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Hey guys,a question about the SGS2 popped into my head earlier that I had forgotten to care about.
How durable is the GS2?I mean without silicon cases etc.It depends on the quality of the plastic used.
I know that the screen is pretty durable for sure(isn't it Gorilla Glass?),but what about the rest of the phone.From what I've heard,the original Galaxy S was pretty durable(heard stories of phones flying out of cars' windows etc),and my current Desire HD is really durable("really" is there because I have personal experience from the phone,not because it's more durable than the GS or something).
I intend to take care of my phone(Who doesn't take care of a 600 euro phone? ),but you cannot never be too sure!
Any feedback WITHOUT FLAMING OR HATING INCLUDED (taking precautions here as some people tend to defend the awesomeness of Sammy's phones with far too much zeal) is welcome.
Still eagerly waiting for the phone to arrive!
A lot of people think plastic automatically equates to bad build quality. Well, the Galaxy S II is proof that isn't the case -- it doesn't creek and there are numerous reports of people dropping theirs with no marks.
To sum up - does it feel as tough in the hand as my old HTC Leo? No. But does that mean it isn't? Not necessarily. I have had mine for a month with no build quality issues and long may it continue.
Durable = lasting in spite of hard wear or frequent use
So time alone will tell one month most definitely will not .
jje
Well,I am happy to see you two guys here(You ermmm...answered in a not so wanted manner in my other thread,remember?).Perhaps we started wrong,but never is too late now,is it?
I never said that plastic means build quality is bad.It's just more likely to mean so than aluminium is,because there are various qualities of plastic and no one can guarantee(is it spelled like that?I'm studying atm so my English is a bit out of the ordinary,too many mistakes,sorry) that a manufacturer uses high quality plastic.
However it doesn't need to scream quality.My father has a Panasonic DSLR which is mainly(if not completely) mad of plastic.It has fallen on soil,water,rocks(in a cave-holy sh*t that man! ) and other surfaces numerous time and there is only a tiny(Like the tip of a nail) piece broken from the lens' cover.Nothing serious considering it's been going through that stuff for about four years now!
What I wanna say is that the GS2 might prove far better than most of us believe.
Did you guys own a GS1?What are your experiences from it?I mean apart from the usual problems with the device,like gps.
Again,thanks for your replies guys!I hope we will be cooperating and understanding each other better in the future!
(I hope I don't sound like a politician,but we have to be polite,don't we? )
JJEgan said:
Durable = lasting in spite of hard wear or frequent use
So time alone will tell one month most definitely will not .
jje
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This deserves its own reply...
Don't say one month won't tell anything.Give a phone to my sister.If it survives the month,it's most likely extremely lucky or extremely well made!
Like the original sgs id say its a lot more durable than it feels- Ive droped mine already, but didnt get a scratch
Yes i droped mine within 10mins of opening the box lol it bounced but no marks chips cracks scratches nothing. On the other hand i droped my desire hd when i had it and that gained a dent in the top both droped in my living room so they both took the same tumble and hit the same floor.
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Hard to say, wait some weeks for more stories to develop
I'd say since there aren't many (any?) people screaming "ONOES IT BROKE ALREADY", it's probably made pretty well.
If it had truly bad build quality there would surely be some people complaining about it by now!
Once I got mine, I thought it felt like a toy and got a case for it immediately, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be able to survive a drop. It just means my financial paranoia got the better of me
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I'd say since there aren't many (any?) people screaming "ONOES IT BROKE ALREADY", it's probably made pretty well.
If it had truly bad build quality there would surely be some people complaining about it by now!
Once I got mine, I thought it felt like a toy and got a case for it immediately, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be able to survive a drop. It just means my financial paranoia got the better of me
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Yeah,that last part is exactly how I feel!
Joking aside you are right.We haven't even heard of someone bricking their device!How strange is that?Do idiots not buy the SGS2?Or is the software THAT easy to recover from anything?
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Hopefully I'm getting mine tomorrow but If you look at the situation in which you'll drop the GSII logically.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, btw )
If you drop it, it's lighter, meaning it has less momentum on it, meaning that there's less force acting on the phone when it goes "smashing" into the ground and is there's less force, it's more likely to survive.
OFC not sure how that situation will take place in real life though.
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Yes i droped mine within 10mins of opening the box lol it bounced but no marks chips cracks scratches nothing. On the other hand i droped my desire hd when i had it and that gained a dent in the top both droped in my living room so they both took the same tumble and hit the same floor.
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Well,in a similar scenario my DHD kinda damaged the floor more than the floor damaged it.
Well,comparing the two isn't really that much fair.See,the way I see it,the biggest advantage of the plastic used on with the Galaxy series is that the reduced weight of the phones makes the force with which they hit the ground,should they fall,much smaller.And,using common sense,this means less damage.
