I am seriously considering getting the OG for my next phone. Only one thing worries me, and that is the development community. I have been burned before (HTC Vivid) by buying what looks like a great phone, only to get no support from the dev community. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Do you think the devs are going to come, or is the draw of the N4 too great?
argolfermd said:
I am seriously considering getting the OG for my next phone. Only one thing worries me, and that is the development community. I have been burned before (HTC Vivid) by buying what looks like a great phone, only to get no support from the dev community. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Do you think the devs are going to come, or is the draw of the N4 too great?
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Well, obviously the dev community is here to the extent that Team CodeFire has successfully unlocked the bootloader. There is also a modified stock ROM available (which I am happily using). We should also be expecting AOSP 4.2 pretty soon (heard rumors of possibly this Friday). While there aren't many ROM options at the moment, the dev community is definitely present and I believe it's only a matter of time before we start seeing more support.
I am seriously hoping that the N4 base is able to be easily ported over as mentioned. This would make this phone a Nexus 4 but with LTE and SD!!
Honestly though, I feel LG really has a nice UI on top compared to Sense and TouchWiz.
I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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Hell I've changed phones 10 times this year.
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argolfermd said:
I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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Yeah dude get the og
the best phone ever
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I came from vivid too
the best phone ever
Take this with a grain of salt: as in I hold no liability for this point of view.
The Captivate had identical hardware to the Nexus S and it *STILL* has a strong dev community. There is more that goes into that than just devs but, the similar hardware helps loads.
The phone despite have a very low number of devs still has an unlocked bootloader and I feel safe in saying the devs who are here are fairly high quality.
Even if we never attract a large number of devs/users the reality is we are in a beautiful spot compared to a lot of other devices right now.
It's also important to keep in mind our numbers can still grow big time. The more users we get, the more interested devs we get, the more we all benefit.
And being honest.. if you go play with the phone in store.. you probably will walk out with it... It's really, really, nice. I mean the other phones in store didn't hold a candle to it at bestbuy or at&t.
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Take this with a grain of salt: as in I hold no liability for this point of view.
The Captivate had identical hardware to the Nexus S and it *STILL* has a strong dev community. There is more that goes into that than just devs but, the similar hardware helps loads.
The phone despite have a very low number of devs still has an unlocked bootloader and I feel safe in saying the devs who are here are fairly high quality.
Even if we never attract a large number of devs/users the reality is we are in a beautiful spot compared to a lot of other devices right now.
It's also important to keep in mind our numbers can still grow big time. The more users we get, the more interested devs we get, the more we all benefit.
And being honest.. if you go play with the phone in store.. you probably will walk out with it... It's really, really, nice. I mean the other phones in store didn't hold a candle to it at bestbuy or at&t.
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I did want to NOT like this phone - mainly because it's an LG. But it's stupidly fast and smooth. If we see AOSP 4.2 or CM 10.1 on this beast it will be unstoppable! :cyclops:
I was hell bent on getting the Note 2 for weeks; the day I went to get one, I walked out with the OG and I have no regrets. LGs UI is a welcome change and will tide me over until the custom roms show up.
You totally should get the phone as is. Even with no further dev support. You have root, unlocked bootloader, and the stock rom debloated with tether functionality restored.
There is nothing you can't do with the stock rom. And when Jellybean comes out from LG, it will be debloated again. So even if you don't want the nexus rom or cyanogenmod (you'd be crazy not too), it's the best phone out right now. Even better than the Nexus 4.
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I was hell bent on getting the Note 2 for weeks; the day I went to get one, I walked out with the OG and I have no regrets. LGs UI is a welcome change and will tide me over until the custom roms show up.
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I was seriously wanting the Note II as well because the huge screen but this UI I feels MUCH better then TouchWiz and hardware wise it is an absolute beast. Not to say the Note II isn't fast but nothing is touching this device right now. This phone is screaming fast just imagine when it gets 4.1 or 4.2!
I just couldn't go for the Nexus 4 since it seriously lacks storage space. 8 or 16GB with no SD??? C'MON! Hell, I just installed The Bard's Tale and selected the HD pack and it took up 3.5GB on it's own. Missing LTE even further drives the nail down.
Unfortunately, most people outside of hardware geeks don't know how amazing this beast of a phone is. Then half the one who are hardware gurus are scared because its an LG. I convinced the guy next to me at work to pick up the Sprint version. He absolutely loves it too.
I would use the upgrade that I have on Att.. but the Dev community is very important to have... Only time will tell.. watching with great interest.
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I was microscopically close to pulling the trigger on the SG3 when I decided last minute to get the OG. Never regretted it for a second and I'm still bone stock.
Looking to get this as well It's down to the N4 or this. Really want LTE. Badly. But don't want to get screwed over for dev community, but I highly doubt that will happen. AOSP ROMs are on their way, undoubtedly.
from what i was told with small modifications n4 roms will run just fine on the lgog also. so that opens up way more possibilities if that is true
This is definitely one of the best devices currently since it runs buttery smooth even on ICS. 4.1/2 or CM will make this device unbelievable.
Talked my brother into getting one. He ordered his optimus g today and it was back ordered (The s3 disappeared from amazon for att days ago, probably why.) so im gonna go out on a limb and assume we will get some more people working in here in the near future.
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Honestly though, I feel LG really has a nice UI on top compared to Sense and TouchWiz.
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Agreed. It's almost like they just took AOSP & tweaked it juuuuuust a little bit. I actually like it.
Thanks for all of the great advice. I think you guys have me convinced. Friday is the day, if I can find it locally for $99.
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Thanks for all of the great advice. I think you guys have me convinced. Friday is the day, if I can find it locally for $99.
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Bestbuy will price match Amazon. You should check them out. I got mine on Saturday at BB and they had plenty of stock.
