Hi everyone,
I have a problem with my GT-i9300 with stock JB & stock kernel (I9300XXDLJ4), the battery drains too much fast while screen is off, even after all apps closed or cold start (if screen is on, battery drains abnormally fast as well). BBS shows lots of partial wakelocks named NetworkLocationLocator, and of course I have googled this and found an issue in AOSP issues list, but no solution. (sorry can't post links, issue #37348)
The only thing I can do to prevent early battery death is to go to Settings->Location and uncheck 'use wireless networks', but this is really bad for overall user experience. Things like latitude or google now are disabled.
I am attaching lots of screenshots that might help to understand my problem + BBS report and logs.
Thanks everyone in advance...
Mate, you know that there is an entire thread dedicated to better battery stats......... Search will probably lead to a resolution.
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I am searching for solution for like weeks including thread mentioned. Still no result..
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woyorus said:
Hi everyone,
I have a problem with my GT-i9300 with stock JB & stock kernel (I9300XXDLJ4), the battery drains too much fast while screen is off, even after all apps closed or cold start (if screen is on, battery drains abnormally fast as well). BBS shows lots of partial wakelocks named NetworkLocationLocator, and of course I have googled this and found an issue in AOSP issues list, but no solution. (sorry can't post links, issue #37348)
The only thing I can do to prevent early battery death is to go to Settings->Location and uncheck 'use wireless networks', but this is really bad for overall user experience. Things like latitude or google now are disabled.
I am attaching lots of screenshots that might help to understand my problem + BBS report and logs.
Thanks everyone in advance...
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I have exatly the same issue. Search and search and nothing. already troubleshoot using BBS, the only way to do it is disable it or use an app that disconnects 3g and wifi and connects it every x minutes - like easy battery saver. the only thing I am amazed is that there are not so many reports about it...
will keep you posted since I keep troubleshooting.
nunomax said:
I have exatly the same issue. Search and search and nothing. already troubleshoot using BBS, the only way to do it is disable it or use an app that disconnects 3g and wifi and connects it every x minutes - like easy battery saver. the only thing I am amazed is that there are not so many reports about it...
will keep you posted since I keep troubleshooting.
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It seems like I found the problem, at least on my phone. I have disabled SNS (Social Network Service or so, a weird app shipped with the stock rom by samsung) and also uninstalled the facebook app, looks like I don't have the issue since that. Battery has drained much less overnight today, and I don't see any location-related wakelocks in BBS. I'll try to find what exactly causes the problem
Can you please be more specific about this service? Where did you disable and what was the name of the app?
Thanks
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nunomax said:
Can you please be more specific about this service? Where did you disable and what was the name of the app?
Thanks
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It's under Settings->Application Manager. You have to swipe twice to the right in order to open 'All applications' tab there, and find SNS app, and then click 'Disable' button. The app's icon looks like Facebook logo (little f letter on blue background). Please let me know if it was helpful.. and don't forget to freeze/uninstall official facebook app
Thanks. Meanwhile I've remove and disable a lot of services, mainly from Samsung that I don't use and the battery drain is more stable when the device is on standby.
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Thanks. Meanwhile I've remove and disable a lot of services, mainly from Samsung that I don't use and the battery drain is more stable when the device is on standby.
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Well, have you noticed anything other than the services and battery drain? Maybe an in-/decrease of performance, or something else?
If you look on the Android *stock* battery stats app, you'll see, as soon as the screen is off, for the night, the data connection goes crazy with different signals and network modes. Have you tried putting the phone somewhere else at night, maybe just to see, whether that makes a difference? I'm guessing, you get fluctuations in your network, at night. That has happened to me, quite a lot, as I had my GS II (Telekom DE fixed it, though).
If that isn't the problem, then you've probably installed other third-party apps, that are causing this battery drainage, maybe they're collecting your user data, or something.
Anyways, hope I could help!
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Yes I've been watching it. In resume:
1) if you activate use networks for location the battery drains even if none app request it.
2) there are a bunch of services mainly from Samsung that drains the battery just because they do.
3) if I leave my Wi-Fi off for the night it will drain 5% against 20% if I leave it on
Probably this one is because of weak Wi-Fi at my bedroom. Yes I've selected only when connected but even so the phone doesn't respect it.