That is my opinion though!
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Hopefully I'm getting mine tomorrow but If you look at the situation in which you'll drop the GSII logically.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, btw )
If you drop it, it's lighter, meaning it has less momentum on it, meaning that there's less force acting on the phone when it goes "smashing" into the ground and is there's less force, it's more likely to survive.
OFC not sure how that situation will take place in real life though.
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Yeah,whatever you said.You beat me to it.Damn,I should start replying from my PC more!
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One more question guys...
How is Samsung with their warranties?Do they honour it as they should?And how do they treat people with rooted devices?
HTC is well known for the fact that they are quite good with their warranties so,coming from a long line of HTCs,I'd like to know about Samsung too.
Thanks!
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It feels fragile, but like someone just said the amount we've paid for them does instill some paranoia. I had my first test yesterday. In a Case-Mate Tough Case, the phone fell out of my hand, dropped arrow straight vertically and landed on one top corner. It then flopped on its face. This was on a concrete floor. I know the case saved it, but regardless the shock it took was pretty severe. So it's not frail and I'm now a Case-Mate fan.
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One more question guys...
How is Samsung with their warranties?Do they honour it as they should?And how do they treat people with rooted devices?
HTC is well known for the fact that they are quite good with their warranties so,coming from a long line of HTCs,I'd like to know about Samsung too.
Thanks!
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Are you buying sim-free? And I haven't heard any rants about warranty, so I'm assuming it's good.
Plastic definitely has it's advantages. When you think of all the shattered iP4's, and the comments above about dented aluminum HTC's it might be a blessing. That and of course weight has me thinking maybe the Sensations hand feel might not be so great when it's out of your hands....and into gravity's
I dropped mine 12 days ago.
Took it out of my pocket whilst hurrying to get to a meeting I was late for, juggled it, managing to launch it to about 5ft in the air before it landed totally flat, face down on concrete with some small stones scattered across it.
That shattered the glass and broke the LCD screen. NO damage or marks anywhere else. It has been in for repair (£90 quoted) with the official Samsung service centre in Luton since Saturday 21st. Samsung are taking their time sending the replacement.
Just a little bit annoying!
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Are you buying sim-free? And I haven't heard any rants about warranty, so I'm assuming it's good.
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Yep,I'm always buying sim-free.I hope they are at least as good as HTC.If not...Well,I hope I don't fry my phone(I'm a heavy overclocker)!
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I dropped mine 12 days ago.
Took it out of my pocket whilst hurrying to get to a meeting I was late for, juggled it, managing to launch it to about 5ft in the air before it landed totally flat, face down on concrete with some small stones scattered across it.
That shattered the glass and broke the LCD screen. NO damage or marks anywhere else. It has been in for repair (£90 quoted) with the official Samsung service centre in Luton since Saturday 21st. Samsung are taking their time sending the replacement.
Just a little bit annoying!
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Aha...Then Gorilla Glass isn't made to endure severe abuse!
Although I think 90 pounds for the screen is a little too much...
Ok so i just heard the news, aparently the new iPad has a heading issue, when charging and playing games it can overheat to over 100 degrees!
Just thought i'd share the laugh, i sure did giggle at that one.
See? GPS issues dont seem so bad after all!
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Ok so i just heard the news, aparently the new iPad has a heading issue, when charging and playing games it can overheat to over 100 degrees!
Just thought i'd share the laugh, i sure did giggle at that one.
See? GPS issues dont seem so bad after all!
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I think you got your units mixed up. The reports are that it's heating up to just over 100 F.
edit: I just noticed that you caught your error.
ya the original news report i heard had it mixed up, but still thats pretty hot, i wouldnt want to be holding that, or accidentally fall asleep when a game is running, might cause some damage
this is the beginnings of a huge issue down the road for new ipads. watch what i tell you. those devices won't last long St all constantly running at those high temps. people will get sick of their device shutting down on them and message popping up saying device needs to cool down. one thing about apple fans, they love to complain when there is an issue and they will let it be known. so expect this to continue to get major tech press coverage as time goes on. this could eventually become a fire hazard if its left on plugged in. device runs so hot and causes a fire or shortcircuit the wall adapter, which could cause a fire. everyday at those temps and new Ipad chips won't last longer than a few months before burning out or burning some other component up. some even reported half of the glass getting very hot to the touch. one reason could be because apple is pumping 2x the power into display to keep it running. it uses a very un-efficient way of back lighting the display. I saw it in a tech article where they broke down new Ipad display saying its good but far from perfect. Samsung has to jump through hoops to make that tricky display work.
