While we're working on Android 4.1, I thought it would be cool to have a clean AOSP ROM for daily use.
Stay tuned, should have great deal of info by Wednesday.
This is a part of Sakura AOSP Project.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34665967
Wise words:
Ralph Smeets said:
While Android is opensource, not everything needs to be opensource. If a company doesn't want to publisch the board-support-package, they don't have to. At that point, you have to write this bsp yourself.... Which can only be done by reseverse engineering. A company like ST Ericsson develops a chipset. A team of more then 10 people is then involved to port Android to this chipset. They look for clients and to every client they dedicate a special team that helps the client (Samsung in this case, but also Sony) to adopt this port to their needs and their platform. The client then ports their layer (Touchwiz for Samsung) to the new platfrom. So you're looking at maybee 30 people involved to get Android up, running and bug-free on a one specific phone..... People who get payed to do this at work. People who will get paid extra time if needed. People who do this as a day job.
Now, let's get back to XDA. We're looking here at one to two active developers who do the porting in their spare time. They are not getting paid for it. They just do it for the trill, so let's stop asking them for timelines or updates. Let's keep it a fun thing for them to do. If not.... Wel... if it's not fun anymore for them to share their work.... they will simple stop sharing and they have all the rights in the world to stop sharing!
bangz0r, keep up the good work
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Thank you man!!
I would love to experiment pure android gingerbread before your release of jellybean
Brgds
that's a really good new !
well well, I'm anxious , thanks
Good news !
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thanks man
waiting .... ........ ...... .........
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waiting .... ........ ...... .........
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Omg dont spam
Develop on your own if you think this is easy and done after one day...
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xXmyselfXx said:
Omg dont spam
Develop on your own if you think this is easy and done after one day...
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It's just to give encouragement and to know that we are waiting for your job. If you are susceptible here.
Original español:
Es sólo para dar ánimos y para que sepa que estamos pendientes de su trabajo. Si que sois susceptibles por aquí.
Any news ?? Thanks bagnz0r
Awesome :victory:
Can't wait to try these
"cool to have a clean AOSP ROM for daily use"
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I am greatful for people to make things better.
Just a note, both projects have been delayed.
I have a huge overhaul at work. Shouldn't be more than until Friday,
@up
so why don't you create a thread AFTER having a ROM?
With all the respect to the devs and your previous achievements, I think that all that "coming soon" threads should be deleted.
what we got here? A thread with no ROM (actually 3 of them, including sacura project and jb) and dozens of "yeahs, wows and can't waits" posts. and "delay" of project...
Do you need all that "likes" and "encourage" trash? so why don't you release ROM first?
And no, I'm not a dev and I will not release my own ROM (I suppose somebody use such argument soon), but for God's sake- this is development, not chitchat section.
there are forums with separate development and ROM discussion sections, which helps to keep development thread clean. but we have all in one... Do we needs hundreds of pages of garbage? you have like/thanks button, so why do you post all that thanks anyway?
sorry if somebody felt insulted or sth...
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judas1977 said:
@up
so why don't you create a thread AFTER having a ROM?
With all the respect to the devs and your previous achievements, I think that all that "coming soon" threads should be deleted.
what we got here? A thread with no ROM (actually 3 of them, including sacura project and jb) and dozens of "yeahs, wows and can't waits" posts. and "delay" of project...
Do you need all that "likes" and "encourage" trash? so why don't you release ROM first?
And no, I'm not a dev and I will not release my own ROM (I suppose somebody use such argument soon), but for God's sake- this is development, not chitchat section.
there are forums with separate development and ROM discussion sections, which helps to keep development thread clean. but we have all in one... Do we needs hundreds of pages of garbage? you have like/thanks button, so why do you post all that thanks anyway?
sorry if somebody felt insulted or sth...
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I'm sorry I did not read the entire post, but with all due respect - this is not a "coming soon" thread.
You are obviously new to XDA.
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Release, lol. You would get killed if you'd have actually worked as a developer at sane company calling up on releases without in-depth testing first. Do you know the purpose of creating such thread? It's for contributing.
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I'm sorry I did not read the entire post, but with all due respect - this is not a "coming soon" thread.
You are obviously new to XDA.
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no, I'm not.
bagnz0r said:
EDIT:
Release, lol. You would get killed if you'd have actually worked as a developer at sane company calling up on releases without in-depth testing first. Do you know the purpose of creating such thread? It's for contributing.
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1. but you aren't developer at any company, at least xda is not such a company. you need to make a thread to test the ROM ALONE??
you are experienced dev, so what kind of contribution do you need at this point? to hold your hand?
2. I think contribution starts with first release...
people find bugs, help to solve it...
what kind of contribution did you get from all that previous posts?
I don't want to argue, maybe you used to to trash in threads/topics, but how many of previous posts (and in our threads general) are actually valuable and helpful?
wouldnot be nicer and better without all that junk? EoT.
