So I've been loading high quality, high bitrate 1080p mkv video files, or 20+mbps H.264 feed caps as .ts, and it works just fine for a couple of days before something terribly goes wrong. Let me explain...
I've been using Dice Player and VPlayer for a while, and Dice have been doing a great job with HW accel on high bitrate videos, they simply look stunning. But as I'm adding more videos from my computer over the last few days, Dice starts freezing, and crashing, while VPlayer still plays the videos but falls back to Software Acceleration. With SW accel only videos drop frames and look choppy at that high bitrate and no hardware acceleration.
To make things worse, now all my video apps like ESPN SportsCenter, WatchESPN, Netflix fail to play videos. Either "Video Can Not be played" or simply a black screen while playing (Netflix).
In the meantime I've downloaded BS player, and a few other players that support HW accel, and they also seem to fallback to SW accel when videos are playing.
Has anyone seen this or know how to solve this issue? I've already restored as this also happened a few days ago. It worked for a few days and I'm having the same issues all over again. I have a feeling that some of the files I've loaded caused this, not sure if deleting or somehow clearing the cache would fix it... also no idea where to poke.
thanks in advance!
I use MX Player with its hardware acceleration without any issue.
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docnok63 said:
I use MX Player with its hardware acceleration without any issue.
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Have that one also. Same issue at this point.
How much free storage do you have? The One X got really funky when over 90-95% of storage was used. If you're close to max take a few videos off and see if anything changes.
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How much free storage do you have? The One X got really funky when over 90-95% of storage was used. If you're close to max take a few videos off and see if anything changes.
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Have 5.64GB free.
Apparently it was the TS raw streams that I had loaded. THose were NBC feeds straight from the C-Band at 24mbps H.264.
All good with mkv wrappers, back to normal.
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How much free storage do you have? The One X got really funky when over 90-95% of storage was used. If you're close to max take a few videos off and see if anything changes.
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Its because its like ssd technology once over 80% capacity its gonna slow down the read/write speed causing it to lag essentially
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Its because its like ssd technology once over 80% capacity its gonna slow down the read/write speed causing it to lag essentially
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You are actually incorrect.
Unlike mechanical HDD technology, SSD's are not suffering from this. There is always between 5 and 15% of the SSD dedicated for Waste Management and Redundancy. That's actually one of the selling points when it comes to SSD's.
Another consideration is that these media players had to remove DTS support and if a video's default audio is DTS, the player simply states cannot play or media unsupported. VLC beta plays DTS in software mode but its CPU intense if high res etc. You can find discussions on the web for the popular media players on how to add DTS support yourself for your phone.
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Another consideration is that these media players had to remove DTS support and if a video's default audio is DTS, the player simply states cannot play or media unsupported. VLC beta plays DTS in software mode but its CPU intense if high res etc. You can discussions on the web for the popular media players on how to add the DTS support yourself for your phone.
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This is actually a very useful reply. It was a raw TS of high bitrate H.264 NBC feed that caused all this. For some reason all of my players freaked out after a while, and caused all the video streaming apps not to play.
After I erased TS files everything went back to normal. I guess rewrapper is a requirement.
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Its because its like ssd technology once over 80% capacity its gonna slow down the read/write speed causing it to lag essentially
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Also, having over 5GB free is definitely not 80% full.
adrynalyne said:
Also, having over 5GB free is definitely not 80% full.
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your right... 80% is about 12.8 Gb's
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You are actually incorrect.
Unlike mechanical HDD technology, SSD's are not suffering from this. There is always between 5 and 15% of the SSD dedicated for Waste Management and Redundancy. That's actually one of the selling points when it comes to SSD's.
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Personal experience bro and yes i have TRIM enabled... I had less than a gig left and it was down to a 7200RPM HDD (in terms of speed) I removed a few gigs and its back to being fast... Ive done my homework and i can personally say that this is why it happens... Trust me dont fill past 80% (give or take) so and the phone wont slow down in overall performance...