4) if you have selected backup this phone to Google it will drain the battery also
5) I can have really good battery life if I disconnect Wi-Fi and data and connect it once in a while
But my point is why should I need to manage all this stuff? Why do I need to spend more time troubleshooting something instead of having fun with a new phone?
I've used juice defender, battery stats and a bunch of other applications just to conclude that android and Samsung are a piece of **** regarding power management.
And yes, Google now is disconnected and also history location.
If I wipe my phone and do not install anything, battery life is regular, as soon I start to install apps it will start to drain without apparently explication.
I have bought an extra battery and will live with it. I this it's just an os feature.
I've tried some custom rom's but all of them have problems, some because something doesn't work, others because developer didn't implement it, so I know if I want one good enough to suit my desires,I should cook it myself but I do not want to do it, so I came back always to official one.
And I do not have enough patience to undervolt or spend my nights tweaking something that should have work from out of the box.
This is my experience with my first android and I think this is why people always have complains about this system. I'm just going to live with it and accept the fact that this os have lots of defects that should not exist.
One thing is true: it is very frustrating from an user experience point off view.
Just my 2 cents
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I completely agree with you here. I don't know what exactly causes the problem, bugs with Samsung's software or bugs in Android itself - I don't care. The user experience is awful with this device.
I really considering getting an iPhone. iOS is built the way when regardless of amount apps installed and their quality the battery life is stable and decent. No app, maybe except VoIP, could drain battery if it's in the background or the screen is off. For me personally, all this Android's 'customizability' causes only decline in UX and battery life.
Ridiculously, there are lots of poor quality apps for Android that behave extremely bad, for example The Tribez game. It's a game, and I am expecting battery drain only when I'm playing (isn't it logical?), however, I do get drain caused by this app even if it's closed! That's ridiculous. I just bought an iPad version and I have absolutely no problems with it, moreover, it is running much faster on my dualcore tablet than on my cutting edge quad core phone. Of course, this is just an awful job porting the game from iOS to Android, but I'm sure, mostly this is problem with Android itself. This is the _mobile_ OS, and it must not allow any app behave like this (like iOS does, it kills badass processes almost instantaneously). I'm sorry Android fanboys, but your lovely OS is a poor quality product.
I've already said too much, but again, I don't want to think if my WiFi or anything else is turned off, I want to use my handset. I think you get my point.
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This thread that I've revamped from my Evo 4G days, hoping to share some of the love with newer users. Over the time I've been on android, I've learned a few simple things that can greatly assist in the battery life of our wonderful smartphones.
If you read the thread and like the tips, have a new one to suggest, or have a revision, please post it.
On a similar note, moderators, thanks for the sticky!
General Lithium Ion Battery Information
^^This link includes stuff about charging, including trickle charging aka SBC (Why NOT to use it, or at your own peril)
My tips for good battery life:
Tips for Non-Rooted users
1. Turn off all radios when not in use.
(gps, Bluetooth, wifi, data, 4g) Use a widget like the default HTC power widget, Switchpro, or a similar app from the market. The 3D's updated Sense 3.0 allows users to access these radios and other settings from the notification pulldown menu, , under the "Quick Settings" tab. The radios of the phone draw power if on even if the user isn't actually utilizing the radio's functions. A radio searching for signal (if you are in a low-signal area) drains more than a radio with good signal, so again, turn 'em off when you aren't using 'em.
To manually turn off radios without a toggle, go to menu>settings>wireless & networks.
Wifi uses less battery than 3G, so use wifi when you can.
2. Juice Defender is one of my favorite apps. Basically it controls your data for you to maximize life.
More explanations are on their page, search it on the market for free, or upgrade for more features.
Here are my settings for it: Click me
Note that for me at least, juice defender likes to deny apps data privileges whether you allow them or not, so screen on = data on works best for me.
3. I love live wallpapers, and I’ve always been a fan of pixel zombies, but they are really only good for showing off due to their battery drain.
4. Go to menu<settings<wireless & networks<mobile networks<disable always on mobile data.
Product F(RED) said:
To clarify, "Always On Mobile Data", when turned off, lets the 3G modem go to sleep after the screen has been off for 5 minutes. It doesn't interfere with anything like email or any other application that requires an internet connection at that moment because it turns on on-demand rather than being on all the time and wasting battery.