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Been using this phone for nearly 2 weeks now, and for the most part, I've been happy. However, with the Galaxy S III coming in a few weeks, I feel as though I should have at least waited before figuring out which phone I was going to use for the next 2 years. Because of that I decided to return the phone back to Wirefly and go back to using an old Blackberry until I decide to go back to the LTEVO or the GS III. I sold my E4GT so I can't go back to that.
LTEVO Pros
-Beautiful screen
-Excellent build quality and in-hand feel
-Very good (relatively) 3g performance in my area
LTEVO Cons
-Phone performance not that great, especially after opening and switching between a few apps
-Camera is good, but not nearly as good as I had hoped it would be
The two cons are biggies for me. I know for a fact that the sluggishness is related to software, but if you've ever used a Galaxy S II device, you'll realize how spoiled you were by how fast and responsive that phone was. It's an HTC thing; their software sucks compared to Samsung. Even using the T-Mo GSII based on the Qualcomm SoC felt a lot faster than any HTC phone based on the same SoC. I'm not saying TouchWiz is more functional than Sense, I'm just saying it's FASTER, which is 100% true.
The camera is good but the low light performance isn't as great as I had hoped it would be. Comparing to shots from my GSII, LTEVO shots were much more grainy. I also don't like the HTC camera software, and it might even be Sense related. I feel the software isn't fast nor intuitive. I hate the focusing mechanisms. Call me crazy, but I like crosshairs and boxes that help you determine what exactly is being focused. Also, the software isn't responsive. Taking out my phone and snapping a picture isn't very fast. It's acceptable, but like I said, with another great phone around the corner, there's really no reason why I shouldn't test them both and then decide which of the two I'd rather keep.
I'm not trying to bash the LTEVO. I'm sure we'll all agree, the device is far from perfect (all the devices are, in fact). However, I think most of us have the opportunity of trying BOTH phones before finally deciding which to go with. In a sense (no pun intended), the LTEVO delay was a blessing in disguise. Had it been launched on time, we'd be stuck with it. Now we have the chance of putting it up against a very formidable opponent and choosing which phone fits our style better. The GSIII could very well suck, but thankfully we have the luxury of being able to choose the phone we want because of how close together their launches were. I could be returning my phone, just to re-purchase it in a month, but I feel I have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If the GSIII is a rockstar then I'm going to be kicking myself for not getting it instead.
Anyway, does anyone else feel as though they jumped the gun, and will be trying out the GSIII?
I feel this way only a little bit.. luckily best buy has a 30 day exchange. I am going to try both of them. This is a pretty solid phone, but I can not stand the browser always flashing white while scrolling, and the reception issues. I know both probably can get updated to work fine, but it is bothering me. I am going to test out the GSIII and see how the radios perform. If they are not up to speed I will probably stick with this phone and hope the updates come soon enough.
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We are still on a stock ROM since it was released a couple weeks ago. I would imagine some of the issues you describe will be ironed out in upcoming ROM updates from Sprint and HTC. You also forgot other pros about this device like very good battery life, Beats by Dr. Dre, outstanding camera. No I didn't jump the gun. The GS3 will not be perfect at release also. Every device has bugs that need fixing.
If you think the camera isn't that great, take a look at one of the pictures I posted a while back here in the General forum.
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Not at all. I don't use Samsung on principle, they are in bed ith Apple and playing both sides of the market. I have used the SGS phones and they're not better or worse, just different - depending on what you value in a phone. I also don't experience any of the cons you are complaining about, but everybody has different expectations and experiences.
Why do so many people start threads asking for others to take their side in decisions like this? If you don't like the phone, just return it and keep looking until you find something you do like. You don't need 1000 signatures on your petition to return the phone. It's your preference, do what works for you.
Just know that you'll be able to find something wrong with the SGS3 as well if you're honest with yourself.
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No, I dont feel like I jumped the gun. Im happy with my decision, the aesthetics alone was enough of an edge for me personally.
My gf sold her gs2 and bought this phone. Had it for 3 hours then made me.give her my gs2 and take this evo. Its not bad i have a defender case on and do like the feel but i preordered a gs3 and cannot.wait lol. Ill.keep this phone while i try the gs3 but this evo dose get very "laggy" when multi tasking. My gs2 didnt
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The grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side.
That being said, I purchased the EVO LTE the day it came out and I have absolutely zero complaints about it. This phone will easily last me 2 years.
stop the madness. go preach your "i hate this phone" some where else.
why are there so many biotchez in these forums
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Not at all. I don't use Samsung on principle, they are in bed ith Apple and playing both sides of the market. I have used the SGS phones and they're not better or worse, just different - depending on what you value in a phone. I also don't experience any of the cons you are complaining about, but everybody has different expectations and experiences.
Why do so many people start threads asking for others to take their side in decisions like this? If you don't like the phone, just return it and keep looking until you find something you do like. You don't need 1000 signatures on your petition to return the phone. It's your preference, do what works for you.
Just know that you'll be able to find something wrong with the SGS3 as well if you're honest with yourself.
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He is only here to get other people's opinions. I know not every phone is perfect but you are on a forum that deals with alot of phones. People would like to have other peoples opinions of their choice of electronics, kind of like looking at all the reviews of a product.
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popper668 said:
stop the madness. go preach your "i hate this phone" some where else.
why are there so many biotchez in these forums
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Bro, settle down. It has been said before, our phone is only 12 days old. There will be people overanalyzing minor discrepancies and having that "buyer's remorse". Give it another couple weeks and the "WHY DID I BUY THIS?!" posts will go away.
vulcZ said:
Been using this phone for nearly 2 weeks now, and for the most part, I've been happy. However, with the Galaxy S III coming in a few weeks, I feel as though I should have at least waited before figuring out which phone I was going to use for the next 2 years. Because of that I decided to return the phone back to Wirefly and go back to using an old Blackberry until I decide to go back to the LTEVO or the GS III. I sold my E4GT so I can't go back to that.
