It looks like the Droid DNA has some tethering/hotspot connectivity issues when connected to some Apple devices such as the iPad. The 4g connection would just drop on a random basis when tethering using the official options in settings. Hotspot issues have somewhat been confirmed in the Slashgear review of the phone. Anyone have any solutions?
I'm glad somebody posted this. I was at the airport, all excited to try out my fancy new hotspot, but got disappointing results. It initialized fine and my computer was able to connect to both the phone and the internet. But the 4G constantly dropped to the point where it was basically unusable. I'd get ~30 seconds of blazing fast speed, followed back a DNS lookup error that would persist for seconds to minutes. Hoping it's a software issue.
I have not had any problems with my hot spot. I was able to play a few hours of CoD black ops 2 with no lag or disconnections.
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ComputerGeek said:
It looks like the Droid DNA has some tethering/hotspot connectivity issues when connected to some Apple devices such as the iPad. The 4g connection would just drop on a random basis when tethering using the official options in settings. Hotspot issues have somewhat been confirmed in the Slashgear review of the phone. Anyone have any solutions?
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I've also not had any hotspot problems. I'm rooted though and using wifi tether from the market and it has been working flawlessly. It has an option to ping servers and download a few packets at set intervals in order to prevent DNS issues and connection drops, works like a charm.
I think issues with the stock wifi app is common on Verizon. Before my DNA I had a droid Incredible that had connection issues. If only doing light web browsing the app seemed to work ok, but if you went to a site with a large number of images, or tried to watch a video, or download a file it often would lose the network. I looked into the problem and it seems like the app had issues with most phones. My solution was to root and install Wifi Tether. Not only do I like the functionality of Wifi Tether better but i never had anymore issues after installing it.
With my DNA the stock app seems to be much better. I've been getting download speeds around 15-30 Mb/s all day. I'm still considering rooting for Wifi Tether though for the functionality and stability.
I have to return the DNA because I need to be able to tether to my iPad and Macbook. The phone does tether properly to my Windows 7 notebook though. I really don't feel like using a third party solution for tethering/hotspot functionality.
I have problems when I use my iPad. Very annoying.
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ComputerGeek said:
It looks like the Droid DNA has some tethering/hotspot connectivity issues when connected to some Apple devices such as the iPad. The 4g connection would just drop on a random basis when tethering using the official options in settings. Hotspot issues have somewhat been confirmed in the Slashgear review of the phone. Anyone have any solutions?
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I picked one up on launch day and used it for about a week, everything was fine except the data dropped repeatedly with the Mobile Hotspot app. I went back to the store I bought it from and there wasn't any more! They found a store at Stonestown that had 2, so I zipped over there and they swapped it out. We tested it by swapping out the Sim card on the original unit, after I also did a factory reset, but it was still bad. So got a fresh one and it seems to be better but when I first turn Mobile Hotspot on, it drops a couple times but then its good and stable. Not ideal, but usable whereas the first one was not. Hopefully they'll give an update for this, it'll be super badass when this is solid.
I'm still having issues with my DNA hotspot. It works for a few minutes, then the connection drops.
Internet works fine on the device itself, but tethered devices have problems.
I've tried in multiple locations. I've tried with the following devices: iPad, Android tablet, MacBook Pro, Dell Windows laptop. The result is always the same. My devices are able to connect to the hotspot on the DNA, Internet works briefly, then stops working.
Made a few calls to Verizon tech support, and I've done all the troubleshooting with both tier 1 and tier 2 reps. Next step will be swapping out the device at the store...
Glad to see I'm not the only one having these issues... Tethering to either my iPad or Macbook pro over wifi is horrible. My workaround has been to use USB or bluetooth tethering instead. I haven't tried any of the 3rd party tether apps yet, though since I'm rooted I'll probably get them going at some point.
I just swapped out my DNA at my local Verizon store. So far, the results have been mixed.
My connection pauses briefly, then kicks back in after 20-30 seconds. This is slightly better than before--my connection just plain stopped.
Laptop and Android tablet are faring better than my iPad. The connection with my iPad 4th gen. freezes and doesn't come back.
Verizon reps said there were no known issues. But clearly I am not the only person having problems with hotspot.
Tempted to root, cyanogen mod, and wifi tether the old fashioned way...
Either that or take my DNA back and just get the iPhone. By the way, my wife's iPhone 5 is attached to my account and works flawlessly with all devices and in all locations. Her smug smile is starting to grate on my nerves!
Never used the stock tether app but i use the rooted wifi tether app with the following settings as my main source of internet on my laptop without any issues
Profile - HTC rezound
Method - Netd-Ndc (master)
Wifi-Driver reload - (check)
MSS clamping - (check)
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I don't have any issues when tethering with my Windows 8 installation, but tethering with my Linux installation has been iffy.
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I just swapped out my DNA at my local Verizon store. So far, the results have been mixed.
My connection pauses briefly, then kicks back in after 20-30 seconds. This is slightly better than before--my connection just plain stopped.
Laptop and Android tablet are faring better than my iPad. The connection with my iPad 4th gen. freezes and doesn't come back.
Verizon reps said there were no known issues. But clearly I am not the only person having problems with hotspot.
Tempted to root, cyanogen mod, and wifi tether the old fashioned way...
