After many years it's time to retire my HTC Incredible (the 1st version). I've been running a modified version of CyanogenMod for quite a while and I've been very happy. The phone has now lived past it's useful life and I'm moving to the S III. My question is, what features (if any) would I loose by running CyanogenMod on the S III instead of the stock ROM?
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It's subjective. Some consider those features as bloatwares and some just cannot live without it.
The list could be quite long. Some of the important features will be:
1) Camera quality
2) Multiwindow
3) Smart Stay
4) Smart Rotation
5) Smart Alert
6) extFat on SD card
7) Some exclusive Samsung apps
8) Touchwiz launcher
But of course, you get something else in return by using CM.
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ffeingol said:
After many years it's time to retire my HTC Incredible (the 1st version). I've been running a modified version of CyanogenMod for quite a while and I've been very happy. The phone has now lived past it's useful life and I'm moving to the S III. My question is, what features (if any) would I loose by running CyanogenMod on the S III instead of the stock ROM?
Thanks in advacne
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But there's a lot of ROMs that mix the beauty of pure AOSP with Samsung features. If you choose a Samsung based ROM you won't loose any features and you will get some extras(15 toggles buttons, better battery life, faster etc..)
I don't want to name any, you should look at them and decide for yourself.
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Hi guys,
can you help me understanding the main pros/cons for going with Samsung JB or an AOSP rom on the Galaxy S3?
I've tried searching the forum but without luck, anyone got a thread link where this is covered?
My first Samsung (S3) phone is on its way by mail, and I'm trying to decide which type of rom to choose.
Off course I see the obvious stuff like:
Open vs Closed source
Stock vs Custom UI
But, except for the above; why should I choose an optimized (de-odexed, de-bloated etc. etc.) Samsung JB rom over an AOSP rom?
From what I can understand custom kernels also exists for both rom types, so that wouldn't be an argument right?
I'm not familiar with the current HW support in AOSP rom's for the S3. Generally this has been where roms for my HTC phones have differed in the past. What's the status with the S3, do AOSP support most of the stuff or is there still some way to go?
Please shed some light for me :fingers-crossed:
And please don't compare specific rom's against each others. I'm trying to understand this at higher level, I will off course test several rom's and make up my own mind about what specific rom release is best suited for me.
Samsung roms will have all the things mentioned in the ads such as direct call, smart stay, multi window etc. Aosp won't have these as they are samsungs additions. Samsung will have touchwiz launcher as default, which comes with a lot of samsung only widgets. Aosp will have vanilla launcher (with some extra functions and tweaks).
Sammy roms generally have better camera than aosp. Aosp is considered to have better battery usage although I can't really tell from my experience of using both types.
Deodexed means it's easier to develop themes for, as the external odex files are repackaged into the apks directly. But it will take a while longer when booting, as odex files are meant to speed up this process. As for the actual usage, not much difference.
Debloated means getting rid of bloatware that come with your phone, sich as chaton, google talk etc. There will be quite a lot of apps that you don't use but will be present and wasting your phone resources. Debloating is done by some developers but you can do most of ot yourself as long as you're rooted.
Hope this clears things. But these are all general, as you wished it to be. Some aosp will have different launcher options etc, so will sammy roms. As for what you go with, I'll leave it up to you.
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Thanks a lot xcly, this clears up some stuff for me
You say that Sammy roms have better camera, what about the rest of the HW support on AOSP? The rest of the stuff (GPS, Accel, Gyro etc.) works ok?
From what I can gather from your post (and reading around) the choice boils down to two main points for me
HW support
Kernel (stability and performance, ofwhich battery performance is derived)
I don't care much for the 'Samsung features' (direct call, smart stay, multi window etc.) and the launcher can always be customized.
Additionally my previous experience is that the continious devlopment done on AOSP (with nightlies etc.) gives a nice feeling of continous improvement that you miss from manufacturer roms. For manufacturer roms you're relying on manufacturer relase schedules and leaks. But off course, one can argue that there is continous development through hacking, back-porting and kernel improvements for these roms as well..
Ultimately I think Ill just have to try out the most popular roms of both types before I'm able to decide what type I go with as a daily driver.
As for kernels most of then support both aosp and sammy so don't worry about it too much. Gps wifi and the lot work well on both as well.
Samsung didn't release any source code for its processor so aosp roms can never realise the full potential. Never had any trouble using aosp so I wouldn't say there is a huge difference, but I guess some advanced users will miss the hw side of things..
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Simple to say
TouchWiz UI and pure Android UI.
Other things basically are very similar
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Haha nice. All my words in a single sentence
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Here is some personal feeling about them.
