Hello all,
Longtime lurker, first time poster. I've passively used the forums for a long time, browsing tutorials, exploring apps, and increasing my general android and ROM knowledge. And now I have a problem I've so far been unable to solve. I wasn't sure if this should be posted in General, or in Q&A, but I chose the latter.
I'm a fan of HTC's aesthetics, despite their Sense UI (I'm a control-freak, and Sense allows no control). Up until last week I had a Wildfire S, running CyanogenMod 10.1. I now have a Desire X (yay!), only to find the versions of CyanogenMod available for the Desire X are all missing features that I consider deal breakers (no audio, no video, no audio recording, no video recording, no Bluetooth, and mainly no WiFi).
So now I'm trying to recreate that sweet, sweet Cyanogen feeling using readily available applications, which is where I hope y'all can help me.
This is what I've done/got so far:
Prep (from Recovery):
- Rooted the phone (obviously).
- Flashed CWM Recovery (Philz touch 5)
- Flashed SuperSU
- Flashed ROM Cleaner w/ customized NO-Sense_user.txt to remove as much of the Sense UI and HTC bloatware as possible
Flashed from ROM Cleaner, after cleanup:
- Nova Launcher Prime, replaces Rosie
- Stock Google Calendar, replaces HTC Calendar
- Stock Google Keyboard, replaces HTC Sense Input
- Stock KitKat Email, replaces HTC Mail
- Stock KitKat Gallery, replaces HTC Gallery
- 8sms, replaces HTC Messages
Installed from Nova Launcher:
- Chronus Pro, replaces lockscreen clock
- Clock JB+, replaces HTC World Clock
- exDialer PRO, replaces HTC Dialer + People
- WidgetLocker Lockscreen, replaces HTC Lockscreen
- Lotsa other stuff, unrelated to this post
So basically, I have everything that's visible replaced with either the stock, or close to stock application.
BUT, I'm unhappy with, and looking for a substitute for, two things:
- exDialer. It's an imperfect substitute for the stock phone dialer. I loved the Jelly Bean phone dialer, and I miss it dearly. KitKat phone dialer would also do nicely. Preferably something that has a nice integration with the stock Contacts app, or a similarly good contacts app. I don't actually mind the HTC People app so much, but if I have to give that up for a better phone dialer, I'll do that gladly.
- HTC Sense notification shade. The most major part I'm unhappy with. I really miss the Cyanogen notification shade and status bar. I miss the stock Jelly Bean (4.2+) status bar look (blue color, compact icons, and especially the circular battery meter), and I miss the full black notification shade w/ the power widgets bar. I've installed Power Toggles, which provides a pretty nice widgets bar, except that in order for it to stay at the top of the notification shade I need to keep an icon present in the status bar. I'm kind of a neat-freak w/ my status bar, so I want it as uncluttered as possible, meaning if a notification does appear there I notice it immediately. If need be I can live with the existing Sense notification shade, but I would love for the status bar to be Jelly Bean beautiful again.
Anybody have a solution to those two things (dialer and notification shade)?
sicae said:
Anybody have a solution to those two things (dialer and notification shade)?
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I might have a solution for the shade, standby while testing...
My bad, doesn't work. I will share my lead though...
The notification shade code is contained in an app called SystemUI.apk. Turns out it's pretty set in the system. My idea was just to drop it in. It didn't work, and in order to make it work requires the replacement of so many components you might as well flash a new ROM. I have consolation though, it is entirely possible to make a Sense based version that looks like stock(modding resources). I recommend PM'ing xpirt or ckpv5 about this. Sorry I couldn't help
CurtisMJ said:
I might have a solution for the shade, standby while testing......... Sorry I couldn't help
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Thanks for trying! I kinda figured that the shade is somehow deeply rooted in the system. Out of all the things I've been looking into replacing, by far the hardest thing to find anything for is the shade. Well, that and the lockscreen I guess (so-called "replacement" lockscreens basically only work on top of the system one, never replacing it).