Either that or take my DNA back and just get the iPhone. By the way, my wife's iPhone 5 is attached to my account and works flawlessly with all devices and in all locations. Her smug smile is starting to grate on my nerves!
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My 17" MBP kept timing out trying to connect to the stock Hotspot.
I had this same exact problem with the I first got my Rezound, and then it got fixed in an update later on. Can't believe they're having the same exact problem again!
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My 17" MBP kept timing out trying to connect to the stock Hotspot.
I had this same exact problem with the I first got my Rezound, and then it got fixed in an update later on. Can't believe they're having the same exact problem again!
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I was afraid of that. I've heard of other people having problems with other HTC phones and the Apple devices that try to tether. Guess I'll just have to wait for the fix.
Well, I called VZW today, they had told me that it IS a known issue and HTC has not responded yet... so they forwarded me to HTC and HTC had told me I needed to send my phone in. I called VZW back and they are sending me a new device! will follow up once I get it.
For me its my Android Tablet and Windows 8 PC that is connecting to my phone. So its not just apple products.
On my third DNA already. Still having the same problems with hotspot. At this point there is no sense in swapping devices. Guess i will just have to wait for them to fix it with a patch.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one having these issues... Tethering to either my iPad or Macbook pro over wifi is horrible. My workaround has been to use USB or bluetooth tethering instead. I haven't tried any of the 3rd party tether apps yet, though since I'm rooted I'll probably get them going at some point.
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Just installed the Wifi Tether App from the app store, and used the settings that Cdoan34 posted above, it it works reliably for me. I think there's something messed up with the way the stock tether app interfaces with the radios or something. Using the stock thether app you can see the 4G/3G icon flap on and off like the phone can't keep the data connection up.
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I just picked up the TB and this is my first real Android phone, I had been hanging on to an old HTC vogue and running android on it dual with windows 6.5.
Glad I made the upgrade and wanted to lock in the 29.99 unlimited plan on a 4G phone. With that said I have a few questions regarding tether.
I have used tether on my vogue for years through the windows 6.5 internet connection sharing, never been charged and tether 6 hours a day everyday for last 3 years.
I see the Thunderbolt has a "internet connection sharing" mode under the wireless settings area, now my question
Is this the same as the internet sharing in windows mobile and would verizon charge me if I use it on droid? I guess a better question would be why bother using easytether or pdanet if its built into droid?
A friend has a droid X and said he doesn't have "internet connection sharing" mode under his wireless settings.
I use an older pc at work for this and it doesnt have wifi, so I prefer to tether with a usb cable so it charges the phone as well.
in regards to the TB, I like it alot, one thing I found stupid was the fact they put the usb/charging port on the opposite site of the kickstand hinge, so you can't have it charging while using the kickstand because the port is facing the surface of the table..wow
Because those are the VZW tether options. IOW, they "see" when you are using those and charge you for the tether data plan. Just wait till it's rooted. (actually you have till may 15th to use the VZW one for free.)
Speaking of which, has anybody else used it yet? Mine kept restarting every few minutes last night when I was testing it out and wouldn't just stay on. Anyone else had any similar problems?
Right now tethering is free with the mobile hotspot until may. I don't know if the USB tethering built into the phone is free but I would assume that its until may also. Once we have root though we should be able to tether for free no matter what using third party apps.
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I see but what I am saying is I have used the built in internet sharing in windows mobile for years, never charged. no third party apps, nothing just what came on the phone from verizon
Oh, well I can't answer whether or not they will actually start charging after may. I know the one time I tried to use the builtin app with my D2 it came up to a verizon start page and said I needed to upgrade my plan or some nonsense like that. Ever since then I have just used wireless tether from the market after rooting.
update..I went ahead and tried out the "internet sharing mode" under wireless & network settings, connected to my Windows 7 netbook, was prompt to install the drivers, then it works, no verizon page warning me about having a plan or anything.
I read in previous versions on Android this was not built in, in Froyo 2.2 it was built in, verizon and other carriers generally disabled those features in the past but it works on the thunderbolt. If they charge me i'll raise hell since I have been tethering unpaid for 3+ years.
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If they charge me i'll raise hell since I have been tethering unpaid for 3+ years.
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Not sure how that statement would help your case.
I have been using ICS for free on my WinMo devices too. I wasn't using the stock ROM on them though, I was running custom ROMs, so maybe that was the reason.
Not sure how that statement would help your case.
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may not, but I will point out the fact I never been charged for it prior and i'll happily cancel my account and go elsewhere for service, regardless of fee's for getting out of contract. Just saying since I have yet to be charged for tethering unless I get notice from vzw stating I need to purchase a tethering plan I will continue to use it, if it works out of the box with no warnings about it being a paid feature I will not pay for it.
Last night I was looking for a video on youtube on my photon, and my wife was searching on our old laptop. Both were connected to our WiFi router, and we were sitting right next to each other. The laptop was MUCH faster than the photon, and the photon kept hanging in the middle of videos.
I'm pretty sure it was a wireless issue. I turned off WiFi and ran it on 3G, and it ran faster with no signal drops! I went back to WiFi and the performance dropped significantly.
Any suggestions for how to improve the WiFi performance? Would a newer router help? The 2300 is tried & true, and I've always like it. Does WiFi channel matter? Other ideas?
I'm not rooted, if that matters for any response.