LTEVO Pros
-Beautiful screen
-Excellent build quality and in-hand feel
-Very good (relatively) 3g performance in my area
LTEVO Cons
-Phone performance not that great, especially after opening and switching between a few apps
-Camera is good, but not nearly as good as I had hoped it would be
The two cons are biggies for me. I know for a fact that the sluggishness is related to software, but if you've ever used a Galaxy S II device, you'll realize how spoiled you were by how fast and responsive that phone was. It's an HTC thing; their software sucks compared to Samsung. Even using the T-Mo GSII based on the Qualcomm SoC felt a lot faster than any HTC phone based on the same SoC. I'm not saying TouchWiz is more functional than Sense, I'm just saying it's FASTER, which is 100% true.
The camera is good but the low light performance isn't as great as I had hoped it would be. Comparing to shots from my GSII, LTEVO shots were much more grainy. I also don't like the HTC camera software, and it might even be Sense related. I feel the software isn't fast nor intuitive. I hate the focusing mechanisms. Call me crazy, but I like crosshairs and boxes that help you determine what exactly is being focused. Also, the software isn't responsive. Taking out my phone and snapping a picture isn't very fast. It's acceptable, but like I said, with another great phone around the corner, there's really no reason why I shouldn't test them both and then decide which of the two I'd rather keep.
I'm not trying to bash the LTEVO. I'm sure we'll all agree, the device is far from perfect (all the devices are, in fact). However, I think most of us have the opportunity of trying BOTH phones before finally deciding which to go with. In a sense (no pun intended), the LTEVO delay was a blessing in disguise. Had it been launched on time, we'd be stuck with it. Now we have the chance of putting it up against a very formidable opponent and choosing which phone fits our style better. The GSIII could very well suck, but thankfully we have the luxury of being able to choose the phone we want because of how close together their launches were. I could be returning my phone, just to re-purchase it in a month, but I feel I have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If the GSIII is a rockstar then I'm going to be kicking myself for not getting it instead.
Anyway, does anyone else feel as though they jumped the gun, and will be trying out the GSIII?
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Nope cause my performance and camera is great.
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This is nothing compared to the EVO3D forums and all the Samsung SGS2 trolls that used to post how much better the SGS2 was.
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Yea these people are getting ridiculous.. You don't like the camera app? What's not to like? I your reaching for that.. Go into the gs3 forums and you will quickly find out that people are having problems with them as well.. Not a phone problem as much as being an early adopter problem.. Can't believe u don't like the camera.. Some people will never be happy.. I'll end with this.. A software update will fix all these issues ppl have..multi tasking being my main one.. But a software update won't give uba metal unibody, kickstand and just an overall better built phone.. Same s4 chip in ppl.. I swear ppl are adhd nowadays
Nah. I don't have any performance issues and the only camera issue I have is that the hardware shutter button is half useless (only holds the focus, does not refocus when half pressed)
Also Deck is working on CM9 for the evo lte so that is a huge pro right there.
The battery life is amazing.
mike.r.olson said:
Bro, settle down. It has been said before, our phone is only 12 days old. There will be people overanalyzing minor discrepancies and having that "buyer's remorse". Give it another couple weeks and the "WHY DID I BUY THIS?!" posts will go away.
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your right. i have taken my meds and have calmed down.
i just dont see the problems these people are pulling out of there a$$es.
I love this phone and the development has barely started, who knows what magic will be dreamed up?? but it will be awesome, I will bet on it.
popper668 said:
your right. i have taken my meds and have calmed down.
i just dont see the problems these people are pulling out of there a$$es.
I love this phone and the development has barely started, who knows what magic will be dreamed up?? but it will be awesome, I will bet on it.
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Those people r called attention whores. They start a stupid post and get their kicks off when someone actually responds.
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I didn't feel like this until i found out about the 2gb ram in the gs3. I like everything about the phone though, just wish it had 2gb. I wanted the best phone spec wise fir longer than a couple weeks.
I understand the agitation since every time I refresh xda I see another one of these posts.. I guess it's just hard for me to imagine wanting a Samsung.. I'm hard core HTC.. And with or previous devices I was willing to concede that maybe Samsung were better in some areas.. IE the gs2 vs my evo 3d.. The gs2 may have been better I guess to some or most of but I wouldn't have it.. I loved my 3d despite all the naysayers.. Anywho I really believe that with the evo LTE that HTC is back on top.. Esp hardware wise.. I dunno how someone could even argue that the gs3 is better in that regard.. Esp. With the same soc...so the software bugs will get worked out.. Just hold out... It's ok to enjoy your phone and focus on what it does well instead
I don't think I jumped the gun, just wish I had a magical gun to make all the Samsung trolls disappear
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Ok folks, don't hate me here for asking this...but, what are some of the reasons to NOT get a Rezound? Also, if you had to do it again(knowing what you know now), would you get something else? If so, which phone would it be?
Thanks all.
The only complaint I've ever had about my Rezound has been the wait for ICS but, between the leaks and the awesome people at XDA, I really can't complain. This phone does everything I want it to do and does it well. I can't think of any reason why I would want another phone.
I wouldn't get it again. There's no cm9, or cdma miui. Only option is sense which gets boring for me after a while. Not to mention all the fighting in the forums. Worst one I've been in yet... It is a good phone though if you like sense
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Rates thread 1*. Reviews brah... Reviews.
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Rates thread 1*. Reviews brah... Reviews.