Would PM-ing those users be considered bad form on this forum, me being a first time user and all?
sicae said:
Thanks for trying! I kinda figured that the shade is somehow deeply rooted in the system. Out of all the things I've been looking into replacing, by far the hardest thing to find anything for is the shade. Well, that and the lockscreen I guess (so-called "replacement" lockscreens basically only work on top of the system one, never replacing it).
Would PM-ing those users be considered bad form on this forum, me being a first time user and all?
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Haven't been here for long myself, but I don't think they'd mind. You might be able to request the skin in this thread if you don't want to PM them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441883
You may also be able to do it yourself.
First download one of the existing skins in the above thread, then...
This guide shows you how to mod apks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213985
Using the above tool you can modify any of the resources inside. (look in "/res/drawable-[?]")
This guide shows you how to edit the 9 patch(".9.png") files:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605662
Good luck!
sicae said:
Hello all,
Longtime lurker, first time poster. I've passively used the forums for a long time, browsing tutorials, exploring apps, and increasing my general android and ROM knowledge. And now I have a problem I've so far been unable to solve. I wasn't sure if this should be posted in General, or in Q&A, but I chose the latter.
I'm a fan of HTC's aesthetics, despite their Sense UI (I'm a control-freak, and Sense allows no control). Up until last week I had a Wildfire S, running CyanogenMod 10.1. I now have a Desire X (yay!), only to find the versions of CyanogenMod available for the Desire X are all missing features that I consider deal breakers (no audio, no video, no audio recording, no video recording, no Bluetooth, and mainly no WiFi).
So now I'm trying to recreate that sweet, sweet Cyanogen feeling using readily available applications, which is where I hope y'all can help me.
This is what I've done/got so far:
Prep (from Recovery):
- Rooted the phone (obviously).
- Flashed CWM Recovery (Philz touch 5)
- Flashed SuperSU
- Flashed ROM Cleaner w/ customized NO-Sense_user.txt to remove as much of the Sense UI and HTC bloatware as possible
Flashed from ROM Cleaner, after cleanup:
- Nova Launcher Prime, replaces Rosie
- Stock Google Calendar, replaces HTC Calendar
- Stock Google Keyboard, replaces HTC Sense Input
- Stock KitKat Email, replaces HTC Mail
- Stock KitKat Gallery, replaces HTC Gallery
- 8sms, replaces HTC Messages
Installed from Nova Launcher:
- Chronus Pro, replaces lockscreen clock
- Clock JB+, replaces HTC World Clock
- exDialer PRO, replaces HTC Dialer + People
- WidgetLocker Lockscreen, replaces HTC Lockscreen
- Lotsa other stuff, unrelated to this post
So basically, I have everything that's visible replaced with either the stock, or close to stock application.
BUT, I'm unhappy with, and looking for a substitute for, two things:
- exDialer. It's an imperfect substitute for the stock phone dialer. I loved the Jelly Bean phone dialer, and I miss it dearly. KitKat phone dialer would also do nicely. Preferably something that has a nice integration with the stock Contacts app, or a similarly good contacts app. I don't actually mind the HTC People app so much, but if I have to give that up for a better phone dialer, I'll do that gladly.
- HTC Sense notification shade. The most major part I'm unhappy with. I really miss the Cyanogen notification shade and status bar. I miss the stock Jelly Bean (4.2+) status bar look (blue color, compact icons, and especially the circular battery meter), and I miss the full black notification shade w/ the power widgets bar. I've installed Power Toggles, which provides a pretty nice widgets bar, except that in order for it to stay at the top of the notification shade I need to keep an icon present in the status bar. I'm kind of a neat-freak w/ my status bar, so I want it as uncluttered as possible, meaning if a notification does appear there I notice it immediately. If need be I can live with the existing Sense notification shade, but I would love for the status bar to be Jelly Bean beautiful again.
Anybody have a solution to those two things (dialer and notification shade)?