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@up If you wish to complain go somewhere else. Turns out that there are some that are valuable, well at least in JB topic.
There's always a party pooper in the crowd.
Anyway, I thought I might start doing something on GitHub.
https://github.com/bagnz0r
@Shaaan: I've pulled in your device for janice and made it closer to codina.
https://github.com/bagnz0r/android_device_samsung_codina
Hi sir .. If u dont like Sir Bangz0r project or something U MAY OUT
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bagnz0r said:
Just a note, both projects have been delayed.
I have a huge overhaul at work. Shouldn't be more than until Friday,
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Peace, thanks for the work.
Keep calm & ignore trolls. Whether there will or won't be 4.1 or 2.3 custom - thanks for try.
I assure you - there will be both.
Related
We all know that it has been a mess here since a while.
I thought to post this, so MAYBE some people do listen to CYANOGEN himself instead of the DEVs around here.
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
cyanogen said:
I really dislike the "chef" moniker when it comes to Android, since we are more of an open-source community. I think it implies a "file pusher" mentality. But then again, I am biased against proprietary versions of Android like Sense, so feel free to disregard all of this.
Here's my advice for those looking to make their own Android ROMs.. Stop. Write an app or two first, learn how the system works from a developer standpoint. Learn some Java. Read the developer documentation. Learn how to use Git. Then learn how to build AOSP from source. Read the porting guides, and learn how the build system works (the links below have almost everything you could possibly want to know). Now try to put your new found skills to work on enhancing the platform by writing code or making theme overlays. And share! And put that **** on your resume. There is a *ton* of information out there but any kind of "step-by-step rom cooking guide" is going to be a complete fail- it's too broad of a subject.
Android Developer Guides: http://d.android.com
Working with AOSP source: http://source.android.com
Platform Developer Guide: http://pdk.android.com
Android Gitweb: http://android.git.kernel.org
Git Ready (Git tips and tricks): http://www.gitready.com/
Building CyanogenMod: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Building_from_source
How Dexopt works and what are those odex files: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=pl...bcd225e47b2cc7abb2a366112d3aeb45936;hb=master
The PDK site is absolutely vital if you are going to work on custom ROMs. Read every single page. Twice. Some of the info isn't up to date, but you'll get a really good idea about what goes into actually configuring Android to work on a real device.
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I hope this helps.
And I don't say you should not "Develop" the "ROMs", I say we should publish them in ONE topic. Were everyone can acces them easily, but it will be ordened nicely.
If that thread will be anywere, than I will take responsibilty to make it.
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reserveddd
There will be posted many ROMs in here if so, reserved!
I will help you too
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I will help you too
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Thanks
You mind posting your next ROMs in here?
Not to be rude ofcourse...
Greets!
mDroidd said:
Thanks
You mind posting your next ROMs in here?
Not to be rude ofcourse...
Greets!
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Yeah if u delete 1-2 of ur reserved posts so my roms come in 2nd or 3rd post
I understand this advice
thanks for linking this.. those are really useful links
mDroidd said:
We all know that it has been a mess here since a while.
I thought to post this, so MAYBE some people do listen to CYANOGEN himself instead of the DEVs around here.
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
I hope this helps.
And I don't say you should not "Develop" the "ROMs", I say we should publish them in ONE topic. Were everyone can acces them easily, but it will be ordened nicely.
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Seems to me the pdk site is down???
+1 do this...
I personally dont belive in binary tweaked and enhanced ROMs, they are more filled with bloatware and totally unneeded scripts making the system slower... and those themes?? Yea i can download them too...
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RockR172 said:
+1 do this...
I personally dont belive in binary tweaked and enhanced ROMs, they are more filled with bloatware and totally unneeded scripts making the system slower... and those themes?? Yea i can download them too...
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I too. Themed ROMs are not worth
+1 from my side too
mDroidd said:
We all know that it has been a mess here since a while.
I thought to post this, so MAYBE some people do listen to CYANOGEN himself instead of the DEVs around here.
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
I hope this helps.
And I don't say you should not "Develop" the "ROMs", I say we should publish them in ONE topic. Were everyone can acces them easily, but it will be ordened nicely.
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I totally agree with this. O1 P500 Community could use a little cleaning up.
By the way, I have been wanting to learn actually developing Android but just can't find the resource to hook me up. Those links are just what I needed.
My opinion is that we can ask a kid politely till we die of old age,
and i'm not far by comparing what is happening here whit kids behavior.
Long story short moderators must do something, us users can relay do nothing,
if a user is like that, our posts will defensively not impress him and in most cases he will never read them..
RockR172 said:
+1 do this...
I personally dont belive in binary tweaked and enhanced ROMs, they are more filled with bloatware and totally unneeded scripts making the system slower... and those themes?? Yea i can download them too...
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DJoptimus-One said:
I too. Themed ROMs are not worth
+1 from my side too
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But you download and flash such roms?
mcapoy said:
I totally agree with this. O1 P500 Community could use a little cleaning up.
