Hello,
I've never rooted a device before, so please forgive me should I come across stupid
I've got a Nexus 4 and had 4.2.1 installed and after playing with it, I decided to root. Which I did using Nexus Root Toolkit v1.6.1, and it worked great!
Just a couple of questions, after I unlocked the bootloader to gain my root access, do I then need to lock it again?
Also, if Google release a new Android version (4.2.2, 4.3, 5.0 etc) will installing that OTA update remove my root access? And to install that update, would the bootloader need to be locked?
Thanks!
nd290 said:
Hello,
I've never rooted a device before, so please forgive me should I come across stupid
I've got a Nexus 4 and had 4.2.1 installed and after playing with it, I decided to root. Which I did using Nexus Root Toolkit v1.6.1, and it worked great!
Just a couple of questions, after I unlocked the bootloader to gain my root access, do I then need to lock it again?
Also, if Google release a new Android version (4.2.2, 4.3, 5.0 etc) will installing that OTA update remove my root access? And to install that update, would the bootloader need to be locked?
Thanks!
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No you dont need to relock the bootloader, thats what you unlock to gain root access. If google release a new version of their OS you will be able to flash it as a custom rom from the development section of your device, so ota wouldnt be needed, and plus you cant do ota updates if your device is rooted anyway.
Hope i could be of some help
xmrenegade7 said:
No you dont need to relock the bootloader, thats what you unlock to gain root access. If google release a new version of their OS you will be able to flash it as a custom rom from the development section of your device, so ota wouldnt be needed, and plus you cant do ota updates if your device is rooted anyway.
Hope i could be of some help
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Not strickly true at least on the nexus 7 after rooting and installing cwm you can still install ota updates as cwm will reroot and prevent a new recovery being flashed as the update is installed, this is what I have done with all ota updates.
So if you have cwm and it has this feature all is good
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Ah okay. I've never used the nexus devices before I'm just going on previous experience with other phones but its nice to learn something new
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xmrenegade7 said:
No you dont need to relock the bootloader, thats what you unlock to gain root access. If google release a new version of their OS you will be able to flash it as a custom rom from the development section of your device, so ota wouldnt be needed, and plus you cant do ota updates if your device is rooted anyway.
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Thanks for your help, that is useful
If I were to flash a rom, would it erase all my data such as apps, settings, pics etc?
It will only delete apps and stuff if you do a full wipe. Most roms require a full wipe if its the first time you install it, use an app called titanium backup to backup your apps and data then just recover your apps and data after installing the new rom.
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I dont want to unlock the bootloader, just root the device so i can get titanium backup running again. Had 4.1.1 rooted and forgot to install root keeper and then upgraded to 4.1.2 and now need root again. Cant find anything on the site regarding this so not sure if its even possible yet. thanks for any help.
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41243013
This is not new development. Please post in the q and a section. Thank you kindly. not being mean, just for future reference buddy. We've all made this mistake once or twice
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vtec2k7 said:
I dont want to unlock the bootloader, just root the device so i can get titanium backup running again. Had 4.1.1 rooted and forgot to install root keeper and then upgraded to 4.1.2 and now need root again. Cant find anything on the site regarding this so not sure if its even possible yet. thanks for any help.
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Why not unlock the boot loader there is always a Oden to complete stock with locked boot loader so u can return ice returned 2 phones with unlocked boot loaders and never had a issue even one even a MAXX HD lol and one note 2 as long add there's no root they return them. Not having your BL unlocked limits u quite a bit Its your phone just curious
I used casual, and did everything, root unlock and custom recovery
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There's no way to root without Odin of root66 just like last build. Expect casual of course and as stated this is the wrong section so I went ahead and reported it for you so adev can move it. Just keep the sections in mind for future posts please.
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Hi guys,
I'm looking for a root that does only that: give me root access.
Is CASUAL really the only possible way to achieve root? If so, is it necessary that it unlocks the boot-loader and installs custom recovery to achieve this?
I probably wouldn't mind except that I'd like to just be able to do OTA updates as available, which I hear is not possible after running casual, and I really don't want to fiddle with custom ROMs as the stock Note 2 one works so well for me.
Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions...
-Paul
PaulusGrandis said:
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a root that does only that: give me root access.
Is CASUAL really the only possible way to achieve root? If so, is it necessary that it unlocks the boot-loader and installs custom recovery to achieve this?
