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I see the GS2 has been to 1.8 GHz and it has the same processor as ours. So is it being attempted?
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I see the GS2 has been to 1.8 GHz and it has the same processor as ours. So is it being attempted?
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Read around, Faux has it up to 1.7
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Yes, there is a kernel by faux123 that goes up to 1.7GHz
Development forum.
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1.7 is all we can get right now? I was at 1.9 with my htc g2
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1.7 is all we can get right now? I was at 1.9 with my htc g2
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Likewise, but that was a single core chip and for whatever reason it seemed to handle the increase in frequency wih a little more stability.
I can't really imagine what you would need a high frequency like that for on our device though, I watch mkv's with ease on this thing.
Besides it was like 8 months after the g2 the was released that kernels had that capability.
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1.7 is all we can get right now? I was at 1.9 with my htc g2
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honestly gingerbread is only optimized for one core. and At 1.5 I don't see any lag or any stutters whatsoever, Thats why I just clock my phone at 1.5 or even 1.4 sometimes...I don't understand why phones need a dual core?? its just a massive battery drainage and sell point. my old single core laptop runs windows 7 very smoothly...you're telling me we need a dual core processor on our phones to run android!!!
Waste of battery imo, if you're into gaming just get a psp, you'll get a wider selection of games, and also a much much better battery life that won't chip into your talktime
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honestly gingerbread is only optimized for one core. and At 1.5 I don't see any lag or any stutters whatsoever, Thats why I just clock my phone at 1.5 or even 1.4 sometimes...I don't understand why phones need a dual core?? its just a massive battery drainage and sell point. my old single core laptop runs windows 7 very smoothly...you're telling me we need a dual core processor on our phones to run android!!!
Waste of battery imo, if you're into gaming just get a psp, you'll get a wider selection of games, and also a much much better battery life that won't chip into your talktime
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Gingerbread may be optimized for one core but what about ICS? That's why we have it.. would you have bought the Amaze if it was single core?
And as far as over-clocking, if I'm understanding things correctly. The kernel is OC'd but isn't it only one kernel taking load a majority of the time? So it seems to me that its really like over-clocking a single core.
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Fahnix said:
Gingerbread may be optimized for one core but what about ICS? That's why we have it.. would you have bought the Amaze if it was single core?
And as far as over-clocking, if I'm understanding things correctly. The kernel is OC'd but isn't it only one kernel taking load a majority of the time? So it seems to me that its really like over-clocking a single core.
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ya overclocking a single core basically the second core is off whenever i check it. yes I understand ICS supports multicore and so does honeycomb. But do we really need multiple cores? my point was that It really is not needed, unless you're trying to play a really high def game!!!! playing high def games gives you about 2 or 3 hours max battery life, so you might as well just get a psp!!! you see my point? I overclocked my old N1 cause it was laggy, or getting laggy, and overclocking does not always mean better performance. it strains the processor and sometimes causes even more stutter!
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honestly gingerbread is only optimized for one core. and At 1.5 I don't see any lag or any stutters whatsoever, Thats why I just clock my phone at 1.5 or even 1.4 sometimes...I don't understand why phones need a dual core?? its just a massive battery drainage and sell point. my old single core laptop runs windows 7 very smoothly...you're telling me we need a dual core processor on our phones to run android!!!
Waste of battery imo, if you're into gaming just get a psp, you'll get a wider selection of games, and also a much much better battery life that won't chip into your talktime
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I thought the same until i read more about the way android uses the cores. it doesnt always use both cores at the same time like Windows would.. It uses the other core when it needs to, Google just needs more optimizing and such. but i guess thats what ICS is for
I would agree but coming from a single core phone to my amaze. What a huge difference. So I say what ever there doing keep it up.
I love a dual core. Im surfing the web on a quad core amd, and my phone is just as quick as my computer .
Here is my next question. I dont know much on how to over clock a phone . I cant imagine its anything like overclocking my PC .
Where can I read more to find out on how to because I would love to.
if used correctly dual core can give much better battery life once it is supported fully by ICS. the trick is to have both processors work simultaneously on one task for battery purposes. for multitasking it is probably not a good idea, it will probably require good kernel and governor to figure it out here:
Hey guys, bit of a noob question here but nevertheless i shall ask it anyway
So as we know the samsung galaxy s3 has a quad core processor which churns out 1.4ghz which is rather fast!