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5. Set your screen timeout to something that fits you.
This will prevent your phone from staying on when you don’t manually turn off the screen. Also with this, manually turn off your screen when you’re done with your phone.
Menu>Settings>Display>Screen Timeout
I use 30 seconds.
6. Task killers used to be the shiz, but no longer.
Here is the ultimate, in depth, graphically assisted, explanation by the famous Fresh ROM's chef, Flipz. Shortly, in light of recent testing, really don’t do anything but force apps that the android OS needed to be open, and thus didn’t close, to re-open. So try not using them, unless for stuff like trying to figure out why your phone isn’t sleeping with system panel. You really won’t notice a performance difference, and the adverse effects you aren’t seeing will stop
+=+ A good alternative is the application SystemPanel Pro. It has a free version, but I highly reccomend purchasing the paid app. It basically monitors everything going on with your phone's usage both in real time an in terms of usage history. If your battery is draiging fast, it tells you what app was doing it, how much it was doing it, and allows you to stop it.
7. I'm sure you have all heard around that your phone isn't "sleeping".
This is referring to the phone's "awake" time, hence the name. When you go to Menu>Settings>About Phone>Battery, you can compare the two numbers, "up time" vs. "awake time." Generally, up time refers to the amount of time since the last reboot. The "awake time" is how long the screen has been active. The problem is, a lot of the time, due to the endless possibilities of inconsistencies between apps/ROMs/kernels/phones, the phone will not go to "sleep", drawing power proportionate to the screen being in use when it reality the phone is sitting idle.
If you compare these numbers, and they are the same, or if you note the difference, turn off the screen for a minute, then re-check and they are the same, then your phone is not sleeping.
One solution is to reboot.
Usually, SystemPanel will show an app that has gone "rouge" and is keeping your phone awake.
-This is done by hitting menu>settings>monitoring enabled. Then after some time has passed, ht menu>monitoring>history>change tab to top apps, and see if anything is above, say, 2-4%.
Uninstall applications/reinstalling them slowly, checking after every install to see what is causing it is one tedious but surefire solution.
Lastly,
Follow these steps that I have discovered almost always work.
1. Reboot phone.
2. Instantly upon reboot, as soon as you gain control, open up some type of monitor/taskkiller
3. "kill all" tasks on startup; about 5 times in quick succession should do the trick.
4. Turn off the screen and leave it for about five minutes.
5. Check the up time v. awake time and see if they are the same.
6. If they are, repeat steps 1-5. If they are different, you are good.
8. Our good friend sn0b0ard noticed that the 3D's battery contacts *could* be problematic.
Here's a link to his thread, but basically he explains how the leads to the battery can be kind of loose, which potentially can cause random reboots (if the contacts separate) and/or slow charging. The fix is simple: slide some paper or a piece of a rubber band between the battery and the wall opposite the leads. Toss him a thanks if it helps you out
9. Apps and Combinations to watch out for!
-Facebook for HTC Sense- Tries to sync live feed all the time, HIGHLY recommend unchecking this box, as it creates a massive draw on data
-Skype- This app reportedly (I've seen it myself) likes to sync random data and open up the network for fun. Sign out of app when not in use to fix
Root Tips LIVE
Tips for Rooted users:
1. Try out custom kernels.
By going to the EVO 3D Android Development section of the forums, you can see all of the different kernels being developed. These allow for all kinds of modifications like underclocking the CPU and undervolting, both of which save battery. To see how to use them, read the FAQ's in each thread's OPs.
Here is a great guide to custom kernel's by mroneeyedboh.
2. Use SetCPU in compliance with whatever your custom kernel allows.
This site will explain the basics of SetCPU: http://www.setcpu.com/
-Profiles from SetCPU should usually involve these for battery life optimization:
-Screen off at the minimum clock speed for both, with the max raised on level if sluggishness is apparent
-A temperature greater than “X”
-General power related profiles that lower cpu speed at lower battery levels
-Here are my SetCPU profiles: 1 , 2 , 3
-My profiles change a lot as time goes by, because different kernel creators recommend different settings. I suggest reading up on whatever kernel you are using to gather settings.
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NOTES:
*Some apps or processes begin to run at startup and keep the phone awake. These apps are not detected by things like spare parts or system panel, unless sometimes represented in the "system" process, in which case its usage will be unusually high.