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your right... 80% is about 12.8 Gb's
Personal experience bro and yes i have TRIM enabled... I had less than a gig left and it was down to a 7200RPM HDD (in terms of speed) I removed a few gigs and its back to being fast... Ive done my homework and i can personally say that this is why it happens... Trust me dont fill past 80% (give or take) so and the phone wont slow down in overall performance...
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Writes slow down on a full SSD. Reads should not be affected.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2829/10
adrynalyne said:
Writes slow down on a full SSD. Reads should not be affected.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2829/10
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Ok. I have an 64GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (for those that dont know these are one of the fastest you can currently get)... Allocated space was about 59.5 Gb's. After OS install and Hibernation removed i had a good chunk left for a few games (Skyrin, FO3, FO:NV to name a few) it was down to about roughly 4Gb's of space. Took me a while to firgure out why it was taking more that 30 Seconds for my PC to boot. I ran the WEI and it was telling me that my SSD was rated at 5.9 (7200 RPM rating) Before it was a 7.8... I know the WEI means nothing but when that happened i knew something wasnt right... I removed the larger games and my speed came back. ever since i leave about 10-15Gb's of space on it so i dont get a slow down... take it with a grain of salt if you want but this is what happened and how i fixed it. Same thing was happening over at the Nexus 7 forums on the 16GB tablets... less than 3Gb's left on the device and it got super slow. a few benchmarks were done by AndroidPolice and it showed that ... cant be any more clear that that... just how the technology is...
take it or leave it idc just felt like sharing some info
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OCZ isn't very good. For one thing, their failure rate on the past Vertex drives has been atrociousness. I had one that lasted a year, got a Samsung and it has been MUCH faster. And I can go over 80% without slowdowns...
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OCZ isn't very good. For one thing, their failure rate on the past Vertex drives has been atrociousness. I had one that lasted a year, got a Samsung and it has been MUCH faster. And I can go over 80% without slowdowns...
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I really wasn't going for reliability. Plus it was on sale for $50.
Sorry OP for going off topic
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I really wasn't going for reliability. Plus it was on sale for $50.
Sorry OP for going off topic
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Nah this is a good subject. Just to note that although it's all NAND, phone's flash grade is probably the lowest, and shouldn't really be compared to SATA III SSDs. I've been using SandForce based in my laptop, it's been almost three years, still reads/writes at about 250MB/s. It's SATA II only.
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OCZ isn't very good. For one thing, their failure rate on the past Vertex drives has been atrociousness. I had one that lasted a year, got a Samsung and it has been MUCH faster. And I can go over 80% without slowdowns...
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I've had 3 OCZ SSDs, beginning around 3 years ago. None of them have failed yet. Anecdotal evidence is just that.
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I've had 3 OCZ SSDs, beginning around 3 years ago. None of them have failed yet. Anecdotal evidence is just that.
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Hi guys,
I've just purchased a archos 101 and am "reasonably" happy with it... I wanted something to browse the web in a comfortable way without having to boot my PC.
Now I know I shouldn't expect wonders for the price I payed but I would like to get your input on following points:
- browsing is kinda choppy when scrolling. Not really a big deal but off course a smoother experience would be nice so if there are solutions here I would like to hear them I don't know if another browser might make a difference?
- video playback: this is a complaint from the misses , she was going to make a chocolate cake and wanted to view the "howto" movie online. It started up but was really choppy (this is the link to the movie: http://www.vt4.be/videos/chocoladetaart). I don't know if you guys can play this video smoothly with whatever setup you have?
I don't know the resolution of the video (I know the 101 can handle 720p) but if the resolution is higher is there a way to play it in lower resolution somehow without a lot of pre-video-watching-actions?
PS The video played back nicely on my HTC Desire with Redux 1.2 ROM (gingerbread)
What's the advice for this tablet in general to get the full potential out of it? Is installing urukdroid a must or are there other options?