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ummm.....ok? not sure what that's all about. I'm trying to decide what to get next. That's why I posted the question(s).
I currently have a Razr and am not happy with it. Today is 14th day of my 14-day trial period and will be turning it back in this afternoon. So now I'm stuck trying to decide whether get something right away, or wait for something else and stick it out with my original Incredible. I've been leaning toward the Rezound, but just wanted a bit more input from people that have/had it.
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ummm.....ok? not sure what that's all about. I'm trying to decide what to get next. That's why I posted the question(s).
I currently have a Razr and am not happy with it. Today is 14th day of my 14-day trial period and will be turning it back in this afternoon. So now I'm stuck trying to decide whether get something right away, or wait for something else and stick it out with my original Incredible. I've been leaning toward the Rezound, but just wanted a bit more input from people that have/had it.
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lol just keep buyin phones and return them within their 14 day period until you find a keeper
etiher way, it's either the S3, or the Inc 4g......i'd get a rezound over both of them.
jayochs said:
lol just keep buyin phones and return them within their 14 day period until you find a keeper
etiher way, it's either the S3, or the Inc 4g......i'd get a rezound over both of them.
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Why the Rezound over the Inc 4g?
Also how has the battery life been on the rezound? With this Razr, I still have about 40% left ay the end of a full work day. That's with calls, texting, internet browsing, Facebook, etc.
I havent really found a reason not to like it. It's a great phone. I'm running con Rom and its fantastic. Out of all the smartphones I have had, I like this one the best, for what I use it for. email, texting, tether, fb......
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Only complaint is battery life could be better....gets a little hot sometimes but I overlook it.
If I had my upgrade back, I would probably buy the S3. Mainly because I *think* it will get AOSP sooner. If I'm wrong, then no, I probably wouldn't switch. As my main issue with the rezound is battery. All that being said, I don't dislike sense. I just like to switch back and forth. That and I think it would be nice to have NFC. That's the only reason I considered a Gnex. But I'm not sure if I will like the screen or not as I haven't seen it in person. If I had an upgrade today, I would compare the Rezzy to the S3 and make my decision from there. As I really do like the Rezzy.
However, from here on out I probably won't be buying another HTC after they dropped support of their tablets, some of which had only been out for 6 months. (jetstream) and those customers paid like 800 bucks on contract. To me, that's dirty. And for that, I won't be purchasing another HTC product over. It will only be my second switch since getting my first XV6800. The only non HTC product I've had was the D2, and it was because I came from the TP2 and it was the only android I thought was worthwhile that had a keyboard. Just my .02.
Anyway, the Rezzy is a great phone, and I don't regret my decision. So if you did choose it, I don't think you would either.
Rezound's battery is not great IMO.
Honestly, I would have held my upgrade a bit longer if I could redo it.
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Ok folks, don't hate me here for asking this...but, what are some of the reasons to NOT get a Rezound? Also, if you had to do it again(knowing what you know now), would you get something else? If so, which phone would it be?
Thanks all.
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Battery drain like a Hummer uses gas. Main issue I have, other stuff is nitpicking. Pink softkeys and light leak annoyed me until a dimming mod came out for ICS ROMs. Lower visibility in sunlight than AMOLED or the newer SLCD2 displays. Same material as Gorilla Glass but off brand; may scratch and break a tad easier due to quality, a cheap TPU case at the least to provide a lip on the display and screen protector suggested.
Knowing what I know now, still would pick over the GNex and Razr at time of purchase in November/December. *Today* I may wait for a Inc4G for better battery (but screen visibility in light must be decent for me to give up 720p) or a GSIII for performance if money or contract update factors were not considered.
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What, internet editor reviews? Who in mainstream takes into consideration all the mods and ROMs here? And puts it into context for the current state of affairs, such as new phones and software updates? Don't mind these questions of the community at all during milestone events, best way to get info.
Rating thread 5 stars.
I bought mine at Launch after briefly playing with the other options at the time. I STILL think it was the best choice at the time and I still think it is the best choice out there right now.
Obviously haven't been able to compare side by side with the Incredible 4g or SGS3, but I'm happy waiting to see what happens this fall - hoping HTC will do something really exciting (besides a "phablet").
........ my $.02.
If you like sense and can deal with a not so great battery.... BUY BUY BUY!!!!
If you want AOSP and expect a thriving developer community.... RUN RUN RUN!!!!
That snot to say there is 0 development. There are some really great developers here, Joelz, Newt, and they do some great things with Sense. Scott is really good at releasing debloated and stable ROMs. I'm running his ROM right now actually.
Just don't let the unlocked bootloader fool you. I think most of the developers on VZW contracts switched to the G-Nex because of it's developer friendly nature.
I'm not big on Sense so I regret my decision.
battery drain but u can have bigger battery and get 5 hours screen time
heat - yea too much 44c or more if its summer after 10-20min on web [wifi]
extended battery will help reduce heat and get u far from it
why to buy rezound
screen res
sense4 [thx to newt ]
sdcard [hard to find those days]
removable battery
4.3 not 4.7/8 inch screen [ mostly cant reach the top side of the screen]
not far behind in term of performance
Im currently a Fascinate user trying to decide whether the Rezound is worth my last upgrade before the data plans change next week. thanks to XDA and flashing kernels\ROMS, my Fassy has been the best phone I have ever had. I hate to see it go.
Ive been reading everything here I can on the Rezound v. Gnex (even iphone since my gal finally replaced her original incredible with the 4s yesterday). I really am leaning towards; I think the Rezound is the most underrated phone at VZW right now, I just dont like Sense and the battery issues. But I trust devs to find fixes for each, just like they did for me in the Fassy forum.