Well, I exchanged my iPad 2 for the kids at local BB. Upgraded to iPad 3.
Few days of use and my little girl complained to me that the it actually burnt her. I guess she had it laying on her lap.
I didn't have a cover on it. I took the piece of crap back and demanded a refund. They have the old iPad 2 back now.
Apple fans need to cool off. *Badum tsh*
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I can life with suboptimal wifi reception as long as I dont burn my precious lap.
But yeah applefanboys feel the "heat of excitement" about their device... *bad one tsh*
Put some kippers on the barbie Sheila
iBarbeque
Seriously though, hope they sort it out, for the customers sake
I guess you might say that the new iPad is a...
(puts on sunglasses)
hot seller.
YEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!
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35°C ? Not much .. my prime is much hotter when I'm playing for 2hours withs super ips mode. Same this for sgs - 50°C or hotter. 35°C is not so much.
Wait a minute. A hundred degrees F? So a whole degree and a half higher than normal body temperature.
Is this a problem in devices the size of tablets? I'm new to tablets, but that's nothing compared with the old 939 CPU in my tower.
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Well, I exchanged my iPad 2 for the kids at local BB. Upgraded to iPad 3.
Few days of use and my little girl complained to me that the it actually burnt her. I guess she had it laying on her lap.
I didn't have a cover on it. I took the piece of crap back and demanded a refund. They have the old iPad 2 back now.
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seriorously? that is crazy. you should've sued apple for it and let all the news media know so it can get serious press on it...lol. time for apple to be exposed. things are heating up on this issue...lmao
Ya, it can be uncomfortable for some. My prime runs nice and cool reguardless what games im playing.
I gladly take a reduced screen resolution for increased performance, not to mention the increased heat is going to cause damage to the battery.
And there are some reviews where if you have it in direct sunlight and start something intense the increased heat from just being outside can cause it to shut down!
You might not think one or two degrees makes a difference but consider if you have a body temp of 100F you likely feel really sick. If your body temp hits 116 like these ipads are getting, you are likely dead.
Anyways, i hope you all had a good smile at this, too much negitivity towards the prime on this forum hopefully this lightened the mood a little
100 degree must mean Celsius as most cpu run between 50 to 80c. 100c would be out of control lol. If it is burning her lap its more than 100f. Although, if the case is running 100f without proper cooling the cpu would run MUCH MUCH higher.
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100 degree must mean Celsius as most cpu run between 50 to 80c. 100c would be out of control lol. If it is burning her lap its more than 100f. Although, if the case is running 100f without proper cooling the cpu would run MUCH MUCH higher.
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Ya, the CPU is likely much higher. The reports I have seen are saying the case itself is reaching 116 degrees F (specifically after running Infinity Blade for 45 minutes). Also, under normal usage the iPad 3 runs 10 degrees hotter than the iPad 2.
I can totally see this blowing up in apple's face (I can only hope). This may result in a recall depending on how it plays out. Because it's not just the heat thing, they are saying it is drawing so much juice while playing a game for example that the battery won't even charge when plugged in. And as others have mentioned, heat and electronics don't mix well.
I don't want to start Apple bashing, but the list of problems with the 'New' iPad put the TP problems into perspective.
There are reports that the battery won't charge:
http://gizmodo.com/5894988/people-are-having-trouble-charging-their-new-ipads?tag=apple
& there are WiFi problems:
http://gizmodo.com/5895145/does-the-new-ipad-have-wi+fi-reception-problems
It seems that many devices can have (widespread?) issues. Unfortunately, some people on these forums seem to be exaggerating the Primes problems and it becomes very difficult to properly evaluate the situation. The problems with the Prime have been magnified to a hysterical level, I wonder if the same will happen with the iPad...?
I hope the problem with the heat is a result of the GPU. That put all of these people to the rest who complain about Tegra 3's performance. It's easy to build a big chip with such a performance. But it's complicated to control the heat and power consumption.
Icook..best seling Ipad app
Now I just have to get an Ipad 3...cant wait for the first developer to make an app called Icook, can you imagine taking a morning break from playing games, then turning the Ipad over and frying some eggs and bacon on it for breakfast!! Android has lost son??!!!
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I don't want to start Apple bashing, but the list of problems with the 'New' iPad put the TP problems into perspective.
There are reports that the battery won't charge:
http://gizmodo.com/5894988/people-are-having-trouble-charging-their-new-ipads?tag=apple
& there are WiFi problems:
http://gizmodo.com/5895145/does-the-new-ipad-have-wi+fi-reception-problems
It seems that many devices can have (widespread?) issues. Unfortunately, some people on these forums seem to be exaggerating the Primes problems and it becomes very difficult to properly evaluate the situation. The problems with the Prime have been magnified to a hysterical level, I wonder if the same will happen with the iPad...?