PS I've set power management already to "overdrive"
Thx
B
Archos still doesn't have a GPU-accelerated version of Flash, so Flash playback in the Browser is a bit rough. I usually find that it's acceptable once you put it into fullscreen mode. Also, that video was fairly high res for Flash, usually I'm watching stuff through youtube at 360p, so you may want to test with some lower quality videos, and don't forget to go into fullscreen mode.
IIRC, there is no way to make the system capable of playing videos over 1280x720. I use Handbrake on my PC to downsample any of my 1080p stuff, but obviously it takes time to reencode. You could use something like TVersity to recode on-the-fly, but I always found it to be a PITA.
Installing Uruk isn't a must by any means, but I like to theme my device and do alot of other stuff that requires R/W access to the system. Performance is better in some ways as well, such as having ext4 partitions instead of the stock squashfs, but it's not a huge difference. Uruk also has advantages such as Ad-Hoc wifi connnections, better phone tethering compatibility, support for DVB, etc.
Overall though, if you just use it to browse the web, I don't think you'll see much difference with Urukdroid. Doesn't mean I don't recommend it though.
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IIRC, there is no way to make the system capable of playing videos over 1280x720.
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I know what you mean, but you can play 1080p on your Archos, but extreeeeemly slowly, around 0.3-0.5 frames pro second
@msticninja : did the video play ok on your device or was it jerky?
I've been experimenting a bit with browsers and so far opera mobile (not mini) seems to be the smoothest... if you activate "opera turbo" it's even faster but pictures are lower quality
I've tried stock browser, opera mini, opera mobile, dolphin HD and Skyfire
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It was pretty jerky. When she was just standing talking it wasn't bad, but once 50% or more of the pixels were changing on each frame, it skipped badly until the movement settled down. It's just too high res for the flash optimization. You can either try to watch lower res vids, which I know is hard in this situation, or you can try to use a Download Helper to download the flash video, then play it in the stock Video Player. Should be no skipping there with the hardware acceleration.
Eventually, someone will either hack together or legitimately release a hardware-accelerated version of Flash for our Gen8 devices, and that should make it drastically better. At least I hope someone will.
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Eventually, someone will either hack together or legitimately release a hardware-accelerated version of Flash for our Gen8 devices, and that should make it drastically better. At least I hope someone will.
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I watched that video on my desktop computer and my quad core processor went to 25% on all 4 cores and had burst download speeds of 1Mbyte/s so watching this on a single core non optimized flash will be a disaster.
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I watched that video on my desktop computer and my quad core processor went to 25% on all 4 cores and had burst download speeds of 1Mbyte/s so watching this on a single core non optimized flash will be a disaster.
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what I don't understand then is that this video played perfectly on my desire... I know the desire is a great device but what's the difference compared to the archos?
berre said:
what I don't understand then is that this video played perfectly on my desire... I know the desire is a great device but what's the difference compared to the archos?
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Hardware acceleration enabled flash maybe.
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Hardware acceleration enabled flash maybe.
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Yes, the GPU acceleration makes a huge difference, more than I thought it should, until I realized that GPUs process data differently, with multiple cores/threads, and the fact that they're designed solely to pump out pixels, not numbers. (Yes, I know that's kind of an idiosyncrasy)
If we get GPU acceleration, it would probably be capable of playing flash games even.
update: just installed Flash Player 10.2.156.12 instead of 10.3 and there is big improvement in the video! it's still a bit choppy but much much more "viewable"
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Anybody notice the incredibly high-bitrate on files recorded with the X2's camera app? I'm getting videos with bitrates at about 11 Mbps. Just a 7 minute at 720p video is over 700 MB. The X2's camera certainly can't record at this high rate... can it? The huge bitrate seems also to block the I/O so recording to SD card is near impossible and often causes the video FPS to drop and audio to desync.
Anybody know of a way to tame this bitrate?
