Loaded question here, but please bear with me...
I have a friend with an i717, still on Android 2.3. He wants to get to ICS for some of the features there and wants root for WiFi tethering and app+data backups. Since he is not very proficient in technical matters, I am going to do this for him next week. I'd like to keep him on stock rooted ICS that way he's not always asking me about potential custom ROM issues, etc.
I have never owned/rooted a Samsung Andriod (always been a HTC guy, and wife has Motorola), so my knowledge of Samsung rooting is limited, but I understand adb, custom recoveries, etc. I have downloaded Odin, ATTGalaxyNoteRootICS.zip, and I717UCLF6_I717ATTLF6_ATT.zip (I believe this is stock ICS). I did a 'basic' backup of his phone apps and data using MyBackup Pro.
The $1m question: Should I/Can I first upgrade to stock ICS and then root, or should I root and then load ICS (and if need be, root again)?
It would be nice to keep his phone's current config without having to do a full wipe at all, but my theory is if I must wipe, I'd like to have root access first so I can backup his apk+data.
Use Samsung app on your PC to upgrade to ICS. Then user Odin to root is what I diff yesterday. Look through the stickies on the general page to find the. Tar file to put in Odin
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My only issue is that the laptop I am using is on my work's Public network... I believe that the firewall is blocking the Samsung Kies from locating the ICS upgrade. (It sees the phone with 2.3, but doesn't show that there is a firmware upgrade.) I may try using my phone's WiFi tether, but just in case I can't get it working, I'd like a manual process for accomplishing what's needed.
So root GB and flash one of the "stock" rooted ROMs and be done with it.
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Yeah, but if I flash a "stock" rooted ROM, won't that wipe data?
If you go to update software in the settings can you still not download the ICS OTA update?
If you update ICS using ODIN you will lose all data. If you update using a stock rooted ROM you do not have to root first. You only need to install a custom recovery like Clockwork. You will not lose data with the stock rooted ROM approach as long as the ROM is not altered to wipe data. Haven't looked lately but there should be a completely unaltered stock ICS ROM available.
You could always just root gingerbread using this method:http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/ Then do all your backups. Install ICS and restore the apps.
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I loe this forum. I searched and found all kinds of threads with bits and pieces of the information I am looking for but here goes my question(s)...
I am on Android Version 2.3.6, Baseband Version I717UCLA1, Kernal Version 2.6.35.11 Build Number GINGERBREAD.UCLA1 and from what I believe I have done is I rooted my Note and stayed on the stock rom. I want to update to ICS and am curious regarding the best/easiest method?
1) Un-root, update to ICS via Kies, then root again?
2) Is there a way to just update to ICS without the process in number 1?
I am not really looking to flash roms. I am fine with the stock rom. I just need/want root for tethering.
Thank you for your help.
You're going to lose root when you update but it's just as easy to root ICS as it is GB.
Kies may also refuse to update unless you do so while the phone is in download mode.
I preferred flashing the ICS update via Odin. Smooth and painless.
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kinghorsey said:
You're going to lose root when you update but it's just as easy to root ICS as it is GB.
Kies may also refuse to update unless you do so while the phone is in download mode.
I preferred flashing the ICS update via Odin. Smooth and painless.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
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Thank you for the reply. I am aware I will lose root when I update. I guess I can/will do a backup in CMR and TiBackup? When I update, then root, then get superuser, I should be able to log into and run Tibackup Pro to load my app data? I don't know...the process seems daunting as there is no direct threads detailing how to complete and update from the situation I am in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
Everything you need is in the link:
Read, Read, Read......and happy flashing....g
Rooted Today
Rooted today and in ICS on my G note, I do not see the tethering apk. Only tethering provisions. I froze tethering provisions in Ti. Went to setting, more, tehtering and portable hotspot and every time I try to turn on Protable Wi-Fi hotspot I get a crash....black screen and an eventual msg that says unfortunately, setting has stopped. What can I do to get this working?