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Last night I was looking for a video on youtube on my photon, and my wife was searching on our old laptop. Both were connected to our WiFi router, and we were sitting right next to each other. The laptop was MUCH faster than the photon, and the photon kept hanging in the middle of videos.
I'm pretty sure it was a wireless issue. I turned off WiFi and ran it on 3G, and it ran faster with no signal drops! I went back to WiFi and the performance dropped significantly.
Any suggestions for how to improve the WiFi performance? Would a newer router help? The 2300 is tried & true, and I've always like it. Does WiFi channel matter? Other ideas?
I'm not rooted, if that matters for any response.
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What build version are you currently on? Have you flashed any of the updates or is the phone stock from Sprint?
I don't think a new router would help. My wifes nexus s 4g always has better signal strength than my photon when on wifi, I compared it to a friends Htc sensation connected to the same router and he had the better signal strength, and places where my evo 4g use to get a very weak signal but was still able to connect the photon won't connect at all.
Just some info to add to the OP....
I have a good router at home and a good one at work (different brands) and my WiFi is fast and smooth while at work but sometimes at home it is slow and chunky. Very sporadic at home for some reason and it never seemed to happen until after one of the updates.
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Just some info to add to the OP....
I have a good router at home and a good one at work (different brands) and my WiFi is fast and smooth while at work but sometimes at home it is slow and chunky. Very sporadic at home for some reason and it never seemed to happen until after one of the updates.
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I have the same issue after the last "update". It seems to lose the wi-fi connection and keeps any network from connecting. I have to turn the wifi off and wait for the 3G to connect or I won't get any mail. I can't figure out what changed, but it used to work perfectly. I'm contemplating rolling back to the first update.
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What build version are you currently on? Have you flashed any of the updates or is the phone stock from Sprint?
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I have installed all OTA updates to date.
Build No. 4.5.1A-1_SUN-154_6
Ok, I bit the bullet and used RSD to roll back to the earliest version of the code (I didn't lose any data or even the location of the widgets on my screen) and it totally fixed the WiFi issues I've been having. Plus the battery seems to last quite a bit longer. I thought that the latest update was a loser, this just proves it.
I came to the conclusion on my own that the photon doesn't like any mixed wifi signals; i had my 2.4ghz router running with mixed b/g/n for wireless and it didnt play nice. Once i changed it to n only it worked way better.......
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Ok, I bit the bullet and used RSD to roll back to the earliest version of the code (I didn't lose any data or even the location of the widgets on my screen) and it totally fixed the WiFi issues I've been having. Plus the battery seems to last quite a bit longer. I thought that the latest update was a loser, this just proves it.
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I am experiencing the same wifi issues after updating to 198_6. Which version did you roll back to?
I would be interested in knowing what version also,, I'm sure if I did some research I can find out on my own in the meantime,,,,
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Sorry to be so late responding. I've been away from the forum for awhile (been out slumming with the iPhone crowd trying to see what the panic was about).
1FF-sunfire-user-2.3.4-4.5.1A-1_SUN-154_5-CM-release-keys-signed-Sprint-US.sbf
is the one I used. I just accidentally applied the OTA update and the WIFI issues returned. Back to the drawing board. I guess I need to do the "no OTA update" hack.
EXACTLY! This has been happening to me now on TWO Phones! I can't say that it's been just my home router though. I took my phone into the sprint store, hooked up to their wifi and same problem... Right off the bat it didn't connect to the market.
This happens at home and is super frustrating. I will get to browse a couple pages/apps/zedge then nothing. I've even had it go retarded enough to pop up the 3G icon as well as the wifi signal indicator...? No up/down arrows showed in the 3G to indicate data transfer but I was just like WTF?
So now when I leave my house, out of range of wifi, my phone blows up with e-mails, apps I've had in queue, etc.
I've noticed these problems more with the most recent update but I didn't spend too much time browsing without it though. Maybe I'll get a new one from Sprint and just never apply the update.
**EDIT: Both times I've received one of these phones the only update I've done is the most recent one. I haven't bothered checking the software version they are coming with. Is it possible they're no longer putting out the first update and these aren't cumulative? Just a shot in the dark but maybe I needed that first update before the second to make things jive. It's unlikely they would put out updates in this manner but I'm grasping for straws here.
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I came to the conclusion on my own that the photon doesn't like any mixed wifi signals; i had my 2.4ghz router running with mixed b/g/n for wireless and it didnt play nice. Once i changed it to n only it worked way better.......
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My experience is different. The phone connects and works great at the office but not so great at home. Both routers are set on mixed. Not sure what the difference is (besides the brand of router). I do know the one at home is handing out IPs but the one at work is not. The server handles that.
Not sure what else could make a difference.
Just got my third Photon from the sprint store and same issue. This one already had the 42.5.7 update installed on it but wifi has been flakey. I'm convinced that it's something in the software combined with the wifi we are using. The ridiculous thing is I have a motorola SBG 900 that I use for wireless at home so you would think they would be compatible. I really like the phone otherwise so I hope a new update is right around the corner.
Just went and bought a $160 modem/router combo and my phone has no issues at all with wireless now...
Three Photons in a week and a good chunk of cash later and I can use wifi at home. And now that I've finally had time to play with it I find out wifi tether only does ad hoc natively.
I wouldn't mind having my Evo Shift back.