By the way, I have been wanting to learn actually developing Android but just can't find the resource to hook me up. Those links are just what I needed.
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Good for you that you find it now, if you tried searching the same earlier you would have learn how to develop in Android coz that link is almost 2 years old. Basically you wasted 2 years waiting for such links to come.
This thread is of no purpose, the theme roms and other roms will go in this section ONLY as its right now. No need to create threads like this one, to avoid warning.
Thread closed!
Yes I know I'm not the appropriate person to start the thread, but I really feel that something must be done to prevent this forum from going from bad to worse.
First things first, Dev section:
- Why do I see people flaming there? Especially the OT people?
- Despite many attempts to ask you guys to stop the spam in the CM9 thread, everyone just ignores and keeps going. Seriously, guys, shut up!
- *** Edit: ANDROIDCUSTOMISe has apologized on behalf of TA***
Secondly, General section:
- OT thread. I know whose post count relies heavily on that thread, but the thread is mine. Me and the mods make the rules in those threads. I wanted to help noobs, but the thread just degraded itself......maybe I should rename the thread to "The ONE AND ONLY thread for degeneration"?
- Search. No one ever searches. Why is that so? Procrastination. That's right. Those idiots at Chum Bucket are lazy to search for whatever in the hell they want, because it's much easier to ask at the Q&A section. [Q] this, [Q] that. It NEVER ends.......I can just get angry thinking about it.
Thirdly, to all you wannabe developers:
- Derivative ROMs DO NOT count as true development, because you did not create your own base from source, but from someone else instead. I actually hesitated to post this point, because most people in many teams do that, including TeamCooper themselves.
- That includes many themed ROMs in the already saturated Samsung Galaxy Ace ROM market.
- Never call yourself a dev until you can actually compile something from sources that you created by yourself, or compiling GB/CM7/ICS/CM9 by yourself. I've been holding this inside myself for a long time.
Fourthly, Maclaw and his team (Maclaw, if you read this, no offence):
- Why in the world would they wanna waste so much $$ making a server so that they can host a few files? I mean, there's file sharing sites for everything, even MegaUpload is coming back, sheesh.
- Again, a personal server just for a blog?!! What?!! You have Blogger and Tumblr, yet you chose not to use them. Great work, Maclaw. Great work.
Fifthly, Team Adreno:
- Rushabh, I've sincerely had enough with you and jinavs. I know that WP7 was originally tj_droid's idea and you never knew how to use dsixda's Android Kitchen until he taught you. In the end, BAM! Stolen ROM.
- AOKP. Hah, you guys knew it was a port yet you guys hate that word. Well, maybe grow some guts and actually compile something next time? Also, if you guys have a hectic schedule, don't release a ROM which promises frequent updates. It'll harm the hearts of many of your fans.
- You guys are lucky aNDROIDCUSTOMISe joined TA despite the objections, don't lose him again like how you lost tj.
- Also, it's not that I'm trying to insult or anything. Look at the first points, Prawesome said I was licking your asses.
Sorry if anything was wrong, I am posting this in frustration.
"I have to go. It's just....they really need me." - Sora
Added a fourth rant (I'm going to hell for this)
"I have to go. It's just....they really need me." - Sora
CallMeVentus said:
Added a fourth rant (I'm going to hell for this)
"I have to go. It's just....they really need me." - Sora
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The 4th one might cause quite a stir in this community...
On behaf of Team Adreno, I would like to say sorry to Team Cooper, I know we had our fights....and as I see it we are the guilty ones.But please stop going on about that stuff from the past...we made our mistakes,just like you guys made yours
AND PLEASE CALLMEVENTUS, DON'T LEAVE TC!
I kindly ask you to have a polite discussion. Otherwise this thread would go down.
King ACE said:
The 4th one might cause quite a stir in this community...
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When the time comes , I'm ready .
ANDROIDCUSTOMIZe said:
On behaf of Team Adreno, I would like to say sorry to Team Cooper, I know we had our fights....and as I see it we are the guilty ones.But please stop going on about that stuff from the past...we made our mistakes,just like you guys made yours
AND PLEASE CALLMEVENTUS, DON'T LEAVE TC!
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I have been wanting to forgive you guys.....but look at Rushabh .
When the time comes I will make a decision .
"I have to go. It's just....they really need me." - Sora
The fan boys would be here any minute now to start a fight...
Sent from the year 3000 using a SGA where sheep's are not present.
Best thing..forget all that happened in the past..there is a reason it is called the past..learn from it but dont bring it back..JUST...FORGET IT AND MOVE ON...lets start anew..TA got new members..lets wish all of them good luck and lets hope for the best cause in the end, even if you are in either of the teams, the major problem will affect the community as a whole..
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I kindly ask you to have a polite discussion. Otherwise this thread would go down.
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Sorry Mr. Tom . I only posted this because I couldn't take it anymore .