Thats HD for ya. Your 11Mpbs = 1.375 MB/s. Not unheard of for 720 by any means. I did about 30min of concert footage at close to 2MB/s (16mbps.) The card that came with the phone can have issues, Class 4 8GB in my case, but faster cards are fine. I run an older Sandisk Class 6 with no issues recording at 720P. Onboard, flash, storage has a better write value and should handle video fine, for SD Cards its recommended to have a Class 6 in most cases, as many Class 4's fail to handle full speed of the DX2's 720p recording.
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Thats HD for ya. Your 11Mpbs = 1.375 MB/s. Not unheard of for 720 by any means. I did about 30min of concert footage at close to 2MB/s (16mbps.) The card that came with the phone can have issues, Class 4 8GB in my case, but faster cards are fine. I run an older Sandisk Class 6 with no issues recording at 720P. Onboard, flash, storage has a better write value and should handle video fine, for SD Cards its recommended to have a Class 6 in most cases, as many Class 4's fail to handle full speed of the DX2's 720p recording.
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I'm aware high-bitrates are common in HD, however I can re-encode my phone's video at about half the bitrate and get nearly indistinguishable output. I'm concerned about I/O merely because it has troubles writing even when writing to the internal (non SD) memory. Constant de-sync issues I have to manage in post production.
I'm using lgCamcorder for this because it allows you to set the bitrate (which according to the app defaults at 13 Mbps), I cut it down to five and I personally can't tell the difference and I don't get the stuttering and a/v desync anymore.
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I'm using lgCamcorder for this because it allows you to set the bitrate (which according to the app defaults at 13 Mbps), I cut it down to five and I personally can't tell the difference and I don't get the stuttering and a/v desync anymore.
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I'm having some issues installing lgCamera on my X2. It downloads and installs from the Market, but when I open the app it claims it couldn't be found or loaded.
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I'm having some issues installing lgCamera on my X2. It downloads and installs from the Market, but when I open the app it claims it couldn't be found or loaded.
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After it installed, it is two separate icons (one for camera and one for video), I know clicking on the successfully installed link from the notification bar goes nowhere so maybe the links didn't install right. If you haven't done so, I'd uninstall and try reinstalling it because I did not have issues with either the free or paid version.
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After it installed, it is two separate icons (one for camera and one for video), I know clicking on the successfully installed link from the notification bar goes nowhere so maybe the links didn't install right. If you haven't done so, I'd uninstall and try reinstalling it because I did not have issues with either the free or paid version.
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Yep. That was the issue. Thanks for recommending lgCamera. Looks like a great alternative.
JUST opened it 10min! I will add random things ive added and done to it,here. And will update regularly. Anyone wants me to try something, let me kno.
1. Ran antutu bench and got 10030 on the "balanced" mode! Took a hunch, switched it to " normal" mode and got a 10807!!! To put it in perspective, my a500 OCd to 1408mhz got me 5600.
2...SSOOOO thin.... i own an ipad2and i can feel the difference.
3. Installed tune in radio..speakers are nice! More base than my a500. Not meant to fill a living room full of music, but works great in a small room.
4. Glow room was smooth running and touchy, even while i was downloading gunbros update and tunein radio on pause in the background......oh yeah, still have it in " normal mode"
5.. just got interupted with a firmware update. Rebooting.....
6... wifi seems normal to me when comparing to my a500. Dboth have 2 of 4 bars 30ft from att router through 2 walls. Downloaded gunbros update with no issue. Also ran netflix 60ft from router with no issues. This time router upstairs Prime downstairs.
7... riptide is awesome...gunbros seems the same.
8..camera is nice. Pic i took was pretty close to what you see on your screen. No noticeable color changes (no flash involved).
9.. not too impressed with video camera. Only did a few secs on 1080and 720. Moved around and still get slight hesitations, unlike iphones. Maybe its the software and ICS will b better.
10...browser is browsing is a little herkyjerky. I used both opera and dolphin hd and both felt like they " hung " for afew sec before continuing on. I use these 2 browsers more than the stock because i have more consistant video file downloads with them. Downloading a 1.65 gig video. Let you knowhow it does.