I'm having the same problem. I updated to 198_6 as part of the testing group and at first had no problems with Wifi. Now when I am connected to wifi (both at work and at home) I can't send or receive text messages, download from the market, nada. As soon as I connect back to 4G everything works perfectly. I'm gonna roll back tonight to the previous update. BTW, I also updated my PRL to 51082 and that didn't seem to help.
Is the problem basically where wifi is connected to the router then stops going past that? Like you still have an ip but no data?
If so try turning off notifications for gmail or turning off the "notify once option". This seemed to help me lose my connection to where i had flip on/off the wifi radio.
Let me know how you fare with this.
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Are you running any "turbo or super G" like modes set on the router? I remember reading on the motorola forums that these sometimes may cause issues - other things, router firmware update if applicable... do you have an airave device? If so, make sure the distance between that and the router are more than 5ft apart in distance.
Still, in your situation - streaming over the wifi shouldn't be an issue with bandwidth to keep in consideration, but realistically speaking - that should be better than 3g speeds for video playback.
These were some of the thing I had picked up from while troubleshooting an ongoing issue I am still having with my old d-link di-624 and photon getting stuck at "obtaining an IP address" on the official Motorola photon forums. In the latter situation, mine will connect if I reboot the router... my other tablets and laptops connect flawlessly on this.
ok so look i know this is an app, but lets be honest how many of you actually go in that sub forum?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.foxfi
foxfi is a new wifi tether app that promises no root required, is free, and claims to have a fairly high rate of allowing tablets to connect. saw it in the e4gt forums and figured you guys might like to know . it claims most moto phones, gf is on hers so i cant verify if photon is one of them :/...
edit: ok just tested, tethered my e4gt to my gf's photon XD
no hacks or nothing needed we are both unrooted stock, it didnt like trying to tether with 4g tho, so its 3g speeds only :/
Sweet find for those who aren't rooted!
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Great Find!
I know you said no root required, but will it work on a stock rom and if so, will a carrier still be able to see if you are tethering like they can if you use wifi hotshot on a stock rom?
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foxfi
fyi....I just had total success with foxfi generating a hotspot for an ipad 2 and a transformer prime tablet from a Droid Global 2.
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I know you said no root required, but will it work on a stock rom and if so, will a carrier still be able to see if you are tethering like they can if you use wifi hotshot on a stock rom?
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my gf's photon is stock 198_7, works fine... as for if sprint knows i guess we will find out when our next bill comes huh?
I tried it on a photon running 198-7, flashed fresh this afternoon, rooted, unlocked bootloader with CWM applied. No go. FoxFi appears to initiate the stock hotpot app which in turn results in the IP registration error you get when launching the stock app. Tried with wifi on, but not connected, and with wifi off both suggested as troubleshooting steps by FoxFi.
Curious what others are experiencing using a blur rom
yea it will give taht error, but from what ive seen let it sit for 3-4 mins and it will finally re-register
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ok so look i know this is an app, but lets be honest how many of you actually go in that sub forum?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.foxfi
foxfi is a new wifi tether app that promises no root required, is free, and claims to have a fairly high rate of allowing tablets to connect. saw it in the e4gt forums and figured you guys might like to know . it claims most moto phones, gf is on hers so i cant verify if photon is one of them :/...
edit: ok just tested, tethered my e4gt to my gf's photon XD
no hacks or nothing needed we are both unrooted stock, it didnt like trying to tether with 4g tho, so its 3g speeds only :/
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yea it will give taht error, but from what ive seen let it sit for 3-4 mins and it will finally re-register
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As shabbypenguin stated mine does the same thing on wifi tether and this app....... Its normal and the data connection will come back
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Just try it and can say it only works on 3g , when I try it on 4g it gets disconnected
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I told a guy at work about this, he has big red (Droid charge), tried it out and OMG. I pulled 21 mb down and 10.5 up. Makes me want to switch. If only their phones weren't so damn expensive.
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I have also made the connection on my Photon at 3g speeds. Is there anything at all that can be done to make it work at 4G speeds. My 4G does not disconnect when I am using it as a mobile hotspot. It appears that it is the FoxFi app and not the actual phone causing this issue.
Moto Photon Foxfi only in 3G mode and Alternative 4G tethering
I too believe that it is FoxFi that is causing the disconnection in the 4G signal when trying to activate it on the Motorola Photon (MB855). An alternative would just to grab your USB cable connect your laptop directly to your phone and get PdaNet app (I know this works on Windows with an Android Phone) and you can connect to the 4G. (with great speed too, I have gotten 1+ MB/s downstream) It's not wireless but at least it won't kill your battery and you can charge your phone at the same time!
And if you feel bad because all your friends stare you down because you are the only one connected you can get Virtual Router from codeplex website and you can turn your laptop into a hotspot
hopefully there will be a fix or a different application that does not require root
feel free to pm me with suggestions or questions
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I got an update from PDAnet and FOXFI was the update and it works great. I have a Droid 3 and am not rooted.
Does it work with 4G? Or 3G.
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It works with 3G on my Droid3.
I'm rooted on my SE4GT, and pc sees Android34, but cannot connect.
I disconnected 4G also.
In FoxFi, in the upper right hand corner, there are Bytes that keep flashing from 1K/316 to 1K/0 etc. Don't know if that's an issue, whether the app is activated or not.
this is working great for me......I'm stock rooted on ek02. haven't checked 4g, but 3g works like a champ. i didn't have to modify anything.... i can imagine it probably won't be on the Android market long.