Thanks
GT-I9300 International No carrier
Current FW v 4.1.2
hxxp://i.imgur.com/DxDXONZ.png
Update Details
hxxp://i.imgur.com/18JE68Z.jpg
Phone Rooted using CF-Auto-Root
SuperSU and Busybox installed
CWM not installed
Using Stock ROM
Using Stock Kernel
As you can see Kies has prompted me an update and the update seems to have already downloaded OTA using WiFi.
It is prompting me to install the update again and again.
My question is, if I do select to install this update,
1.) Will it remove root?
2.) Will it completely wipe my phone? (previous incremental updates haven't wiped my data, but the phone wasn't rooted then.)
3.) Can I root again using CF-Auto-Root?
Thank you.
Jaxx89 said:
GT-I9300 International No carrier
Current FW v 4.1.2
hxxp://i.imgur.com/DxDXONZ.png
Update Details
hxxp://i.imgur.com/18JE68Z.jpg
Phone Rooted using CF-Auto-Root
SuperSU and Busybox installed
CWM not installed
Using Stock ROM
Using Stock Kernel
As you can see Kies has prompted me an update and the update seems to have already downloaded OTA using WiFi.
It is prompting me to install the update again and again.
My question is, if I do select to install this update,
1.) Will it remove root?
AS per thousands of posts YES.
2.) Will it completely wipe my phone? (previous incremental updates haven't wiped my data, but the phone wasn't rooted then.)
NO
3.) Can I root again using CF-Auto-Root?
YES
All this is posted multiple times .
jje
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JJEgan said:
Jaxx89 said:
GT-I9300 International No carrier
Current FW v 4.1.2
hxxp://i.imgur.com/DxDXONZ.png
Update Details
hxxp://i.imgur.com/18JE68Z.jpg
Phone Rooted using CF-Auto-Root
SuperSU and Busybox installed
CWM not installed
Using Stock ROM
Using Stock Kernel
As you can see Kies has prompted me an update and the update seems to have already downloaded OTA using WiFi.
It is prompting me to install the update again and again.
My question is, if I do select to install this update,
1.) Will it remove root?
AS per thousands of posts YES.
2.) Will it completely wipe my phone? (previous incremental updates haven't wiped my data, but the phone wasn't rooted then.)
NO
3.) Can I root again using CF-Auto-Root?
YES
All this is posted multiple times .
jje
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Sorry about that. Maybe my searching skills aren't good enough or maybe I don't know how to use this forum coz I found only one thread that too with a Gingerbread FW, which is why I posted this Q
Really sorry.
Thanks for the quick reply.
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Device status modified and cannot update
tried using triangle away and did not reset the flash counter
Because triangle away can reset your flash counter only if you're running stock recovery, stock kernel, stock rom etc.
CF-AutoRoot should not make your status "modified" but probably like you see it did. Maybe some other apps did that, maybe not, nobody knows anyway. If you really need these updates then you should flash newest firmware from samsung through odin and then root it + reset flash counter, it should work also for further updates (but I'm not sure).
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Because triangle away can reset your flash counter only if you're running stock recovery, stock kernel, stock rom etc.
CF-AutoRoot should not make your status "modified" but probably like you see it did. Maybe some other apps did that, maybe not, nobody knows anyway. If you really need these updates then you should flash newest firmware from samsung through odin and then root it + reset flash counter, it should work also for further updates (but I'm not sure).
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Thanks a lot.
I know where to get the FW updates to flash via Odin but don't really understand how to reset the flash counter if not by using TriangleAway.
Could you please be kind enough to guide me?
And these are the apps I used after root
SuperSU
Busybox
Root checker
Titanium Backup
Lucky patcher
Market enabler
Greenify
Could any of these apps modify the stock kernel, rom or recovery? Coz I never flashed any custom ones just rooted using CF-Auto-Root and installed the root apps
P.S: I was able to do the FW update via Kies and now the status is back to normal, but I'm afraid to root coz the status might go back to modified.
It's more like, you know. If we're talking about warranty then they'll find that your rooted your phone anyway. If we're talking about updates then probably it's still better to keep an eye on some stock-based custom roms, mostly because of frequent updates (nearly instantly after new baseband), while you still need to wait some time for OTA to arrive. Of course it's much easier to apply OTA than whole custom rom but hey, how often are you doing that?