11.. downloaded a 2gb 1080p mkv video file with the tablet and played it with MX Player on HW mode. Played flawlessly. My a500 would have had to use SW fast mode and still wouldnt have played an mkv file larger than 700mb smoothly. AWESOME!
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JUST opened it 10min! I will add random things ive added and done to it,here. And will update regularly. Anyone wants me to try something, let me kno.
1. Ran antutu bench and got 10030 on the "balanced" mode! Took a hunch, switched it to " normal" mode and got a 10807!!! To put it in perspective, my a500 OCd to 1408mhz got me 5600.
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Just wait until Tegra3 gets OCed!
Root, the apply OTA update (if available), see if root sticks...
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Swiftks said:
Root, the apply OTA update (if available), see if root sticks...
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Sorry, i dont intend toroot until ICS update.
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JUST opened it 10min! I will add random things ive added and done to it,here. And will update regularly. Anyone wants me to try something, let me kno.
1. Ran antutu bench and got 10030 on the "balanced" mode! Took a hunch, switched it to " normal" mode and got a 10807!!! To put it in perspective, my a500 OCd to 1408mhz got me 5600.
2...SSOOOO thin....
3. Installed tune in radio..speakers are nice! More base than my a500. Not meant to fill a living room full of music, but works great in a small room.
4. Glow room was smooth running and touchy, even while i was downloading gunbros update and tunein radio on pause in the background......oh yeah, still have it in " normal mode"
5.. just got interupted with a firmware update. Rebooting.....
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Wow! That benchmark of your a500 OC compared to Prime is sick. Might be an indicator of how prime will hold up to newer dual cores over clocked or higher speeds . That isnt even a small jump, it's a MAJOR improvement. Great first impressions. Can't wait to get mines tomorrow, hopefully, or Friday. Keep us updated. Also if you notice any wifi or gps issues. I'm trying to gauge if those issues are affecting everyone or not.
Have you downloaded OnLive for it yet?
Just to put that in further perspective, I've overclocked my Galaxy Tab 8.9 LTE (SGH-1957) to 1.94Ghz (it's a APQ8060 Snapdragon, stock at 1.5GHz) and my best Antutu was 7478. At stock 1.5GHz, I score around 6200. Tegra 3 at 1.4GHz is cleaning my clock though, and the TP at the top of the Antutu charts (at 1.6GHz) is doubling my stock scores.
Oh did the retail TP come with riptide, glowball, shadowgun, ect or was that jusst a tester builder version that came with the games? Thanks!
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Oh did the retail TP come with riptide, glowball, shadowgun, ect or was that jusst a tester builder version that came with the games? Thanks!
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Came with CK Zombies, Glowball and Riptide demo only. No shadowgun. Mine is a BestBuy order, 32gb, grey.
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Oh did the retail TP come with riptide, glowball, shadowgun, ect or was that jusst a tester builder version that came with the games? Thanks!
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If you buy from gamestop they include the full version of these games.
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9.. not too impressed with video camera. Only did a few secs on 1080and 720. Moved around and still get slight hesitations, unlike iphones. Maybe its the software and ICS will b better.
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It records to the internal memory or to the microSD card?? If it's to the card, check its speed, that may be the issue.
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It records to the internal memory or to the microSD card?? If it's to the card, check its speed, that may be the issue.
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Internal. My 8gb card is a class6.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Has anyone tried it on their rooted Prime? I would love to try it but mine is gone for yet another RMA.
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Has anyone tried it on their rooted Prime? I would love to try it but mine is gone for yet another RMA.
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Nope, but I'm just about to. I'll report back. Nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
Installed on my Stock but rooted prime now. Appears to eliminate all the stock browser lag I used to have. It's now blazing fast, and I can scroll while its still loading stuff which I was never able to do before. Holy mother of all fixes it seems like:good:
I installed it last night on my prime. It does lot for my prime. I also did some of the early investigation to what was really being fixed by this hack. I am glad Cyanogen has confirmed some of my theories. If you are rooted I would highly recommend installing it.
