could someone give me some tips on removing the bloat from recovery or bootloader mode so i can get rid off all the crap. I am unlocked and rooted S-on
Sidewind75 said:
could someone give me some tips on removing the bloat from recovery or bootloader mode so i can get rid off all the crap. I am unlocked and rooted S-on
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You should be able to just remove some of the "bloat" .apk files through adb or a file manager application. That is all I did on my old Incredible.
mikeschuld said:
You should be able to just remove some of the "bloat" .apk files through adb or a file manager application. That is all I did on my old Incredible.
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I have tried through Root Explorer. but when i reboot it all comes back. I have heard because of S-on we cannot do anything to system exept through recovery or bootloader wich is why i asked
Sidewind75 said:
I have tried through Root Explorer. but when i reboot it all comes back. I have heard because of S-on we cannot do anything to system exept through recovery or bootloader wich is why i asked
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You are correct just wait, the phone just came out and I'm still waiting on the UPS man lol
only way i found to remove bloat was to make a flashable zip removing all the apks/odex files i wanted.
Bloatware Remover(flashable zip)--> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012388
Your best bet would be to use an app like titanium backup and freeze the bloat while on stock. Why I'm suggesting this is because when you delete the Apks and an update from verizon comes out you can run into problems. That way down the line if you do want to update without flashing a rom you can just unfreeze and not have to worry about finding the bloat and reinstalling for the update.
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rexdog1888 said:
Bloatware Remover(flashable zip)--> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012388
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If you do want to go through and remove the bloatware... What I did, was:
downloaded the flashable ZIP fromt he above thread
opened it with 7-Zip
found and extracted the file META-INF\com\google\android\updater-script
opened that file with notepad++ and went through and added all the .apk and .odex files I want gone (personal preference)
placed the file back in the ZIP
flashed the ZIP
bloat removed
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Ok so I have rooted my phone (I think -_-) with the method where I download the file and rename it to update.zip, put it in the internal storage on my phone, and then recovered.
I have the superuser app icon, then I downloaded ROM manager and flashed a recovery (I don't even know wtf this means) and then downloaded Android Mate and tried going to the system files and deleting the bunch of crap bloatware this came with. I select the ones I want to delete, and then click delete, then it says "files were deleted successfully" but they're still there?! I'm so hella confused.
1.) Why will android mate not delete these files? I gave it permission through superuser!
2.) How do I know for sure if my phone is rooted?
3.) How do I know if I have a backup? I don't intend to flash any ROMS or operating systems or whatever the hell (i'm just fine with the stock OS)
I'm soooo lost right now. I love this phone but I reallllly wanna remove the bloatware so I can start customizing it.
xKrazYx626 said:
Ok so I have rooted my phone (I think -_-) with the method where I download the file and rename it to update.zip, put it in the internal storage on my phone, and then recovered.
I have the superuser app icon, then I downloaded ROM manager and flashed a recovery (I don't even know wtf this means) and then downloaded Android Mate and tried going to the system files and deleting the bunch of crap bloatware this came with. I select the ones I want to delete, and then click delete, then it says "files were deleted successfully" but they're still there?! I'm so hella confused.
1.) Why will android mate not delete these files? I gave it permission through superuser!
2.) How do I know for sure if my phone is rooted?
3.) How do I know if I have a backup? I don't intend to flash any ROMS or operating systems or whatever the hell (i'm just fine with the stock OS)
I'm soooo lost right now. I love this phone but I reallllly wanna remove the bloatware so I can start customizing it.
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Hello,
I have never used AndroidMate but I can recommend Titanium Backup. You can search for the app (even system apps, so make sure you know what you want to delete) and delete it. If you buy the premium version you can even "freeze" them, as in they won't be deleted but they won't start up either (in case you change your mind later on).
Hope this helps.
I am totally new to smart phones but i am pretty savy on a computer. I rooted my thunderbloat using a one click root i found on this site but still cant remove the software I want. Anyone else have the same issue?
Are you using titanium backup to uninstall the bloat?
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ddgarcia05 said:
Are you using titanium backup to uninstall the bloat?
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I use Titanium Backup Pro and Freeze the apps for now...
If you have root, you can download Root Explorer from the app store. Use it to browse to the app directory and just delete the apps you don't want. Another option is to rename the unwanted apps. For example, change APPNAME.apk to APPNAME.apk.bk ... then it will be "hidden" from the system. Restore it at anytime by removing the ".bk" extension.
