I'm just curious about this, I don't know much (anything) about android programming but to my understanding you can't write to system with s-on...
Just out of curiosity I opened up /system in root explorer and it seems like I can edit, delete, or create new files all I want.
Am I mistaken on what s-on limits us to?
starscream86 said:
I'm just curious about this, I don't know much (anything) about android programming but to my understanding you can't write to system with s-on...
Just out of curiosity I opened up /system in root explorer and it seems like I can edit, delete, or create new files all I want.
Am I mistaken on what s-on limits us to?
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Nope. You would be correct, although I might add that you can write in recovery.
You can set the system to rw with root privs. You still cannot write to or delete from it.
But I just deleted the flixter.apk and created a new folder with a file inside it in root explorer..
Duplicate.
starscream86 said:
But I just deleted the flixter.apk and created a new folder with a file inside it in root explorer..
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Reboot and see how how flixter.apk comes back and the file you created disappears.
starscream86 said:
But I just deleted the flixter.apk and created a new folder with a file inside it in root explorer..
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No you didn't. Reboot then look again, it will magically reappear and the folder will magically disappear.
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Ahhh yep ok.. all the changes I made we undone. Just wanted to make sure I didn't stumble across something lol.
Damn that magic....
Ya what's the deal?
I could change anything i wanted in system with es file manager with my Incredible 4G LTE unlocked, rooted, but with S-on. I thought S-off was only necessary for splash screens and radios.
Claynsen said:
I could change anything i wanted in system with es file manager with my Incredible 4G LTE unlocked, rooted, but with S-on. I thought S-off was only necessary for splash screens and radios.
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No you couldn't. The only way you were writing with es file mangler was via s-off or not at all.
I can guarantee you I was able to write to system with s-on on my rezound.
Ndaoud360 said:
I can guarantee you I was able to write to system with s-on on my rezound.
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When rebooted it would go back to normal
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"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."
Dri94 said:
When rebooted it would go back to normal
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"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."
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Thanks. Saved me the trouble of repeating myself.
Dri94 said:
When rebooted it would go back to normal
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"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."
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No, it actually didn't, you could write to it and it would stick after a reboot. I don't know why HTC changed it, but it was different on the rezound, and possibly the thunderbolt, but I didn't have that phone.
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Argumentation said:
No, it actually didn't, you could write to it and it would stick after a reboot. I don't know why HTC changed it, but it was different on the rezound, and possibly the thunderbolt, but I didn't have that phone.
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Ok your right....
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Dri94 said:
Ok your right....
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Boo, you give in too easy. He is so wrong lol.
I guess we shouldn't mention this protection has been in place since the G2
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No, it actually didn't, you could write to it and it would stick after a reboot. I don't know why HTC changed it, but it was different on the rezound, and possibly the thunderbolt, but I didn't have that phone.
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yea, iirc at launch s-on had a bug where it wasnt completely s-on, so you could write to /system. But they then updated it so that it was fully protected.
I had the Thunderbolt, I don't recall ever hearing of S-Off, so maybe that was something that came after. Not sure about the Rezound since this is my only HTC phone since then. But we probably shouldn't make a few pages of "yes I did" & "No you didn't".
tsnstuff said:
I had the Thunderbolt, I don't recall ever hearing of S-Off, so maybe that was something that came after. Not sure about the Rezound since this is my only HTC phone since then. But we probably shouldn't make a few pages of "yes I did" & "No you didn't".
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Thunderbolt had s-off before it even launched.
adrynalyne said:
Thunderbolt had s-off before it even launched.
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Ok then I probably dealt with it during some rooting tutorial or something, I just honestly don't recall ever hearing about it till now. Either way I'm sure someone will figure it out, they always do. . .
Related
http://db.tt/ACxi1jJ
Here's the official launch update. I got it from my stores demo unit. Idk what the change log is, but hopefully this would help us get root...
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Is the phone S-OFF?
How much access do you have to that phone if it is?
Nope S-ON. But I have unrestricted access for the next 30days
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I may be wrong here (I assure you someone will chime in if I am ), but at this point we may need to keep a look out for any S-OFF Phones as these have the best chance of having a SD Card we can take an image from. If I'm correct in my thinking, this alone wont help us as the individual card should be tied to that phone. Unrestricted access to such a phone would allow it to be studied at the very least.