I probably wouldn't mind except that I'd like to just be able to do OTA updates as available, which I hear is not possible after running casual, and I really don't want to fiddle with custom ROMs as the stock Note 2 one works so well for me.
Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions...
-Paul
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Odin and root66 will root your phone. If you recieve a OTA while rooted it will get rid of your root completely and you will have to re-root your phone, it also has the potential to do some wonky **** to it (ive even heard of bricks happening because of being rooted and accepting the OTA).
Once your bootloader is unlocked you wouldnt have to flash roms if you didnt want to unless you wanted to update to a new OTA.
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Hi hello i am running 4 1 1 version of android on my device and i would like to update it on latest version. Now if i update i loose all my programs ? Do i loose my root access and if so i can re root it back again with the new version of software ?
Now if i want to install a cusrom rom i think i loose my programs and i need to download them all again i assume and i need also to root that rom also ? Or is already rooted cos is custom rom ? Thank you and sorry if inpost in wromg place or even for neelwbie questions
Love and Light TeO!
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italianveins said:
Hi hello i am running 4 1 1 version of android on my device and i would like to update it on latest version. Now if i update i loose all my programs ? Do i loose my root access and if so i can re root it back again with the new version of software ?
Now if i want to install a cusrom rom i think i loose my programs and i need to download them all again i assume and i need also to root that rom also ? Or is already rooted cos is custom rom ? Thank you and sorry if inpost in wromg place or even for neelwbie questions
Love and Light TeO!
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If you update via OTA after rooting, you WILL lose root. You may however root it again (provided rooting methods are available for the newer software version). You may or may not lose your apps (depending on the type of OTA update) after the update. So make sure to do a good backup first!
Flashing a custom ROM will almost always require you to do a full wipe (or format) of your phone, which will remove all your apps as well as personal data (excluding your files). You DON'T NEED to root custom ROMs, they are already rooted.
And yes, you have asked in the right place.
So thank yoi very much for ykir reply and thank you for ur time
I am happy i ask in right place of the forum
MERRY XMASS TO ALL !
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Hello and Happy holidays to all , I am currently on 4.2.1 stock rooted . Do I fxz back to stock and get ota then root , or is there some other steps I have to take. I am reading and hearing that My boot loader will get locked or I wont receive update phone will say it has been modified.
xan3x said:
Hello and Happy holidays to all , I am currently on 4.2.1 stock rooted . Do I fxz back to stock and get ota then root , or is there some other steps I have to take. I am reading and hearing that My boot loader will get locked or I wont receive update phone will say it has been modified.
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If you take the official OTA you will definitely get a locked bootloader, and lose root. Root may be possible down the road but there are no guarantees. If you want to ensure root and an unlocked bootloader you need to follow the directions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578458
Is there going to be a zip I can flash in twrp to up date with out having to be on a rom just on the 4.3.1 I don't have access to a computer and never used odin some help would be nice this my first Samsung all I my other phones were moto and we're different doing the updates
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My question is I think I want to jump to 4.3, but I'm not sure how. I am stock rooted with locked bootloader. I'm still on 4.1.1 with VRALJB. I was always satisfied with the stock rom so never saw the point in unlocking the bootloader. What is the easiest way for me to update since I'm really not interested in root access anymore?
My question is why would you want to go the VZW 4.3 OTA? As previously mentioned, you'll lose root access, end up with a locked bootloader,and likely get a bunch of bloatware. There's plenty of 4.3 custom ROMs out there that will do much more for your device.
I dont want that. I'm new to the note 2. I've been on moto phones with locked bootloaders. So I've not had to worry bout locking down my bootloader until now. Ive rooted my note 2 and installed roms on it. Im just trying to find a update that I can use with out installing a rom in order to get to 4.3 1.
I've never used odin and don't have access to a computer right now. In starting to think that i can't get to 4.3.1 with out a computer. Was just hoping I could use twrp to flash a mod version of the update to get there
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kkemp31 said:
I dont want that. I'm new to the note 2. I've been on moto phones with locked bootloaders. So I've not had to worry bout locking down my bootloader until now. Ive rooted my note 2 and installed roms on it. Im just trying to find a update that I can use with out installing a rom in order to get to 4.3 1.
I've never used odin and don't have access to a computer right now. In starting to think that i can't get to 4.3.1 with out a computer. Was just hoping I could use twrp to flash a mod version of the update to get there
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So far I have not seen any reference to a recovery flashable firmware file...odin only. That said, with a computer, odin is really easy to use so when you get to a PC you can do it in about 3 minutes.