-l4k
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Nope, but I'm just about to. I'll report back. Nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
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Tried this and also read up a bit on what it does. Unfortunately I don't think what this tries to do is an issue on the Prime. This basically makes sure there is always random data available for apps from a location that will block if there's none available. However, when I ran a command that was constantly consuming all the random data (cat /dev/random > /dev null), I could see that the random data was getting consumed but it wasn't causing a perceptibly adverse effect on anything else.
I also just ran the app for a while, and I didn't notice anything being more responsive. It will consume extra battery though.
Take look at my write up on the Google bug. That is what the author originally thought the problem was. What is probably going on is kernel lock contention due to the code that generates entropy when the pool is depleted.
Installed it just now, no discernible effect. Quick reboot... Chameleon launcher, app switching, Chrome, all smooth as butter. I am gobsmacked! I think have a feeling this works well for me because of the number of connections made by Chameleon, logged in accounts (I have 9 accounts logged in at all times) and apps syncing that I regularly exhaust the block device. Add to our already slow IO, any blocking at the kernel level will be multipled.
Going to monitor it some more and report back on battery life and any further observations. Thanks for the share! :good:
To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
xxbeanxx said:
To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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it has no effect on any benchmarks so its hard to quantify. for my use it does not make a discernible difference in anything I do with my prime is about the best data you can get.
It has no effect whatsoever: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
Will give it a try.
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To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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It has no effect whatsoever: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
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I have done some benchmarks and it makes no difference to those whatsoever. This bothers me because I can't understand if this is supposed to do nothing, how does my device run orders of magnitude snappier all the time while running this compared with intermittent lag that I usually get (for example: waiting 1-3 seconds for the recent app list to show normally vs instant with this mod) . The CPU governor can't be it: I set cpu to max and use the performance governor and I still have massive lag. I have tried numerous things for I/O: different schedulers, different mount options to reduce writes on reads and improve write speed ie. noatime, nodiratime, discard, and nothing works! I have tried to narrow down a single process that causes the lag, no dice. I know I only have just under 2 days of testing behind me and yes I only have anecdotal evidence but I have been running this a long enough time with absolutely zero lag that I can't say it makes no difference for me. I'll continue testing but so far it has been too long to be placebo IMO.
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I have done some benchmarks and it makes no difference to those whatsoever. This bothers me because I can't understand if this is supposed to do nothing, how does my device run orders of magnitude snappier all the time while running this compared with intermittent lag that I usually get (for example: waiting 1-3 seconds for the recent app list to show normally vs instant with this mod) . The CPU governor can't be it: I set cpu to max and use the performance governor and I still have massive lag. I have tried numerous things for I/O: different schedulers, different mount options to reduce writes on reads and improve write speed ie. noatime, nodiratime, discard, and nothing works! I have tried to narrow down a single process that causes the lag, no dice. I know I only have just under 2 days of testing behind me and yes I only have anecdotal evidence but I have been running this a long enough time with absolutely zero lag that I can't say it makes no difference for me. I'll continue testing but so far it has been too long to be placebo IMO.
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Haha benchmarks dont equate to real life performance. Benchmark scores have been decreasing since gingerbread even though the new software makes everything faster
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The reason why your device *feels* snappier is because constant I/O activity ensures the CPU will remain at rather high clocks, producing the effect of a smoother experience at the expense of massive battery drain. The explanation of increasing the entropy does nothing by itself, you could cause a lot of I/O activity to anywhere in the emmc and it would produce a similar effect.
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ian1 said:
Haha benchmarks dont equate to real life performance. Benchmark scores have been decreasing since gingerbread even though the new software makes everything faster
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Indeed. That was my point, benchmark results were unchanged but user experience is different. Hrrrm
Didn't do anything for me. Uninstalled it.
Thanks for finding this
I was skeptical as many are about this. I did not see any improvement in Quadrant scores. I installed this for one reason only and it works!