As you can see from my signature that I had Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus before, and after I lost my GNex, I tried to buy a Nexus 4, but it kinda like mission impossible as it's serious outta supply, so I was forced to make compromise and go with Galaxy S III, which is very nice phone through some thing I don't like such as hardware button and soft key (because GNex uses virtual button on screen which is completely customizable ).
I have been using AOSP ROM for over a year (well, it's outta options actually as they are Google's sons but Samsung didn't make a ROM for them even they are manufactured by Samsung , and 3 month with Sammy ROM.
Even I got my S3, the first thing I have done is flash AOSP ROM and get my feeling about GNex back, but unfortunately due to some reasons, I couldn't make it become GNex-like and realize it is something fool, so I tried Sammy stock ROM.
My first feeling about it is a little prettier than AOSP ( through there's countless themes for AOSP, I am just talking about default theme ) and some Sammy features are very interesting and attractive. (IMHO, I'd say it is more user-friendly to users ) which is why I decided to stay with it , but after all these times, I didn't actually use these features much except multi windows and slide to dial...
OK, sorry for my non sense words and my bad English just can exactly express what I trying to say...
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FoxHound rom is all you need.
crDroid is the most stable Sammy Tom out there with the option of having an AOSP theme & not installing all the bloatware that Samsung Roms are notorious for.
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A quick follow up question
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
Can't help you much on that. Never tried mhl on my s3, aosp or otherwise. You're better off asking/searching in cm thread. If it works on cm, it'd probably work on other aosp roms too.
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Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
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You need to read the relevant rom threads or logically ask in those threads .
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Hi my name is Rob and I'm a flashaholic I have to admit with every new phone I get I probably flash every custom ROM made for it I'm not much for stock based roms but I got my lg g2 about a month ago and have flashed to try out just about every ROM built for it so far and I can't wait to see more kitkat ROMs
I pretty much like to flash the latest versions of android to just waiting on more kit kat ROMs
Over the past two days I've flashed 6 different ROMs but keep coming back to ose even though it's not that stable it has all the features I'm looking for
What about you
Figured I'd start a thread for fun let's hear your confessions
am afraid its a completely normal condition bought on by a very complicated organism designated lgg2 i'm afraid the prognosis is not good as the disease is very fast and progressive with episodes of high euphoria followed by intervals of extreme anxiousness- we can only hope that the research into this worrying condition will be continued
and that maybe in the distant future there may be a cure.
I myself find I've been able to avoid the flashaholism by knowing how I like my phone
I'm on pa currently awaiting cm to finish fixing the lte issues.
But I my self know I like a build of the latest cm, stripped down, debloated to it's bare minimum, with a good kernel, and a few tweaks
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I wanna flash g flex Rom but I'm afraid to **** **** up
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Hello, flashaholic here as well.
Love the g2, Flashed cm, PA rom, slimkat and others. Unfortunately I'm soft-bricked at the moment. Hoping to find a resolution.
However with that being said I love the flexibility and the customization.
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I am in the same boat. Always looking to see if my circle or ROMS have updated versions. At this point I cannot go back to stock I think I like the latest 4.4.2 performance. Stock just feels slow to me though it's been a while. Maybe ill check out the Flex..
Using PA Houstonn's 4.4.2, Beanstalk 4.4.2, PacMan 4.3 nightlies, and 4.4.2 SlimKat weeklies.
Good luck with your addiction.
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Hi my name is Rob and I'm a flashaholic I have to admit with every new phone I get I probably flash every custom ROM made for it I'm not much for stock based roms but I got my lg g2 about a month ago and have flashed to try out just about every ROM built for it so far and I can't wait to see more kitkat ROMs
I pretty much like to flash the latest versions of android to just waiting on more kit kat ROMs
What about you
Figured I'd start a thread for fun let's hear your confessions
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me too, this week i flash my first stock rom, and no good, aosp is way faster, if you think in test more there is carbom rom now!
I've always been a flashaholic. This is the first phone I've been completely satisfied with just root. I couldn't care less about flashing now, and its pretty sweet not having to set my accounts up and restore backups once a day.
Yes I like this subject since it reflects my internal war
I'm gonna copy a reply I wrote due days ago on similar topic to avoid writing the whole essay :
"My friend THIS is my biggest issue currently!
I'm gonna be THOROUGH so BEWARE 
I come from many phones history (see signature) where I always flashed PA or CM especially on touchwiz phones.
However on the G2, I liked stock at first and kept using it for around 2 months.
Then, having ORD decease (  see signature again) I kept my eye on PA and tried it on Christmas vacation. It caused me such a big confusion to the extent where I went between stock and PA like 5 times confused on which is BETTER and which I LIKE most.
Currently I returned 2 days ago to stock but still thinking about PA... 
