Long time user of the TP. Decided to move to Android this past weekend. Chose CM9 over 10 as I will use for work as a LT (kinda) replacement. I flashed an earlier CM9 (April? Maybe). Yesterday I installed GOO manager and TWRP2. GOO found the 11/11 nightly and I decided to go with it. Beautiful. Everything that is expected to work, works. Camera doesn't; USB connectivity doesn't (charging does); a few minor apps more because of tablet orientation. Otherwise, smooth sailing.
As has been reported the battery life stinks on ice. TouchStone and cable work great, but would like to see the drain slowed. But as anyone owning a Pre/PrePlus will tell you ............. always stay close to a charger
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Long time user of the TP. Decided to move to Android this past weekend. Chose CM9 over 10 as I will use for work as a LT (kinda) replacement. I flashed an earlier CM9 (April? Maybe). Yesterday I installed GOO manager and TWRP2. GOO found the 11/11 nightly and I decided to go with it. Beautiful. Everything that is expected to work, works. Camera doesn't; USB connectivity doesn't (charging does); a few minor apps more because of tablet orientation. Otherwise, smooth sailing.
As has been reported the battery life stinks on ice. TouchStone and cable work great, but would like to see the drain slowed. But as anyone owning a Pre/PrePlus will tell you ............. always stay close to a charger
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I left the pre scene a few years back but always loved the potential of webos. Got a HPTP for that exact reason, only to realize that web-os is at EOL and hardly any apps for it.
Flashed my HPTP to CM and its the best thing ever. I too would love to see the best route to get good battery life. Thanks for sharing your post
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Long time user of the TP. Decided to move to Android this past weekend. Chose CM9 over 10 as I will use for work as a LT (kinda) replacement. I flashed an earlier CM9 (April? Maybe). Yesterday I installed GOO manager and TWRP2. GOO found the 11/11 nightly and I decided to go with it. Beautiful. Everything that is expected to work, works. Camera doesn't; USB connectivity doesn't (charging does); a few minor apps more because of tablet orientation. Otherwise, smooth sailing.
As has been reported the battery life stinks on ice. TouchStone and cable work great, but would like to see the drain slowed. But as anyone owning a Pre/PrePlus will tell you ............. always stay close to a charger
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This will let TP be recognized on the PC
"If you want to transfer files back and forth from the CM9 touchpad you might have difficulty figuring out how exactly to do it.Here's how you pull it off:
First, tap on your app drawer in the top right of the screen (the little checkerboard). Now, select the "settings" icon.
Now tap on storage on the left-hand pane.
Finally, the tricky part - tap on the 3 squares at the VERY top right of your screen. It will bring down a little drop-down menu for USB computer connection. Tap it and put a checkmark in the "Media Device MTP" box.
Now you can plug your touchpad into the computer at will and transfer files back and forth from it. Easy as pie, I'm not sure why this isn't activated by default, but it's a simple fix if you know what to do."
Sorry I copied this from XDA a couple of weeks ago, so I can not take credit for this but it works great
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This will let TP be recognized on the PC
"If you want to transfer files back and forth from the CM9 touchpad you might have difficulty figuring out how exactly to do it.Here's how you pull it off:
First, tap on your app drawer in the top right of the screen (the little checkerboard). Now, select the "settings" icon.
Now tap on storage on the left-hand pane.
Finally, the tricky part - tap on the 3 squares at the VERY top right of your screen. It will bring down a little drop-down menu for USB computer connection. Tap it and put a checkmark in the "Media Device MTP" box.
Now you can plug your touchpad into the computer at will and transfer files back and forth from it. Easy as pie, I'm not sure why this isn't activated by default, but it's a simple fix if you know what to do."
Sorry I copied this from XDA a couple of weeks ago, so I can not take credit for this but it works great
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Thanks a ton. Worked like a charm and things keep getting better a better with Android on the TP. When I plugged in after changing the setting as you suggested, I interestingly received three notifications in the dialogue box:
USB Connection device Ready to use
cm_tenderloin Ready to use
cm_tenderloin No driver found
The TP is recognized and I can perform file operations back and forth. Interesting about the two cm messages, though.
Thanks, again!
When CM7 was first released for the Touchpad I remember installing it and I wasn't too big of a fan, I found myself still going to WebOS, which wasn't bad with a few patches and tweaks. CM9 rolled along and it was rough as well- I didn't understand what wiping cache/dalvik or factory resets meant so the repeated flashing every release resulted in a bloated and awful experience.
I think sometime in July the Touchpad just got really good with the nightlies. So good that I sold the iPad3 I had bought to fill the tablet void. Not sure if the weeklies have brought any significant changes recently, but I definitely recommend -SGA-'s custom ROMs.
I started with Fat 'n Creamy (which now incorporates the camera work) but I'm a big fan of the AOKP&CM9 Remix ROMs, AOKP brings some very nice customization options!