About your question - busybox is my choice because it modifies /system apps, many of them.
And lastly - in odin you have a checkbox to reset flash counter, so you don't need to worry about anything using this tool. At least in general.
Overall I'd stick with pure stock non-rooted firmware if you don't need it in general or rooted custom rom (f.e. mine ) for much better experience. I couldn't go back to stock after getting used to much better performance, less battery drain etc.
Choice is yours.
Lucky patcher
Warez is totally banned on XDA you are stealing from developers .
As its a warez app who knows what sort of malware it could add to your phone .
I would wipe the phone install original firmware .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978840
Then update it and to stick with unrooted stock .
jje
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It's more like, you know. If we're talking about warranty then they'll find that your rooted your phone anyway. If we're talking about updates then probably it's still better to keep an eye on some stock-based custom roms, mostly because of frequent updates (nearly instantly after new baseband), while you still need to wait some time for OTA to arrive. Of course it's much easier to apply OTA than whole custom rom but hey, how often are you doing that?
About your question - busybox is my choice because it modifies /system apps, many of them.
And lastly - in odin you have a checkbox to reset flash counter, so you don't need to worry about anything using this tool. At least in general.
Overall I'd stick with pure stock non-rooted firmware if you don't need it in general or rooted custom rom (f.e. mine ) for much better experience. I couldn't go back to stock after getting used to much better performance, less battery drain etc.
Choice is yours.
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Thanks for the quick response
I rooted mainly coz I needed to use market enabler
In Odin are you referring to the option F. Reset time??
I am using the Odin version provided by Chainfire in his S3 rooting thread in which all options are disabled except for Auto reboot.
@JJEgan I don't even know how to use half of the apps I mentioned, I only installed them as my friend suggested it as must have root apps.
As you might see, I am still a N00b at this and am in the learning process.
BTW Thanks for the link to the guide.
Jaxx89 said:
Thanks for the quick response
I rooted mainly coz I needed to use market enabler
In Odin are you referring to the option F. Reset time??
I am using the Odin version provided by Chainfire in his S3 rooting thread in which all options are disabled except for Auto reboot.
@JJEgan I don't even know how to use half of the apps I mentioned, I only installed them as my friend suggested it as must have root apps.
As you might see, I am still a N00b at this and am in the learning process.
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I suggest going through my flashing guide located in ArchiDroid thread, with newest odin and newest methods for flashing/rooting.
JustArchi said:
I suggest going through my flashing guide located in ArchiDroid thread, with newest odin and newest methods for flashing/rooting.
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Thanks a lot.
If I'm not mistaken, ArchiDroid is a Custom ROM(pre-rooted) which requires a Custom Recovery.
I will be learning a bit more first before I install a Custom ROM.
A question though. Will I have to take a backup of my app data if I decide to install a custom ROM?
Also if I want to install the stock FW via Odin, will I have to take a backup first?
Thanks and I'm really sorry about asking such questions.
Jaxx89 said:
Thanks a lot.
If I'm not mistaken, ArchiDroid is a Custom ROM(pre-rooted) which requires a Custom Recovery.
I will be learning a bit more first before I install a Custom ROM.
A question though. Will I have to take a backup of my app data if I decide to install a custom ROM?
Also if I want to install the stock FW via Odin, will I have to take a backup first?
Thanks and I'm really sorry about asking such questions.
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Yes it requires custom recovery for installing .zip package.
There is nothing to learn if you ask me, you have complete guide for installing everything you need in step-by-step howto. If you want to keep your data then you need to use some nice app for that f.e. Titanium Backup but for that you need root and... yeah. It's easier to start from scratch on new pre-rooted rom.
I'd suggest flashing custom recovery (tutorial in my topic) and then you can create a backup directly from that, with everything you want to, including actual system, efs folder, recovery, kernel etc. So you can easily get back to original rom whenever you want to. Keep in mind that you still need custom recovery for that.
JustArchi said:
Yes it requires custom recovery for installing .zip package.
There is nothing to learn if you ask me, you have complete guide for installing everything you need in step-by-step howto. If you want to keep your data then you need to use some nice app for that f.e. Titanium Backup but for that you need root and... yeah. It's easier to start from scratch on new pre-rooted rom.