Anyone know of any CID spoofers for mSD cards?
Well we have more than one. I'll check them all out and get back
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Hey I need to install this anyway. Do i rename it to update.zip and flash from bootloader/recovery?
retnuh730 said:
Hey I need to install this anyway. Do i rename it to update.zip and flash from bootloader/recovery?
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If you MUST install it, do it via OTA
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If you MUST install it, do it via OTA
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Right. Only the OTA won't download on mine. I have a 30mbit connection for my wifi and Angry Birds downloads in seconds, but took the OTA 7 hours to get 3.5mb.
All of ours have S-ON RL...
Any idea what rl is?
Also if you can't download it OTA, I would assume renaming it to update.zip would work.
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Right. Only the OTA won't download on mine. I have a 30mbit connection for my wifi and Angry Birds downloads in seconds, but took the OTA 7 hours to get 3.5mb.
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For some reason the Wi-fi on mine is screwy. 50mb connection from comcast and the router is right next tomine, same as my non 3d evo was on and I couldn't download a few games that needed to install data, would sit there and after about 3 minutes would say no internet connection....
It seems to work for apps and such in the market so I don't know. Just trying to provide as much info as I can. Just got it today too. Kind of buggy.
At one point would wake to lock screen and as soon as I pulled ring it went black, several times, not sure what made it work again.
Also, hit top button showed lock screen as only top half of screen. Had to reboot for this to clear....
I also know someone at the sprint store in my location and could ask him to look for a phone of that nature if we need it. Let me know.
i think the build number is old 1.11.651.3 i have 1.13.651.7
What happen if you have a EVO3D with a S-OFF
CuzinBucksBx said:
What happen if you have a EVO3D with a S-OFF
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Then one might be able to find a chink in HTC's armor. For example, running fastboot/adb commands etc and comparing the output to normal phones. The missing functions between s-off and s-on would be significant.
CuzinBucksBx said:
What happen if you have a EVO3D with a S-OFF
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It means your phone is unlocked, you didn't happen to get one did you?
xHausx said:
It means your phone is unlocked, you didn't happen to get one did you?
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lol...the dude smell like do do.. show us the pic......which i doubt highly he has s-off
puertoblack2003 said:
lol...the dude smell like do do.. show us the pic......which i doubt highly he has s-off
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Keep it clean......
Keep it clean......
I installed this 'renaming it to PG86IMG.zip' and now everything is kool except my wifi errors out. Doesn't even try to start...just gives me "error" when I try to start it.
I read in a few places that I need to use Goldcard to use OTA....any ideas if this is true or if I need to do something else??
BTW, I now have Hboot 1.40.00...instead of 1.30.00 so it won't even let me downgrade to factory shipping ROM.
Bump
Anybody have any ideas at all? I've been trying everytng and I'm out of country so I dont have cellular data either so I'm kinda screwed right now.
Please help!
rvashi said:
Anybody have any ideas at all? I've been trying everytng and I'm out of country so I dont have cellular data either so I'm kinda screwed right now.
Please help!
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Sounds like a radio issue. Try getting the radio file, and renaming it to PC36IMG and run it thru your bootloader.
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I have temp rooted my phone, will sprint be able to tell, and how do i unroot it
Reboot.
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that's what i though but i thought i read somewhere that someone said he couldn't return his because of the fact sprint figured out it's rooted or something like that
iliapiano said:
that's what i though but i thought i read somewhere that someone said he couldn't return his because of the fact sprint figured out it's rooted or something like that
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Maybe he didn't reboot
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Rumkeg said:
Reboot.
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Yep, simple as that. I'd also delete any "suspicious" apps like Superuser, etc. but other than that, yes, the phone returns to unroot (and rewrites and changed system files) after a real reboot.
Thank you guys!!!
iliapiano said:
that's what i though but i thought i read somewhere that someone said he couldn't return his because of the fact sprint figured out it's rooted or something like that
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He lied.