Yes stock is nice with all features and stability, but I just HATE the nonconformity in design (even when using Xposed heavily to stabilize things and theme others).
-Also PA gave me such a smooth experience (much faster) with a lot more RAM and great simple looks. About RAM I greenified most system and installed apps that hogs RAM and still barely have about 500mb of free RAM while I have around 900mb on AOSP roms without any greenifying.
-Most importantly I had crazy battery life on PA while it's lower on stock even when nearly disabling every feature (except knock on of course).
-The thing that made me return to stock, believe it or not, was mainly camera (I know there's a mod for stock camera on AOSP but it's not that functional) and non-intrusive call notification which is a life saver when playing games. I tried "call heads", "call popout" from playstore but none worked nicely all the time.
Even when Omni gives that feature, I cannot install Halo (via Xhalo xposed module) on this ROM bcz it conflicts heavily with multiwindow feature in their rom which I cannot care less about it.
-I hate stock lockscreen and I love AOSP lockscreen.
-I hate AOSP camera and I like stock camera.
-I love AOSP calendar which options of colouring the events but hate its lack of features. I love stock calendar and its widget and snooze option while I hate its lack of colouring events feature.
-Although stock launcher is great it keeps redrawing (reloading) when quitting apps (heavy ones) which is annoying. AOSP laucher doesn't but lack features.
-Sound quality TILL NOW is better on stock.
-Immersive mode and the ability to always see notification bar even when in heavy games is awesome on AOSP.
-Quick memo is awesome for screenshots and editing on the run and sharing. I still couldn't find an app that does all that, that simple and quick on AOSP.
-Call voice recorder (G2 tweakbox) gives amazing sound and recording quality while call recorders on AOSP suck.
-NO FM radio on AOSP till now (maybe spirit fm will change that eventually).
Although most times I think that I don't need all those "useless" features on stock and that I need the quickness, smoothness of AOSP. I end up thinking that I did not pay 650$ (yes in my country) for a 32GB G2 to dump all those and run AOSP on it. If so, it would have been smarter ( and cheaper) if I kept my nexus 4 (or get a cheaper nexus 5 rather a G2). However I really like the feel and looks of AOSP. However  it's those small/silly/gimmick/nice cool features that stock ROM gives you that make you feel that you own a SMARTphone and not any simple phone. It's the fact that you know that they are THERE when you need them that makes you feel satisfied even when you really rarely use them.
As you can see, it's a REALLY very TOUGH decision which always makes me feel confused. One day I wanna use AOSP, the other stock.
I really hate that phone for that.  On samsung phones I really didn't give a thought about it.
Regards,"
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damn found another rom
Well found another ROM that looks interesting downloading and flashing now beanstalk 4.4.2
Update: right now I'm torn between beanstalk and slimkat have them both on my phone and I keep switching back and fourth but I think beanstalk is winning so many customizations think in gonna stick with it for awhile
Well found my new ROM beanstalk ROM has just about everything you'll want
App Compatibility?
All those on AOSP ROMs, What about apps. I have read that most of the apps specially games don't work on AOSP on lg g2. You have that problem?
I bought my Galaxy S5 a couple of months ago and I still have this S2. I'm really not sure what to do with this phone. Not gonna sell it away because it is an awesome phone.
But here I'm planning: (I'm sure there are a lot of people like me, not sure what to do with their old S2 now.)
- build a media center.
But this requires sammy ROM so it could be connected to the TV using HDMI.
- try out new ROMs.
Yeah awesome idea.
- use it as an IP Camera.
- use it as an "iPod"
I have some questions regarding these choices.
1) shall I stick to sammy jellybean or upgrade to KitKat? I'm currently using kikat on this S2 but I would like to use it on the TV
2) will it have any problems if I let my S2 stick on he charger 24/7? If only I would like to use it as an IP camera. Will it have any effects on the battery/motherboard?
I hope fellow S2 members can discuss all this here. Thanks!
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I am not an s2 user anymore for 1,5 years but.
1) you can stick to jellybean stock if you want it for your tv but I suggest to use a custom rom based on stock jellybean, look in the dev forums there are a couple of it.
2) I am not sure or you will have any problems but just like on a laptop and other devices its not good to let a battery charge for 24/7 so google it for sure for your own safety/phone life.
I also hope for you that other s2 member are going to discuss here with you
I dont see the point to stay on kitkat if you already have the s5. So I suggest to downgrade to an custom stock base rom since it would be also probably more bug free.
I really recommend using a custom stock rom such as neatrom for pure stability. If you prefer a little extra performance (and some new features), go with a kitkat rom such as cyanogenmod or paranoid android (and the list can go for ages).