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I left the pre scene a few years back but always loved the potential of webos. Got a HPTP for that exact reason, only to realize that web-os is at EOL and hardly any apps for it.
Flashed my HPTP to CM and its the best thing ever. I too would love to see the best route to get good battery life. Thanks for sharing your post
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Yes, I still like the simple sophistication of WebOS. Like the cards, liked the layout. And if the Open Source community can work their magic, who knows, there may be a winner there yet. PALM and HP did sooooo many things to kill WebOS and alienate developers and handset manufacturers that WebOS will need great upgrades to get some interested again. Till then, I'm lov'n Android.
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When CM7 was first released for the Touchpad I remember installing it and I wasn't too big of a fan, I found myself still going to WebOS, which wasn't bad with a few patches and tweaks. CM9 rolled along and it was rough as well- I didn't understand what wiping cache/dalvik or factory resets meant so the repeated flashing every release resulted in a bloated and awful experience.
I think sometime in July the Touchpad just got really good with the nightlies. So good that I sold the iPad3 I had bought to fill the tablet void. Not sure if the weeklies have brought any significant changes recently, but I definitely recommend -SGA-'s custom ROMs.
I started with Fat 'n Creamy (which now incorporates the camera work) but I'm a big fan of the AOKP&CM9 Remix ROMs, AOKP brings some very nice customization options!
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I just bought my first Android device ........ a Razr Maxx HD. That gave me the bug to move to the CM universe with the TP. So much more available and for both handsets and tablets. You're way a head of me. I've heard of AOKP, but not SGA. Are they both flashed using GOO/TWRP?
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I just bought my first Android device ........ a Razr Maxx HD. That gave me the bug to move to the CM universe with the TP. So much more available and for both handsets and tablets. You're way a head of me. I've heard of AOKP, but not SGA. Are they both flashed using GOO/TWRP?
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Yes open Goo manager and select compatible ROMs you will find SGA listed there with his latest ROMs and fixes.For more information check out his threads in the development section.
New CM9 should be uploaded tomorrow...
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Hey guys so i just got a shipment notification so I'll be picking up my touchpad tonight.
Where should i start?
Install Android? I'm very comfortable with Android.
install another operating system?
Good apps? Games?
Looking for a good browser.
Basically any recommendations for a touchpad noob I'd appreciate.
Thanks a lot
Congrats!
Honestly, I would try out WebOS for a while. I was surprised how much I liked it. I haven't bothered to install Android (this coming from an Android phone and Nook Color with CM7). For starters, do a system update to get the latest WebOS version. Then, make sure everything works (ie. don't go and void your warranty right away ). There are some free apps you may as well peruse and download in the HP App Catalog.
It's not really necessary anymore since the latest OS update brought a lot of performance improvements, but you may want to check out the Preware patches once you're satisfied with the hardware.
I don't think there are too many other OS options yet aside from CM7. However, ICS, Ubuntu, and Windows 8 are all good possibilities in the future.
FWIW, the stock WebOS browser is so-so. There are a few patches to add some features, but it's still a sore spot compared to all of the options on Android (why can't WebOS get Opera or Dolphin?!). That said, it does handle most pages very well.
Thanks for all the good info!
System updates, are those done via computer or ota?
I assume most software changes such as adding cm7 can be undone for warranty purposes?
I have cm7 on my desire hd so i should be able to use wifi hotspot on my phone and pick it up on the touchpad?
Usually i like to do a bit more research on a device but i got caught up in a $99 black Friday sale so i panicked and bought
The system updates can be done OTA. I believe you can do them through the computer too though if it's easier, or you run into any issues. There is an app/settings pane in the menu to do it.
For the most part -- yeah you should be able to revert to stock if you need to. I'm not sure what breadcrumbs all the patches and CM7, etc, leave behind, but it should be possible. There's something called WebOS Doctor that should be able to restore as well. That said, HP's support has so far seemed incredible for a discontinued product, so it might not even be a problem unless the mods really did break it.
I think wifi tethering should be ok, but I can't say for sure. I think there is a thread somewhere around here about that or ad-hoc networking.
Lol... I know what you mean. I bought mine during the fire sale weekend with barely an idea of what I would do with it.
So i got my new toy last night. Everything is working good. Did the system update on webos ota. Seems like a pretty cool OS. I did find it slightly laggy though while scrolling, surfing, loading programs. I also installed cm7, only took about 10 mins and it's an OS I'm more comfortable working in (plus i needed dolphin browser for proper tabs, i wanted to pull my hair after surfing with the Web OS "tabs"). For being in alpha stages i must say it's very usable.
What are some reasonable expectations on battery life? Webos or Android, standby or "heavy" use?
All in I'm quite happy with my initial testing, especially for the price!
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So i got my new toy last night. Everything is working good. Did the system update on webos ota. Seems like a pretty cool OS. I did find it slightly laggy though while scrolling, surfing, loading programs. I also installed cm7, only took about 10 mins and it's an OS I'm more comfortable working in (plus i needed dolphin browser for proper tabs, i wanted to pull my hair after surfing with the Web OS "tabs"). For being in alpha stages i must say it's very usable.