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it will. Asus and prime was ever as popular as apple. so our issues were only major to us. it isn't like our issues get national t.v. press coverage. anything apple does is under a microscope. so when the mess up, they do it big. plus apple complainers are some of the loudest voices heard. this will soon enough generate t.v. coverage. I didn't even hear about the battery not charging up issue. SMH. so the reality behind new Ipad launch is really starting to show. apple will have it worse because they sell in such large numbers. meaning huge amounts of people likely to have this issue. I smell another lawsuit coming apples way. they deserve it since they always want to patent troll on smaller companies.
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I don't want to start Apple bashing, but the list of problems with the 'New' iPad put the TP problems into perspective.
There are reports that the battery won't charge:
http://gizmodo.com/5894988/people-are-having-trouble-charging-their-new-ipads?tag=apple
& there are WiFi problems:
http://gizmodo.com/5895145/does-the-new-ipad-have-wi+fi-reception-problems
It seems that many devices can have (widespread?) issues. Unfortunately, some people on these forums seem to be exaggerating the Primes problems and it becomes very difficult to properly evaluate the situation. The problems with the Prime have been magnified to a hysterical level, I wonder if the same will happen with the iPad...?
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I heard a spokesman for Asus say that there was less than 1% of Primes that had reported problems. That's not to say that only 1% actually HAVE problems (my GPS doesn't work well enough for navigation, but I don't care because I never intended to use it for that) but less than 1% of Prime customers are dissatisfied with their devices. That seems about right to me, given that almost all of the complaints that I see in these forums seem to be from 1-2 people who got bad Primes.
To put that into perspective, I read a quote from an Apple spokesperson who said that "87% of (new) iPad customers are reporting no problems." That means that 13% are reporting problems. That is ridiculous.
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Here is the link for the "87% perfect" bit: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1343130
And the "Less than 1% reported problems" article with Gary Key: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ansformer-prime-in-perspective/#ixzz1n99nZyEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y7tPczbOec&feature=youtu.be
Thoughts?
Don't be a fatty and sit on your phone i guess?
We all carry around an industrial press in our pants....don't we?? That was a couple minutes of my life I'll never get back.
Really.. ?
The fact it took less pressure to break completely than the iPhone 6 is a bit worrying....
Sorry, but I'm gonna take what a machine did to this phone with a grain of salt. I did see on another video where a guy tried to bend the S6 Edge with his hands, and just could not do it at all. I wouldn't worry about this phone bending in your pocket. I promise you, that if this machine took every phone you've owned, and put it to the test, most would bend just the same? Now I've never bent a phone in my whole life, have you?
wow...a phone bends in an industrial press...impressive. LOL All phones will break under a press like that. If it is made of metal it will bend and not go back as well. Bendgate was about the phone bending in peoples pocket from general use and overall pressure on the phone. My son actually had an iPhone 6 (not the plus) and it bent in his pocket. He was lucky that AT&T let him exchange it. This video just wasted a good phone for no reason.
The issue with the comparison with the IP6 "Bendgate" is wrong
What this demonstration misses, and what it makes people draw erroneous conclusions to, is that the iPhone 6 was easily bent by hand or in your pocket due to a particular weak spot around the volume buttons. This didn't require a machine to bend, it was performed by kids on Youtube. Drawing conclusions between how much pressure this machine took attempting to bend the phones from a point that was *not* the iPhone 6's original weak spot (in addition to Apply having quietly reinforced said weak spot since), causes people to believe that the S6 must, by way of not withstanding this machine's test, be as or more bendable than the iPhone 6 as it pertains to "bendgate", which is flat out wrong.
I think we can all agree, that we don't care how much pressure it takes to bend/break a phone, just so long as it is an unreasonable amount of pressure - phones being bent by kids and pant pockets are obviously below an acceptable threshold.
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The fact it took less pressure to break completely than the iPhone 6 is a bit worrying....
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Not really, both are at pressures that aren't really going to happen in your pocket. It's another benchmark test that is useless. Sit back and think about how many times your phone is going to experience a bending force like this. The only thing I can really think of, is if it is in your back pocket... but even then, why would you sit on your phone? It's uncomfortable, and you just spent a bunch of money on an electronic device you are going to sit on? You wouldn't sit on any of your other electronics.
The fact of the matter is, yes, maybe one phone can handle less stress than the other, but at 149 lbs vs 179 lbs, both are well above a normal bending force the phones will experience. It would be a worry if one of the phones failed at 20 lbs of force... But I doubt we will here about many stories of phones bending.