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This is a little flashable zip I threw together so people could disable the Hands Free Activation nag at boot(not needed if you are running my DeSensed-View wifi rom). This will work on both GB and HC on any rom
http://dev-host.org/mguq03rnthur/Removehandsfree.zip
Mirror: http://goo.im/devs/graffixnyc/HTC_Evo_View/Removehandsfree.zip
Instructions:
Boot into Recovery
Flash zip
Reboot
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU FLASH THIS AND BRICK YOUR VIEW
Thanks for the share, edited do to language.. remember all age site.
godZson
XDA-MOD
Thanks a bunch!
Can someone help a noob with this? Just want to make sure I get this right and don't pooch something:
I have GB, rooted, Revolutionary s-off.
- Download the file to /mnt/sdcard/
- Boot into Recovery, and choose "install zip from sdcard"
- select the zip and done?
Is that all?
Edit: Just took the plunge and did this. Thx OP
Thanks, will try this tonight. I was so hoping to get rid of that activation nag.
Thank you very much my man, just what I needed.
Mirror added to OP
This works perfectly.
I accidentally found another way around this... Over the last weekend I somehow enabled my 4G radio. When I opened my browser I was redirected to https://deviceselfservice.sprint.com/dsa/4gportal/welcome.actiob.c... (URL shortened) So I did a little googling and found that you can get one day of free service on 3G/4G by using the promo code Free Day (it is case sensitive)... After a reboot, my tablet was able to activate with no issues and since the trial expiration, I haven't been bugged about it since.
So... If you aren't rooted and don't feel like taking the plunge, you can get rid of the nag screen this way.
been trying that free day code, not working for me.
Googled it as well and it is the right code, but cannot get it to work.
Did you type it all as one word? Capital F and D?
Just did the fix and it worked, quick and easy to do.
Thanks
Two words... capital F and D
Maybe it doesn't work for rooted?
A stated, I found this purely by chance... and I am still bone stock honeycomb....
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natefuhr said:
Two words... capital F and D
Maybe it doesn't work for rooted?
A stated, I found this purely by chance... and I am still bone stock honeycomb....
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umm no one else has any problems. You need to be rooted for it to work since it removes a system file. If something is screwed up you did something wrong. There have been hundreds of downloads of this zip and you're the first that's claiming it's not working.
graffixnyc said:
umm no one else has any problems. You need to be rooted for it to work since it removes a system file. If something is screwed up you did something wrong. There have been hundreds of downloads of this zip and you're the first that's claiming it's not working.
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Hes talking about the FreeDay promo code that isn't working, not the patch
jacobbones said:
Hes talking about the FreeDay promo code that isn't working, not the patch
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ohhhh hahahaha my bad. When I read his post I was like "F and D"? I thought he meant F*&keD. hahaha
graffixnyc said:
ohhhh hahahaha my bad. When I read his post I was like "F and D"? I thought he meant F*&keD. hahaha
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Probably would have helped to have quoted my original post eh?... Live and learn...
What does this script remove? If rooted, can this be done manually without running the script.
jwzg said:
What does this script remove? If rooted, can this be done manually without running the script.
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graffixnyc said:
This is a little flashable zip I threw together so people could disable the Hands Free Activation nag at boot
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im going to go on a hunch and say whats in red
its only for people who dont plan on activating their view and only want to use wifi. with out it the tablet will bug you to activate at every boot, if you have activated it on sprint then its not needed
pbanj said:
im going to go on a hunch and say whats in red
its only for people who dont plan on activating their view and only want to use wifi. with out it the tablet will bug you to activate at every boot, if you have activated it on sprint then its not needed
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pbanj, I'm pretty sure jwzg was aware of what the ZIP does, but that he (just like me) is curious to learn what the actual internal changes to the system partition are, and if the same effect can be achieved manually e.g. via "adb shell".
If I had a thanks button on the XDA app, I'd have used it there henningspruth.
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happened across this this morning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
(thanks to jcase on twitter)
value could be a couple different things,to us:
1)downgrade if there was an explolit in older firmware
2)use it to sneek on the signed eng hboot by using that in the third step instead of an s-on ship hboot,then running an RUU with hboot removed to finish recovering the phone
id love to try it,but i dont have a linux machine and my linux skills are basically none
your thots?
whoah! I just read through that whole process and that is some scary stuff right there. But looks like it could be great progress right there!
anothen said:
whoah! I just read through that whole process and that is some scary stuff right there. But looks like it could be great progress right there!