What are some reasonable expectations on battery life? Webos or Android, standby or "heavy" use?
All in I'm quite happy with my initial testing, especially for the price!
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Really about 7 - 8 hours on android and webos
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Hey everybody. I was hoping for some educated opinions on this. My sister and brother in law picked up a Touchpad for my niece to be able to use. She is 14 and has cerebral palsy. With her motor controls being diminished somewhat she has never been able use a standard PC very effectively. They had always thought that a touchscreen device would be something she could get used to. So far the Touchpad has been a very good pickup for them as she is able to get some good general entertainment out of is. I was talking to them recently about the option to put Android on it and they were curious about it. They both have Android phones and like them very much. They have a few concerns about hacking the tablet and putting Android on it which I was hoping you all could help with.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on WebOS (namely read along books).
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
So give those concerns ... should they go ahead with Android on their HP Touchpad? I am going to send them the link to this thread and it would be great to see some legit opinions. Thank you all!!
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Hey everybody. I was hoping for some educated opinions on this. My sister and brother in law picked up a Touchpad for my niece to be able to use. She is 14 and has cerebral palsy. With her motor controls being diminished somewhat she has never been able use a standard PC very effectively. They had always thought that a touchscreen device would be something she could get used to. So far the Touchpad has been a very good pickup for them as she is able to get some good general entertainment out of is. I was talking to them recently about the option to put Android on it and they were curious about it. They both have Android phones and like them very much. They have a few concerns about hacking the tablet and putting Android on it which I was hoping you all could help with.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on WebOS (namely read along books).
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
So give those concerns ... should they go ahead with Android on their HP Touchpad? I am going to send them the link to this thread and it would be great to see some legit opinions. Thank you all!!
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If you add android (I recommend the unofficial cyanogenmod nightlies, which I use), it won't affect webos at all. That being said, all android ports to the TP are in Alpha, though it runs very well. I would say to go ahead and install android, there's nothing to lose. WebOS is an excellent os, I use it about 50% of the time.
Thanks for the reply. Won't effect WebOS at all? Is it running off the SD or something? I have a HTC HD2 and I used to run Android off an SD and that way I could boot off the ROM or SD ROM and get the best of both worlds. Also, are you experience many issues with the Wifi on those builds? My niece of course likes her Angry Birds, but other than that probably 90% of what she does involves the internet or streaming media ... if the wifi didn't work correctly it would suck for her.
Thanks again!
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Thanks for the reply. Won't effect WebOS at all? Is it running off the SD or something? I have a HTC HD2 and I used to run Android off an SD and that way I could boot off the ROM or SD ROM and get the best of both worlds. Also, are you experience many issues with the Wifi on those builds? My niece of course likes her Angry Birds, but other than that probably 90% of what she does involves the internet or streaming media ... if the wifi didn't work correctly it would suck for her.
Thanks again!
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It affected my webos, but only slightly. Just deleted a few apps that I had installed through preware. Don't let this scare you, though, as I believe it was probably user error. Regarding wifi, there is a wide range of opinions. Mine works very well, but others do not. Android does not run off sd card, as touchpad does not have a slot for it. My basic understanding is that it partitions a portion of the hard drive for android and uses the rest as a faux "sdcard".
IMO, you should do it. My second "android" device was also an hd2, so it seems you have the background and know how to do it. As always, be careful to read as much as possible first. Also, there are a few outdated tutorials floating around (I encountered them when I did my touchpad). If you need a list of the current tuts, I'm sure I or another user can give you the links.
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Regarding wifi, there is a wide range of opinions. Mine works very well, but others do not. Android does not run off sd card, as touchpad does not have a slot for it. My basic understanding is that it partitions a portion of the hard drive for android and uses the rest as a faux "sdcard".
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Yes, you end up with WebOs, Android, and a shared data area that is called "sdcard" under Android and visible from a PC.
The WiFi issues can usually be overcome if the WiFi router is yours. If you have to connect to an encrypted WiFi network e.g. at school, that could be an issue.
The range of apps for Android is much wider, including some very nice read along (or read to you) books. But switching to Android means they have to be bought again.
I LOVE the look and feel of WebOS, but I'm a die hard android fan. With wifi being spotty at best on android, I'd stick with WebOS for now. But like the previous posts have said, you can dual boot both OS (just set WebOS to the default in moboot)
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There is a "fix" for the wifi. Just install Rohan's Mod. It works beautifully. I don't have any wifi issues at all.
There's another thing that "fixes" the Wifi issue. Set your router to use one of the lower channels - I suggest 1-3, but anything below 6 is good. Then reconnect to it with your Touchpad, and you're good. There's been some issues in the upper channels, mainly with the fact that CM can support up to channel 14, but nothing in North America is legally licensed to use those channels. So set your regulatory domain to 11, your router to a lower channel, and you're golden.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
Cm9 Runs extremely smooth
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on Web-OS.