I'd suggest flashing custom recovery (tutorial in my topic) and then you can create a backup directly from that, with everything you want to, including actual system, efs folder, recovery, kernel etc. So you can easily get back to original rom whenever you want to. Keep in mind that you still need custom recovery for that.
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Ok Now I'm really confused
I still haven't learnt how to use Titanium Backup to backup, or how to do a nandroid backup. I have read it's better to do a backup b4 installing a custom ROM. And if I'm not mistaken, I need ROOT to do a nandroid backup too.
As I said before that I used CF-Auto-Root, I just followed the instructions to the word.
I had tried doing a ADB backup before root, but for some reason it kept exiting(I guess coz I have just about 1GB memory left on my Internal memory SD card)
Thanks for the quick reply. Man ur really fast in answering questions. :good:
EDIT: Just did the CF-Auto_Root again and didn't install any other apps like busybox(uninstalled all root apps) and used triangleaway to reset the flash counter. But the counter still stuck on 1
The device status shows normal though.
Jaxx89 said:
Ok Now I'm really confused
I still haven't learnt how to use Titanium Backup to backup, or how to do a nandroid backup. I have read it's better to do a backup b4 installing a custom ROM. And if I'm not mistaken, I need ROOT to do a nandroid backup too.
As I said before that I used CF-Auto-Root, I just followed the instructions to the word.
I had tried doing a ADB backup before root, but for some reason it kept exiting(I guess coz I have just about 1GB memory left on my Internal memory SD card)
Thanks for the quick reply. Man ur really fast in answering questions. :good:
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First of all you need custom recovery to perform nandroid backups. So you can stick with my first 10 steps in my howto. After that enter recovery, enter backup section and make a custom backup (or default, doesn't matter) of everything you have, especially /efs folder as it's really important. When you finish doing backup then boot to your normal system and copy these backups to your PC. Now you're sure that they won't disappear and if you want to backup your phone from that then simply put them back on your phone and restore them from the recovery.
But overall I'd suggest clean start without these backups. Of course it's always recommended and I recommend it as well but as long as you won't want to go back to original rom, there is no real point for backing it up. You can always download latest official firmware and flash it through odin.
Hello All. I had installed SHOStock 3.0.1. Then I somehow thought that I will back ROM and that reminds me of ROM Manager which I installed ages back . Clicked on backup which restarted the phone and then phone didnt start ever. So I put back Stock Gingerbread UCKH7. But now after that when I am trying to update using AT&T software update, it is giving me error that software cannot be installed due to interrupation. When I try to install from Kies, office laptop does not recongnize my phone. Home laptop do recongnize the phone but gives message that this version of Android is not supported to upgrade by Kies. I dont know how shall I proceed. When I try to install stock ICS downlaoded from some XDA thread using ODIN, it is not doing anything. Tried to use Exynos Abuse to root but not working. Any other tool to root? Is it ok to directly install some Jelly Bean ROM after root on Gingerbread or shall I go for ICS first then JB? PS: Tried to read thr' all stickies and Q & A but could not find proper answer. Thanks in Advance.
I hope you didn't do any permanent damage by using rom manager. If you did all the reading you mentioned, you probably saw, after the fact, the sticky thread warning not to use rom manager.
First, you can not do an over the air update any longer; the only way to update officially is via kies. Not sure what is blocking kies, but you might try entering 3e recovery and performing a wipe data/factory reset, then see if kies will install the update. You do have to be bone stock for kies to work, I think. Rooted may be ok. Not sure exactly what elements causes kies to fail.
I mention the possibility of damage because you say:
When I try to install stock ICS downlaoded from some XDA thread using ODIN, it is not doing anything.
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You should be able to flash any of the stock firmware via Odin.
If you want to go the custom firmware route, you can install a custom kernel, then use ClockworkMod Recovery to install your custom firmware. You should be able to do this from any version, Gingerbread, ICS or JB.
You can root by flashing one of the stock plus root packages. Exynos Abuse only worked with 4.0.3 I think. The exploit was patched. People have been using Framaroot to root stock 4.1.2, and I believe someone mentioned using it successfully on ICS as well. Results posted here have been mixed but generally successful.