I decided to go with JB NeatROM. Thanks for the advice guys! I find it more stable and faster as compared to KitKat. (Probably because I didn't use JB for months)
I am having fun downloading roms, I was looking for one that has all the latest NOTE features, is there any that are stable, fast and have all the new features for the Note 1?
EDIT: The features are the S pen features and the multitasking features...
Thanks in advance!
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I am having fun downloading roms, I was looking for one that has all the latest NOTE features, is there any that are stable, fast and have all the new features for the Note 1?
EDIT: The features are the S pen features and the multitasking features...
Thanks in advance!
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The only way to get all Samsung Note features (including mhl and reliable bluetooth) is to run a stock based ROM.
Most custom Roms will support most s pen features either natively or with the use of a 3rd party app.
Multitasking through halo/splitview/floating window etc. is available in many custom ROMs. There are also multi-window mods (2 different mods depending on varient) for the JB stock based ROMs that work identical to that on Note 2.
Speed/reliability varies depending on what you use your phone for and individual ROMs vary also.
Check out the Super Everything thread for the ATT Note i717 or search the android development thread for the features that matter most to you.
Edit: I hope this gives you some direction. Favorite ROM threads are not allowed and I think for most flashers their favourite is the one they flashed after they became bored with their last try.
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The only way to get all Samsung Note features (including mhl and reliable bluetooth) is to run a stock based ROM.
Most custom Roms will support most s pen features either natively or with the use of a 3rd party app.
Multitasking through halo/splitview/floating window etc. is available in many custom ROMs. There are also multi-window mods (2 different mods depending on varient) for the JB stock based ROMs that work identical to that on Note 2.
Speed/reliability varies depending on what you use your phone for and individual ROMs vary also.
Check out the Super Everything thread for the ATT Note i717 or search the android development thread for the features that matter most to you.
Edit: I hope this gives you some direction. Favorite ROM threads are not allowed and I think for most flashers their favourite is the one they flashed after they became bored with their last try.
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thanks.. That's a start. I was looking at getting the multitasking windows, the menu that slides out from the side, and the circle menu I guess that is an s pen feature.
I don't know the full names on these, just I have seen them inaction. My 717 is much faster running lollipop. but its not 100 percent stable.
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thanks.. That's a start. I was looking at getting the multitasking windows, the menu that slides out from the side, and the circle menu I guess that is an s pen feature.
I don't know the full names on these, just I have seen them inaction. My 717 is much faster running lollipop. but its not 100 percent stable.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46928301
Take a look. I think this is what you were talking about regarding side menu and multitasking.
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Hi, I just joined XDA today and sorry for my newbie
I'm planning to own Samsung Galaxy Grand 2 sooner from my sister who already own Xiaomi Redmi Note 2, it was first time to using Android and Samsung brand and currently I am WP user and own Nokia Lumia 720 for two years.
I'll own this phone because of problematic of apps in Windows Phone such BBM and Path which no updates since earlier this year. Also I want to make Android more comfortable to use (such less RAM consumption) and actually I didn't really like Android because of performance issues mainly Samsung.
Which is best rooting software, I prefer rooting via PC.
So, I will replacing crappy stock ROM with custom ROM, I prefer lighter usage and customizable. CM12.1 or BlissPop? For Google apps prefer Gapps Minimalistic
And for battery saving and cleaning, which is the best apps? I know DU Apps well
For customization, I want the S6 Theme for Grand2. Which is the best? And I'll use another minimalistic lock screen
And many more that I can't mention, I want to make Android run faster, less bloating, and less battery hog in geek ways (like kernel method etc). Sorry for my bad English and my noobs!
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Hi, I just joined XDA today and sorry for my newbie
I'm planning to own Samsung Galaxy Grand 2 sooner from my sister who already own Xiaomi Redmi Note 2, it was first time to using Android and Samsung brand and currently I am WP user and own Nokia Lumia 720 for two years.
I'll own this phone because of problematic of apps in Windows Phone such BBM and Path which no updates since earlier this year. Also I want to make Android more comfortable to use (such less RAM consumption) and actually I didn't really like Android because of performance issues mainly Samsung.
Which is best rooting software, I prefer rooting via PC.
So, I will replacing crappy stock ROM with custom ROM, I prefer lighter usage and customizable. CM12.1 or BlissPop? For Google apps prefer Gapps Minimalistic
And for battery saving and cleaning, which is the best apps? I know DU Apps well
For customization, I want the S6 Theme for Grand2. Which is the best? And I'll use another minimalistic lock screen
And many more that I can't mention, I want to make Android run faster, less bloating, and less battery hog in geek ways (like kernel method etc). Sorry for my bad English and my noobs!
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then don't buy a samsung,just buy moto g3 or the yu yuphoria.stock roms are more fast and less buggy than custom roms.