They wont lose any apps you can always reboot to web-os
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
Almost about every works expect for the camera and you could always switch back to web-OS and use the camera.
One thing i think you might find a problem is that Android might be to complex for her
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They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
Cm9 Runs extremely smooth
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CM9 (at least Alphas/official nightlies without overclock) is far behind the latest WebOS in term of interface smoothness.
OP, Battery drain is rather big, and if you'd allow it to discharge to 0%, you wouldn't be able to charge it from Android until you reboot to webos (which could be tricky) and charge it some time from there. Camera doesn't work, mic doesn't work, there are some force closes here and there, and even reboots sometimes.
Overall, don't think that current state of TP Android is suitable for non-geek person, and, as i understand, your niece is extremely non-geek. Better stick with WebOS for now, or get ready to explain stuff to her.
Yea Def put android on it. You wont lose webos if she doesnt like android. So you can give the child a choice.
I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
I have never used CM7 since I just got my Touchpad a few weeks ago when CM9 was out. But CM9 is stable. Just doesnt have camera or mic working. I dont know if these issues are the same with CM7. But if your mom has no need for all the apps android has to offer, she can just use webOS which is more stable than both CM7 and CM9.
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I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
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Dont bother at all with CM7. CM9 and other ICS roms are far more stable. Pretty much everything works except for the camera and microphone. Battery life is nowhere near as good as in webOS, expect about 2 days of standby or about 5 hours of constant usage. Some people have wifi issues, but they're more often than not fixed by setting the router to avoid higher channels (keep it on 6 or below). The vibrate motor also for some reason stops working after the device goes into sleep, and the only way to get it going again is to reboot but I dont think that's a big issue for anyone.
As for a ROM, I'd recommend CM9 not because its the best but because its the one I'm most familiar with, and I can say its fairly stable. Sometimes it will randomly reboot, but never while actively using it. I'm using a nightly, but since you're giving this to a family member you might be better off with the better tested Alpha 2.
Stable Rom: Classicnerd
For me the most stable rom has been classicnerd's latest version. I have been using it and donot get any force closes or reboots. You can find the latest version at classicnerd.net/Betas/
as far as CM9 and the camera/mic issues, I think she would want to use skype to video chat with family members, so that would be a problem.
Does classicnerd have that issue?
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as far as CM9 and the camera/mic issues, I think she would want to use skype to video chat with family members, so that would be a problem.
Does classicnerd have that issue?
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All CM9 ROMs have that issue. Again, she can use webOS for that though.
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All CM9 ROMs have that issue. Again, she can use webOS for that though.
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webos does not have a lot of the banking and other apps she may find useful. Although is it easy to dual boot webOS and android? I'm thinking maybe its useful to boot to webOS just for skype and Android for everything else. That is, if its easy to switch between them.
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webos does not have a lot of the banking and other apps she may find useful. Although is it easy to dual boot webOS and android? I'm thinking maybe its useful to boot to webOS just for skype and Android for everything else. That is, if its easy to switch between them.
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Dual booting is the only way to do it. As far as I know, you cant replace webOS. When you follow the instructions to install android, you also install what is called a moboot that lets you select which operating system to boot into when starting the device. Switching between the two is easy and is just a matter of restarting your device.
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I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
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CM7, yes.
Personally, I prefer AOKP.
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Just depends on how adept she is at technology. If she can decently run a computer and text, she should be mostly okay. The one thing I would highly recommend is to make sure she can fix the wifi authentication problem. Basically, every now and then, wifi will have an authentication problem. When this happens, she needs to go to wifi settings, forget the router, toggle wifi off/on, and sign back into the router. This problem usually occurs for me when I leave wifi on and then reboot or get a random reboot. Takes maybe a minute to fix. As far as ROM, I like oat's light and tasty, although they're all pretty good, as they have the same base.
Sorry, I have to get this out of my system, then I'll be back to polite nice Canadian. In short, try one and see.
<rant mode on>
One of these days, people will actually glance through the forums as opposed to posting a new thread. This thread has been duplicated many other times before now.
In the end, again, just grab one, take it for a spin, and try it. Start with the more official ones, and work out from there until you find something you like. If nothing suits your fancy, take the source and make your own. It's pretty simple. So please stop spamming the boards with "Which ROM should I use" threads. </rant mode off>
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Personally, I prefer AOKP.
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I have tried CN and others but, I think that Oat's light n' tasty is the best so far. All my games run great and so does netflix and YouTube. But, a Rom is only good if it runs the apps you like. You I'll have to find the one that works best for you. I still think webOS is still good. Just my $0.02
I figured one more opinion can't hurt.
I've been using AOKP on my touchpad ever since I found out that they build roms for hp touchpads. It's great, so is CM9 but for some reason my touchpad refuses to behave with CM9, I'm talking random reboots, wifi issues, SOD (screen of death), and so on. ClassicNerd is also great too but I fell in love with the ROM control options available with AOKP.