"I have to go. It's just....they really need me." - Sora
CallMeVentus said:
Sorry Mr. Tom . I only posted this because I couldn't take it anymore .
"I have to go. It's just....they really need me." - Sora
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I am glad you posted it so TA could say sorry
And, I know what he did/does...I am going to have a Kid-to-Teen/Man chat with him:silly:
ANDROIDCUSTOMIZe said:
I am glad you posted it so TA could say sorry
And, I know what he did/does...I am going to have a Kid-to-Teen/Man chat with him:silly:
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Thanks for understanding
Sent from the year 3000 using a SGA where sheep's are not present.
Argh....AGAIN CAN'T THANKS!
These posts make me thanks to much!
CallMeVentus u are so right abouth spaming and ignoring rules.. hope it will gwt better
Assuming the brand new Rom posting structure is fully implemented on our sga section of the forum this will resolve the development v theming/porting arguement. All that would then be required is that all members (whatever their status) treat others with respect. Please sirs if you think others are doing wrong don't flame - report. Leave moderation to the Moderators, they haven't been shy of stepping in and advising. Maybe all we need now is a few demonstrations of Tomek's Iron Fist to stop people thinking they can get away with anything. Best wishes to ALL Dev Teams and individuals.
Dude you have all the reason... and i post another one dissagreament that is the create false expectatives with roms and yes im talking about Maclaw.... where is the great and massive update he had promise?...
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maxidad35 said:
Dude you have all the reason... and i post another one dissagreament that is the create false expectatives with roms and yes im talking about Maclaw.... where is the great and massive update he had promise?...
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That is something of your fault .
He's doing the ROMs for free and yet you demand from him .
You're acting like a consumer , might as well leave XDA .
"I have to go. It's just....they really need me." - Sora
CallMeVentus said:
That is something of your fault .
He's doing the ROMs for free and yet you demand from him .
You're acting like a consumer , might as well leave XDA .
"I have to go. It's just....they really need me." - Sora
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Oh no .. you have no reason in that point.... he is playing with the peoples feeling... i dont talk about me.. im talking about people who donate him money that want stable rom and if you see in a month.. the server out... he was on vacation... lagloose stop his work coz he said he had camera funtionaly ( where? )... one thing is a free job.. another one a paid job like Maclaw s job... i know nobody pay him all months like a normal job but the donations are same that the money you receive for do a job
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If they didn't host servers for their files and blogs, they would have no reason to ask for donations.
This was sent from my impulses, not my Galaxy Ace.
CallMeLewis said:
If they didn't host servers for their files and blogs, they would have no reason to ask for donations.
This was sent from my impulses, not my Galaxy Ace.
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There a some developers if i could call him that... they looking for donations without a blog or a oficial page
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maxidad35 said:
There a some developers if i could call him that... they looking for donations without a blog or a oficial page
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The main site is powered by the blind donators .
So they do have an official page .
"I have to go. It's just....they really need me." - Sora
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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I am also regular at this site everyday. But, some noobs just want the dev's to get out of this community.
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dnle71 said:
I am also regular at this site everyday. But, some noobs just want the dev's to get out of this community.
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They are gonna enjoy when all of us will be moving to other devices. Arjen already bought S3
I'm going too.
Adam is going for nexus 7, soon enough
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DJoptimus-One said:
They are gonna enjoy when all of us will be moving to other devices. Arjen already bought S3
I'm going too.
Adam is going for nexus 7, soon enough
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Its true they say. one bad fish spoils the entire pond
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Its true they say. one bad fish spoils the entire pond
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Yes, but there ain't any one single N00B fish in the O1 pond. There are many
_Arjen_ said:
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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Completely aggree.
The main problem (just my point of view) is that those "noobs" ignore any compents (if I think on hephappy's thread) and think they know everything.
And because they don't work on there own project, they don't know how much work (all in the free time of the devs) has to be done.
Don't worry
Don't worry!
My roms are available via Rom Manager.
Rom manager -> Download rom -> hephappy -> Select rom
No more xda = no more noobs...
Rom manager note:
ROM hosting is free. ROMs hosted via ROM Manager Developer Portal will be listed
in the free section 5 days of the week. The other 2 days of the week, it will be
listed in the premium section. The days may vary from developer to developer
so not all developers are in the premium section at the same time.
Woohoo okkayyy
hephappy said:
Don't worry!
My roms are available via Rom Manager.
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Thanks Hep...