But ive only seen the overclocking abilities for it to run at 1.7ghz max? Why is this? the galaxy note can run at 1.9ghz via dual core.
my question is this, why cant is run at over 2ghz? i mean 1.4 is enough but id like to say "my phone can run the same speed as my laptop"
Sorry for the noob-ish question but if anyone would reply, it would be great
Jack.
I've yet see a phone that can open the http://www.theverge.com/ at a decent speed.
I overcloceked to 1.6Mhz and still didn't make any difference.
Why would you want to run at 2.0Mhz?
Running at that speed would juts increase battery usage and overheat the CPU.
Ah right, yeah it even took my computer like 10seconds to load that site!
why wouldnt you want a phone to run at over 2ghz? admittedly your right about the overheat and battery life
For that exact reason...heat and battery life. What more reason would you need. For most instances its unnecessary. Isn't saying its quad core enough...
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It will be faster wait for jellybean its optimized for more cores
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The same applies to pc chips, more cores mean more heat. It's why many current dual and quad core chips are faster than the newer hex and 8 core chips. Less cores means more room for heat tolerances.
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The same applies to pc chips, more cores mean more heat. It's why many current dual and quad core chips are faster than the newer hex and 8 core chips. Less cores means more room for heat tolerances.
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The reason dual and quad cores are faster is because of the limitation of software and how multithreaded it can be (and there will be a point of diminishing returns which will be a lot sooner for basic programs).
I have a dual core 3ghz pc and my new pc is just 2.8ghz quad i7.... My old pc must be much faster!
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jhericurls said:
I've yet see a phone that can open the http://www.theverge.com/ at a decent speed.
I overcloceked to 1.6Mhz and still didn't make any difference.
Why would you want to run at 2.0Mhz?
Running at that speed would juts increase battery usage and overheat the CPU.
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It seems the SGS3 can open and scroll through http://www.theverge.com/ very fast, I've just tested it.
Is it not fast enough on yours?
JackHanAnLG said:
Hey guys, bit of a noob question here but nevertheless i shall ask it anyway
So as we know the samsung galaxy s3 has a quad core processor which churns out 1.4ghz which is rather fast!
But ive only seen the overclocking abilities for it to run at 1.7ghz max? Why is this? the galaxy note can run at 1.9ghz via dual core.
my question is this, why cant is run at over 2ghz? i mean 1.4 is enough but id like to say "my phone can run the same speed as my laptop"
Sorry for the noob-ish question but if anyone would reply, it would be great
Jack.
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norpan111 said:
I have a dual core 3ghz pc and my new pc is just 2.8ghz quad i7.... My old pc must be much faster!
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I lol'd. 1.7ghz quad is leaps and bounds better than 1.9ghz dual. 1.7 and 1.9 ghz isn't that big of a leap, but 2 cores versus 4 cores is pretty significant. Jelly Bean improves multi-core processors so the SGS3 International version is going to be even more sick-nasty (in a good way) once that rolls out.
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I lol'd. 1.7ghz quad is leaps and bounds better than 1.9ghz dual. 1.7 and 1.9 ghz isn't that big of a leap, but 2 cores versus 4 cores is pretty significant. Jelly Bean improves multi-core processors so the SGS3 International version is going to be even more sick-nasty (in a good way) once that rolls out.
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Exactly
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NIK516 said:
It will be faster wait for jellybean its optimized for more cores
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No it isn't. Not anymore than ICS.
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I dont know why u compairing a desktop pc to galaxy s3. A pc will win hands down but I have a fairly upto date pc. And since got this phone i never really use it unless doing video editing. This phone is great and is as good as a standarded laptop If not better. This speed is brilliant to, maybe jelly bean will make a great phone greater. And another thing apps for this phone weather it be media or web browsing etc isn't really pushing this phone to the limit. So give it a while might see a bigger improvement.
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There is more to CPU performance than the clock frequency, core efficiency is the key here.
E.g. Intel P4 processor -v- Intel 'Conroe' Processors.
The newer Conroe processors were smashing the granny out of the older P4 processor despite the significant lower clock speed. Does that mean the newer processors are inferior? No, it just means each clock cycle handles more instructions.