Either way, one of the earlier posts mentioned that battery life is weak with ICS which is NOT the case for me, I always have wifi on, with my CPU overclocked to the maximum available frequency and get about 7 days, yes 7 DAYS, of standby and at least a full day of constant use.
As for skype, it is not fully functional with all android devices, just the few that the skype people officially support, I've tried it on my phone and it gave me a lot of issues, so even if the mic and cam were working I doubt skype would work well enough on the TP.
Obviously as others have mentioned earlier ICS is much better on the TP than GB, plus you have the great option of dual booting so you could always use WebOS which is pretty decent itself.
All in all, the TP was a great $100 investment and has a lot of support from some great devs out there. My almost 3 years old nephew has one and he loves it too lol
if you install one of the current nightlys, unofficial or official, she should be running just fine until you come over and install the one of the newer ones for her
the nightlys seem to be running great, even without the supreme mods.
can anyone tell me if the supreme mods are still worth installing?
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if you install one of the current nightlys, unofficial or official, she should be running just fine until you come over and install the one of the newer ones for her
the nightlys seem to be running great, even without the supreme mods.
can anyone tell me if the supreme mods are still worth installing?
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I found your answer on another thread:
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I read somewhere that the tweaks were in one way or another no longer relevant or in some form had been incorporated into Android starting with Gingerbread... I think the post is actually in this thread. I myself was using it for a while but after reading that I stopped flashing it and haven't missed it
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I have been a member for a long time, but I never post anything so in that sense I'm new enough that I can't post this in the forum I wanted to, so I'm asking here. This is going to sound like a hateful rant and I'm sure someone is thinking, "If she knows that, then why is she hatefully ranting?" I am not ready to give up yet, so I'm explaining how I arrived at this point.
I have had my Gtab for about a year and a half. In that time I have rooted it and changed the ROM several times. I moved up to the 1.2 bootloader. In all this time I haven't really used it much because it just doesn't work right no matter which rom I try. Each rom will be ok for a few days, and then it starts getting glitchy. I got so fed up with it, I just parked it for several months and didn't touch it. Just recently I have installed the smoother bean rom. It is sort of ok but it doesn't 'just work'. I'm not a bigtime gamer, I like angry birds and sudoku. I surf the internet, watch videos, read books/magazines that are in epub format. When I study, I highlight text and make notes. When I sit down to study, I need it to work. No hangups or lockups or slow/frozen screens. When I get it out to use at the KH to follow along with the material I studied previously, I need it to just work. It has been to the point that I had to open the thing and physically unplug the battery to get it to behave. I was so excited to get this tablet and read all the information in these forums about it, so I knew what I was getting into when I bought it. The bloom is off the rose and I just want a tablet that does what I want it to do. I don't even care if it has jellybean or ICS or even Honeycomb at this point... I just want a tablet that works without having to fiddle around with the software.
And I don't install crazy amounts of apps. I think there are 7 or 8 that I use. Mainly Moon+ reader, Dolphin browser, Pinterest and Sudoku and Angry birds. I also like to sync my google stuff, calendar, contacts, email.
I'm am thinking I might put it back to stock and let it do all the OTA updates and see how it runs. But if I do that, I have to do the fix that makes the google market and stuff work. If I can do that and in the end have a working tablet that is decent and stable, I'll do it. Can anyone give me any feedback after having done this themselves? How was your tablet after? I remember how horrible it was out of the box. Is it better? MUCH MUCH Better? or just a little better.
Is there another rom that has been proven to be stable? I'm not worried if the camera or bluetooth doesn't work, I don't use those with the tablet. I don't think they are working right now, I'm not sure I haven't tried them since I installed the smoother bean rom. It can be any version of Android, I don't care.
I have given some thought to selling my gtab and getting another tablet, but I don't want to do that just yet. I know there has to be a solution, I just haven't found it yet.
Any feed back or suggestions would be most appreciated. The developers work hard on this tablet and have kept it going when Viewsonic themselves quit on it. I think that its really cool that there is such a devoted community of people who still love this tablet.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
My recomendation for "stable"
No expert here, but I have multiple g-tablets. For the "stable" ROM, I use Cyanogenmod cm-7.2.0-smb_a1002.zip
Hope that helps,
Jack
I have very similar experience as yours. Bought the gtab long ago, played for a while, then stashed away for several month, but pulled it out again while some brilliant devs actually put JB on it.
I will never ever go back to stock on gtab. Both Smoother Bean and G-Harmony Jellybean ROMs work reasonably well. In my opinion, they are already pushing the limit of the hardware.