My acer a500 tablet see's the connection fine
It does not work on Xperia Play for Verizon. Hotspot starts but when connected to takes you to Verizon's hot spot page.
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I know the custom ROMs have a few nice features and clean up some dead wood.
But do any absolutely Fix any of the network issues?
For the record I'm considering OMJ's or Flipz's.
Some background for my question if you interested.
This phone is really starting to suck (Stock Rooted only, no mods).
I really wanted to hold out for possible S-OFF to try any custom ROMs but the phone is becoming useless without doing something.
Last weekend I used my Wifes EVO 3D (my old phone with MeanROM ICS 2.2 on it).
I Tethered from West of Boston to Central NH (2 hr 20 min drive) with out a glitch.
Phone was running Navigation and WIFI Tethered the whole way.
Not one glitch. I've done it many times. My wifes former Touch Pro 2 and EVO 4G was also just as reliable.
Same trip this weekend with the EVO 4G LTE.
Laptop lost WIFI connection to EVO 4G LTE like 5 times.
Sometimes I could get it back by reconnecting or restarting WIFI Tether.
Other times I had to reboot phone, and other times I had to reboot the Laptop to get it back. It just flat out refused to see the phone any more. Even tried shutting WIFI off on laptop and phone, but no, PC or Phone required a reboot not always the same either.
It was also fairly slow and laggy. Just aweful.
When I leave my house with WIFI on, the EVO LTE phone stays connected to WIFI and gets no data until I shut WIFI off. It works fine if I leave work with WIFI on though.
I know there are patches to remove smartsync in several ROMs but the phone was not going to sleep during most of these issues (Had Nav running).
You would need a ROM where someone actually rewrote some code . That's probably not going to happen till source comes out
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You would need a ROM where someone actually rewrote some code . That's probably not going to happen till source comes out
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That might be true but certainly not always true.
And if it is "code" I must depend on that get fixed it's likely a driver and most developers on XDA don't do drivers.
And that "code" could also be on the Radio Side (where I suspect the real issues are) and that code is never released.
Doing things like enabling the 2nd Core full time (which is enabled on my EVEO 3D) might make things run more stable. I don't know.
Most "code" on my EVO 3D is "stock" it's just borrowed from different phones and some build.prop tweaks.
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I know the custom ROMs have a few nice features and clean up some dead wood.
But do any absolutely Fix any of the network issues?
For the record I'm considering OMJ's or Flipz's.
Some background for my question if you interested.
This phone is really starting to suck (Stock Rooted only, no mods).
I really wanted to hold out for possible S-OFF to try any custom ROMs but the phone is becoming useless without doing something.
Last weekend I used my Wifes EVO 3D (my old phone with MeanROM ICS 2.2 on it).
I Tethered from West of Boston to Central NH (2 hr 20 min drive) with out a glitch.
Phone was running Navigation and WIFI Tethered the whole way.
Not one glitch. I've done it many times. My wifes former Touch Pro 2 and EVO 4G was also just as reliable.
Same trip this weekend with the EVO 4G LTE.
Laptop lost WIFI connection to EVO 4G LTE like 5 times.
Sometimes I could get it back by reconnecting or restarting WIFI Tether.
Other times I had to reboot phone, and other times I had to reboot the Laptop to get it back. It just flat out refused to see the phone any more. Even tried shutting WIFI off on laptop and phone, but no, PC or Phone required a reboot not always the same either.
It was also fairly slow and laggy. Just aweful.
When I leave my house with WIFI on, the EVO LTE phone stays connected to WIFI and gets no data until I shut WIFI off. It works fine if I leave work with WIFI on though.
I know there are patches to remove smartsync in several ROMs but the phone was not going to sleep during most of these issues (Had Nav running).
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Just my experience : zero difference in connectivity issues (cellular or WiFi) . Previous 3d and OGEVO both had their issues but in the exact same locations I used them ( work WiFi home WiFi commute cellular) -this thing is just bad comparitively. Wireless N (100Mgps down from Cisco rtr) at office drops CONSTANTLY and even just running l navigation will drop out from suburbs to city ( Chicago ) . Go to Mexico this week and I was there in December and was stunned how well Telcel''s network operated ( very fast 3g no dropped calls - thank god work picks up the tab). New York and San Francisco the week after in which I am very familiar with how my service usually acts so ill have some controls to measure against. Very dissapointing so far LTE can't get here glfast enough- realize I veered slightly off topic but , no, I haven't seen any major difference other than great battery life on Vipers
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For the record I am currently using Viper ROM and I currently have absolutely no issues paring the phone to my car via Bluetooth in comparison to the stock ROM where my phone will not hold a bluetooth connection.
Dude, honestly, u need to take your phone back and exchange it. Had the same problem with WiFi dropping constantly, about every 5 seconds. Would go to 3g then WiFi. Sometimes switching settings would help, tried rooting and did numerous roms, fixes, mods, but the problem was still there.
Well, I took my phone back bc I bricked the secure element somehow and my new phone has none of those issues. I believe it is a faulty receiver/radio. Trust me and take it back for a new one before your 30 days is up. U will thank me.
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I got my evo this past friday and I've been using my wifi more than my 3G and i haven't had problems. May wanna take it back and have them check it out.
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I know the custom ROMs have a few nice features and clean up some dead wood.