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Lipmonger said:
If you have root, you can download Root Explorer from the app store. Use it to browse to the app directory and just delete the apps you don't want. Another option is to rename the unwanted apps. For example, change APPNAME.apk to APPNAME.apk.bk ... then it will be "hidden" from the system. Restore it at anytime by removing the ".bk" extension.
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Is there a free version of root explorer? Or a free way to rename these files? I don't really feel like paying $4 to remove bloatware.
coder_t2 said:
Is there a free version of root explorer? Or a free way to rename these files? I don't really feel like paying $4 to remove bloatware.
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there is always the option of adb and manually removing stuff if you are familair with linux commands
magneticzero said:
there is always the option of adb and manually removing stuff if you are familair with linux commands
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Anytime I connect via my computer, it says permission denied for su. I know I have root, so I am a little confused. I can uninstall with Titanium Backup, but I was planning on keeping a copy of the apk, just in case. Is there any reason I would need this bloatware? Such as for Warranty or insurance? Other wise I'll just go and remove the worst of the bloat with Titanium backup. Thanks.
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Anytime I connect via my computer, it says permission denied for su. I know I have root, so I am a little confused. I can uninstall with Titanium Backup, but I was planning on keeping a copy of the apk, just in case. Is there any reason I would need this bloatware? Such as for Warranty or insurance? Other wise I'll just go and remove the worst of the bloat with Titanium backup. Thanks.
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there is RUU downloads in the Dev forum that will get you back to where you need to be in case you want to warranty your phone and make it 100% stock again. Best thing to do before removing stuff is boot into clockwork recovery or use rom manager(from the market) and backup everything...then delete. if you come across a problem with deleting something jsut restore from a backup.
magneticzero said:
there is RUU downloads in the Dev forum that will get you back to where you need to be in case you want to warranty your phone and make it 100% stock again. Best thing to do before removing stuff is boot into clockwork recovery or use rom manager(from the market) and backup everything...then delete. if you come across a problem with deleting something jsut restore from a backup.
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Oh I didn't about the backup. I'll have to do that. Does the backup copy apks and everything too? Thanks.
For reasons I won't go into (mainly because they're boring) I deleted Google talk.apk from Root Explorer (I was following instructions to update the app but those didn't work) and now I can't get it back. I've factory reset the phone to no avail. I have Google Voice installed, but can't seem to get talk back. If anyone could help, it would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Thanks!
BTW, I did a search before posing the ?, but the only solution I found was for a different phone, and when I ran those steps, when I tried to open Talk, it would just FC.
libracolo said:
For reasons I won't go into (mainly because they're boring) I deleted Google talk.apk from Root Explorer (I was following instructions to update the app but those didn't work) and now I can't get it back. I've factory reset the phone to no avail. I have Google Voice installed, but can't seem to get talk back. If anyone could help, it would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Thanks!
BTW, I did a search before posing the ?, but the only solution I found was for a different phone, and when I ran those steps, when I tried to open Talk, it would just FC.
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Have you tried snagging the files from another Photon and installing? Can you post what steps you have already taken please?
Yes....factory reset won't restore system apps. You can flash Juggs update.zip and that will restore for you. Then would have to root again of course but is easy enough.
Just download a custom rom , unzip it and copy the required app to your device.
faria said:
Just download a custom rom , unzip it and copy the required app to your device.
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I should of said that instead of grabbing it from another phone. Thanks faria.
CCallahan said:
Have you tried snagging the files from another Photon and installing? Can you post what steps you have already taken please?
Yes....factory reset won't restore system apps. You can flash Juggs update.zip and that will restore for you. Then would have to root again of course but is easy enough.
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Thanks for the info. If I flash Juggs update, will it hurt anything (since I already am on the latest OTA)?
faria said:
Just download a custom rom , unzip it and copy the required app to your device.
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I will try that as well. When I did a search, I found where someone had posted the talk.apk.zip file which I copied to my sd card, unzipped and then copied to system/apps (through Root Explorer), but that is when I started getting FC's. I then installed it (from Root Explorer) even with the same result. It may be that it wasn't the right version maybe? So if I extract it from a Rom, do I just copy it to the System/Apps folder (using Root Explorer)? Sorry for the confusion, and thanks much for the help.