There are several resources in the Download Repository. See the link in my signature.
Will try tonight
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I hope you didn't do any permanent damage by using rom manager. If you did all the reading you mentioned, you probably saw, after the fact, the sticky thread warning not to use rom manager.
First, you can not do an over the air update any longer; the only way to update officially is via kies. Not sure what is blocking kies, but you might try entering 3e recovery and performing a wipe data/factory reset, then see if kies will install the update. You do have to be bone stock for kies to work, I think. Rooted may be ok. Not sure exactly what elements causes kies to fail.
I mention the possibility of damage because you say:
You should be able to flash any of the stock firmware via Odin.
If you want to go the custom firmware route, you can install a custom kernel, then use ClockworkMod Recovery to install your custom firmware. You should be able to do this from any version, Gingerbread, ICS or JB.
You can root by flashing one of the stock plus root packages. Exynos Abuse only worked with 4.0.3 I think. The exploit was patched. People have been using Framaroot to root stock 4.1.2, and I believe someone mentioned using it successfully on ICS as well. Results posted here have been mixed but generally successful.
There are several resources in the Download Repository. See the link in my signature.
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Thanks. I will try tonight at home.
Try this to root if not already.. Framaroot.apk
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
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It worked
creepyncrawly said:
I hope you didn't do any permanent damage by using rom manager. If you did all the reading you mentioned, you probably saw, after the fact, the sticky thread warning not to use rom manager.
First, you can not do an over the air update any longer; the only way to update officially is via kies. Not sure what is blocking kies, but you might try entering 3e recovery and performing a wipe data/factory reset, then see if kies will install the update. You do have to be bone stock for kies to work, I think. Rooted may be ok. Not sure exactly what elements causes kies to fail.
I mention the possibility of damage because you say:
You should be able to flash any of the stock firmware via Odin.
If you want to go the custom firmware route, you can install a custom kernel, then use ClockworkMod Recovery to install your custom firmware. You should be able to do this from any version, Gingerbread, ICS or JB.
You can root by flashing one of the stock plus root packages. Exynos Abuse only worked with 4.0.3 I think. The exploit was patched. People have been using Framaroot to root stock 4.1.2, and I believe someone mentioned using it successfully on ICS as well. Results posted here have been mixed but generally successful.
There are several resources in the Download Repository. See the link in my signature.
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It worked.
I used your root to official ICS. Then I rooted Exynos to root. Thank you. Do I still need to have CWM after this? I am planning to install Helly Bean please let me know.,
guru1212 said:
It worked.
I used your root to official ICS. Then I rooted Exynos to root. Thank you. Do I still need to have CWM after this? I am planning to install Helly Bean please let me know.,
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Assuming that Helly Bean uses a CWM flashable zip file, as almost all rom's do, then you will need to install a custom kernel containing a CWM recovery. You can not flash rom's from stock recovery or Odin.
I have an Incredible 4g on Verizon that I acquired during the first week of release. I was fortunate enough to get it unlocked during the time when HTC allowed it from their site. I unlocked the phone, installed TWRP, and rooted my device (I'm not entirely sure how I did this).
It's been over a year now, and my phone is kind of sluggish. How can I go about updating this phone to the latest software? I'd settle for the latest OTA from Verizon, as long as I can keep it rooted.
I'm also willing to flash one of the other kernels, but I dont really have any experience flashing CM or Viper.
So what's the best way to go about doing this? How do you update an already rooted phone? Ideally I'd like to keep all apps/data during the update. Any information or links for how to update appreciated!
My phones details:
Android 4.0.3
HTC Sense 4.0
Software: 1.43.605.3.710RD
HTC SDK API: 4.11
it probably won't even install unless you return to stock recovery.
another poster already confirmed losing root after installing the update.
imo - the update is not worth it anyway. they other thread lists the changes... nothing significant.
if your phone is sluggish either find out what is causing it (app, etc), tweak performance using your root, or wipe it and start clean. i would not give up an unlocked, rooted device for this update.
j13smiley said:
it probably won't even install unless you return to stock recovery.
another poster already confirmed losing root after installing the update.
imo - the update is not worth it anyway. they other thread lists the changes... nothing significant.
if your phone is sluggish either find out what is causing it (app, etc), tweak performance using your root, or wipe it and start clean. i would not give up an unlocked, rooted device for this update.
