Touchwiz 4 is awesome.... By far the best launcher.
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chrisjcks said:
Touchwiz 4 is awesome.... By far the best launcher.
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+1 I love TouchWiz 4.0. It's fast, smooth and looks awesome. In addition, I love using some of the widgets that are TouchWiz only. Also if you are a TouchWiz user, you can download an app called Appzorter to alphabetize your app drawer (only works on root though). I've tried other launchers and none of them seem to be as fluid as Touchwiz is.
personnaly, i think touchwiz is not very beautiful, the galaxy seems to be an old phone with that. i prefer the style of android, but it's my opinion.
Sounds like your comparing touchwiz 4 to touchwiz 3 in the galaxy i9000.
Touchwiz 4 is silky smooth compared to any other launcher and adds great functionality compared to an standard android device.
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personnaly, i think touchwiz is not very beautiful, the galaxy seems to be an old phone with that. i prefer the style of android, but it's my opinion.
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I'm a fan of pure Android too, but it obviously doesn't hurt to try all the alternatives out there. As I said ealier I use MIUI, but it's very much NOT pure Android, although built on an AOSP ROM. CM is also built from the ground up, and that's very popular. Your best bet is to just forget what you already know and try what's out there, because there are some great ROMs available. Just bear in mind that a lot of them are simply tweaked Samsung ROMs, and nothing "new" (no disrespect meant to the developers - purely an observation).
I hated the look of MIUI before I tried it because it looked like someone just wanted Android to look like the iPhone, but trying it really showed me how wrong it was. I just guess it's the same with all ROMs. Don't take anyone's word for it - try it for yourself.
Hi all,
First of all, I'm amazed and gobsmacked at how much work all the devs put into their respective ROM's, it's amazing the effort and hard work ppl put in. Passion is alive and well on XDA
Now, to business. I have my Galaxy SII, a Galaxy S, and an Acer Iconia A500. I've flashed them all with their respective ICS. I would think (and hope) that probably out of all of them, the SII has the biggest dev base and most power. The ICS ROMs for the A500 and S are almost perfect. They run completely vanilla with no or almost no bloat, they look and behave the same (icons for network activity inside the bars for example, contacts app looks the same) and have had no hiccups whatsoever.
Come the SII, the only ROMs I've seen are cooked from Samsung sources with their phone and contacts apps, they crash and reboot and if it weren't that I have gone past the point of no return in regard to effort I'd have gone back to Gingerbread days ago.
Is anyone out there developing a completely vanilla "Google" rom that isn't themed to look like ICS, but actually uses the ICS apps etc. I can't understand how the Iconia and SI can have this while the SII seemingly doesn't.
Can anyone open my eyes on this? I'd love to get something as stable onto my SII as I have with my other devices, ICS is brilliant to use on them...and barely bearable on my beloved SII.
Cheers
<:3)~
Ummmm correct me if I am wrong but that's exactly what the CM team are trying yo to do....
And you can already download and install that, so long as you are happy with the bugs at present.
Unless you meant something else???
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You miss reading the cm9 thread. Check it out....its still alpha.
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I'm more curious about the fact I would have thought the SII having a bigger user and dev base...certainly more than the A500 I thought it would have the most stable and mature code base - yet it seems the opposite is true.
I've been running 4.0.3 on my SI for weeks now and its never bugged out. Installed the A500...and Oh wow its like a brand new tablet!! I wonder is it because of Exynos or some other reason we can't have the same stability and performance right now.
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Your ignorance and disrespect is pretty bad (even if you don't mean it). I think you should do some reading for a while and get yourself acquainted with what's involved.
I didn't ask this to be dissed by someone...I'm sure even you would agree the development cycle and challenges for all three devices would be similar given they all use different processors. So is it easier to compile for the A8 and Tegra than the A9?
I have been looking and downloading a number of ROMs...and if someone has created a ROM in a similar vein to Thor's on the A500 and Onecosmic's on the SI, well I'd be grateful for the heads up...in fact I'm just about to download and test the Pure ROM I just spied over in dev...so see how that goes. Still I'd be happy for someones *constructive* input.