For me, Androids are getting too big. I dont need a brick in my pocket. The combo of size and poor reception has me thinking the mod friendly nature of Gnex still isnt worth it and that SIII wont make me happy.
I love droid, is the Rezound worth making a final stand on ?
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I forgot to mention, my primary concerns are with :
1. corporate email use
2. form factor
3. battery life
4. call reception\ data reliability
I dont use most of the multimedia stuff out there
archalon said:
Im currently a Fascinate user trying to decide whether the Rezound is worth my last upgrade before the data plans change next week. thanks to XDA and flashing kernels\ROMS, my Fassy has been the best phone I have ever had. I hate to see it go.
Ive been reading everything here I can on the Rezound v. Gnex (even iphone since my gal finally replaced her original incredible with the 4s yesterday). I really am leaning towards; I think the Rezound is the most underrated phone at VZW right now, I just dont like Sense and the battery issues. But I trust devs to find fixes for each, just like they did for me in the Fassy forum.
For me, Androids are getting too big. I dont need a brick in my pocket. The combo of size and poor reception has me thinking the mod friendly nature of Gnex still isnt worth it and that SIII wont make me happy.
I love droid, is the Rezound worth making a final stand on ?
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I forgot to mention, my primary concerns are with :
1. corporate email use
2. form factor
3. battery life
4. call reception\ data reliability
I dont use most of the multimedia stuff out there
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If those are your most important features, you might want to get a Razor Maxx. The best thing about the Rezound is the multimedia stuff. If you will be outside alot, do not get the Rezound.
I was in the same situation as you. I first got a Razr Maxx and did not like it, mainly because of the screen. I returned it and got the Rezound. In my opinion, the Rezound is an excellent device in its own because I have practically nothing to complain about. Battery life is according to everyone's usage habits and I think it's not bad. Camera is excellent and performance is awesome. The only thing I don't like about it is that it can be complicated for a non-techie guy to root it and have S-off (I am still trying to get S-off with no success). I don't really care for AOSP because a de-sensed Rom with Apex or Nova launcher in my opinion is better. However, right now, if I were you, I would hold on to my upgrade and wait for the Samsung Galaxy S III. Definitely. I would have gone with the Galaxy S II already if it was on Verizon.
I can honestly say that it was the best phone for the money. That's really the only reason I bought mine. Otherwise, I would've gone for a Galaxy Nexus.
Thanks for the input; I talked vzw into letting me upgrade a month early due to 'technical issues' with corporate email never quite working right, which has been a dissapointment (hasnt worked right on fassy since eclair.....). The catch is, I can upgrade to any android, but not an iphone.
Ill strongly consider the SIII as a preorder, and rezound is my second choice at this point. Would have to do either in the next few days to keep my grandfathered alltell unlimited plan. The S looks big for me however, would be nice to see it in person first
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Personally, ill never own a motorola again. Nothing but problems with them and of I was tempted, locked bootloaders are a dealbreaker
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HTC has been really struggling lately, and now with OnLive costing them $40 million, things are definitely not looking good.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think we're going to start seeing the effects of all of this loss soon? I'm worried about new devices releasing, as well as updates being given to existing devices, if the company keeps falling like this.
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HTC has been really struggling lately, and now with OnLive costing them $40 million, things are definitely not looking good.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think we're going to start seeing the effects of all of this loss soon? I'm worried about new devices releasing, as well as updates being given to existing devices, if the company keeps falling like this.
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Ouch, definitely doesn't sound good. Not sure if they will be able to stay in it or not...depending on how this whole Apple/Samsung thing turns out, they may be able to use it to their advantage, but it sounds like they've got some pretty big issues to deal with. I think I'm already pretty much resigned to getting whatever Samsung's offering is when I'm eligible for my next upgrade. I had a tough time choosing this time around anyway, so I figure I'll give them a shot (never owned a Samsung)...but it sounds like that may be the "only" option if things don't improve for HTC.
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Good, sometimes drastic things need to happen before a company makes drastic changes necessary.
I guess it is what it is. I am happy with the EVO LTE. I'm going with a Nexus next time around since they will hopefully be beyond the stupid pentile screens by then. Maybe we will get lucky and HTC will get a Nexus at some point in the future.
If rim and Nokia are still in business I think htc will be OK for now.. they do need to start making better decisions and listening to their customers ..they are still turning almost a billion dollar profit this quarter ..still pretty good
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how can they be making a profit and collapsing at the same time
do you even read and think before you decide to spread such garbage?
They're hurting, but I have high hopes that they come back even stronger. They need to make a few adjustments to the way they work, and it can make all the difference. For one, be as dev friendly as they used to be. Second, less device models as they made it seem like they were going to do. They need to cut as much variants out, and focus on keeping close to the same phone amongst different carriers. That's my opinion.
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They're hurting, but I have high hopes that they come back even stronger. They need to make a few adjustments to the way they work, and it can make all the difference. For one, be as dev friendly as they used to be. Second, less device models as they made it seem like they were going to do. They need to cut as much variants out, and focus on keeping close to the same phone amongst different carriers. That's my opinion.
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i agree with your last point
Haha I love how people read a comment in an article and then talk like it's their comment.
You guys don't think a company can collapse when turning a profit? Really? How about when your profits rapidly decline quarterly, and the government is helping bail you out? Look at the trends, and you'll see why they're collapsing.
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I think HTC needs to start making phones out of plastic cause obviously no one cares what they're made off cause no one's buying them.
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It's funny because you probably didn't even read the article.
They're making a profit, but they're still a shadow of their former glory. Their market share has plummeted and it isn't showing any signs of improving. Just because they're still pulling in money doesn't mean that everything is sunshine and rainbows for them.
HTC is still a profitable company, but with such relentless competition from Samsung and Apple, their numbers are dropping fast enough that banks are beginning to get very nervous. This could quite literally be the beginning of the end.