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No expert here, but I have multiple g-tablets. For the "stable" ROM, I use Cyanogenmod cm-7.2.0-smb_a1002.zip
Hope that helps,
Jack
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Whereabouts can I download that ROM? I googled the file name and I found the cyanogen download page with the various releases but I wasn't sure which one to pick. I didn't see any that said for the gtab and to tell the truth, it was late and my eyes were sleepy! If you know of a place to download the ROM, I would appreciate it. I would like to give it a shot and see how it goes on my tablet. I'm also going to try out reinstalling JB. I didn't realize there was a update for smoOther bean. So, we'll see what happens.
For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
DaggerDave said:
For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
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Second that! :good:
When will TeamDRH be releasing a new JB rom?
Do you mind to share the new rom?
Thanks for the feedback ya'll. I did install the CM7 ROM and I also tried another one, I can't remember right now which one it was. I was tempted away by the G-Harmony Jellybean ([ROM-AOSP][BL-1.2]G-Harmony Jellybean 4.1.2 ODEXed (UPDATED 12/28)) , I installed the Overclocked version and I have to say it is doing very well. I did have some SOD's but I supercharged it and bumped up the CPU with No Frills CPU and since then it has had no trouble. Its been since Saturday that I installed this ROM and I have used it a bunch since then. I guess time will tell.
I do have a question tho about a problem I'm having but it's absutely not a deal breaker. I can't get google calendar to sync. I know other ROMS have had a package to install that fixed this but I wasn't sure if I could do that with this rom. I don't want to jack up my install. I don't absolutelly have to get the calendar working right now. I don't have reliable internet at home, so the only time I get online with the thing is when I wifi tether to my phone. Was just wondering if anyone knew how to resolve this issue. Again, I would post in the forum for this ROM but I'm not allowed yet.
Thanks!
DaggerDave said:
For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
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Can you share the ROM, please?
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Can you share the ROM, please?
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Do you mind to share the new rom?
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When DRH is ready to release their new rom, it will likely be on the other forum first. Search Google for "gtablet roms 1.2/1.3" and that forum will be listed at the top of the page. Can't link you to it, else I may anger the XDA Moderators! Sounds like they are very close, just waiting on a new recovery.
As for my current build, just a basic CM10 build with a few minor customizations (my chosen boot animation, removed/replace system apps, changes to build.prop, etc.). I cannot share it because I am using the new (unreleased) kernel, and it's a pretty 'plain' version of CM10, but you can easily build it all yourself. Once you have your build environment setup, it is easy to rebuild an updated version any time you like. Only thing is, you are on your own when it comes to troubleshooting and support! If you are interested, I can link you to the info I used to figure out how to build the kernel and CM10, and the Git locations of the required source code. You would need a decent computer running 64bit Linux (I use Arch Linux, but Ubuntu is easier to setup), about 50GB hard drive space, and some free time. I just did it for fun, plus I'm impatient and wanted to try the new kernel, and none of the JB roms at the time would run well for me.
Best ROM for G-Tab
Hi all,
I bought my G-Tab whentheyfirst came out and have tried about 13 or 14 ROM's over the last (nearly) two years. In my opinion the best is SmoOtherBean by Nobe1976. Out of the box it is pretty good, I made a few minor adjustments after the install and it is running perfectly.
Changed dpi to160 (enabled Music / Movies in the Play Market)
Used ROM Toolbox to delete Music FX and DSP Manager (fixed problem where music would suddenly blare or change volume)
Set min/max CPU to 312 / 1200 (seems to wake up faster, no lags when browsing,etc)
Give Nob1976 a thumbs up if you like his ROM - stop the trolls who have chased off so many devs.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900562
This post. A million times this post. Smooth bean looks promising but I've been through so many roms with mediocre to poor tab perf.
[=torilyn73;37717272]I have been a member for a long time, but I never post anything so in that sense I'm new enough that I can't post this in the forum I wanted to, so I'm asking here. This is going to sound like a hateful rant and I'm sure someone is thinking, "If she knows that, then why is she hatefully ranting?" I am not ready to give up yet, so I'm explaining how I arrived at this point.
I have had my Gtab for about a year and a half. In that time I have rooted it and changed the ROM several times. I moved up to the 1.2 bootloader. In all this time I haven't really used it much because it just doesn't work right no matter which rom I try. Each rom will be ok for a few days, and then it starts getting glitchy. I got so fed up with it, I just parked it for several months and didn't touch it. Just recently I have installed the smoother bean rom. It is sort of ok but it doesn't 'just work'. I'm not a bigtime gamer, I like angry birds and sudoku. I surf the internet, watch videos, read books/magazines that are in epub format. When I study, I highlight text and make notes. When I sit down to study, I need it to work. No hangups or lockups or slow/frozen screens. When I get it out to use at the KH to follow along with the material I studied previously, I need it to just work. It has been to the point that I had to open the thing and physically unplug the battery to get it to behave. I was so excited to get this tablet and read all the information in these forums about it, so I knew what I was getting into when I bought it. The bloom is off the rose and I just want a tablet that does what I want it to do. I don't even care if it has jellybean or ICS or even Honeycomb at this point... I just want a tablet that works without having to fiddle around with the software.