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Yeah, I am looking forward to Revolutionary or someone to make it a one click routine. That would be nice.
Interesting. If I were to guess, I would say that HBOOT unlocks something in order to prep for a flash of a PH98IMG.zip ... when you intentionally brick the phone by messing with the flashable file you've left it in an unlocked state, which you can take advantage of after rebooting by directly copying to the raw partition a bootable image. Obviously some knowledge of the underlying phone hardware is needed in order to find, modify, or build from scratch this bootable image and finding the proper partition into which it needs to be copied -- the directions in the linked thread are for a different phone and different code and probably different partition names would be required.
This may not even work on the Rezound.
And, I should add, the potential to permanently and irrevocably brick your phone is quite high.
It might work with the signed eng hboot. I would try it if I had a backup device. Hell if someone has one that is in terrible condition that is going to do an insurance claim reguardless, I would ask them to try it out. Or have me help them try it.
I'm gonna give this a shot. Worse thing that happens is, I go and buy another Rezound (or something else).
NilsP said:
Yeah, I am looking forward to Revolutionary or someone to make it a one click routine. That would be nice.
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Yeah- I remember how easy it was on the Incredible to root. Then on the Thunderbolt it was a little harder (for those who aren't comfortable with adp commands) and eventually a one-click process came up. Now, it would be great to have something like that on the Rezound and maybe, just maybe, be able to root without this big, ugly UNLOCKED / RE-LOCKED showing in H-Boot!
dlsolo said:
I'm gonna give this a shot. Worse thing that happens is, I go and buy another Rezound (or something else).
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You,sir,are a gentleman and a scholar looking fwd to your results. If it fails,ill throw a few bones your way to help purchas a replacement!
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dlsolo said:
I'm gonna give this a shot. Worse thing that happens is, I go and buy another Rezound (or something else).
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can you hit me up on gtalk before you try? PM me please. I have some suggestions that might help it go better.
dlsolo said:
I'm gonna give this a shot. Worse thing that happens is, I go and buy another Rezound (or something else).
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i'm in... no luck with rom building today so i might as well fry my rezound
lllboredlll said:
i'm in... no luck with rom building today so i might as well fry my rezound
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If you are gonna try it now PM me please if you want to gtalk. I have a couple ideas/suggestions
con247 said:
If you are gonna try it now PM me please if you want to gtalk. I have a couple ideas/suggestions
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awww yeah! here's hoping for some positive results!!
was just going to post this last night. good luck guys!
For anyone that wants to try it
Start with the OTA PH98IMG.zip
Then swap with our shipped PH98IMG.zip
So you should be trying to go from Hboot 2.11 to 2.10
Then when in linux, recover with the signed eng hboot image we have.
After that, I would recommend using fastboot to turn secure flag off (assuming you didn't brick and it worked)
Then flash a homemade PH98IMG.zip with everything except hboot in it.
What should be done first is identify which emmc block hboot is before you start this process.
woah... if we have a "signed" eng HBOOT why cant we just flash it over the one we already have?
Easton999GS said:
woah... if we have a "signed" eng HBOOT why cant we just flash it over the one we already have?
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It's a lower version. So we need a downgrade like this to flash it
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I'll pass everything in my paypal account to anyone who gets this. I think is like 60 or 70 dollars.
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If this works kudos. S-off is like the rosetta stone of htc phones lol
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fernando sor said:
I'll pass everything in my paypal account to anyone who gets this. I think is like 60 or 70 dollars.
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While I can't be as generous as you ...I will certainly donate towards someone who does attempt this.
Great find Scotty!
con247 said:
It's a lower version. So we need a downgrade like this to flash it
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What version number is the ENG HBOOT?
Is there any root method for mac?
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some more dead kittens
Aldo101t said:
some more dead kittens
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Let's not start that here. It got old quick.
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Aldo101t said:
some more dead kittens
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I don't understand
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edited because i'm crazy
Void4ever
Edit: forgive me i had a slight bout with insanity there, for some reason i thought you were talking about a custom bootloader not root. I think root is possible without unlocking the loader but i'd have to go over the dev section again. Again sorry
jonah1234 said:
Is there any root method for mac?