Also, what was stated earlier, it wasn't that the iphone wasn't strong enough, it was that it had a weak spot due to the design. So even though the galaxy s6 had a lower threshold, it most likely doesn't have a weak spot that significantly reduces the threshold to normal, everyday forces experienced by your phone.
At the launch event, Samsung went out of their way to point out that the s6 / s6e wouldn't bend easily..even cracking jokes about it. I'm also pretty sure they said their metal frame was 50% stronger than any competitor's, so something about this video doesn't sit right with me. Not that this worries me in any way, the whole thing is ridiculous.
I wouldn't worry about this, yet... When I hear of people bending phones in their pockets or easily walking into stores and bending display devices with their bare hands, then it will become an issue.
I've had the 6 plus since day 1 never had it bend. Not even warped a little. As long as your not a dumbass with your phone you should be good.
Honestly tho. Wait until unboxtherapy can do a bend test or someone like his test. Because a machine can obviously bend any phone. Proves next to nothing in real world usage terms.
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I've had the 6 plus since day 1 never had it bend. Not even warped a little. As long as your not a dumbass with your phone you should be good.
Honestly tho. Wait until unboxtherapy can do a bend test or someone like his test. Because a machine can obviously bend any phone. Proves next to nothing in real world usage terms.
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first of all., that video is of the s6 edge and the s6 edge has a thinner and smaller frame than the s6 so it is much easier to bend. second of all. the glass is curved and we all know what happens when you put force on a curved glass. it smashes easily compared to flat glass. Unless they do the s6, i would not trust that video. never the less, i am still getting the s6 edge because i like the design.
isn't it pathetic that Samsung always bashes apple like they did with iphone bendgate, then they slap their own face?
just like they mocked Apple for years about not having removable battery and SD card, and guess what? they slap their face again.
here's them being Hypocrites: https://twitter.com/SamsungMobile/status/515074944485449728/photo/1
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isn't it pathetic that Samsung always bashes apple like they did with iphone bendgate, then they slap their own face?
just like they mocked Apple for years about not having removable battery and SD card, and guess what? they slap their face again.
here's them being Hypocrites: https://twitter.com/SamsungMobile/status/515074944485449728/photo/1
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This is a moot point. No Samsung flagship to date has bent in a consumer's pocket or hands. Every device will bend/break at some point in a hydraulic press. I don't care for the negative advertising, but their point was accurate and still is with the S6 Edge.
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This is a moot point. No Samsung flagship to date has bent in a consumer's pocket or hands. Every device will bend/break at some point in a hydraulic press. I don't care for the negative advertising, but their point was accurate and still is with the S6 Edge.
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so would you have preferred if they used their hands instead? because i'm there will be a flood of them coming soon..
personally, i don't care if the phone bends, only an idiot would put their phone in their back pocket.
i'm only saying that Samsung is notorious for mocking Apple and with the Edge it looks like it will bend under the same pressure iphone did. point is, Samsung should learn keep their mouth shut and stop bashing apple, because they are starting to look just like them.
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so would you have preferred if they used their hands instead? because i'm there will be a flood of them coming soon..
personally, i don't care if the phone bends, only an idiot would put their phone in their back pocket.
i'm only saying that Samsung is notorious for mocking Apple and with the Edge it looks like it will bend under the same pressure iphone did. point is, Samsung should learn keep their mouth shut and stop bashing apple, because they are starting to look just like them.
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How's that comparable to iPhone 6+ story? The guy bent 3 ip6+ with his hands, unless someone does the same thing to the edge I call apple propaganda. You can tell by looking at which sites posted the video first
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How's that comparable to iPhone 6+ story? The guy bent 3 ip6+ with his hands, unless someone does the same thing to the edge I call apple propaganda. You can tell by looking at which sites posted the video first
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bgr is the worst. they act like an unbiased site until you see the articles they name and write. it is just pure bashing. they block my messages and disregard articles i sent to them because it does not "appeal" to apple.
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with the Edge it looks like it will bend under the same pressure iphone did.
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Only on the machine with fixed pressure points at both ends and the center of the device using bars to evenly distribute the load. But with the correct pressure points, the iPhone will bend under much less pressure. It has not yet been demonstrated that a Samsung flagship chassis will behave in the same way.
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bgr is the worst. they act like an unbiased site until you see the articles they name and write. it is just pure bashing. they block my messages and disregard articles i sent to them because it does not "appeal" to apple.
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I look through the titles of their articles... It is obvious that they hate Samsung.
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Tl;Dr version:
Bought 6P for wife. Fitted a google folio case. Phone fell off table (like 3 feet) onto a lino floor. Screen and case unmarked, but chassis warped (can see silver stress webs near power button) and is stuck in boot loop.