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Is this just for stock updates, or for Viper/VM mods as well? I'm willing to step up to 4.3 or 4.4 with one of these custom ROMs, assuming I can keep root.
Is this a complicated process to install one of these custom ROMs (anything special since my phone is so "old")?
Will I have to wipe and install from scratch as well?
You can always clear your cache and davek cache to help improve speeds.
zackiv31 said:
Is this just for stock updates, or for Viper/VM mods as well? I'm willing to step up to 4.3 or 4.4 with one of these custom ROMs, assuming I can keep root.
Is this a complicated process to install one of these custom ROMs (anything special since my phone is so "old")?
Will I have to wipe and install from scratch as well?
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Installing a fresh/new ROM is very easy, and it will indeed require reinstalling apps. However, Look at getting Titanium Backup Root - I highly recommend the Pro version - you can back up all of your apps and data. Once performing a full TiB backup to your external SD card, you can wipe and install a fresh ROM, then restore any/all apps and data backed up with TiB. The app will pick up right where you backed it up, settings and all. You may need to re-set up a few apps (such as email settings).
If you like sense, I recommend ViperLTE. It's very close to stock Sense, but offers several great tweaks you can choose to use (or not). Installing it is easy if you have TWRP recovery installed. If you don't have TRWP installed, look at mdmower's thread for that recovery. I also highly recommend performing a full Nandroid backup to your external SD card before doing anything.
j13smiley said:
it probably won't even install unless you return to stock recovery.
another poster already confirmed losing root after installing the update.
imo - the update is not worth it anyway. they other thread lists the changes... nothing significant.
if your phone is sluggish either find out what is causing it (app, etc), tweak performance using your root, or wipe it and start clean. i would not give up an unlocked, rooted device for this update.
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Very true... I, too, lost root after OTA update. I've tried every method I could find to attempt to unlock bootloader now with update... even tried wipe and flash of stock RUU 2.17.605.2: unable to go back to older version due to updated bootloader (wouldn't let me load it).
It'd be nice if HTCdev simply updated for a .bin that'll work... I tried flashing unlock_code.bin from previous experiences... but wouldn't work either. Any rumors of a new method to unlock the new bootloader?
I rooted my phone to prevent KitKat from installing, because I didn't want to lose access to FoxFi. I forze the SDM file so it wouldnt look for updates. Today FoxFi has fixed the problem, so I no longer fell the need to be rooted, and I would very much like a taste of that KitKat. If I understand correctly I should not unfreeze the the SDM file and take the OTA update, because it could "brick my phone". Is that the case?
Do I need to unroot first, and is there a thread without a hundred pages that explains how to unroot. I am on Build VRUEMK2.
Thoughts?
Under the settings in the Superuser app is an option to "Full Unroot" Will this really work for unrooting the device, or do i need to do the odin thing i keep reading about? Why would odin even be necessary if this is an option. It seems to easy.
You will need to return your phone to stock, root will prevent the OTA. You can try to unfreeze SDM and take the update, it won't brick your phone, it will just fail to install because root will cause it to fail.
There are threads about using Odin and no-wipe MK2 or MJ7 files to return your phone to stock without losing data. That is the best way to roll your phone back to take the update. Alternatively, you could just do a factory reset from the stock recovery, but you'll lose all your data on the phone. Otherwise, you can just update using the Odin tars that are available now, but since it seems like you don't want to do the research on how to do that, you'd probably better not try.
Paramemetic said:
There are threads about using Odin and no-wipe MK2 or MJ7 files to return your phone to stock without losing data. That is the best way to roll your phone back to take the update. Alternatively, you could just do a factory reset from the stock recovery, but you'll lose all your data on the phone. Otherwise, you can just update using the Odin tars that are available now, but since it seems like you don't want to do the research on how to do that, you'd probably better not try.