But do any absolutely Fix any of the network issues?
For the record I'm considering OMJ's or Flipz's.
Some background for my question if you interested.
This phone is really starting to suck (Stock Rooted only, no mods).
I really wanted to hold out for possible S-OFF to try any custom ROMs but the phone is becoming useless without doing something.
Last weekend I used my Wifes EVO 3D (my old phone with MeanROM ICS 2.2 on it).
I Tethered from West of Boston to Central NH (2 hr 20 min drive) with out a glitch.
Phone was running Navigation and WIFI Tethered the whole way.
Not one glitch. I've done it many times. My wifes former Touch Pro 2 and EVO 4G was also just as reliable.
Same trip this weekend with the EVO 4G LTE.
Laptop lost WIFI connection to EVO 4G LTE like 5 times.
Sometimes I could get it back by reconnecting or restarting WIFI Tether.
Other times I had to reboot phone, and other times I had to reboot the Laptop to get it back. It just flat out refused to see the phone any more. Even tried shutting WIFI off on laptop and phone, but no, PC or Phone required a reboot not always the same either.
It was also fairly slow and laggy. Just aweful.
When I leave my house with WIFI on, the EVO LTE phone stays connected to WIFI and gets no data until I shut WIFI off. It works fine if I leave work with WIFI on though.
I know there are patches to remove smartsync in several ROMs but the phone was not going to sleep during most of these issues (Had Nav running).
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I'm in RI and kept my Evo og just for tethering. If you were satisfied with the 3d, then the lte will seem more effectual in fringe area reception. Though not as good as the OG in my particular area. The og bounces across a bay without issues. Did I just say sprint has shoddy coverage? Whoops. Didn't mean to.
What I'm getting to is that the risk of depending on htc unlock, vs new radios might be worth evaluating.
Anthonicia said:
Dude, honestly, u need to take your phone back and exchange it. Had the same problem with WiFi dropping constantly, about every 5 seconds. Would go to 3g then WiFi. Sometimes switching settings would help, tried rooting and did numerous roms, fixes, mods, but the problem was still there.
Well, I took my phone back bc I bricked the secure element somehow and my new phone has none of those issues. I believe it is a faulty receiver/radio. Trust me and take it back for a new one before your 30 days is up. U will thank me.
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Thanks for the data point.
I did try calling Sprint and the tech said I need to shut WIFI off when I leave home and work. They were clueless. After I explained to them how it's supposed to work they said I need to have tech look at it.
Yeah I'm sure they can repeat the problems at will. Some days it's fine.
I don't get WIFI drop outs. Biggest problem is it won't let go of the WIFI when I leave home and that locks data up until I toggle the WIFI enable. Leaving work it's fine.
I have put a custom ROM on it now (flipz). And it's running better. But did have to switch it to 2.4Ghz only again. I do like some the custom ROM features and it allows be to better monitor Data (since it show 1x or 3x) and I can do full nandroid backup to compare changes.
However I did see the bouncey thing when you wake it goes to WIFI to 3G to WIFI again and that I believe is a sign of it struggling.
Then I looked into my Router for more settings to play with and learned Bluetooth can interfere with WIFI (i.e. there are settings for it in my router).
I'm 99% sure this is the problem (and may or may not be the phones fault).
This would explain why a "new" phone could fix an issue because each time you pair a bluetooth device it may choose a different channel. Some channels will conflict with WIFI more than others.
It may explain why some people have no issues too. Can depend on your bluetooth devices as well.
I started a seperate thread on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721196
I'm amazed nobody has responded.
For grins I left Bluetooth off today and it has run flawless. It didn't get stuck on WIFI when I leave home and it always did.
I need to dig into how to check what channel bluetooth is paired on and how I can control what channel is uses.
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Thanks for the data point.
I did try calling Sprint and the tech said I need to shut WIFI off when I leave home and work. They were clueless. After I explained to them how it's supposed to work they said I need to have tech look at it.
Yeah I'm sure they can repeat the problems at will. Some days it's fine.
I don't get WIFI drop outs. Biggest problem is it won't let go of the WIFI when I leave home and that locks data up until I toggle the WIFI enable. Leaving work it's fine.
I have put a custom ROM on it now (flipz). And it's running better. But did have to switch it to 2.4Ghz only again. I do like some the custom ROM features and it allows be to better monitor Data (since it show 1x or 3x) and I can do full nandroid backup to compare changes.
However I did see the bouncey thing when you wake it goes to WIFI to 3G to WIFI again and that I believe is a sign of it struggling.
Then I looked into my Router for more settings to play with and learned Bluetooth can interfere with WIFI (i.e. there are settings for it in my router).
I'm 99% sure this is the problem (and may or may not be the phones fault).
This would explain why a "new" phone could fix an issue because each time you pair a bluetooth device it may choose a different channel. Some channels will conflict with WIFI more than others.
It may explain why some people have no issues too. Can depend on your bluetooth devices as well.
I started a seperate thread on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721196
I'm amazed nobody has responded.
For grins I left Bluetooth off today and it has run flawless. It didn't get stuck on WIFI when I leave home and it always did.
I need to dig into how to check what channel bluetooth is paired on and how I can control what channel is uses.
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I think you're onto something... If I leave the house and wifi sticks on, then I normally have to reboot phone before I can connect to wifi again. Simply toggling wifi off and on doesn't work.