I do not have ROM Manager on my phone till now, but will use it - only to be connected to your ROM updates !
don't know about others but I appreciate your hard work and will continue to do so no matter what
_Arjen_ said:
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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Well you are complety right im a xda user for almost 2 years and this setion was fun thanks to devs. and users but in the last 2 months appears so many new people ho now everything altouhg im not a dev and only start about 2 days learning how to modify well you guys have all credit from yesterday i build JB just for learning propuses and that gave me an ideai of what you guys do for free but noobs keep sayng others phones why ours dont lol just lol what i think is more worst is that they dont read first before postimg stupid stuff android its not made only for p500 and android versions evolve like the new phones evolve if we want new stuff we need other phone we cant push more for this awseome device that was my first android device and thanks to this comunity open source now i have 3 diferent devices of course we cant buy what we want whenever we want but noobs have to learn how to trust devs. if they say this is impossible to rum thats because its RESPECT TO M.A.C. TEAM AND ALL OTHERS THAT ONLY GEEKS THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING I LEARN AND AM LEARNING ABOUT ANDROID IN A GENERAL WAY.
.spcealy arjen ho already give me tipes and with them i put CM9 working in my tablet thanks a lot.
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You are all free to go but your attitude is kind of disgusting. Noobs you say? I bet you are noob also if I speak of something you don't know. Learn to respect everyone before pretending to be respected... And by the way, I can say that EVERYONE showed A LOT of gratitude for the hard work of you developers and LOVE you.
shishimaru1000 said:
You are all free to go but your attitude is kind of disgusting. Noobs you say? I bet you are noob also if I speak of something you don't know. Learn to respect everyone before pretending to be respected... And by the way, I can say that EVERYONE showed A LOT of gratitude for the hard work of you developers and LOVE you.
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I kinda agree here, developers get all the respect, praise and following but they get bossy and abusive at times. Evrerybody likes to have good ROMs but not at the price of self respect I guess.
Everybody has a noob stage in life or maybe someone who you call noob at XDA might be a scholar in his field so XDA is not the end of the world. The best way to treat somebody who you dont like is to 'ignore'.
If a dev has 500 fans and 50 of them are ignorant noobs, even then its not a bad deal.
MORAL: Everybody start giving respect, dont be short tempered, value devs work and try to ignore if thats the only option.
Cheers!
myawan said:
I kinda agree here, developers get all the respect, praise and following but they get bossy and abusive at times. Evrerybody likes to have good ROMs but not at the price of self respect I guess.
Everybody has a noob stage in life or maybe someone who you call noob at XDA might be a scholar in his field so XDA is not the end of the world. The best way to treat somebody who you dont like is to 'ignore'.
If a dev has 500 fans and 50 of them are ignorant noobs, even then its not a bad deal.
MORAL: Everybody start giving respect, dont be short tempered, value devs work and try to ignore if thats the only option.
Cheers!
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+1
Everybody is a "noob" at one time.Lot of people think they are the boss and call others noobs, but that pretty much wont last long.I ain't a developer but love all the developing works in here.Its really obvious from the thank meters of great devs, how much respected they are in this community.
Not anybody is born really intelligent and talented.
Everybody learn something from others and improve it.That is how the system works.
Everybody has their own field which they are perfect at.In that field, the "bosses" in here could be noobs.
I think everybody should learn to respect others to gain respect.
Sent from my LG-P500 running Ginger Snap
Lots of ego stuff, from both sides
Me too,going to get sgs2.
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I have been a professional developer but for internals and ROMs, I am 100% "Noob." Most of what I see on this little thread is much less than helpful. Enough already.
Anyone who read my posts would see that my tone does not fit the stereotype be harangued here. I do not use the F word, the S word, make ridiculous claims and demands of more experienced (fantastic!) "Devs." Any suggestions I make are with respect and humility. Maybe the ideas will pan out, maybe not.
If I do not have CM10 on this old phone, I am delighted with ICS. (Indeed, Google Now will soon enough work here without JB, a matter of time and ingenuity.) I do hope JB (or as I have termed in more realistically "Jelly-Sandwich") will work on the phone, but there are other things in life. I did not enter XDA for all the negativity and tension. Friendship and respect are more important the ROMs and tweaks.
I dont read p500 so munch like old time, im have buy new device and i busy with that, but this problem has rolling day by day, even before arjen and adam start developing here, it has make alot of casualties like andy, doctornotor, etc..
What you expect from from developer?
Their ideas, their works, their time, so i think they must have bigger egos than me, im just a Leacher... Just download and give feedbacks if you like their works, or leave it like that if you hate he/his works. No need flaming, another person have their glasses and viewpoint.
Xda is made for us. we here for our needs, even every devices will death development, we just try make as long as we can, and flaming is not the way to make our beloved p500 ageless like htc hero...
Thx for all developers That i known for 1.5years till now day in this section... GBU.
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Arjen, I shall call franco here
He was the most obsessed by noob questions
You believe that a kernel dev recieved PMs regarding how to flash kernels. Lol
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Arjen, can I request you to close this thread? I could understand your good intentions behind starting this thread but this is going totally in a different direction. I hope all of you agree with me that tit for tat attitude is not good for anybody. Its high time that we stop all this and come to normal mode, cooperate and make this community a great place to do better things.
Firstly, this isn't a complain, just a way to try to understand what's happening.