This shouldn't take more than three repeats, and if it does, you need to factory reset, and slowly add apps back to see what's causing the problem.
___--- When it comes to actually "calibrating" one's battery, there are a couple of methods floating around. The method I first learned is to charge the phone all the way, boot into recovery immediately, and "wipe battery stats". Then reboot quickly, and run your phone all the way to death without charging it, then charge it all the way without interrupting it, and you should be good to go. Do this when changing ROMs/kernels for best results.
----When it comes to people claiming 20 plus hours of moderate/heavy use out of their current setup or other ridiculous absurdities, consider my position: No matter what you do, the Evo battery is the Evo battery. You can tweak it and customize it with kernels, ROMs, and settings, but none of that will turn it into a car battery. The main problem (besides a false sense of pride) that leads to these reports is the misunderstanding of what the usage levels are, so here’s my best summary:
* *Light usage – Phone screen actually on for maybe 0-2 hours. Things like a few texts, some emails, 20 minutes web browsing, etc.
* *Moderate usage – You watched a few youtube videos or similar apps, sustained web browsing, hundreds of texts, some games. Hours range from about 2-5 of screen on
* *Heavy usage – LOTS of video watching and games, 3D pics or video, or some high def gaming/movie watching for at least an hour to an hour and a half in total, with lots of emails and texts, browsing, and other app shenanigans. 5+ hours
*I’m sure everyone doesn’t agree with all these numbers, but this is most likely a good average of what powerusers think. All specific hourage may vary due to differences in phones, batteries, ROMs, and kernels… Which also means that most battery comparisons are pointless; it’s only what you can improve on that counts!
I’ll update this whenever I see good stuff, people remind me, or I remember/come across things I do.
Hope it helps everybody!
Hit the "THANKS" button if I help you!
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Nice list of thing you got here. I haven't had to many issues with my battery life yet but I will try these and see if I can get it past the 16 hours.
good stuff here i use JD but i notice my phones not sleeping workin on that now
I too am having wakelock . Updated prl but it remained the same don't know what else to do
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eviltwin24 said:
I too am having wakelock . Updated prl but it remained the same don't know what else to do
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You could try the stuff about wakelocks in the OP
Biofall said:
You could try the stuff about wakelocks in the OP
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Yea sure did but its still not sleeping. Phone gets really hot also when off
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Yea sure did but its still not sleeping. Phone gets really hot also when off
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How are you charging it? USB to computer charging leads to high wake times. Any rouge apps?
Getting hot is normal this early on.
No I'm charging with the HTC charger. Let me try updating the phone maybe that will fix it.
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eviltwin24 said:
No I'm charging with the HTC charger. Let me try updating the phone maybe that will fix it.
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You need to update, I know everyone is scared about not getting root, but without the update you will have battery issues. Keep fighting on HTC facebook page, we will get the unlock soon enough
So basically the tip to good battery life is to essentially turn your smartphone into a dumbphone and pretty much cripple it?!
bigupurself7 said:
You need to update, I know everyone is scared about not getting root, but without the update you will have battery issues. Keep fighting on HTC facebook page, we will get the unlock soon enough
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Yea I updated and phone is sleeping now. I can live without root for a couple.weeks and i have a spear evo to keep my flashing addiction satisfied till this gets root
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Great tips. I always do.most of them except Juice Defender. Other than that thanks for an informative thread.
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freeza said:
So basically the tip to good battery life is to essentially turn your smartphone into a dumbphone and pretty much cripple it?!
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The tips are all optional. If you can't live without live wallpapers, then by all means, use them. However, many users don't know about radios, etc. Very few people need bluetooth, 4G, and wifi all at the same time while the screen is off. I believe that part of having a smartphone is the luxury of being able to make informed decisions about the functions of your device to find your own individual perfect balance between performance and battery life.
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I'd like to bump this thread. For future reference, if you see the thread and liked the tips, have a new one to suggest, or had a revision, please post it. This will ensure that the thread remains visible for those who need it, as I'm sure the moderators will not sticky it.
On a similar note, moderators, please sticky this!
I'm seeking more clarification about the mobile data always on.
So if I turn that feature off, and after five minutes the radio to into sleep mode, and someone sends me an email (gmail push), then I will receive that email?
parousia15 said:
I'm seeking more clarification about the mobile data always on.