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Do you even read and think before you post such garbage?
This indeed sucks but at this present time all i can ask for is that they release Jelly Bean before they close the doors..My wife sold her iPhone and bought the Galaxy S3 and i've been playing with it here and there and its an awesome phone...I was amazed that a stupid kitty cat live wallpaper runs flawlessly with out slowing down the scrolling on the phone..I think I may have seen the light and sipped on some of the Kool-aid..Im kinda envious
HP just took a multibillion dollar write down because of the EDS acquisition, but this was an excellent strategic investment. HTC is doing the same thing. They might be down, but they're not out.
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This indeed sucks but at this present time all i can ask for is that they release Jelly Bean before they close the doors..My wife sold her iPhone and bought the Galaxy S3 and i've been playing with it here and there and its an awesome phone...I was amazed that a stupid kitty cat live wallpaper runs flawlessly with out slowing down the scrolling on the phone..I think I may have seen the light and sipped on some of the Kool-aid..Im kinda envious
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I don't think that HTC is going to go out of business. I'm hoping that they can come up with something that can stabilize them a bit. In my opinion they need to make like Samsung and give their phones more of an identity.
They need try harder to keep their phones in order instead of releasing 20 different devices. They've taken a step in the right direction with the One series, but the naming is way too confusing for most people to be able to tell what the phone is all about. HTC needs a way to make a budget, mid-end, and high-end phone that isn't different on every carrier and that represents itself well.
With the One series, you have the One X, the One XL, the One S, the One V, and I'm sure that the upcoming/rumored One "XL+" (or whatever we call it) will join that lineup as well. The names just have no way of differentiating themselves without looking into the specs. If you walked up to someone and said, "Do you want the One V or the One S?" They're going to say, "Huh? What do the letters mean?"
But with all of the growth that Samsung has seen, I'm not sure that HTC will ever be able to catch up.
That settles it...I am buying a spare Rezound
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This indeed sucks but at this present time all i can ask for is that they release Jelly Bean before they close the doors..My wife sold her iPhone and bought the Galaxy S3 and i've been playing with it here and there and its an awesome phone...I was amazed that a stupid kitty cat live wallpaper runs flawlessly with out slowing down the scrolling on the phone..I think I may have seen the light and sipped on some of the Kool-aid..Im kinda envious
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Haha. I've been getting a lot of hate around here cause I crossed over to the side. Im glad someone with more credibility is seeing the light. I still get the "you don't know sh*it" when i mention 2gb of ram makes a difference.
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Haha. I've been getting a lot of hate around here cause I crossed over to the side. Im glad someone with more credibility is seeing the light. I still get the "you don't know sh*it" when i mention 2gb of ram makes a difference.
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Doesn't seem to make a differance while running cm10.. the issue is In sense
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Doesn't seem to make a differance while running cm10.. the issue is In sense
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I agree. But Sense is why most brought the phone, right?
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No... Many people on this site will likely say they bought it for the hardware, not software. This is a development forum. We know Sense can be ripped away (or at least shrink and improved).
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Hey guys, so yesterday I made the switch to Sprint (it's waaay cheaper than VZW here..) and in return I got rid of my Rezound in exchange for the beautiful HTC One. I'm gonna miss all the talented developers here but I'm gonna miss Snuzzo's kernel and how helpful he is the most . It sucked selling my Rezound after having it for over a year and a half. I came from an iPhone to the Rezound, so everyone here made my first Android experience a great one. The reasoning behind it is because my Rezound's digitizer plug-in was messed up after replacing my screen twice, my front housing was peeling off from opening it, the vibrating motor was broke and the battery life was..well, we know our Rezounds and their batteries lol. I never post but I feel like I'm friends with everyone here just because this community is so nice and helpful. I'm gonna miss you all .
PS the One is amazing. I'm not as wowed as I was with my Rezound because I'm already familiar with Sense and Android, but it feels great in my hands and looks amazing.
I just bought a pair of Nexus 4s for the wife and I and switched to T-Mobile. This is definitely an awesome little dev community. Many thanks to all!
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First; thank you for the kind words BOTH OF YOU. Good to see I helped you. Second; Who says I won't be doing anything on the Htc One?
I will definitely miss this community too! 3 days before I leave for basic training, my battery goes south and the earliest I can get a new battery is sometime on Tuesday...when I'll already be on a plane to Ft. Jackson. Bought a GS3 on CL, and I must say, the battery life is so phenomenal compared to the Rezound. 12+ hours compared to my average 4-6.
Will definitely miss the devs! I've been here since launch day in November 2011. My oh my how far development has come!!
And now Jellybean is out! I gotta stop monitoring this board cause now I'm hurting lol
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And now Jellybean is out! I gotta stop monitoring this board cause now I'm hurting lol
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See you on the other side, thanks snuzzo, Chad, neo, countershrike, Hawk, newt, and all the others for the great development. I'm glad to see Scott working on the att htc one. This phone is amazing
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Just picked up my 3rd Rezound... a minty used one with a ton of accessories and extra batteries, for $155. Nothing about this phone makes it anywhere near obsolete, but you guys just keep chasing after the latest, greatest shiny new device, and keep spending $$$. The smarter ones will be around to pick up your dirt cheap discarded leftovers. I'm still on my very first Rezound (purchased on Black Friday 2011), I just gave a used "spare" to my wife after her old dumb phone died, and now I have another backup/experimenting phone for cheap.
THANK YOU!