I noticed some devs (from the few we already have) are leaving.
What is the problem? Personal? Phone power? It was only a temporary phone? Users aren't being polite or thankful? Xperia S seems that won't have much developers, this was a fact since the beginning.
Since the beginning, FXP and Xperia AOKP team are here, but a few other devs doesn't hurt. Doing mods, other ROMS (I confess I'm jealous of the number of roms and mods on the Arc forum. Heck, I want that Pureness Rom so bad).
Again, only trying to understand, I AM NOT COMPLAINING.
"I got my values. So you can keep yours, OK?"
A Serious Issue!
Maybe because some users are complaining too much for the hard work they get for free. I think that we should praise our devs more and also that we should donate more. Development of a rom takes days/weeks. Not everybody can afford to do that totally for free. Maybe xda could offer a humble-bundle-like buisiness model for professional devs. (pay what you want). With that we could attract skilled and motivated people. And paying at least 1$ for a rom wouldn't hurt anybody but reward the developers.
Please don't attack me for that. It's just a suggestion. I know how hard development is. At the moment I also have maybe a 100 interesting projects, but I can't afford to realize them cause I don't get paid for that. And everybody needs to live from something.
people here doing those for free, and of course they have life too.. it's sad to see some few people just rant about their mistakes...if there's bug in the kernel/rom..report it, instead of ranting or venting anger :/
hope to see more development for our devices..
MAyB the user complain more & 4get to give credit to the DEV's who have put in hard effort to make it & sacrificed their useful time.
Maybe because they have gotten better phones than the Sony ones... But it is sad yes.. I would love a smooth and fast rom... But hope more devs will come... I have tried a little for my own and will maybe continue xsx kernel but I can't promise anything as I don't have much time because of my final masters degree assignment..
But we must hope for better days ..
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DenmarkRootN00b said:
Maybe because they have gotten better phones than the Sony ones... But it is sad yes.. I would love a smooth and fast rom... But hope more devs will come... I have tried a little for my own and will maybe continue xsx kernel but I can't promise anything as I don't have much time because of my final masters degree assignment..
But we must hope for better days ..
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Which, somehow, it's strange. Xperia X10 Mini/Pro, X8 are low end 2010 devices. They still have some active devs there.
"I got my values. So you can keep yours, OK?"
Look at x8! They even have miniCM9 n 10! Haha! And many Roms and juice to taste! What I can say is that let's became dev to serve our community! It's about time to do it ourselves!
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because our bootloader isn't editable.
and sony phones are hard to develop for
monivan said:
Look at x8! They even have miniCM9 n 10! Haha! And many Roms and juice to taste! What I can say is that let's became dev to serve our community! It's about time to do it ourselves!
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Yeah... That's the spirit
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Who's leaving? I'm not leaving, I'm temporarily studying
I think the MooDeD (what's the right capitalization in that) dev left, but I don't think we've lost much here. Doom is having a lot of problems IRL, and so do I for now. Jerpelea and Kali- are working on 8960 devices, me, Nick and Keiran on U8500 and AOKP for everyone, krabappel and others work on modded stock ROMs and stuff. What else do we really need? I mean, it would be great to see more skilled people here, but we're getting by as we are right now. Give Sony a month or two, and we'll get stable JB with all the stuff working*
* - likely except HDMI, Sony uses a custom protocol that's a PITA to reverse engineer, so it's not a priority.
P.S. Also, Xperia Nexus. If it's real and not Exynos (which I doubt), I'm totally getting it.
K900 said:
Who's leaving? I'm not leaving, I'm temporarily studying
I think the MooDeD (what's the right capitalization in that) dev left, but I don't think we've lost much here. Doom is having a lot of problems IRL, and so do I for now. Jerpelea and Kali- are working on 8960 devices, me, Nick and Keiran on U8500 and AOKP for everyone, krabappel and others work on modded stock ROMs and stuff. What else do we really need? I mean, it would be great to see more skilled people here, but we're getting by as we are right now. Give Sony a month or two, and we'll get stable JB with all the stuff working*
* - likely except HDMI, Sony uses a custom protocol that's a PITA to reverse engineer, so it's not a priority.
P.S. Also, Xperia Nexus. If it's real and not Exynos (which I doubt), I'm totally getting it.
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Eracher and mericon just left.
I know. I really wish I had knowledge to at least a Sony based ROM (from Arc to XS). But I really don't know where to start. No dev knowledge.
Felimenta97 said:
Eracher and mericon just left.
I know. I really wish I had knowledge to at least a Sony based ROM (from Arc to XS). But I really don't know where to start. No dev knowledge.
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I can confirm that we don't always get credit for our work. It's really annoying when users post 10 times the same bug with every release, or keep spamming my inbox with the same request over and over again...
Anyway I won't leave soon, I just have a lot of work to do for school, but I'll maintain my Xperia S stuff
As soon as I have some more time I'll also go to making rom from sources maybe
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I can confirm that we don't always get credit for our work. It's really annoying when users post 10 times the same bug with every release, or keep spamming my inbox with the same request over and over again...