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Which rom cleaner did u flash? The desire hd v6?
I think Xpirt was making an AOSP theme which has long been stopped (i would continue it but don't really have a lot of time nor patience atm) you're best bet is third party apps and themes.
catchme_gagan said:
Which rom cleaner did u flash? The desire hd v6?
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I used ROM Cleaner v3.6 for HTC One X, running the full NO_Sense options w/ some minor added removals.
There's no Desire X version, but the One X version ran like a charm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589949
sicae said:
I used ROM Cleaner v3.6 for HTC One X, running the full NO_Sense options w/ some minor added removals.
There's no Desire X version, but the One X version ran like a charm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589949
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And how is your battery backup? How much is it?
sicae said:
Hello all,
Longtime lurker, first time poster. I've passively used the forums for a long time, browsing tutorials, exploring apps, and increasing my general android and ROM knowledge. And now I have a problem I've so far been unable to solve. I wasn't sure if this should be posted in General, or in Q&A, but I chose the latter.
I'm a fan of HTC's aesthetics, despite their Sense UI (I'm a control-freak, and Sense allows no control). Up until last week I had a Wildfire S, running CyanogenMod 10.1. I now have a Desire X (yay!), only to find the versions of CyanogenMod available for the Desire X are all missing features that I consider deal breakers (no audio, no video, no audio recording, no video recording, no Bluetooth, and mainly no WiFi).
So now I'm trying to recreate that sweet, sweet Cyanogen feeling using readily available applications, which is where I hope y'all can help me.
This is what I've done/got so far:
Prep (from Recovery):
- Rooted the phone (obviously).
- Flashed CWM Recovery (Philz touch 5)
- Flashed SuperSU
- Flashed ROM Cleaner w/ customized NO-Sense_user.txt to remove as much of the Sense UI and HTC bloatware as possible
Flashed from ROM Cleaner, after cleanup:
- Nova Launcher Prime, replaces Rosie
- Stock Google Calendar, replaces HTC Calendar
- Stock Google Keyboard, replaces HTC Sense Input
- Stock KitKat Email, replaces HTC Mail
- Stock KitKat Gallery, replaces HTC Gallery
- 8sms, replaces HTC Messages
Installed from Nova Launcher:
- Chronus Pro, replaces lockscreen clock
- Clock JB+, replaces HTC World Clock
- exDialer PRO, replaces HTC Dialer + People
- WidgetLocker Lockscreen, replaces HTC Lockscreen
- Lotsa other stuff, unrelated to this post
So basically, I have everything that's visible replaced with either the stock, or close to stock application.
BUT, I'm unhappy with, and looking for a substitute for, two things:
- exDialer. It's an imperfect substitute for the stock phone dialer. I loved the Jelly Bean phone dialer, and I miss it dearly. KitKat phone dialer would also do nicely. Preferably something that has a nice integration with the stock Contacts app, or a similarly good contacts app. I don't actually mind the HTC People app so much, but if I have to give that up for a better phone dialer, I'll do that gladly.
- HTC Sense notification shade. The most major part I'm unhappy with. I really miss the Cyanogen notification shade and status bar. I miss the stock Jelly Bean (4.2+) status bar look (blue color, compact icons, and especially the circular battery meter), and I miss the full black notification shade w/ the power widgets bar. I've installed Power Toggles, which provides a pretty nice widgets bar, except that in order for it to stay at the top of the notification shade I need to keep an icon present in the status bar. I'm kind of a neat-freak w/ my status bar, so I want it as uncluttered as possible, meaning if a notification does appear there I notice it immediately. If need be I can live with the existing Sense notification shade, but I would love for the status bar to be Jelly Bean beautiful again.
Anybody have a solution to those two things (dialer and notification shade)?
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I think I have a solution the 2 problems,
You can take a dialer app from the s2 CM 10 and try that one (kitkat doesn't work)
For the shade you can try to replace some files in systemui.apk with the one from the S2 or S2 plus in the res folder
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And how is your battery backup? How much is it?