So if I turn that feature off, and after five minutes the radio to into sleep mode, and someone sends me an email (gmail push), then I will receive that email?
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yes, apparently so
freeza said:
So basically the tip to good battery life is to essentially turn your smartphone into a dumbphone and pretty much cripple it?!
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Not necessarily. You can still make a call or two, maybe write a few smses but basicly don't use your phone and it will have amazing battery life.
I don't have 3d just yet but I'm guessing with that big of a battery (1730mAh) it should easily go through at least 10-15h with moderate to heavy usage.
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Not necessarily. You can still make a call or two, maybe write a few smses but basicly don't use your phone and it will have amazing battery life.
I don't have 3d just yet but I'm guessing with that big of a battery (1730mAh) it should easily go through at least 10-15h with moderate to heavy usage.
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Then you would guess wrong. It's not that great without lots of tinkering.
How do I use system panel to detect "rogue" apps? I've looked but can't seem to find it
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How do I use system panel to detect "rogue" apps? I've looked but can't seem to find it
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I'll update the OP. Turn on monitoring. This is done by hitting menu>settings>monitoring enabled. Then after some time has passed, ht menu>monitoring>history>change tab to top apps, and see if anything is above, say, 2-4%.
Hi all,
I love my DNA (stock) and I haven't had any issues until the past couple of weeks, when I noticed that my phone started draining battery much more quickly than normal without me changing my usage habits. I'm consistently draining about 10% per hour even when I just pull it out of my pocket every hour or so to check notifications. I've also noticed sluggish behavior as well (lag when unlocking especially).
I got the Wakelock Detector app to see what was causing me issues, but I'm pretty new to it--I'm not sure what is normal and what is a problem. I've disabled a lot of my location services as a result, but that doesn't seem to have solved anything as of yet, which is why I'm posting.
I'm attaching a few screenshots from WLD so you can see what I've got going on. Android System looks awful, but I don't want to disable backup (I like having my app choices and such saved, and don't want to lose them). What should I really chase after to get this draining issue solved?
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There's a known issue with Google services causing drain, its been mentioned in a few places around here, it started with an update a little while ago. You can try removing updates if it let's you, may help, or just have to wait out an update to correct it. I think for now disabling all of the location stuff helps.
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you could also try the newly released Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru.
If you can I would change kernels. crpalmer's kernel fixed my wakelock issues. I had a maps issue related to location services and disabled maps in Titanium Backup and then later I had wakelock issues that I couldn't pin down but switching to crpalmer's kernel fixed it for me.
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you could also try the newly released Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru.
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This app looks great! I'll certainly give it a try. I used JuiceDefender on my old Droid Charge and it helped (back in 2011), but I don't think the app is maintained any more.
I'll let you know if it helps.
I have a theory, which may be wrong, is that apps set up all sorts of events that the system tracks and acts upon. As a result, when tracking CPU usage and wake locks, it is often hard to find the culprit behind most of the activity because it registers under system processes rather than directly from the offending app.
So the solution may be to do a factory reset (which is painful) or just freeze some apps to see what difference it makes.
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petrivka said:
This app looks great! I'll certainly give it a try. I used JuiceDefender on my old Droid Charge and it helped (back in 2011), but I don't think the app is maintained any more.
I'll let you know if it helps.
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That itself causes wakelocks and is 90% placebo effect.
Having same issue and it is definitely Google. I use Google Maps a lot so disabling location renders it useless. Bad deal since its killing my battery.
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That itself causes wakelocks and is 90% placebo effect.
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If so, this is the best placebo effect ever. Once BatteryGuru trained for 2 days, my battery life has improved dramatically, back to where it used to be (if not better). My phone now can enter deep sleep for longer than 2 minutes over a 10 hour period.
I did see that BatteryGuru was the cause of additional wakelocks, but my real cause for concern was the lack of deep sleep.
I can now make it through a 16 hour day without getting range anxiety.
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That itself causes wakelocks
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Ok... Just about every app causes wakelokcs, big whoop.
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90% placebo effect.
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Yep, getting an extra couple of hours of battery life due to that app is definitely placebo.
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It isn't mentioned in this thread and is a really important recent development. The new play store solves the excessive drains that google play services was having. I've seen mentioned in a few posts above some issues that will be solved by installing the new play store.