Anyway I won't leave soon, I just have a lot of work to do for school, but I'll maintain my Xperia S stuff
As soon as I have some more time I'll also go to making rom from sources maybe
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Would be too much to ask that, if you have any time, to port the Pureness ROM from ThilinaC (if he allows, of course)?
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As soon as I have some more time I'll also go to making rom from sources maybe
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Wanna work on aKernel then? I'd love to get someone to merge all the tweaky stuff
krabappel2548 said:
I can confirm that we don't always get credit for our work. It's really annoying when users post 10 times the same bug with every release, or keep spamming my inbox with the same request over and over again...
Anyway I won't leave soon, I just have a lot of work to do for school, but I'll maintain my Xperia S stuff
As soon as I have some more time I'll also go to making rom from sources maybe
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I can only say that I also find it embarrassing so see the hard work you guys put into what we (should) enjoy. I for one am extremely happy with your work and wouldn't think of "this button's too dark" or "your rom isn't sexy enough" or whatever.
I'm sure many users also appreciate your work, but only the spammers and naggers seems to get the attention.
Whatever, thanks again for the hard work that makes our toys so much better - for free!
krabappel2548 said:
I can confirm that we don't always get credit for our work. It's really annoying when users post 10 times the same bug with every release, or keep spamming my inbox with the same request over and over again...
Anyway I won't leave soon, I just have a lot of work to do for school, but I'll maintain my Xperia S stuff
As soon as I have some more time I'll also go to making rom from sources maybe
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I would love to get some help from you with the continuation of xsx kernel... If you want to help me a little?
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DenmarkRootN00b said:
I would love to get some help from you with the continuation of xsx kernel... If you want to help me a little?
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Why continue the XSX kernel? I'll post some more info on aKernel later, it's going to be... interesting
TL;DR default kernel + universal ramdisk + tweaks and safe OC / UV
K900 said:
Why continue the XSX kernel? I'll post some more info on aKernel later, it's going to be... interesting
TL;DR default kernel + universal ramdisk + tweaks and safe OC / UV
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Because it is good.. But could be better
I will look forward to that
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This sounds good. I'm looking forward to the work you guy's are gonna bring
well we all know that XDA forums is a way to communicate with people all around the world and share opinions and problems.
few days ago, this question cross my mind, so i decide to disuss this question with you my friends.
first, thanks for the developers of our ACE for making plenty of amazing roms.
and with all the respect to them, i'd like to ask them(not all of them) ,that why dont you continue your roms to reach the stable level, and make new another rom instead, so roms become uncompleted,and the Forum become overflow.
so please give me your answers , to know your point of view
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i will tell you why developers quit their Rom
because when it is on v1 two or three guys walk in and start bad comments and screwing it up for everyone and that kills the development inside the dev just because it was a Rom with a few bugs and not too much features they don't even let the developer make some updates first before judging
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السلام عليكم يا اخي
i will tell you why developers quit their Rom
because when it is on v1 two or three guys walk in and start bad comments and screwing it up for everyone and that kills the development inside the dev just because it was a Rom with a few bugs and not too much features they don't even let the developer make some updates first before judging
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That's just half true. These days were over when the thread for ace of spades ROM was closed. But didn't Trent Turvey return with geared android ? The truth is, some people sold their ace, some became busy with life & some discontinue their project because a new ROM with better stability & performance arrived ( For eg., Jellaxy team got off when Wayland_ace brought up cm10.1 ). In any case, some people leave & some new people come. We can just bid them farewell & hope that they return someday. Welcome to the ace forums !
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Blackwolf10 said:
السلام عليكم يا اخي
i will tell you why developers quit their Rom
because when it is on v1 two or three guys walk in and start bad comments and screwing it up for everyone and that kills the development inside the dev just because it was a Rom with a few bugs and not too much features they don't even let the developer make some updates first before judging
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وعليكم السلام اخي
but there is a lot of people who support the devs and give them feedback ,if some noobs post useless posts thats not enough reason to stop the project
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nizar.nasani said:
وعليكم السلام اخي
but there is a lot of people who support the devs and give them feedback ,if some noobs post useless posts thats not enough reason to stop the project
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yes but on early builds usually the noobs are more than those good people
beside another reason is galaxy S4
even in the galaxy S3 thread we lost a lot of developers to the S4 devs want better hardware to work with it seems
most also tAke time between updates
like few nonths
so they hav extra time to create some new stuff
and also most cant test new updates or the roms are already pretty stable/ nothing can be improved
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Everything has its peak and from there it's a downward slope... Ace is an old device, it launched 2.5yrs ago and very few people use te same device for such a long time so obviously the devs themselves have to move on.
Even my device is 2 yrs n 4 mnths old, am plannin to buy a new one soon, similarly v all will move out. Who would develop,mod,contribute, test and for whom!