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I will try that as well. When I did a search, I found where someone had posted the talk.apk.zip file which I copied to my sd card, unzipped and then copied to system/apps (through Root Explorer), but that is when I started getting FC's. I then installed it (from Root Explorer) even with the same result. It may be that it wasn't the right version maybe? So if I extract it from a Rom, do I just copy it to the System/Apps folder (using Root Explorer)? Sorry for the confusion, and thanks much for the help.
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you need to delete the talk.odex file from system apps othewize you get fcs.
faria said:
you need to delete the talk.odex file from system apps othewize you get fcs.
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I don't (and didn't) have that file, only talk.apk (which of course was deleted). Isn't the odex like the cache? If so, would it have been removed when I ran App Cache Cleaner?
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I don't (and didn't) have that file, only talk.apk (which of course was deleted). Isn't the odex like the cache? If so, would it have been removed when I ran App Cache Cleaner?
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Correct.
Well short of getting the apk from the very same rom version ,you will have to reflash he rom.
ps.
there the new google talk with video here in the forum, that probably would fix your problem.
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773272
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716888
faria said:
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773272
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716888
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Hey faria, thanks! I did the top link last night (that was the one that I copied the talk.apk.zip (2.2) over to my SD card, extracted, and then copied to /system/apps/. I installed from there (btw, I did change to R/W first), but all I got was FC's on talk. I'm thinking I needed to reboot after installing, maybe? I'm not really sure why I would need to reboot though, but if that is all it takes, I'm happy. I will try that when I get home tonight (don't have a spare cable with me right now). Thank you sooo much for your help.
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Thanks for the info. If I flash Juggs update, will it hurt anything (since I already am on the latest OTA)?
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If you still end up having problems.....
Juggs update.zip is just the latest OTA with a few minor modifications. So basically it will restore all to pretty close out of the box and restore any system apps.
However, you can also flash the sbf which is the actual newest OTA exactly like the one pushed from Motorola/Sprint. This requires using rsd and isn't quite as easy as the update.zip which can just be flashed via bootstrap recovery.
Any one of these methods will require you to root the phone again.
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If you still end up having problems.....
Juggs update.zip is just the latest OTA with a few minor modifications. So basically it will restore all to pretty close out of the box and restore any system apps.
However, you can also flash the sbf which is the actual newest OTA exactly like the one pushed from Motorola/Sprint. This requires using rsd and isn't quite as easy as the update.zip which can just be flashed via bootstrap recovery.
Any one of these methods will require you to root the phone again.
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Yeah, I'm gonna flash the sbf, I just downloaded it and installed the drivers and stuff, but I think I'm gonna wait until tomorrow night (only because it's been a really long day, started at 4 am MST just ending), so I think my brain is fried. Thanks for all your help today, I'll let ya know tomorrow how it goes. What a freakin pain in the arse this talk.apk has become....haha
Update: I flashed the sbf, re-rooted, and everything is great now, have Talk back. Thanks for all the help!
If you have safestrap go into the app, select the uninstall feature and re try the install. No need to download anyones utility or no need to factory reset.
do you happen to know the download path of the ota? Due to safestrap mine failed.. hate to download it again..
Should be in setting/ about phone/ updates
yeah thats to download it again.. i was hoping it would just install it if the system saw the file there. oh well at 55% i can wait a little longer..
After the phone reboots, if the install takes really really slow then ur on the right path
What if I have installed BootStrap recovery????
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What if I have installed BootStrap recovery????
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I dont have bootstrap but from what im gathering unistall that as well
then uninstall it.. my install failed with it. That is what the OP is saying you will need to uninstall them for the update to install
mine failed for a second time :/
Did you use voodoo ota and temp unroot? You need to do that as well i just figured that was a given by now
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Did you use voodoo ota and temp unroot? You need to do that as well i just figured that was a given by now
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Arrgh i swear i did.. While i was doing tb backups it slipped my mine i reckon.. really wish i could find the dl path for the update... hopefully third time will work!
Whether uninstalling the "Razr BootStrap" using "Managa Applications" is enough... Or I have to do some extra steps too????
Please help me... I don't care much about root, as the update usually unroots it and I can root again easily...
Bootstrap may be a dif problem. Like i said i used safestrap. I dunno what else you have done to urvphone. You might need the dev team to help you. I never used roms so i was stock i also never froze any bloatware.