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I'm not at all sure what you mean by that..?
GtrCraft said:
I think I have a solution the 2 problems,
You can take a dialer app from the s2 CM 10 and try that one (kitkat doesn't work)
For the shade you can try to replace some files in systemui.apk with the one from the S2 or S2 plus in the res folder
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Was super busy with the holidays and such, so haven't had a chance to look at the suggestions. And since a stable version of SuperSense 5 was released in the meantime I think I'm just gonna stick with that. Ran Rom Cleaner on it, and that's fixed most of my issues. Love it now. Nice dialer/contacts app, nice notification shade. Only the taskbar, but I can live with that..
Are there any dialer replacement for android at all? I'd like to have one that resembles google's dialer , I installed simpler contacts , simple dialer, ex dialer and they all seem to work until I try to make a call, then they "redirect me" to the stock samsung dialer which is not only ugly but it makes me crazy because after I hang up takes like 3 seconds to go back to the homescreen, any ideas?
Chad_Petree said:
Are there any dialer replacement for android at all? I'd like to have one that resembles google's dialer , I installed simpler contacts , simple dialer, ex dialer and they all seem to work until I try to make a call, then they "redirect me" to the stock samsung dialer which is not only ugly but it makes me crazy because after I hang up takes like 3 seconds to go back to the homescreen, any ideas?
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EX dialer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modoohut.dialer&hl=en
aukhan said:
EX dialer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modoohut.dialer&hl=en
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No exdialer also uses the samsung dialer when you make an actual call :crying:
Probably because Samsung dialer is embedded in seccontacts but as soon call trying to connect it goes to legacyincallui
Samsung have end call screen which lasting for couple of seconds (probably 1.2 to 1.9 seconds depends on condition it gets disconnected. So solution can be by removing that call end layout with modifying layout or reduce end call screen timeout with smali level editing. In both case not easy if you are not Pro with this stuff.
Sent from my SM-N910G using xda premium
I think that dialer. It looks and works almost like lollipop dialer. Try it!
Edit: KK Phone https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kk.dialer
I use this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simpler.dialer&hl=en
The Dev also has a contacts app with an embedded dialer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simpler.contacts&hl=en
The Sammy dialing screen is embedded; I'm not sure there's an app that really gets around this. Modding is the better solution but Sammy has so many variants that the development effort on devices is fractured -- I've yet to see a theme that covers all the basic apps (systemUI, dialer, contacts, S Planner, etc) to give them a proper Material Design makeover. If there were just one or two variants of the device, I'm pretty sure we'd have already seen more extensive theming and modding.
jpbl1976 said:
I use this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simpler.dialer&hl=en
The Dev also has a contacts app with an embedded dialer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simpler.contacts&hl=en
The Sammy dialing screen is embedded; I'm not sure there's an app that really gets around this. Modding is the better solution but Sammy has so many variants that the development effort on devices is fractured -- I've yet to see a theme that covers all the basic apps (systemUI, dialer, contacts, S Planner, etc) to give them a proper Material Design makeover. If there were just one or two variants of the device, I'm pretty sure we'd have already seen more extensive theming and modding.
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That's the same app I use simpler contacts and that's what I was afraid to hear, that there's no way to prevent the phone from using the stock dialer when you make calls
I'm hoping we will get the Galaxy s6 dialer which it's a bit better and specially that we will get the s6's theme engine with the 5.1.1 update but so far there have been no rom leaks so I don't what to think anymore.
Is there any update on this issue yet?
I have tried to use Wanam Xposed to code this out but it will not work.
You can change the ugly white UI in the settings menu which is something at least.
But the stock dialer color will not change.
Does anyone know of a mod to flash back to the dark Jelly Bean dialer?