So on a whim, I turned off bluetooth. Then turned wifi off and back on, and bam! Connected! Hmmmm....
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For the record I am currently using Viper ROM and I currently have absolutely no issues paring the phone to my car via Bluetooth in comparison to the stock ROM where my phone will not hold a bluetooth connection.
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Weird. I had opposite. Rooted, S-off and flashed MeanROM which really liked but bluetooth on one of my cars that was foolproof on stock became very hard to connect. Went back to stock and connects fine again. Miss the customization and may try again. Was a good exercise putting back to stock if ever need to return phone to Sprint.
OK, I've seen a lot of posts in various forums about this issue, but have yet to find a single thread that captures all the details about what I've experienced. Let me know if I should move this conversation into a different thread.
On my home wifi network, I am able to connect, but constantly receive the error "internet connection is unstable", and I cannot pull any data over wifi. I noticed this issue on my home network after returning from a business trip this week. I'd previously seen the issue occasionally in hotels, etc, and had already disabled the "Passpoint" and "Auto network switch settings". That seemed to work on the road, but now that I'm at home, I'm unable to pull any data over wifi.
My home router is a TP-Link Archer C7, running the latest firmware.
Per Verizon and Samsung's advice, I cleared the cache partition, "forgot" and reconnected to the network, tried using safe mode, and tried a factory reset of the phone. I also restarted the router and changed the router's broadcast channels.
Last night, I rooted the phone via Kingo and installed the Jelly 'Beans' rom using SafeStrap, since I wasn't getting satisfactory answers from support. To my surprise, the issue also occurred on the new rom. I'm not an Android expert, but it seems like this means its either:
1) a hardware issue, or
2) a lower-level software issue (radio firmware? not sure how that works)
I removed root and safestrap, to continue support options with Verizon, but I wanted to ping the community here for suggestions. The timing is confusing to me. I'm pretty sure, though not certain, that I've used my home network successfully since the 12/17 OTA update. However, since so many others are seeing issues, it seems unlikely that this is a hardware issue.
Could others describe their issues and router, so we can look for patterns? Let me know if I should move this into a different thread.
Thanks!
Mine does the same thing from time to time but only on certain roms
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yeah, I'd seen intermittent issues previously, but all of a sudden it stopped working at home entirely. Still connects to some other networks, although not all.
After seeing a bunch of posts on the Verizon forums (and just the general timing and behavior of the issue) it seemed like a software problem.
Verizon is actually cooperating, so I may just end up replacing this phone. Wondering if anyone else has seen wifi completely break like this.
This is the only thing I can not stand about my note
I have a Zyxel WAP3205 WIFI access point (Wireless G) that I use at both work and at home.
At home, I have Comcast Business Cable internet, and have absolutely no issues connecting to it. The WAP is connected to a Belkin N600 router, which is then connected to my cable modem (not sure of the model, shouldn't matter TBQH).
At work on the other hand, I have constant connection issues. Albeit, I don't get the 'connection is unstable' notification, but I get constant connect/disconnect problems. I also have almost no (most of the time I can't even send/receive text messages at my desk.....) phone signal (ie not even 1X). I'm not sure if that plays into it at all either. The company I work for uses Windstream for their ISP, and it's complete crap to be perfectly honest. Needless to say, it doesn't change the fact that I'm connecting to the internet through the same device (well, same model/firmware/etc...), and I'm having issues at 1 place and not at the other.
I might also add that my tablet (Nexus 7 2013 running CM11) doesn't seem to have these issues at all and works just fine via the WIFI.
That's about the only information that I can provide. I know my internet where I work is complete crap. I sometimes remote desktop back to my home server to browse the web and download files via that because it's actually faster. I'm not even kidding.
I have 2 routers at home and have experienced the same issue as well and none of my other devices have this problem
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Verizon is shipping a replacement phone to me tomorrow, so I'll test this out and see if it makes a difference. I'm on the road until Thursday, so it'll be a few days before I can check on my home router.
The behavior on this issue just seems strange. It began intermittently, but then completely stopped working at my house (but still sometimes works elsewhere). Lots of people report intermittent issues, but a few seem completely broken. Not sure what to make of it, I'm just glad I was able to get a different device out of Verizon. We'll see if that actually fixes the problem.
I haven't had this notification until I got the Note3. Is it possible that its android 4.3? Or this tw 4.3? Anybody know if other folks get this with other devices?
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I haven't had this notification until I got the Note3. Is it possible that its android 4.3? Or this tw 4.3? Anybody know if other folks get this with other devices?
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I only have this problem if I connect to the wifi at work, which is odd because I'm about 7 unobstructed feet away from the AP. I don't get this anywhere else.
I had a Note2 on stock rom up to 4.3 and never had the issue. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 latest version, again, no problem. It's only on my Note3 with stock rom that this happens.
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I only have this problem if I connect to the wifi at work, which is odd because I'm about 7 unobstructed feet away from the AP. I don't get this anywhere else.
I had a Note2 on stock rom up to 4.3 and never had the issue. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 latest version, again, no problem. It's only on my Note3 with stock rom that this happens.
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It happens on custom roms too.
I've asked a couple devs if they could remove it and they said it been like that in android for along time.But I never experienced it until my Note 3
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I only have this problem if I connect to the wifi at work, which is odd because I'm about 7 unobstructed feet away from the AP. I don't get this anywhere else.