If you want willy waving rights about how awesome your phone is go buy an iPhone and check if theres an app for that.
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NIK516 said:
It will be faster wait for jellybean its optimized for more cores
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No it isn't. Not anymore than ICS.
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Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
In "Project Butter," Google has worked to improve graphical performance and touch responsiveness. On the graphics side, Android is now v-synced at 60 frames a second, with triple-buffered graphics. The result is that scrolling, paging, and animations are all smoother and consistent.
To make touch feel better, Google is making it anticipatory, so that the touch data applications receive corresponds to where fingers will be the next time the screen is redrawn. This means that apps won't have to be one step behind where the user's fingers actually are. Jelly Bean will also immediately ramp CPUs to their full speed whenever touch interaction is detected. This avoids lag caused by slower processing when the CPUs are in low power modes.
For developers, the Jelly Bean SDK will include a new profiling tool, systrace, that provides a clear visualization of their applications' use of the CPU, GPU, and other system components, so that bottlenecks can be more readily identified and resolved.
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Nothing specifically says "Jelly Bean is optimized for multi-core processors". That said, that entire article shows that Jelly Bean was brought about with processors in mind. You really think Google is going to make an OS that will "ramp CPUs to their full speed whenever touch interaction is detected," and "include a new profiling tool" that shows applications "use of the CPU" but not make sure it's going to be optimized for dual and quad-core devices? Also, keep this in mind:
Jelly Bean Lite
Jelly Bean Lite: Android OS definitely works efficiently on high-end dual-core phones. However, when it comes to lower end devices, the performance, reportedly, becomes very poor. Many users have also urged Google to release a lighter version of Android OS for midrange and lower end smartphones to rid themselves of the problem of performance of OS.
Rumors are already rife that Google will release a lighter version (Jelly Bean Lite) for smartphones with limited CPU and storage.
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I'd say you're probably wrong about Jelly Bean not being optimized for multi-core devices.
What really matters to the average person is that in real life use the S3 really isn't that much faster than S2, so until we get an OS optimised for those extra cores all we really gonna have is the "My processor's bigger than your processor" bragging rights.
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What really matters to the average person is that in real life use the S3 really isn't that much faster than S2, so until we get an OS optimised for those extra cores all we really gonna have is the "My processor's bigger than your processor" bragging rights.
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Benchmark scores do show that it's a decent difference in the S2 versus the S3, though overall I would have to agree with you. But Jelly Bean will definitely be closer to the mark than Ice Cream Sandwich in terms of CPU optimization. That's my personal opinion based on my above comment of course.
JackHanAnLG said:
why wouldnt you want a phone to run at over 2ghz? admittedly your right about the overheat and battery life
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Because I paid a lot for this phone and don't want it to break.
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I wonder why we take the matter with Overcloacken so important. as far as I know there are no games or apps which support the 4 cores. we should wait. I'm curious
I've seen minimal amount of root guides, and some of them I don't really trust because I can't check whether they're valid or not. Main reason though is once rpoted, how can I overclock the processor to above the standard 1.7ghz? I've seen apps for it but once again, fake? Real? I don't know. Any help would be hugely appreciated
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Can't speak for overclocking as I haven't done it but I rooted my x+ using hasoon's toolkit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
Worked great for me with no probs. There's a guide in one of the sections too.
Hope this helps.
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Hasoons toolkit is fantastic for rooting beginners. I also used it and it made everything for me?
Why would you overclock a 1.7 ghz quadcore smartphone. While gaming it already gets so hot that i could make a nice breakfast on it
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Why on earth would you want to overclock a 1.7ghz quad core phone? More to the point. Unless you live in the North Pole, your gunna fry your phone, or atleast accelerate the degradation of the SOC through excessive heat.
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First of all: there are several threads called guides and stickies with anything you would need to know. Secondly I really don't understand how you can put distrust into official guides and then try to get some random users who might or might not have any reputation to tell you what to do and how to do it. No offence, just out of curiosity
And lastly: at the moment there is no official way nor any sort of reason to overclock an 1.7 GHz quad core on a mobile device. Are you having it connected to a wall charger all the time while attached to an active cooling solution? If not there is absolutely no point to it.