The problem I had with battery guru was that it required turning location services on. Since I normally don't run location services unless I need them, having to enable them for the battery savings app to run kind of negates the purpose of the app. It would be nice to hack it up and delete the business that requires location services.
For the poster above who wasn't getting deep sleep, I would try removing battery guru, solve the deep sleep problem and then reinstall battery guru, it might make your battery life even mo betta.
Intro
Hello I'm a very old lurker in this forum yet a new member and this is my first post so please don't kill me if I failed to follow the rules or if my English sucks. I will try to organize this thread and make it clear and easy to understand and read, while providing as much information as I can.
The Problem
So my i9100 has been having extreme battery drain lately, about 2% per 3 minutes. I refrain from using it throughout the day to help my battery hold until night. When I do so, it is usually about 40% by the time I go to sleep with having BARELY used the phone. Probably just now and then to answer a Whatsapp message or to check the time. I've long ago uninstalled all games since I can't even think of playing games with this horrible battery status.
How it started
The last thing I can remember before starting to have this problem is about a year(?) ago when I was on Jellybam. I had good battery, and then a build with an excellent battery came out and it worked perfectly. I can't remember which version it was, but a little after that, I updated Jellybam and noticed SUPER battery drain. I waited a little for the next updates but it wasn't fixed, so I changed a ROM. I noticed that it wasn't helping. So I tried the following for a couple of months now:
Attempts To Solve The Problem
I have tried the following:
Using lowest screen brightness
Disabling obvious stuff like GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, 3G
Closing or even NOT installing any known battery consuming apps
NOT using task killers
USING task killers
Underclocking
Removing widgets. Using least icons possible on launcher
Using many different launchers
Changing ROMs, kernels and both
Reverting back to stock
Buying a new battery (extended and not original)
Trying a new original battery from a friend who has i9100
Flashing modems and RILs, including GetRIL. In fact, I've had better battery with worse signal (but not always). I think it was with XXLPH or XXLPW.
Using battery savers like JuiceDefender which basically do everything I've already tried. What's a smartphone without internet
Using BetterBatteryStats and Gsam Battery Monitor Pro. Did not notice anything special (but I am not pro enough to understand everything on BBS, though I googled some of the things and haven't noticed something unusual). Maybe some pro can help me with it.
Assumptions / Notes
A couple of versions ago, I have used Omega ROM version 4.2.1 which suddenly fixed(?!) my battery. I can't remember which build it was, but the new one doesn't fix the battery drain. I assume it could be due to the radio update to XXMS2
I have a feeling that the drain is related to the modem (aka baseband), because I've had some more battery-friendly modems and some less
I have tried many modems that are supposed to work perfectly (and really gave me good connection speed and signal), but they did not fix the battery drain. Even on stock rom
My provider is Golan Telecom, which is supposed to work good with Cellcom modems, but it didn't. At least not battery-wise
Last resort can be taking it to a lab, but it's hard for me to stay without my phone, and I think people here are more skilled than the noobs in the lab.
Can the problem be hardware-related but not battery-related? May it be caused by the huge amount of times I've flashed ROMs and kernels?
Had my phone for around 2 years
Never bricked my phone
Sorry for being a burden to this forum with this first post of mine, but thanks a TON of anyone who can shed some light on this problem for me!
*I have attached one log of BBS
2h screen on , 3h wifi running and 50% how you did that?
I don't think that is a big battery usage
Which battery do you have?
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2h screen on , 3h wifi running and 50% how you did that?
I don't think that is a big battery usage
Which battery do you have?
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Don't know, the battery is just dying so fast...
I got the original one that comes with the i9100
It doesn't look horrendous to me. Things to do though :
1. Grant BBS root rights. Need it to see network and alarms.
2. Did you play music at all? If not, you need to diagnose apps which are putting out sound. Viber is a common culprit.
3. Deleted_wakelocks comes when you turn wifi off. As it's so large, something is killing you when you're on wifi. My guess would be wlan_rx_wakelock. Basically you need to turn off wifi when you're not actively using it to avoid the drain from it. "Better wifi on/off" may be an app which helps you out there, it'll automate the turning of wifi on and off with your screen.