Of course I'm claiming ignorance...if I knew I wouldn't ask...geez lol
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It's a wonder no one bothers doing a straight AOSP compile for any device, really. CyanogenMod comes the closest. There are a few people who played with doing a straight AOSP, but they base it off CM's work and strip out the extras.
When I wanted the AOSP experience with Gapps, I installed CM7 on my SGS and installed the stock Gingerbread launcher. It was the closest I got.
Trebuchet is basically the stock ICS launcher with features added, so it won't be so bad. You can also replace it with the stock launcher as well.
Try Airbus 360s ics rom that's aosp and is fantastic he should be releasing beta 2 tonight.
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haha I bet that confused ya
You're question is a bit noob so don't expect much answers.
Here is a short one to sum it for you:
AOSP - Pure android base without modification.
CM - almost pure with modifications.
STOCK - Hardware Manufacturer (eg. Samsung's) "official originated" release.
Stock - can have it all. CAUSE - Samsung has sources and support/docs for ALL hardware API of the device.
CM/STOCK - While there are some changes BOTH use the same origin.
To sum it, for proper functionality BOTH use SAME kernel/libs base.
So if some hardware functionality broken in one it'll be broken in other =
If CM9 haz no h/w decoding === APPLIES for AOSP.
Another thing to keep in mind, CM9 currently is in the process of adding CM features so current builds are very close to AOSP with functionality.
SUM IT UP:
if (CM9 != working) AOSP.isNotWorking()!
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if (CM9 != working) AOSP.isNotWorking()!
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That's a piece of horrible code, dude
I am looking into buying a new phone outright at full price and was wondering what are everyone's opinions on this debate.
I was looking at the Nexus and the biggest advantage seems to be the larger HD screen, that and the fact that it has a stock ICS build on it, without Samsungs TouchWiz that I hate so much. But, after looking at the F1 GalaxyNexus rom, I am almost turned more towards the S2, despite the fact that it has a lower resolution screen.
Now, does ICS with F1 GalaxyNexus on the GS2 perform just as well if not a little better than that of ICS on the Nexus? Overall, the GS2 has an 8mp camera, also, from looking at review and whatnot, it seems to be slightly more responsive than the Nexus despite very similar if not the same specs.
Basically, all I want is to get a few opinions on which you guys would choose, GS2 with F1 GalaxyNexus or a stock Galaxy Nexus.
Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
i would say go with galaxy nexus if you cant be bothered with bugs and want timely updates(though s2 will get it once xplod completes his kernel)
go with gs2 if you want a powerful phone that can handle future apps and games without a problem
winner : GS2
bluefa1con said:
i would say go with galaxy nexus if you cant be bothered with bugs and want timely updates(though s2 will get it once xplod completes his kernel)
go with gs2 if you want a powerful phone that can handle future apps and games without a problem
winner : GS2
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I am switching to Android as I currently own a Samsung Focus with Windows Phone 7.5. Don't get me wrong, Windows Phone 7.5 is a great OS, but it is not customizable even in the slightest. I previously had an HD2 and LOVED putting different ROMs on it whenever I got bored with how the phone was. So, what I am saying is that I'm getting into Android simply for the ability to customize and tinker with anything that I want. So bugs will not really bother me. Thank you for your reply!
good to have you here
here are the remaining bugs that team hacksung is currently working to fix
the usual stuff is working http://teamhacksung.org/wiki/index.php/CyanogenMod9:GT-I9100:Nightly:Known_issues
this is the cyanogen mod 9 thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419102
i would suggest that if u want a aosp rom stay on cm9 because bugs are fixed on it first than the other rom makers patch their builds
As its a question its in the wrong forum . Buy a Nokia .
jje
Honest question, not trying to incite argument. I'm really lost as to why so many people so passionately want jelly bean on our device. The only explanation I can come up with is it's newer so it's better. But my understanding of the changes is also very limited, so I get that I'm not exactly an authority on the subject.