But what you can do is have the full GPU clock of 620mhz set as max when running elite or blade kernel. With second one you can also make use of undervolting and enable full speed on all cores (1.7 ghz is only available in single core mode for stock kernel) Just read a bit and you will see there are still lots of ways to tweak your system. But one last question:
why do you want to oc? Not enough performance or want better benchmark scores?
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I've seen minimal amount of root guides, and some of them I don't really trust because I can't check whether they're valid or not. Main reason though is once rpoted, how can I overclock the processor to above the standard 1.7ghz? I've seen apps for it but once again, fake? Real? I don't know. Any help would be hugely appreciated
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If your talking about the AT&T U.S. Model there currently is no overclock capabilities, we are working diligently to resolve this issue. there is the beastmode custom kernel source but you will need to build your own kernel from it it does give some performance enhancements and s2w but no overclocking.
as far as the one member asking why you would want to OC a 1.7ghz i might point out that that question was asked frequently over the years almost from the beginning of custom roms. the answer is simple, "Because we can"
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Why on earth would you want to overclock a 1.7ghz quad core phone? More to the point. Unless you live in the North Pole, your gunna fry your phone, or atleast accelerate the degradation of the SOC through excessive heat.
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I might point out that every chip mfg. underrates their processor capabilities, (some more than others). also if you check the stats you'll see that there is a user cap of 1.3ghz (at least on the ATT Model) so to an extent overclocking would allow us to run the processor at the stated 1.7ghz rather than have it hobbled at 1.3 currently the only time your processor will ever exceed the 1.3 is under extremely heavy load and then only for a very short period of time. enabling OC will give the user the ability to at 1.7 or even marginally above that for more extended periods of time.
OC'ing a processor does not necesarily mean running at top speed continuously rather giving a range from minimum (which is 51mhz) to a maximum which could be 1.7 or above, the system will still decide the best frequency to run at based on several factors including but not limited to voltage, governors, mpdecision etc.
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If i underclock my phone would iti fluence the battery in a positive way
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Yes it would. And right there really is a point to enabling 4*1,7ghz, but that really is something that would be used with caution. You drain your battery pretty fast and you will likely heat up your phone to the point it throttles down. Yes it is nice to have it peak at all cores 1.7 GHz every now and then rather then 1.7ghz single core mode but that shouldn't be regarded as overclocking. The international version already can have single cores running at 1.7 and surely it should be possible at least on some devices to go even higher but that again would cause even more heat and drain battery like hell.
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There are many Android Phones with Hexa or Octa Cores for example The Samsung Galaxy A5 or the Honor 8 .....
well the system is not clever and refuses to use multiple cores when you are at the homescreen or reading a text (right?) so it will only use the single core which is a bit slow when you see some benchmark tests.
Is it possible to make the phone use all or more than one core?
(with root of course...)
on the pc it is possible so it shouldn't be that hard on Android.
Change your cpu governor to performance
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Basically kernel audit our is a good app for this also l speed is another good app to look into
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hey guys I owned multiple phones in my life and to be honest the best one I had is the HTC One XL
single cored device of 1.5GHZ i over clocked it to 1.8GHZ and i still have it, it is a lot faster than all new phones, faster than sony phones heck its even faster than my Xperia Z5 Compact 8 cored!!
4 cores of 2ghz and another 4 of 1.5 and can not even compete to the speed of the One XL when it comes to launching apps speed and smooth UI experience!
so I am asking you if its any related to the roms we have and the drivers of sony could be causing the problems? I tried AOKP AOSP AICP Lineage roms they are fast enough but still why isnt it as fast as the 4-5 years old HTC SINGLED CORED!
if its roms related or UI can any one suggest really small roms or UI that can give my device a more powerful experience?
thanks for any one that can help
Funny. Any proof, maybe benchmarks screenshots or comparsion video? My Antutu score is 86 660 on stock 7.0 firmware for example.
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Funny. Any proof, maybe benchmarks screenshots or comparsion video? My Antutu score is 86 660 on stock 7.0 firmware for example.
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thats exactly the funny thing! I have a really high score on multitasking - GPU, basically every thing else besides "Single core" score
and its really funny how the phone specs it says : it comes with 4 large cores of 2.0GHZ when in actuallity they run at 1.5ghz and when you actually run it on 2.0 youre actually "over-clocking" when in actuallity its just what they are supposed to do! how is that?
plus I got 59000 on AOKP how is that possible??