And I don't install crazy amounts of apps. I think there are 7 or 8 that I use. Mainly Moon+ reader, Dolphin browser, Pinterest and Sudoku and Angry birds. I also like to sync my google stuff, calendar, contacts, email.
I'm am thinking I might put it back to stock and let it do all the OTA updates and see how it runs. But if I do that, I have to do the fix that makes the google market and stuff work. If I can do that and in the end have a working tablet that is decent and stable, I'll do it. Can anyone give me any feedback after having done this themselves? How was your tablet after? I remember how horrible it was out of the box. Is it better? MUCH MUCH Better? or just a little better.
Is there another rom that has been proven to be stable? I'm not worried if the camera or bluetooth doesn't work, I don't use those with the tablet. I don't think they are working right now, I'm not sure I haven't tried them since I installed the smoother bean rom. It can be any version of Android, I don't care.
I have given some thought to selling my gtab and getting another tablet, but I don't want to do that just yet. I know there has to be a solution, I just haven't found it yet.
Any feed back or suggestions would be most appreciated. The developers work hard on this tablet and have kept it going when Viewsonic themselves quit on it. I think that its really cool that there is such a devoted community of people who still love this tablet.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions![/QUOTE]
Running SmoOther Bean but it starts up laggy?
Nice you gave me some more settings to try. Don't know that I want to change the DPI or have any issues with volume. Did change CPU settings. Anything else you'd recommend?
After it's run for about 10 minutes, it seems to work OK, only occasional lag. I'm setting background processes limit to none on every boot up. Anyone have a way to make that change stick between reboots?
Thanks!
Downloadbob
ugsny321 said:
Hi all,
I bought my G-Tab whentheyfirst came out and have tried about 13 or 14 ROM's over the last (nearly) two years. In my opinion the best is SmoOtherBean by Nobe1976. Out of the box it is pretty good, I made a few minor adjustments after the install and it is running perfectly.
Changed dpi to160 (enabled Music / Movies in the Play Market)
Used ROM Toolbox to delete Music FX and DSP Manager (fixed problem where music would suddenly blare or change volume)
Set min/max CPU to 312 / 1200 (seems to wake up faster, no lags when browsing,etc)
Give Nob1976 a thumbs up if you like his ROM - stop the trolls who have chased off so many devs.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900562
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Check out nobe1976 UnOfficial -BAKED ROM
For anyone who is "still looking" for something stable, check out noble1976 modified Blackbean (on this site).
I am very satisfied with this "beta" version that this maybe will be the last one I'll be using (its that stable for me).
A big THANK YOU to Noble1976 for his hard work on getting this version to work on the gtablet and his PAC rom and all the other help he has given to us. :good:
What's your experience like with Blackbean?
Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
_dave said:
For anyone who is "still looking" for something stable, check out noble1976 modified Blackbean (on this site).
I am very satisfied with this "beta" version that this maybe will be the last one I'll be using (its that stable for me).
A big THANK YOU to Noble1976 for his hard work on getting this version to work on the gtablet and his PAC rom and all the other help he has given to us. :good:
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downloadbob said:
Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
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BAKED Bean you will must NVFlash to the new 2013DRH setup. The boot.img in that ROM is the latest fosser2 3.1.10 kernel. The mounting is completely different other then the System. So updating the Tablet with the latest that is linked in the OP should be done to the T.
downloadbob said:
Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
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The only "lag" I'm seeing is after the opening screen animation the screen goes blank for 10sec or so. So, just wait till the regular default screen appears.
And be sure to do what Nobe1976 said. It went very easy for me changing over, for I already have used NVFlash 2013DRH version with
nobe1976 "PAC" ROM. Good Luck.
With Jellybean based ROM installed, this tablet is working almost as well as the flashy tablets out there today.
Did everyone just leave their gtab in the basement to collect dust?
Which jelly bean rom are you using? How long have you been using? I've tried a few and after a week or so they slow down. I'm hoping a kit kat rom will work.
Jelly Bean on Gtab
TheFlyingPig said:
With Jellybean based ROM installed, this tablet is working almost as well as the flashy tablets out there today.
Did everyone just leave their gtab in the basement to collect dust?
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I installed drh's jelly bean 4.2 beta which I thought worked quite well and faster than their 4.1. Only problem is after charging I could not get it back on until the battery was drained. I am hoping installing wakelocker will solve this issue. Did you install a cwm version?
I'm not an expert but you probably need a reset hole. I've had lockups with custom roms and had to drill the hole.
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I've completely ditched android and moved over to windows.
striker59 said:
I'm not an expert but you probably need a reset hole. I've had lockups with custom roms and had to drill the hole.
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I was going to do that if WAKELOCK did not work. But it works.
Thanks
Mine works fine with VeganTAB. I've tried some other ROMs but always gone back to Vegan.
goog64 said:
Mine works fine with VeganTAB. I've tried some other ROMs but always gone back to Vegan.