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Just picked up my 3rd Rezound... a minty used one with a ton of accessories and extra batteries, for $155. Nothing about this phone makes it anywhere near obsolete, but you guys just keep chasing after the latest, greatest shiny new device, and keep spending $$$. The smarter ones will be around to pick up your dirt cheap discarded leftovers. I'm still on my very first Rezound (purchased on Black Friday 2011), I just gave a used "spare" to my wife after her old dumb phone died, and now I have another backup/experimenting phone for cheap.
THANK YOU!
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Sounds like someone is jealous. Don't be hating because some of us can afford the latest and greatest when it comes out .
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Sounds like someone is jealous. Don't be hating because some of us can afford the latest and greatest when it comes out .
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Not jealousy, sounds more like loyal and being a money saver. I do agree, why waste your cash .....
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Sounds like someone is jealous. Don't be hating because some of us can afford the latest and greatest when it comes out .
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Ahhh... I see. Common sense is the new Jealousy. :silly:
I could pay cash for a new One every month, and never miss the money. I don't live in my mom's basement, either. Fact remains, the Rezound is still a great device, and other than the lemming-like desire to have the "latest and greatest" (for no other reason than the dread of feeling left out of the stampede), there's no real reason to switch from it.
BTW... how much better was that Nexus than your Rezound? (my wife has one for a company-issued phone, and it SUCKS compared to her Rezound)
I am thinking of getting an S4 to replace my Rezound and use the Rezound to replace my D1. That way I can still have the best of both worlds.
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Ahhh... I see. Common sense is the new Jealousy. :silly:
I could pay cash for a new One every month, and never miss the money. I don't live in my mom's basement, either. Fact remains, the Rezound is still a great device, and other than the lemming-like desire to have the "latest and greatest" (for no other reason than the dread of feeling left out of the stampede), there's no real reason to switch from it.
BTW... how much better was that Nexus than your Rezound? (my wife has one for a company-issued phone, and it SUCKS compared to her Rezound)
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I liked my Nexus way better vs my Rezound. Battery life was better, call quality was great, no creaky back and no washed out colors like the LCD on the Rezound. I do admit that the display on the Rezound is more crisp. That and all AOSP roms atm on the Nexus are way smoother for now. The only reason I dropped the Nexus is cause the screens would keep crapping out on me. Once developement starts firing up for the S4 bye bye S3! Plus if you have the financial standing to buy a new device and have enough left over in your bank for rainy days why care? Spend your money on things you enjoy! Spoil your wife and kids! When you croak and have a nice life insurance policy they'll be set for some time.
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Not jealousy, sounds more like loyal and being a money saver. I do agree, why waste your cash .....
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Some of us have more disposable income vs others and that's just an unfair fact of life .
Again, even though I myself CAN AFFORD to get a new device. I've not had a reason to. I guess assets and a word call saving doesnt apply when you said "disposable". Just save the "disposable" income. May need it one day.
What I am saying is go for it, but don't fill my mouth with words. Again, jealous, heck no.
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Bolded and underlined. Which seems you are implying we are of lesser intelligence if we decide to spend full retail on new devices?
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When we're talking about a devices that are hobbled by the inability to replace batteries when they go dead (planned obsolescence), or upgrade memory (thus forcing users into relying on cloud storage and higher data charges), then yes... it is a lesser intelligence issue. You're playing into the provider's hands, rather than calling your own shots. (OOOoooo.... look!! SHINY!!!)
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Again, even though I myself CAN AFFORD to get a new device. I've not had a reason to. I guess assets and a word call saving doesnt apply when you said "disposable". Just save the "disposable" income. May need it one day.
What I am saying is go for it, but don't fill my mouth with words. Again, jealous, heck no.
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I was never implying you were jealous. To each their own when it comes to what they do with their $$$. I just think freedoom is a **** when he is stating someone is of lesser intelligence for hopping on a newer device of their choice. I am directing the comment purely at him.
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When we're talking about a devices that are hobbled by the inability to replace batteries when they go dead (planned obsolescence), or upgrade memory (thus forcing users into relying on cloud storage and higher data charges), then yes... it is a lesser intelligence issue. You're playing into the provider's hands, rather than calling your own shots. (OOOoooo.... look!! SHINY!!!)
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This is why I choose which shiny new device suits my needs before I buy it and drool. Plus I have unlimited data so idgaf about using cloud solutions . Some people don't care about swapping out batteries.. As most of them will already have a newer device before the battery goes bad. Lol you really think you're calling your own shots when you're contracted with a carrier? I rest my case.
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I was never implying you were jealous. To each their own when it comes to what they do with their $$$. I just think freedoom is a **** when he is stating someone is of lesser intelligence for hopping on a newer device of their choice. I am directing the comment purely at him.
This is why I choose which shiny new device suits my needs before I buy it and drool. Plus I have unlimited data so idgaf about using cloud solutions . Some people don't care about swapping out batteries.. As most of them will already have a newer device before the battery goes bad. Lol you really think you're calling your own shots when you're contracted with a carrier? I rest my case.
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I'm not under contract. I rest mine!
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I'm not under contract. I rest mine!
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No contract with unlimited data oh baby!
Hello All,
Wanted to post about the process I went through that eventually landed me on The One. I read everything I could for the last three months about the two phones and wound up more confused then decided on which to upgrade to. I finally decided that I need to S**t or get off the pot, so I went with the S4 because:
1) I read more positive reviews about it's camera then the One's, and for me the smartphone is a Camera that I can make calls on, not the other way around.
2) I had never owned a Samsung phone and I wanted to check it out.
3) I was worried about the lack of updates from HTC when I had the Rezound. Though I am a member of Elevate, updates have been my biggest gripe with HTC and I didn't want to get stuck with another unsupported phone.
4) lack of SD card and removable battery on the One. Not deal breakers, but factors.