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Thanks,
So you do not recommend or know about the "Full Unroot" option in the Superuser settings.
I do not mid a factory reset, as this is phone is only a month old. If it is that easy, I will probably go that route.
I am currently downloading a file called VRUAMDK_NoWipe.tar.zip which I understand to be a stock image of my android before i rooted that is supposed to take me back to pre-root. But if factory resetting will accomplish the same goal, then that seems like an easier way to go.
I do like the openness of being rooted, but My concern about updating with the root, is that some functions may not work like they are supposed to. I haven't been involved in rooting since the days of playing with my HTC Eris, and Droid X. Maybe things a re different today, but most roms I played with were found to have issues with thinks not functioning correctly. Do the 4.4 "tars" that you are referring to have all the functions?
I'd sit tight and see what comes from the latest tar files of NC5. Maybe nothing, but can't hurt to wait.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Free mobile app
Rageboardr said:
Thanks,
So you do not recommend or know about the "Full Unroot" option in the Superuser settings.
I do not mid a factory reset, as this is phone is only a month old. If it is that easy, I will probably go that route.
I am currently downloading a file called VRUAMDK_NoWipe.tar.zip which I understand to be a stock image of my android before i rooted that is supposed to take me back to pre-root. But if factory resetting will accomplish the same goal, then that seems like an easier way to go.
I do like the openness of being rooted, but My concern about updating with the root, is that some functions may not work like they are supposed to. I haven't been involved in rooting since the days of playing with my HTC Eris, and Droid X. Maybe things a re different today, but most roms I played with were found to have issues with thinks not functioning correctly. Do the 4.4 "tars" that you are referring to have all the functions?
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The no wipe image you are downloading is probably not the correct version for your phone unless you are still on the MDK firmware.
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jmgib said:
The no wipe image you are downloading is probably not the correct version for your phone unless you are still on the MDK firmware.
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Bummer, I was wondering about that after i started looking at different image names. I started seeing the common theme, and no I am not on MDK, I am on MK2. Bummer because that file took along time to download here at work.
kude87 said:
I'd sit tight and see what comes from the latest tar files of NC5. Maybe nothing, but can't hurt to wait.
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What is the difference between a tar file, and ROMing. Are TAR files more reliable?
I am in no real hurry, but as this is my daily phone, I need everything to work correctly, and no reason to wait if its like ROMs, and there seem to always be things that are quirky in a ROM.
Rageboardr said:
What is the difference between a tar file, and ROMing. Are TAR files more reliable?
I am in no real hurry, but as this is my daily phone, I need everything to work correctly, and no reason to wait if its like ROMs, and there seem to always be things that are quirky in a ROM.
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If it is your daily and you aren't in any hurry, I strongly suggest waiting it out. Read some forums and get a better feel about rooting and romming.
A tar file is flashed through Odin, and depending which one you download, could lock your bootloader (I forget which firmware you're on). I'd personally wait for/if NC5 is rooted and proceed then.
"Romming" is a broad term used to define flashing custom roms. Predominantly, this means you have an unlocked bootloader and are flashing zip files through a custom recovery.
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I rooted my phone to prevent KitKat from installing, because I didn't want to lose access to FoxFi. I forze the SDM file so it wouldnt look for updates. Today FoxFi has fixed the problem, so I no longer fell the need to be rooted, and I would very much like a taste of that KitKat. If I understand correctly I should not unfreeze the the SDM file and take the OTA update, because it could "brick my phone". Is that the case?
Do I need to unroot first, and is there a thread without a hundred pages that explains how to unroot. I am on Build VRUEMK2.
Thoughts?
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Hi I had the same issue. mk2, rooted, wanted to take the ota update and didn't mind losing root.
You won't brick trying to take the update it will just fail with error 402. I wrote out my steps below to guide you thru the process I used and were successful for me.
1. Unroot using SuperSU.
2. Use Kies to update/restore firmware on your PC.
3. Once rebooted search for system update.
4. Download and install the update. I did the whole process using only data no WiFi (not sure if it makes a difference but that's what I did).
5. Once your phone reboots you will be greeted by a lovely red Verizon splash screen.
Hope this helps you and others!
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