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The Galaxy Ace wasn't that much of a flagship, yet it lasted so long. This device is lucky.
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"Have you seen it? Love has made me cry cowardly tears..."
Blackwolf10 said:
السلام عليكم يا اخي
i will tell you why developers quit their Rom
because when it is on v1 two or three guys walk in and start bad comments and screwing it up for everyone and that kills the development inside the dev just because it was a Rom with a few bugs and not too much features they don't even let the developer make some updates first before judging
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Well hv u seen those bad ROMs? The 'devs'' just simply add a new launcher/file explorer/a theme on the market and release their ROMs....that's the reason why ppl dislike them lol
Btw AOSP GB ROM must be the rom that has been discontinued mostly....fortunately now Spacecaker is back
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ROMFlasherAce said:
Well hv u seen those bad ROMs? The 'devs'' just simply add a new launcher/file explorer/a theme on the market and release their ROMs....that's the reason why ppl dislike them lol
Btw AOSP GB ROM must be the rom that has been discontinued mostly....fortunately now Spacecaker is back
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that rom was discontineud that much because nobody got it to work xD
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ROMFlasherAce said:
Well hv u seen those bad ROMs? The 'devs'' just simply add a new launcher/file explorer/a theme on the market and release their ROMs....that's the reason why ppl dislike them lol
Btw AOSP GB ROM must be the rom that has been discontinued mostly....fortunately now Spacecaker is back
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hah well there are those other over excited people who piss the devs off by asking for ETA everyday plus i learned my lesson of not to buy anything less than a flagship it is the only way of getting awesome Roms
SpaceCaker said:
that rom was discontineud that much because nobody got it to work xD
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I blame everyone involved in GB AOSP, including myself
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Venomous Viper 119 said:
That's just half true. These days were over when the thread for ace of spades ROM was closed. But didn't Trent Turvey return with geared android ? The truth is, some people sold their ace, some became busy with life & some discontinue their project because a new ROM with better stability & performance arrived ( For eg., Jellaxy team got off when Wayland_ace brought up cm10.1 ). In any case, some people leave & some new people come. We can just bid them farewell & hope that they return someday. Welcome to the ace forums !
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Very well said.We have to move on,that's life.I would like to thanks all the Great Dev's like - Old Droid,Lagloose,Nims11,spacecaker,shaan,Wayland_ace and all the respected Dev's who have release sometime for our ace.You guys rocks.Thanks one again
Blackwolf10 said:
yes but on early builds usually the noobs are more than those good people
beside another reason is galaxy S4
even in the galaxy S3 thread we lost a lot of developers to the S4 devs want better hardware to work with it seems
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Blackwolf10 said:
السلام عليكم يا اخي
i will tell you why developers quit their Rom
because when it is on v1 two or three guys walk in and start bad comments and screwing it up for everyone and that kills the development inside the dev just because it was a Rom with a few bugs and not too much features they don't even let the developer make some updates first before judging
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I soo agree with your statement. I wanted to release so many jelly bean and cm9 roms for ace which would be built exclusively for testers but some noobs thought it was the same work as earlier roms.So I just wanna conclude by saying all cm9 or JB roms would look exactly the same. No matter what the developer contributes in the rom,except theming. So please cooperate with the developers. Its for your own good
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I soo agree with your statement. I wanted to release so many jelly bean and cm9 roms for ace which would be built exclusively for testers but some noobs thought it was the same work as earlier roms.So I just wanna conclude by saying all cm9 or JB roms would look exactly the same. No matter what the developer contributes in the rom,except theming. So please cooperate with the developers. Its for your own good
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Thanks man for your awesome ROMS for our ace.:fingers-crossed: Just go ahead and kindly release roms.Do worry about what noobs will say.They are immature peoples.They should be greatfull to you and others DEV'S like you, who have release such wonderfull roms for our ace.
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Thanks man for your awesome ROMS for our ace.:fingers-crossed:
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Umm great that is adding to my list of positive replies of my work. Expect an update for cm9 soon.
Just quoting an xda rule
Press Thanks button intsead of saying thanks
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Umm great that is adding to my list of positive replies of my work. Expect an update for cm9 soon.
Just quoting an xda rule
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I have already press thanks button.I will once again press once the 8 thanks per day limit expires.Thanks once again GOD BLESS:good:.
Don't worry about the immature people.:fingers-crossed:
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Umm great that is adding to my list of positive replies of my work. Expect an update for cm9 soon.
Just quoting an xda rule
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i thought you just told me that your gonna release miui jb??
what happened?
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nizar.nasani said:
i thought you just told me that your gonna release miui jb??
what happened?
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I told miui jb would release after cm10 rc2. Rc2 is out there and now I would continue to work on my stable cm10 on miuijb
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I told miui jb would release after cm10 rc2. Rc2 is out there and now I would continue to work on my stable cm10 on miuijb
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:good:.