Can't say I would recommend this phone. Build quality is miserable. Bitterly disappointed in it.
glad screen saved
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glad screen saved
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A screen isn't much good when the warped chassis is holding down the power button.
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This ain't good at all. Sad story, I imagine we will hear more of those. Hopefully Google will accept rma because this will happen to more, and careful, people.
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They initially refused - but agreed to escalate it when I mentioned SoGA. Gawd bless our consumer-friendly laws.
IF that fails I'll claim on our insurance, but honestly I want googz to take the hit here. Shipping a flagship which warps when dropped is not acceptable.
Simply lower grade, cheaper Aluminums been used.
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I don't know..? Clearly the phone took a fall, and looks like it hit the edge of something in a very unlucky spot. I don't see this as a weak chassis, nor do I see it as Google's fault. I don't understand how Google made you drop your phone? I also don't understand why you think Google should take the hit? That's pure nonsense if you ask me. That's like me hitting a mailbox with my new car, and putting a dent in my fender. Am I supposed to rush to the dealer, and say hey... fix my fender because you guys made it too weak! Oh, and you guys need to take the hit! C'mon man, they would just laugh in my face!
I'm sorry that your phone got messed up, I really am. I do think its 100% your fault though. I also think that we can very well see that same kind of damage on just about every phone in today's market given the same circumstance. If Google takes the hit, lucky for you, but if they don't, they'll be doing the right thing IMHO.
Good luck.
Should of had a case. I would agree with WilliamStern. Aluminum is not a strong metal and especially since its on a phone, its going to be thin.
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http://imgur.com/a/Py5Hq
Tl;Dr version:
Bought 6P for wife. Fitted a google folio case. Phone fell off table (like 3 feet) onto a lino floor. Screen and case unmarked, but chassis warped (can see silver stress webs near power button) and is stuck in boot loop.
Can't say I would recommend this phone. Build quality is miserable. Bitterly disappointed in it.
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where is the problem here? every device gets a ding or a scuff when dropped from 3 feet.
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where is the problem here? every device gets a ding or a scuff when dropped from 3 feet.
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There's a warp at the power button there if you look closely.
OP is really unlucky but i think that this is really unacceptable as well, i'm not a fan of iphone but have to say i don't think it will happen to my gf's iphone 6s.
Currently waiting for my 6P to ship over so i really hope i don't get a weak phone that will bend/break just from normal usage and unfortunate drops.
To summarise:
1) not a ding. Was dropped on flat surface. No corners or edges present.
2) was in a case. Google supplied folio case.
3) chassis has warped at the point where the power button sits. Stress fractures visible as silver lines in aluminium. Not a cosmetic issue; power button is forced in.
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I don't know..? Clearly the phone took a fall, and looks like it hit the edge of something in a very unlucky spot. I don't see this as a weak chassis, nor do I see it as Google's fault. I don't understand how Google made you drop your phone? I also don't understand why you think Google should take the hit? That's pure nonsense if you ask me. That's like me hitting a mailbox with my new car, and putting a dent in my fender. Am I supposed to rush to the dealer, and say hey... fix my fender because you guys made it too weak! Oh, and you guys need to take the hit! C'mon man, they would just laugh in my face!
I'm sorry that your phone got messed up, I really am. I do think its 100% your fault though. I also think that we can very well see that same kind of damage on just about every phone in today's market given the same circumstance. If Google takes the hit, lucky for you, but if they don't, they'll be doing the right thing IMHO.
Good luck.
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It hit a flat, soft floor from 3 feet up while in a google case, and it warped to the point that the power button is stuck in.
If that sounds like a satisfactory product to you, fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I think the more important thing here is that he dropped his phone and now it is stuck in a bootloop. Did you try Odin or any other service?
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Rainstalk said:
I think the more important thing here is that he dropped his phone and now it is stuck in a bootloop. Did you try Odin or any other service?
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The important thing is: a) it's a nexus not a Samsung b) it's a hardware fault
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I just watched this drop test video https://m.youtube.com/watch and it kinda looks like you might have got a lemon. I too dropped mine from approx 3ft on to a similar surface, mine was in an adopted case and the phone was just fine. Those kind of hard shell cases don't offer much shock protection.
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It hit a flat, soft floor from 3 feet up while in a google case, and it warped to the point that the power button is stuck in.
If that sounds like a satisfactory product to you, fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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I guess I'm surprised that you're getting grief from people about being disappointed in the inability of the N6P to take a shot. Of course we should do our best to avoid drops, dings, smashes, etc. But they are a fact of life and a good design is capable of taking "some" abuse. LG even has a commercial running right now showing one of their naked phones being dropped off a table with no damage. I am so careful with my phones that I am ALWAYS able to sell my old devices on eBay and get top dollar because they are in mint condition. In fact, I just got $100 for my old Nexus 4. But that doesn't mean I haven't had accidents. My Nexus 5 took a fall onto a tile floor, hit on the side and skidded across the floor - not a mark on it and 100% functional (yes, it was in a standard case and not some bubble wrap behemoth). I also would expect a new "flagship" to do the same.