Chad_Petree said:
That's the same app I use simpler contacts and that's what I was afraid to hear, that there's no way to prevent the phone from using the stock dialer when you make calls
I'm hoping we will get the Galaxy s6 dialer which it's a bit better and specially that we will get the s6's theme engine with the 5.1.1 update but so far there have been no rom leaks so I don't what to think anymore.
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Just to mention it, if you use any of the 5.1.1 roms, the note5 dialer works prefect on it. Just over right old and set permissions. It is also much, much closer to the aosp one with very few changes. I won't be home until tonight but will try and post it later if anyone wants it.
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True Phone is the best.
Any simple way to change the dialer colour. Im on Note 4 N10G on downgraded Kitkat 4.4.4. The JB dialer had a black background when the call is dialling which changed to green when the call connected. But in this stock dialer the background remains green even before the call connects
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/themes-apps/themes-note-4-blacked-ui-kk-4-4-4-mod-t2922662 going to try this and see if it works
KK dialer bro. Check it on Google play
KK like other dialers only provides interface BEFORE call is dialled. Once dialled it goes to stock dialer interface.
Chad_Petree said:
Are there any dialer replacement for android at all? I'd like to have one that resembles google's dialer , I installed simpler contacts , simple dialer, ex dialer and they all seem to work until I try to make a call, then they "redirect me" to the stock samsung dialer which is not only ugly but it makes me crazy because after I hang up takes like 3 seconds to go back to the homescreen, any ideas?
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If you've got Marshmallow, try Google dialer from the N developer preview which can also be set as default; search for Google Phone in ApkMirror.com. True material design and overall stability are the keywords
niceguy1430 said:
KK like other dialers only provides interface BEFORE call is dialled. Once dialled it goes to stock dialer interface.
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Ur talking about the call ui. That's kind of difficult to change.
Sent from my SM-N920C using XDA-Developers mobile app
Anybody ever found a solution for OP to bypass stock dialer when actually calling? I absolutely can't stand the stock dialer for functional reasons, not aesthetic ones. The mute button right next to call end?!? What kind of smart idea was that? I'm on 1-hour conference calls all day long, and often mute. A smidge off and then I'm stuck redialing a [email protected]** conference code again. Horrible user experience design. Call end should be isolated far from other common buttons. Anyway, back to the topic, any way to replace or bypass stock dialer... and particularly without root, for those of us who want to still be able to use mobile wallet and banking apps?
I have an H930DS model V30+. Ideally I would like to be able to disable/uninstall the stock dialer/contacts applications which are ugly IMHO. There are lots of alternative dialer apps but they can't prevent the stock in-call screen from showing. Drupe is the best I can find as it uses an overlay to hide the stock app but it has limitations around handling the missed call notifications which can only be fully cleared by going into the stock app. Can anyone advise of a way to disable the stock dialer (I think I may have to use WTF method to unlock the phone to do this)? Aside from the ugly dialer, all other changes I would like to make to the phone are easily made by installing alternative apps so this is just the last thing I want to change for the phone to be close to perfect for me.
Have you tried changing in Default Apps the application responsible for Phone? That ought to work.
GryphonBR said:
Have you tried changing in Default Apps the application responsible for Phone? That ought to work.
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Yes, changing the default app doesn't override things like the in-call screen and other functions in all cases (it varies depending on the replacement app). Most dialer apps specifically mention that they cannot override some stock dialer-related functions in their FAQ section. An old version of the google dialer app is also a partial solution but some functions like 'nearby places' don't work.
The stock app is the one that the emergency call from lockscreen seems to activate no matter which other dialer has been installed. For obvious reasons accessing the dialer for emergency calls from the lockscreen would still need to work. I dont know if access to dialer from the LG lockscreen depends on the stock dialer still being installed
I finally decided to unlock my phone and root it. I was able to install the google framework with magisk then install the full version of google's dialer app from the playstore with all the features working rather than the patched versions that run on unrooted phones. Apart from the emergency dial from the lockscreen there is no sign of LG dialer or contacts anymore