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It doesn't look horrendous to me. Things to do though :
1. Grant BBS root rights. Need it to see network and alarms.
2. Did you play music at all? If not, you need to diagnose apps which are putting out sound. Viber is a common culprit.
3. Deleted_wakelocks comes when you turn wifi off. As it's so large, something is killing you when you're on wifi. My guess would be wlan_rx_wakelock. Basically you need to turn off wifi when you're not actively using it to avoid the drain from it. "Better wifi on/off" may be an app which helps you out there, it'll automate the turning of wifi on and off with your screen.
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Thanks for your reply.
1. I have given it root rights, and will soon upload an updated log
2. I haven't played music at that time, not that I remember, but even with different players or not players at all, and without sound on keypress, the same drain is occuring. Also, I have long ago stopped using Viber as it eats the battery even more. My battery can't afford to have Viber :/
3. The drain seems to continue with or without wifi. I usually leave my wifi on when I'm at home, like now, but I have also tried, many times, to leave 3G without wifi and see if the battery improves. It didn't, unfortunately.
The G2 has a fantastic battery already, why not make it even better?
I like to see how far I can push this phone's battery. In no way does that mean that you need too as well, but for those of you that do want a few more hours or another day, I'm happy to share what I've learned.
After I've spent time learning the quirks of this phone, and most of its respective ROMs, I've come up with quite a few tricks for improving battery life, some specific to this phone, some just in android general. I now get average 3-4 days battery life, when I use the phone quite often during the day all day long.
It is your personal preference on how much of android's background services that you use compared to apps. This is only suggestions for the users that want to improve battery life.
Heres some of the simplest questions you can ask yourself when you go through the settings center:
Do I really need this feature enabled? Do I use it often? Even if I do occasionaly use it, is it that much of a pain to just turn on when I need it?
Do I really need GPS on 24/7? How often do I really use GPS?
How many apps do I need running in the background?
Do I need to keep autobright on, or keep the screen super bright?
That being said, here are some of the simple things that Ive done.
I keep everything off unless I use it every day.
I keep GPS off 24/7, I never use it.
Out of habit, I always close all apps.
I keep autobright off and keep the screen on 14 brightness. Unless Im right outside in the sun its easy to see, and if I am I can just turn it up with the quick setting.
Some of the more advanced stuff I do, that completely varies on your ROM:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
Currently Im using CleanROM, I switch between it and Cyanogen about once a week, just cant make up my mind on stability v. features, but on CleanROM, some of the stuff I have currently froze
Nearly anything involving Verizon, the carrier APKs are massive bloatware.
I disabled a lot of google services, some people may rely on these, personally I dont, the biggest two google apps I use are chrome and Gmail.
If your on a stock based ROM, disable the LG services you dont use. Textlink wastes a huge amount of power, as does QSlide.
(This applies alot more to carrier based roms than it does Cyanogen/AOSP, but even they do have a few unneccesary servcices.) Be careful when you are touching system services, if you dont know what one does, a google on its function is helpful.
Use a different launcher. Excluding the stock google launcher, most factory launchers are very inefficient, LG Home is no exception. Personally, I use SmartLauncher, a very light and very nice looking launcher with a fantastic layout. Nova I know is very light on resources aswell.
The more widgets you have cluttering your screen, the more power they will waste.
I can personally confirm myself that Kitkat based roms have incredible battery life after they settle in for a few days, the kernel level improvements brought with KitKat are very noticable. Currently Gummy Rom and three CM11 builds exist for KitKat, why not give them a try?
If you have unusually high battery usage, check your wakelocks, and see what exactly is using all the power, and you can disable/turn it off and remove that battery drain.
On a final note, comeon guys turn your phones off at night. I have yet to hear a good reason to leave it running over night, all it does is waste power and most commonly let the notification light run for 8 hours. If you use your phone as a alarm, you could turn on airplain mode overnight.
These are just some of the things that I do, if you have any more suggestions, feel free to post them or message me, I'll be glad to add them to the list.
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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shahkam said:
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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polaric said:
What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
G1_enthusiast said:
U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
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I only buy a new phone when Verizon let's me, I just enjoy seeing how far I can push each phone's battery. Some people go crazy on theming, I go crazy on battery life. A few people wondered what I did, so I just made this.