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There's a warp at the power button there if you look closely.
OP is really unlucky but i think that this is really unacceptable as well, i'm not a fan of iphone but have to say i don't think it will happen to my gf's iphone 6s.
Currently waiting for my 6P to ship over so i really hope i don't get a weak phone that will bend/break just from normal usage and unfortunate drops.
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Yeah I saw it and it looks like that's the point of impact with the floor or no?
That's why plastic is fantastic! Plastic can take a lot of abuse. I'm still struggling in making a decision which one to get 5X or 6P, battery life is important to me and i'd like an AMOLED over LCD but can compromise. But so far, if you have a look at 5X forum - they have no quality issues, in comparison with this forum where every second thread is something wrong with the build quality. Battery life also seems to be quite similar, especially after disabling encryption on 5X, although 6P would always have 30min - 1hour more SOT than 5X... Do i wait till xmas and see of 6P issues will be resolved or get a 5X as i've been rocking Nexus 5 with a smashed screen for the last 6 months waiting for new Nexuses to come out...
I am almost grateful for the delay on my graphite if this has been part of the production issue....
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I am almost grateful for the delay on my graphite if this has been part of the production issue....
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I highly doubt it's a production issue. More likely it's because cheaper aluminium is being used and that part is the thinnest part of the side on the phone. Huawei /Google aren't going to suddenly use a higher spec Alu, we'll just have to live with it.
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I am guessing Google knew, hence the Nexus Protect option that suddenly materialized for this Nexus launch. I have been told that there are "production issues" (not sure if this is actually why..) when calling and inquiring about my missed ship/delivery dates for my PREORDER.
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What I think? I think I am gonna buy instead of pneumatic phone drop device, some decent case for my Note 8. AKA, couldn´t care less about all these tests.
These are NOT tests they are idiots acting like..............idiots.
Tip. If you drop a metal and double sided glass device chances are it will break....Shock, horror.
Ryland
Got a TPU case to cover corner drops and let me be comfortable turning the phone face down.
No worries about this stuff. Does anyone use this phone naked?
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Does anyone else have the link open them to YouTube in the browser instead of the app? I want to fix that so it opens in the app. Any idea how?
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WOW! The Note8 did very well
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Hey Its Crap: cool
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Hey Its Crap: cool
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So sorry to learn your life is "Crap". Can we do anything to assist you? WE could always perform one of these drop tests on you if you like? How about we drop you from the fourth floor of a building and 'test' how you land? That would stop you from feeling like "Crap" and give you a whole new perspective on 'life'......What do you think?
Keep well. :fingers-crossed:
Ryland :good:
Ryland Johnson said:
So sorry to learn your life is "Crap". Can we do anything to assist you? WE could always perform one of these drop tests on you if you like? How about we drop you from the fourth floor of a building and 'test' how you land? That would stop you from feeling like "Crap" and give you a whole new perspective on 'life'......What do you think?
Keep well. :fingers-crossed:
Ryland :good:
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Kind of a jerk thing to say regardless if you're playing or not.
Maybe somebody's claim of having strongest glass ever put on the phone is shuttered into little pieces. And like the fact N8 could survive multiple drops and still work.
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Kind of a jerk thing to say regardless if you're playing or not.
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So called 'drop tests' are a blight on technology and totally ignorant, absurd and stupid.
WHY do people 'drop test' a device that does not claim to be drop proof?
WHY are the 'testers' always shocked when the device breaks?
What approved method of quality control, ie testing standards, are being used.....Of course the answer is non.
Its not an industry secret that if you drop your Hi Fi amp', DVD player, speakers, lap top, DAP or many many other technological devices they WILL break. I akin this stupidity to purchasing a car and driving it into a wall to test the airbags! WHO does that?
Then we have the freezing of our Note 8 etc etc in coca cola, hot soup, fried and boiled and so, such absurdity goes on. These devices are expensive and to deliberately destroy such things for ZERO reason is just bloody absurd.
I don't find such things a joke I find them rather sick and those who perform such actions need help. Its vandalism pure and simple. When I consider how many people are waiting to receive their Note 8 on back order then see some jerk smashing one to pieces I feel anger. Its becoming an accepted 'Norm' and its a worrying trend.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
So called 'drop tests' are a blight on technology and totally ignorant, absurd and stupid.