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I tried VeganTAB in the past and it was very smooth, but video hardware acceleration seemed to be broken. Does it work for you? (if yes, which VeganTAB version are you using?)
Using Vegan-tab 7.1.0, video works with YouTube and Facebook app. Also videos play in gallery app.
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Using Vegan-tab 7.1.0, video works with YouTube and Facebook app. Also videos play in gallery app.
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Thanks!
I have the DRH Jellybean ROM loaded as well. Keeps the kids' hands off of my transformer. But, I have to say, the gtab has been a really nice device and it works to play movies on road trips, browse the web, etc. Really happy for the support of the DEVs on the site for making the purchase worthwhile (I still get heartburn thinking about that Tap 'n Tap UI, LOL). It's a clunky tablet, and now it's got a hole drilled in the back cover, but it's a long way from retirement, and the battery life is still outstanding. Thanks again all!
Meh
I don't know if I'm in the minority but I've never had any luck with my gTab. From day one, the stock ROM sucked so I rooted. Bounced around from ROM to ROM but never found one that was stable enough to use as a daily driver. It's sat in a drawer for the last couple years and I just dusted it off yesterday to see if any of the ROMs that have come out lately would work better. Tried DRH JB beta - slow and apps crash, tried SmootherBean and it's the same story. I love tinkering with my Android devices but typically I can get an end result that's better than what I started with. Not so much with the gTab. All I want is a reliable ROM and so far I'm convinced that it doesn't exist for this POS tablet. Ugh.
Mine is sitting on the shelf since the battery turned into a balloon and popped the back cover off.
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Still running SmOoTher_BeAn_4.1.2 on mine. Battery is junk, gets about 10 minutes off the dock before it dies. It still runs great 99% of the time, its been a fantastic purchase and worth every penny.
Basically it sits in a dock 24/7 and I use it for Netflix/ HBO Go/ MX Player movies. I was using it for ROMs and emulators too, but the Ouya took that spot.
I still use it, its just not an everyday device like it used to be. Just kind of wish I had some type of VNC remote control app for it on my phone so I didn't have to walk over and touch it to do everything, kind of like a Chromecast.
...just dug mine out for some reason that I forget now the other week, batt was dead... dug up the charger today, and MIGHT get around to doing something with it. (Was bootlooping or just crashing like the orig ROM did IIRC when I shelved it.)
Moved on to IIRC the original Nook Color(CM booting from usd), then picked up a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7+(which I used for quite a while stock), then eventually the n7(2013 stock still running it). Also ended up picking up a Touchpad a while back, but I've just found the >7" tablets to be uselessly large, but have now come to the feeling that tablets are just mostly useless to begin with, especially when faced with wanting to enter detailed email/etc. with no keyboard. Too much of a PITA. (Also picked up an Archos IT43 & 32 back in the day. The 32 for media, and try at the 43(bigger than my phone at the time for a smaller tablet, but it sucked since it had gimped archos android and well was almost as bad as the stock gtab and noone cared about these, plus the 43 had horrible resistive touch(resistive touch on the 32 was pretty damned good though, as good as cap touch)).
-> picked up an i3/4GB chromebook(11" slightly bigger than those 10" tabs but feels lighter at least, upgraded SSD to 128GB dev mode crouton/trusty/xfce) which is just more generally useful when I want small and light than any tablet that I've owned. If I want just tablet function I think that the n5 is big enough(even n4 really) to fill that spot. Might use them on the odd occasion for complex PDFs but that's really the only reason I can think to bother keeping them around.
So maybe one day when I'm really bored(or snowed in and bored) I'll charge up the gtab and poke it for old time's sake.
Hey guys,
I must say Gtab has served well and worth the money spent. It has been an excellent learning curve as well. Learned a lot about android debugging and flashing devices with gtab only.
Sadly enough, I dropped mine with the headphone pluged in, and it hit the floor in a way that headphone connection broke. I lost sound due to this mechanical damage.
Any ways,, here is a crazy idea. I want to use Gtablet's touch display with Raspberry pi. Has anyone as any idea how would I accomplish this?
Let me know,
Thanks,.
theteju said:
Hey guys,
I must say Gtab has served well and worth the money spent. It has been an excellent learning curve as well. Learned a lot about android debugging and flashing devices with gtab only.
Sadly enough, I dropped mine with the headphone pluged in, and it hit the floor in a way that headphone connection broke. I lost sound due to this mechanical damage.
Any ways,, here is a crazy idea. I want to use Gtablet's touch display with Raspberry pi. Has anyone as any idea how would I accomplish this?
Let me know,
Thanks,.
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maybe you can solder the jack/board again to the mainboard
well
i would try to look up the LCD/touch IC data sheet to see the electrical diagram and see how would you connect itt or interface it with a raspberry pi
(and play from there)
i doubt its easily doable but good luck and let me know