Ummm. You're welcome....
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I think i thanked you last night lol.
arrgh 3rd time failed no bloat removed just stock rooted.. temp unrooted safestrap uninstalled.. any ideas? guess i might need to restore back to stock..
Sounds like you have something breaking the install. I know ive done very little to my phone. Factory reset may be your option but i would get hold of a tech here b4 u do anything
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Whether uninstalling the "Razr BootStrap" using "Managa Applications" is enough... Or I have to do some extra steps too????
Please help me... I don't care much about root, as the update usually unroots it and I can root again easily...
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You need to first uninstall the razr bootstrap app through "manage apps" (look under the all apps tab - clear data first while you're there).
Then, with root explorer or such, go to the /system/bin folder, mount r/w, and delete the following files:
hijack
logwrapper
Then, rename logwrapper.bin to simply logwrapper (just remove the .bin)...
Reboot, and it should be all cleaned out.
I would also recommend using voodoo ota rootkeeper to backup your root, then temporarily un-root (hide root) before doing the OTA install.
If you still get ota install errors, then you probably removed some system apps that are verified before installation... check /cache/recovery/last_log for errors.. then either replace those apk/odex files, or flash the fxz..
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You need to first uninstall the razr bootstrap app through "manage apps" (look under the all apps tab - clear data first while you're there).
Then, with root explorer or such, go to the /system/bin folder, mount r/w, and delete the following files:
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logwrapper
Then, rename logwrapper.bin to simply logwrapper (just remove the .bin)...
Reboot, and it should be all cleaned out.
I would also recommend using voodoo ota rootkeeper to backup your root, then temporarily un-root (hide root) before doing the OTA install.
If you still get ota install errors, then you probably removed some system apps that are verified before installation... check /cache/recovery/last_log for errors.. then either replace those apk/odex files, or flash the fxz..
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Thanks so much for the info. That logwrapper file was withholding me from updating.
I tried deleting and renaming the files with no success updating. I eventually just ended up doing a factory wipe and using Matt's Utility and flashing back to stock. It was a little frustrating, but the Verizon backup utility combined with Google services saved me. I guess i need to learn how to use Titanium backups. lol
this thread should be titled "How I got my Safestrapped RAZR to install ICS OTA successfully", as your issue was more to do with safestrap then specifically just being rooted.
I do not know why TWRP (or cyanogenmod, it seems) keeps repopulating my root directory with a supersu folder containing apks and scripts for that app. Is there any way to permanently delete that folder and all its contents? Whenever I reboot to recovery after I delete it, it always comes back.
(Inquiries elsewhere went unanswered. Googled all I could.)
From the looks of it you are in CM rom. SU is part of the rom. Not the recovery.
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From the looks of it you are in CM rom. SU is part of the rom. Not the recovery.
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Great, then that's my new question. Why does CM create this folder and how can I stop it from recreating itself? It's not like my /system/(x)bin/su binaries are being readded.
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Great, then that's my new question. Why does CM create this folder and how can I stop it from recreating itself? It's not like my /system/(x)bin/su binaries are being readded.
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You will have to completely remove root but with the odd way cm does root I am not sure it is really possible as it is coded into the OS.
zelendel said:
You will have to completely remove root but with the odd way cm does root I am not sure it is really possible as it is coded into the OS.
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There's gotta be a way somewhere out there but thanks for clearing up the cause, at any rate
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There's gotta be a way somewhere out there but thanks for clearing up the cause, at any rate
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Oh there is. Build the rom yourself and leave out super user and root.
Mainly as many custom rom features require root to work. You maybe better off running stock.
If you want to remove root just flash the latest Chainfire's SuperSU, go to the app then select full unroot. Reboot then delete supersu folder.
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Oh there is. Build the rom yourself and leave out super user and root.
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If only I knew how! I'm just hoping there's a simpler alternative.
Mainly as many custom rom features require root to work. You maybe better off running stock.
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I use systemless root and don't want any traces of the old method sitting around to be detected. Plus, I'm GApps-free, so that's not really possible.
24imelqui said:
If you want to remove root just flash the latest Chainfire's SuperSU, go to the app then select full unroot. Reboot then delete supersu folder.
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Doesn't help. That'll remove everything but the folder in question. Going back and deleting the folder after using SuperSU's full unroot option only works until my next reboot, when the folder pops back up again.