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VirtualBox: For the few instances when you absolutely must have Windows to run a specific program. Much better than Parallels, imho. It runs flawlessly on my Mac, but in all honestly, I rarely have the need to boot Windows.
void4ever said:
edited because i'm crazy
Void4ever
Edit: forgive me i had a slight bout with insanity there, for some reason i thought you were talking about a custom bootloader not root. I think root is possible without unlocking the loader but i'd have to go over the dev section again. Again sorry
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Your insanity totally made me laugh though. Thanks for that.
dbrits said:
VirtualBox: For the few instances when you absolutely must have Windows to run a specific program. Much better than Parallels, imho. It runs flawlessly on my Mac, but in all honestly, I rarely have the need to boot Windows.
Your insanity totally made me laugh though. Thanks for that.
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I use a virtual box called vmware fusion cause I thought there might not be another way but I wanted to see anyway. Thanks
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jonah1234 said:
I use a virtual box called vmware fusion cause I thought there might not be another way but I wanted to see anyway. Thanks
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You're welcome. I had to ditch Parallels 5 when I upgraded to Lion because Nova Software refused to support it on 10.7. I did look into getting Fusion but I opted for Virtual Box since it was open source. Plus, like I said, I rarely have the need to boot Windows, so why pay for something I'll hardly use? I think the only time I've had to boot Windows is when I tried to theme a few apps for my phone. I've yet to find a decent Mac equivalent to zip7.
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Assuming you just need ADB you can download an Ubuntu live CD and run it off that. Completely free and relatively easy.
blazingwolf said:
Let's not start that here. It got old quick.
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Lol i think I've been around long enough that i remember when that started. I loled.
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void4ever said:
edited because i'm crazy
Void4ever
Edit: forgive me i had a slight bout with insanity there, for some reason i thought you were talking about a custom bootloader not root. I think root is possible without unlocking the loader but i'd have to go over the dev section again. Again sorry
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The phone can be rooted without unlocking the bootloader?
enricong said:
The phone can be rooted without unlocking the bootloader?
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It *should* be possible. The bootloader just locks the boot partition for one. Just not the system partition which is where ROM root access is. I'd have to go over it with a fine tooth comb to figure it out, just don't have the resources (or time) yet.
But again, I've been getting literally thrown around a gym and choked for the past week, so my brain isn't at a 100%. Anyone, feel free to chime in if I'm wrong.
I always thought you could get temp root, but it reverts back on a reboot.
*Madmoose* said:
I always thought you could get temp root, but it reverts back on a reboot.
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I thought that as well.
ok so it CAN be rooted but no one knows how at this point.
enricong said:
ok so it CAN be rooted but no one knows how at this point.
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As of now, no one has a method of rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader through HTCDev.com. However, HTC no longer supports unlocking the bootloader on this phone, so everyone is SOL unless you unlocked before they dropped the support. We will have to wait until someone finds an exploit to add root functionality.
cambunch said:
As of now, no one has a method of rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader through HTCDev.com. However, HTC no longer supports unlocking the bootloader on this phone, so everyone is SOL unless you unlocked before they dropped the support. We will have to wait until someone finds an exploit to add root functionality.
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sorry, I meant that it CAN be TEMP rooted, but no one knows how.
but yes, I suppose not knowing how to temp root is equally as bad as not knowing how to perm root
enricong said:
sorry, I meant that it CAN be TEMP rooted, but no one knows how.
but yes, I suppose not knowing how to temp root is equally as bad as not knowing how to perm root
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When do u think we will find out how to root?
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jonah1234 said:
When do u think we will find out how to root?
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Anyone think the temp root method for the Rezound would work on the Dinc? Since they're almost the same phone....
If anyone wants to try the link is here http://www.jonamerica.com/technology/the-htc-rezound-root-guide/
Seriously doubt it would cause any errors or bricking or anything
AshtonTS said:
Anyone think the temp root method for the Rezound would work on the Dinc? Since they're almost the same phone....
If anyone wants to try the link is here http://www.jonamerica.com/technology/the-htc-rezound-root-guide/
Seriously doubt it would cause any errors or bricking or anything
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Zerg won't work on ICS