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I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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quachhanthanh said:
I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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polaric said:
I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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So u should make a thread to bring out list junk apps of android. That is more helpful.
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polaric said:
I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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GPS is not pointless, it uses for Facebook, navigation, weather update, yelp and a lot of apps.. what you deem is pointless is different than everyone...your reason to own a smartphone is seriously wrong in so many ways...just saying man but its your money.
Honestly people should just enjoy the phone rather than trying to make it last longer. If your phone can make it through the day then consider that a successful phone.
I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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Great write up. Thanks for sharing ??
I have just clocked it to 1,5 and frezeed a few LG stuff. I'm always from 5 hour screentime and up. If I just reading a weekend between 8 and 9 [one time ]
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How do u freez the apps?
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Instead of turning it OFF for the night, turn ON Aeroplane mode. That consumes less energy, than a turn off and on. This also solves the alarm problem, and no email or whatsoever shall wake you up at while you sleep
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3thman said:
How do u freez the apps?
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titanium back up
Thanks for the tips!
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Thanks. I found this thread very useful
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I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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It completely depends on how often said application is opened, and what it does while idle. I know out of hand while I'm at work I see several people with 3-4 games left open on their phone, this is more what I was reffering too.
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polaric said:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
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Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
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jesssiii said:
Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
LG G2 VS980 (VZW)
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I wrote this late last night, so I didnt have time to look through the list of everything I froze, but I'll add it to the OP in the next few minutes since I have a few free moments.
Hey there xda family!! Today I am in search of a ROM for the i717 note that has decent battery life I have flashed just about every ROM I can find for this phone and I keep getting about the same battery life I go threw about 10 to 18% every half an hour to an hour and that to me seems really odd so I've tried replacing the battery and nothing keep getting the same thing so if anyone out there knows of a ROM where I can get decent battery life please please please please share!!!!!!!! Thanks
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I'm afraid your question is opinion based and no one can really give you an answer your looking for but you.
Some things to consider are newer versions of Android have cool new stuff. Unfortunately cool new stuff runs in the background and wakes the device more often. So an older version of Android may have less stuff running in the background. But if you have root access you can freeze, or remove resource hogs. Some devs make vanilla roms. But then you may be missing the feature you want. How many apps or tasks running depends on you. You can install wake detector and monitor what's waking your device and killing your battery. In my experience Google now, Google search, and apps like Facebook just suck power so I remove them. Also using dark or black themes can greatly help improve battery life. The screen on my phone with a solid white picture can be on for 4 hours. Where it can stay on for 8 hours displaying a black picture. That's a HUGE difference! Probably because our screen is huge. Also cell signal matters. A slow weak signal drains power faster. Being on Wi-Fi helps.
There's just Soooo many factors to consider that are user based. I'm sorry I can't say "this rom is the best", but hopefully I gave you some tips how to choose what works best for you.
440bro said:
I'm afraid your question is opinion based and no one can really give you an answer your looking for but you.
Some things to consider are newer versions of Android have cool new stuff. Unfortunately cool new stuff runs in the background and wakes the device more often. So an older version of Android may have less stuff running in the background. But if you have root access you can freeze, or remove resource hogs. Some devs make vanilla roms. But then you may be missing the feature you want. How many apps or tasks running depends on you. You can install wake detector and monitor what's waking your device and killing your battery. In my experience Google now, Google search, and apps like Facebook just suck power so I remove them. Also using dark or black themes can greatly help improve battery life. The screen on my phone with a solid white picture can be on for 4 hours. Where it can stay on for 8 hours displaying a black picture. That's a HUGE difference! Probably because our screen is huge. Also cell signal matters. A slow weak signal drains power faster. Being on Wi-Fi helps.
There's just Soooo many factors to consider that are user based. I'm sorry I can't say "this rom is the best", but hopefully I gave you some tips how to choose what works best for you.
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Thank you very much and ya I am not new at android development I've been doing it sense the dawn of cyanogenmod Lol it just confuses the hell out of me cause I have never had a phone with a custom ROM that has had such poor battery life I mean its worse than when cm7 came out for the captivate Lol and that's saying something haha but I really do appreciate the response thank you again
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On every device I have I install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetectorwake lock detector, and https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenifygreenify. They both are must have apps. Wake lock will let you know what's waking your phone and how many times. Greenify will let you hibernate it.