So, my wife, son and I got out hiking on Saturday and I took about 60 shots on the S4. They looked great on the phone, but TERRIBLE on the PC. I had hiked in the same park last year about the same time with my son and had taken a lot of the same shots on my Rezound so I found those and compared them...The Rezound shots were much better in many instances. So I decided to take the Rezound and S4 and make the settings the same. I then took about 35 comparison shots. Almost half the time, the Rezound shots were better. That really irritated me so I searched the web for comparison images (S4 & the One) and most of the time they were so close it didn't matter.
I had bought the One through Verizon's Edge program. I know it's not the smartest thing I ever did, but I did it and I'm cool with it. They exchanged the S4 for the One and I feel pretty good about it. If I want I can move up in a year to whatever is the hottest thing at that point. I lost my unlimited, but on my phone only and they gave me 6 gigs for the same cost of my unlimited. I've never gone over six gigs before, and I can tweak my usage a little so I never have to worry about that. Besides, my wife still has her unlimited and I can switch with her if I really miss it.
As soon as I made a call with the One, I knew it was the right choice. I'm glad I tried the S4 but I really didn't like it. It just didn't measure up in so many ways. TouchWiz is so cartoonish, I felt like I should be sitting at the kids table! The screen was awesome! But so is the One's, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything there.
I figured I would share the Experience here in the Rezound forum because it played such a big part in my deciding the S4 wasn't for me!
Peace People!
thanks for your take on the two phones. I am considering the S4 above the One right now coming from a Rezound currently. I would like to know more about pros/cons of both and decide then. Hearing about the picture quality of the S4 might be problematic, but I'd have to see other cases of the same problem to be convinced myself. Have you compared your S4 photos with those of others who have an S4 to see if they have the same problem?
When I was at the Verizon store they had a one and a s4 next to each other so it was easy to compare. I took photos on both and the one looked crisper and clearer. I don't know if its because I am use to sense but it felt smoother than touchwiz. Plus I like the feel of the one in my hand. I missed how the original moto droid felt in my hand from its all metal body. The s4 just didn't wow me and disappointed me in others. I am sure its a good phone but not for me. If you think HTC is weak in updates for their phone Samsung is far worse. Droid charge got like a few updates and that's it. Where as the thunderbolt went from froyo to GB to ICS. Sure it took awhile to get to ICS but at least it did get it. Sammy seems to just drop all support and just build a new phone knowing people will do the iphone effect of selling their old device for the new one.
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Yeah, I love the way it feels too! I really didn't want to buy the S4 based on the in store comparison, but I was trusting reviews because I shoot a lot of nature and I couldn't simulate that in store. After using the One for a week, it is every bit as good as the S4 Camera wise and blows it away in almost every other respect... So glad I switched!
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Yeah, I love the way it feels too! I really didn't want to buy the S4 based on the in store comparison, but I was trusting reviews because I shoot a lot of nature and I couldn't simulate that in store. After using the One for a week, it is every bit as good as the S4 Camera wise and blows it away in almost every other respect... So glad I switched!
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If you're into shooting nature or anything that moves really, play with Zoe on your one, you'll probably end up loving it.
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Khayos said:
If you're into shooting nature or anything that moves really, play with Zoe on your one, you'll probably end up loving it.
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I've dabbled some with it...Need to do more...Fun feature, especially for my son!
Thanks for the review, there's one thing holding up getting the One for me though, no unlockable bootloader.
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Thanks for the review, there's one thing holding up getting the One for me though, no unlockable bootloader.
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Read around the Verizon HTC one forum, you will see someone found a way to S-Off. Better than bootloader unlock.
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Read around the Verizon HTC one forum, you will see someone found a way to S-Off. Better than bootloader unlock.
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I have, it requires a java card. It's either shell out the money for one or pay/beg/get a favor from someone who has one.
I decided that I love the phone even if it is never rooted, but I trust it will be... These guys are good!
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I'm actually probably going with the S3 or S4. HTC One seems to be harder to find deals for with my credit. S3's are only $100 now, so this college student may snap at that.
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And my One is now S-off! So glad I went this way... But the truth is that I am still thrilled with the stock experience. I have roms waiting to be flashed, but I just don't want to!
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And my One is now S-off! So glad I went this way... But the truth is that I am still thrilled with the stock experience. I have roms waiting to be flashed, but I just don't want to!
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What about the stock experience thrills you compared to original android?
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What about the stock experience thrills you compared to original android?
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The simplest answer is that it works so well...It's lightning quick already, so I don't need mods to eliminate lag. Everything does what is supposed to.
But the truth about flashing other Roms is that there is almost always some buggy element. I have only run a handful in three years that didn't. I rooted both my Incredible and Rezound because there were features out there that I couldn't get on those phones.I have everything I could want on the Stock One.
If I had a Nexus device, I would enjoy that experience, but I also would miss the TV app in Sense 5 and believe it or not, I am having a blast with Zoe and some of the other features of the Sense 5 Camera. It would require too many trade offs to go to Stock Android.
Having said that, I am a flashaholic, and I have flashed one Rom since the previous post. Frankly, battery wasn't as good, and the 4g signal wasn't consistent. And that was a Rom that was very close to Stock. I know I could reflash and do other things that might fix it, or I could just go back to Stock, which I did... I'll flash other Roms, my curiosity is too strong not to, but it's great to know that Stock is so rock solid to come back to!
How's the camera compared to rezound? Also how is the scrolling lag compared to the iPhone?
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Lag? I know naught of you speak? Seriously, I don't have an iPhone so I can't compare it, but this thing blows my old Rezound out of the water, and it is every bit as fast as the S4 was.
As for the Camera, I love it. It does some things better then the Rezound (low light) and I have been able to crop with no problems. There's a learning curve but it didn't take long. I even have that purplish tint at times, but changing the iso usually makes it go away...
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