WHY do people 'drop test' a device that does not claim to be drop proof?
WHY are the 'testers' always shocked when the device breaks?
What approved method of quality control, ie testing standards, are being used.....Of course the answer is non.
Its not an industry secret that if you drop your Hi Fi amp', DVD player, speakers, lap top, DAP or many many other technological devices they WILL break. I akin this stupidity to purchasing a car and driving it into a wall to test the airbags! WHO does that?
Then we have the freezing of our Note 8 etc etc in coca cola, hot soup, fried and boiled and so, such absurdity goes on. These devices are expensive and to deliberately destroy such things for ZERO reason is just bloody absurd.
I don't find such things a joke I find them rather sick and those who perform such actions need help. Its vandalism pure and simple. When I consider how many people are waiting to receive their Note 8 on back order then see some jerk smashing one to pieces I feel anger. Its becoming an accepted 'Norm' and its a worrying trend.
Ryland
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Read what you said to the guy again to see why I said it was a jerk move. He was talking about a phone, so you offered to "drop him off a building to fix his crappy life".
Regarding the subject though, people accidentally drop phones all of the time. Some would like to know if the phone will be dead if it happens. Regardless of what you think, phones of 2 years ago even survived most drops. The new ones of today are getting more and more fragile due to the materials and curved aspects of the glass.
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Read what you said to the guy again to see why I said it was a jerk move. He was talking about a phone, so you offered to "drop him off a building to fix his crappy life".
Regarding the subject though, people accidentally drop phones all of the time. Some would like to know if they will be dead if it happens. Regardless of what you think, phones of 2 years ago even survived most drops. The new ones of today are getting more and more fragile due to the materials and curved aspects of the glass.
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I 'thought' the irony of my post was obvious? One drops a mobile from a fourth floor it WILL break. One is dropped of same floor and one will break. If this point of 'testing' needs spelling out what's the point?
I accidentally dropped a 15k watch 25 years ago. It broke, I was not surprised. Point is I didn't drop test it when I bought it 5 years earlier to see if it would break! :silly:
Regardless of what you say if you drop a mobile off a roof or by drone or helicopter, boil it etc blah blah it will break.
You agree mobiles are "fragile" if you understand that why advocate and support these absurd so called 'tests'?
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
So sorry to learn your life is "Crap". Can we do anything to assist you? WE could always perform one of these drop tests on you if you like? How about we drop you from the fourth floor of a building and 'test' how you land? That would stop you from feeling like "Crap" and give you a whole new perspective on 'life'......What do you think?
Keep well. :fingers-crossed:
Ryland :good:
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Jerk statement, nonetheless funny as hell tho :good:?
princeasi said:
Jerk statement, nonetheless funny as hell tho :good:
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Bad man lol. You where supposed to see the irony in my post! It wasn't supposed to be humorous.
Oh dear.....
Ryland :highfive:
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Ryland Johnson said:
So called 'drop tests' are a blight on technology and totally ignorant, absurd and stupid.
WHY do people 'drop test' a device that does not claim to be drop proof?
WHY are the 'testers' always shocked when the device breaks?
What approved method of quality control, ie testing standards, are being used.....Of course the answer is non.
Its not an industry secret that if you drop your Hi Fi amp', DVD player, speakers, lap top, DAP or many many other technological devices they WILL break. I akin this stupidity to purchasing a car and driving it into a wall to test the airbags! WHO does that?
Then we have the freezing of our Note 8 etc etc in coca cola, hot soup, fried and boiled and so, such absurdity goes on. These devices are expensive and to deliberately destroy such things for ZERO reason is just bloody absurd.
I don't find such things a joke I find them rather sick and those who perform such actions need help. Its vandalism pure and simple. When I consider how many people are waiting to receive their Note 8 on back order then see some jerk smashing one to pieces I feel anger. Its becoming an accepted 'Norm' and its a worrying trend.
Ryland
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Well, while I agree that freezing a phone and dropping it sorta stupid, drop tests aren't. No phones beyond Galaxy Active are advertised as drop-proof (that I know of) yet we all drop them, it's a reality of life, and while certain phones aren't specifically designed to be drop-proof, some designs are intrinsically better at distributing the energy of the drop to the frame, which the drop tests show. Like Nexus 6p is going to be significantly sturdier than Galaxy s8 because of the design, not because someone tried to make Nexus 6p a drop proof phone.
OMG... broken too easly
Any screen protector can fit good and protect the screen for Note 8?
Sneak attack technique of ad-ing mid-vid. :highfive:
I enjoyed watching the two drop because of how Steve Jobs had everything ON THE INSIDE symmetrical. The other-than-Note-8 phone landed so flat. Haaaaaaa.