I run BS X with flapp's 3.0 kernel and Nova Launcher using JB animations. Battery life is great. Animations are smooth. Flash works perfectly, and I get ICS Browser+. Bumping up to JB, I would immediately, arguably, lose two of those features (I find flash is flaky on JB). So, I guess what I'm getting at is, all I see, personally, are disadvantages to upgrading -- what are the advantages? Are there some great apps that only work on jelly bean? Other than project butter, was there a major development? Why are people so concerned about JB when we have extremely fast, stable ICS roms?
I think it's mostly just human nature at play. People always crave what they can't have. Or they want the next best thing. Those desires, plus greed, are what move societies along the development continuum. I'm not trying to make this a bad thing - its how we move forward. I just can't stand the crying and complaining from some.
Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
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Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
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LMAO!!!! Posted that on Facebook, nice reply Flapps
Project Butter or Buffer
Anthony820 said:
Honest question, not trying to incite argument. I'm really lost as to why so many people so passionately want jelly bean on our device. The only explanation I can come up with is it's newer so it's better. But my understanding of the changes is also very limited, so I get that I'm not exactly an authority on the subject.
I run BS X with flapp's 3.0 kernel and Nova Launcher using JB animations. Battery life is great. Animations are smooth. Flash works perfectly, and I get ICS Browser+. Bumping up to JB, I would immediately, arguably, lose two of those features (I find flash is flaky on JB). So, I guess what I'm getting at is, all I see, personally, are disadvantages to upgrading -- what are the advantages? Are there some great apps that only work on jelly bean? Other than project butter, was there a major development? Why are people so concerned about JB when we have extremely fast, stable ICS roms?
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If you ever played with a JB device everything is smooth and fast.
The advances made to the drop down window are worth it alone.
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Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
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I would definitely agree with that statement
sent from my Samsung galaxy s 3 running Jellybean 4.2.1
Project butter, Google now, Google keeps giving.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
I couldn't care less about project butter..smoothness is nice, but I'm not kid. I don't need to show up my iPhone carrying friends with how amazingly my phone transitions from swipe to swipe...
Google now however...now that is worth an upgrade.
While I am so greatfull that some excellent devs have brought a half decent port to ICS ROMs...it is just that- half decent compared to it's current incarnation on job ROMs.
If there is one thing that saddens me about us being no longer in line to receive official JB on our phones, it's that we may never see the latest enhancements to GN. We have to hope that some poor, glutton for punishment dev, takes up the cause and brings us these. Unfortunately, from what I've read, this will require a complete overhaul and will need to be started from the ground up as Google has made a lot of changes to bring greater speed and functionality to search...My understanding is that, at present, there is no dev crazy enough to undertake this...
Although....ahem....cough...cough.....I have ....on occasion, ....you know....kinda questioned flapjaxxx's sanity:laugh:
If anyone can...FJ can...
but he still needs source, or it's a dead stick....
My wife has the Note2, and I gotta say, that it's a smooth and sweet running machine on Official JB.
I've always viewed ICS as the "windows ME" version of android...runs ok, but just kinda glitchy, and ultimately the stepping stone for the next generation of good software.
JB official is some badazz software...IMHO....g
I second that!!!
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I have the 4.1.2 leak on my skyrocket. Smooth. And that's with touch wiz. The newer touch wiz also brings a lot of nice features with it too. Granted, I don't have room to speak on the glories of touch wiz as I write this on agnex. 4.1 and 4.2 are sweet. This thing tells me more than I need to know with Google now. Downside is Google now is a battery sucking whore.
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VonEsch said:
I have the 4.1.2 leak on my skyrocket. Smooth. And that's with touch wiz. The newer touch wiz also brings a lot of nice features with it too. Granted, I don't have room to speak on the glories of touch wiz as I write this on agnex. 4.1 and 4.2 are sweet. This thing tells me more than I need to know with Google now. Downside is Google now is a battery sucking whore.
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oh, so THAT's why my battery dies in record time. I loss 10% while drawing a picture