I stream .m4v movies from my NAS drive to my TV through my TP. Before this was installed I would have problems with stuttering no matter what player I tried. Sometimes I would have problems right away, and depending on the player/movie I could watch about an hour before the stuttering/lag begins. I have been beyond frustrated, especially since my wife has an IPad 2 that plays the same movies flawlessly.
Since installing this I can now play my movies without a hitch. I don't know why, but it works. I only use it for this purpose as my other testing showed no major difference. I turn it off when I am not watching movies as I have read that the battery drain is increased.
I streamed 3 movies this weekend without a problem and 2 of them were back to back and I only used approx 35% battery.
Running AndroWook 1.51 and with 1.6 oc kernal.
f'n around said:
I was skeptical as many are about this. I did not see any improvement in Quadrant scores. I installed this for one reason only and it works!
I stream .m4v movies from my NAS drive to my TV through my TP. Before this was installed I would have problems with stuttering no matter what player I tried. Sometimes I would have problems right away, and depending on the player/movie I could watch about an hour before the stuttering/lag begins. I have been beyond frustrated, especially since my wife has an IPad 2 that plays the same movies flawlessly.
Since installing this I can now play my movies without a hitch. I don't know why, but it works. I only use it for this purpose as my other testing showed no major difference. I turn it off when I am not watching movies as I have read that the battery drain is increased.
I streamed 3 movies this weekend without a problem and 2 of them were back to back and I only used approx 35% battery.
Running AndroWook 1.51 and with 1.6 oc kernal.
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+ 1 here. Running last JB update + rooted, wasn't able to play heavy games since the update to JB when we lost the OC kernel from ICS, games were laggy, freezing,almost unplayable. After seeder.apk installation, <i am again able to play NOVA 3, Batman, Spiderman, Asåhalt 7, without any lag and high FPS, seems even better than when my Prime was on ICS OC to 1600. I don't care about what people say but what I experience o preformance, this is something I've learnt after all those years using Android devices. Give it try expecially if you run heavy apps. Battery is a bit worse, but who cares when the prime isnot overheating and run a lot better.
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I want to install it too, but as I understand there is no root for current JB yet, or am I wrong?!
as the uninstall?
Does anyone play this on there XZU?
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Does anyone play this on there XZU?
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I do, and it plays lagless on mine, at everything maxed up.
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I do, and it plays lagless on mine, at everything maxed up.
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That's cool it's not bad on mine aswell. Mainly though not sure if it's allowed bit looking for same saves as lost mine. And if you no of any cheats for it? Delete the post if not allowed
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methodbeat said:
I do, and it plays lagless on mine, at everything maxed up.
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Hmm, are you sure? Rockstar has allegedly capped San Andreas at 30 FPS on both Android and iOS. It doesn't run well at max on the Nexus 5, Nexus 7, iPad Retina and the iPhone 5S, and they all lag when you (for example) drive along and do a 360 turn. Set everything to low, you'll still get 30 FPS. Set everything to High, you'll still get 30 FPS and even down to 10-15 FPS. The game is extremely badly coded.
Chris Nacca have tested SA on all the devices i've mentioned, and you can check out his video here. Also, check out his other GTA:SA videos and you'll see that it doesn't run well at all. I'm not saying that it's unplayable, but it could've been much much better.
All I did was the first few missions but everything was on max settings.
Didn't seem choppy or anything, not that I tried that out ^,
I'll have to test that once I find my OTG Cable(can't stand touch controls).
Not running smooth on galaxy s4 with eveything on max.
There will probably be some .set files coming, just as vice city.
The problem is "lagless" is such an open term that what is lagging for me is not lagging for someone else.
With that said, it has to be laggy if you really have all at max, specially with shadows advanced, etc
Horrible coding but some tweaks to settings makes it playable though.
Yup, some people might not complain if they get 20 FPS, but that's not even close to running smooth. It has to be constantly over 30 for it to be "smooth", but 50-60 would be a lot better.
San Andreas lagging has nothing to do with our hardware. Rockstar has been lazy again. Just check Vice City. It would probably run like crap on a top of the line i7 with 128 GB of RAM.
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