I had a Note2 on stock rom up to 4.3 and never had the issue. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 latest version, again, no problem. It's only on my Note3 with stock rom that this happens.
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Same here. Never happened on my Note2 but happens all the time on my Note3. I have two Linksys Routers at home for full house coverage and I can be in the next room and get that message. Just got it earlier. Same routers as I had with the N2 a few months ago. My Tablet, nor the Spouses HTC One Max have that issue and are connecting just fine, and stay connected.
I get this all the time. Got it on stock as well. Only really happens with my ghetto satellite Internet though lol
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Has anyone with this issue installed AdBlock and/or an ad-blocking HOSTS file? I didn't start seeing this problem until I did both.
Whenever I see this message I can go into the speedtest.net app and pull a continuous 60mbits down, pretty much maxing my connection, and I never see any actual stability issues.
I think the system may have some connectivity test that's being interfered with but I haven't had time to go digging through the logs yet, so I wanted to see if anyone else had done what I did to trigger it first.
Seems to be two different issues being discussed here without really differentiating the two... the OP states that he is always getting the notification and "can't pull any data over wifi" ... others are saying they are getting the notification without really stating if it is affecting their overall wifi performance at all.
I'm on AT&T DSL... I was getting the notification ALL THE TIME while using the supplied (4 year old) AT&T 2Wire router and it would fail and freeze and disconnect and it was DRIVING ME NUTS... so i went out and got a brand new Netgear N300 router and problem is solved ... mostly
I'm still using the AT&T 2Wire as a modem... disabled it's internal wifi... ethernet cable to the Netgear. .. and BINGO!!! All my connection problems and data problems have gone away... i still get the unstable notification maybe once or twice a week but i figure that's a DSL thing... any little glitches in Internet availability will be detected by the device and displayed so that doesn't bother me at all.
It's almost like this phone does ping tests all the time and if one doesn't come back properly it throws the notification...
i was at a friends house the other day and was getting the notification constantly but was still able to watch YouTube videos and Netflix without much problem... so i did some speed tests on his wifi and his ping and upload were all over the place... His download speed was solid between 20 and 28 but his upload was never even close to normal and failed several times... and his ping was good on some and took forever on others... i also noticed Web pages would sometimes take forever to start loading ... Once they started loading they did so quickly but the start was painfully slow a lot of the time... This would indicate to me that the ping or upload connection has issues or maybe over congested on his iSP.
Anyway... hope this helps others iron things out
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Seems to be two different issues being discussed here without really differentiating the two... the OP states that he is always getting the notification and "can't pull any data over wifi" ... others are saying they are getting the notification without really stating if it is affecting their overall wifi performance at all.
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When I get the notification, it refuses to use the wifi at all.
I haven't noticed any problems with my WiFi. I host 6 wireless networks, and play with WiFi a lot, War driving, and wireless network setup is a hobby of mine.
One thing I noticed at several throttled Hot Spots My VZW note 3 would test the WiFi speed, if it was slower than 4G it would display a popup, something to the effect "Wireless too slow, using mobile Data" I can't remember the exact popup text. It might be a VZW thing.
I use the OOKLA speedtest, free from the play store. (After you run your OOKLA test, for fun drag the speedometer down to reveal some cool messages about Ookla!
A few wireless router settings I use:
Set 2.4 to N 20 Megs max. N 40 or AC mostly just creates problems with connections, and the neighborhood.
Channels 1, 6, or 11 in USA Use a WiFi analyzer app and pick a less cluttered WiFi channel.
Place wireless router up high away from electronics, construction, and stuffs. Mine is on a pedestal in a window.
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One thing I noticed at several throttled Hot Spots My VZW note 3 would test the WiFi speed, if it was slower than 4G it would display a popup, something to the effect "Wireless too slow, using mobile Data" I can't remember the exact popup text. It might be a VZW thing.
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Go to WiFi settings/advanced/auto network switch... and turn that off so it won't jump off slow WiFi networks
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Go to WiFi settings/advanced/auto network switch... and turn that off so it won't jump off slow WiFi networks
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Thanks,
I just tested "auto network switch" on and then off. It let me connect to one of my throttled networks, without; "Checking quality of internet connection".
I noticed that it only showed; "network disabled because internet connection is slow" on the congested 2.4 GHz band, not with same router on 5.8 GHz.
Radio interference, location, and router settings, can cause many problems on wireless networks.
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Seems to be two different issues being discussed here without really differentiating the two... the OP states that he is always getting the notification and "can't pull any data over wifi" ... others are saying they are getting the notification without really stating if it is affecting their overall wifi performance at all.
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You're right, I noticed in my research that multiple issues seem to be getting lumped together. I think you're correct in that it's related to the router as well, somehow. I see the notification occasionally on slow hotel connections, but it's intermittent, my problem at home seems permanent. I can use some other wifi networks without problems, though.
That said, I used this phone on my home router for a couple months before ever seeing this problem. I'm guessing it's a combination of the 12/17 OTA update, and particular router models.
Verizon sent me a replacement phone, and it's running the previous build (MJ7 instead of MJE). I'll check things out tonight, and will report back.
Alright, the issue seems resolved on the new phone. This seems to suggest that it is related to the MJE build. So far this phone hasn't asked for an update, but I'm hoping Verizon doesn't break this again for me