So can I just do the mod update and not have to install the rom or it a package deal ? Just asking cuz with the razor all I had to do was the update .
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Hello,
I currently own a rooted/unlocked Nexus 5 smartphone and my carrier just pushed me the new android 4.4.3 update and it's been a while since I've been in this situation (get update while running andoird with root access).
My questions are the following:
- If I remeber well from last time I had this situation with my galaxy nexus, installing 4.4.3 will not harm my phone, it will still be unlocked, no data will be lost but I won't have root access anymore nor be able to use apps that require root. Is this correct?
- Is there a way (or will there be a way that I should patiently wait for) to get the 4.4.3 update, whithout loosing data or root access? Last time, I installed the pushed update, lost root, had to wait for the tool I used to be updated, then had to root the phone again and lost all the data (yes I saved most of it but still is a pain in the arse to redo everything).
I am aware that the version just came out and I have no problem waiting for amazing devs to do their mojo, I was just wondering if updating rooted versions was possible without data loss and I should wait for it or if I will have to root the phone again ^^.
Thanks in advance for your answers
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magnusnet said:
Hello,
I currently own a rooted/unlocked Nexus 5 smartphone and my carrier just pushed me the new android 4.4.3 update and it's been a while since I've been in this situation (get update while running andoird with root access).
My questions are the following:
- If I remeber well from last time I had this situation with my galaxy nexus, installing 4.4.3 will not harm my phone, it will still be unlocked, no data will be lost but I won't have root access anymore nor be able to use apps that require root. Is this correct?
- Is there a way (or will there be a way that I should patiently wait for) to get the 4.4.3 update, whithout loosing data or root access? Last time, I installed the pushed update, lost root, had to wait for the tool I used to be updated, then had to root the phone again and lost all the data (yes I saved most of it but still is a pain in the arse to redo everything).
I am aware that the version just came out and I have no problem waiting for amazing devs to do their mojo, I was just wondering if updating rooted versions was possible without data loss and I should wait for it or if I will have to root the phone again ^^.
Thanks in advance for your answers
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SEE THIS : http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5
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f4ltu said:
SEE THIS : http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/flashing-4-4-3-wipe-t2772376 <= you mean this? Thanks anyways for the link to that forum, the xda app makes things difficult to find in the forums.
I have Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 which was recently upgraded to Lollipop (5.0.1). The phone was not rooted. I am looking for a way to root it now. Any suggestion, instructions?
IRamzayI said:
I have Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 which was recently upgraded to Lollipop (5.0.1). The phone was not rooted. I am looking for a way to root it now. Any suggestion, instructions?
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There's no root yet.
can we downgrade it? if yes than how?
zohaibsial said:
can we downgrade it? if yes than how?
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No u cant
Forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask, but I just updated my Verizon GS4 to 5.0.1 using the OTA updates and I can boot into both the recovery and download modes. If i can boot into these what's stopping me from just flashing a new ROM in the download mode (it explicitly says this mode is used to install a custom OS) or applying an update from my external storage in the recovery mode?
Thanks!
Hello I am working on a root method for SCH-I545 and I was wondering if anyone can help me get the stock kernel for oc1....
Any help is appreciated
I had a stock kernel somewhere on my pc. I will see if i can find it.
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joey#erenko said:
Hello I am working on a root method for SCH-I545 and I was wondering if anyone can help me get the stock kernel for oc1....
Any help is appreciated
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peterfran2112 said:
Forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask, but I just updated my Verizon GS4 to 5.0.1 using the OTA updates and I can boot into both the recovery and download modes. If i can boot into these what's stopping me from just flashing a new ROM in the download mode (it explicitly says this mode is used to install a custom OS) or applying an update from my external storage in the recovery mode?
Thanks!
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You can go ahead and do that but you will probably brick your phone. Steps to flashing a custom OS is usually, root your phone and then unlocking the bootloader. After unlocking then you can install a custom recovery image. From the recovery you can flash custom OS and kernels. I believe the custom OS you are talking about is for an OS that is straight from Verizon. I wouldn't dare flash any ROM from Cyanogen, or Liquid or ASOP etc through the built in recovery of the phone. That's why you install a custom recovery from TWRP or Clockwork. It's your phone so you go ahead and do what you like, if it does work, well hell, let me know. Good luck.
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I tried to root after I installed lollipop OTA. Root checker said I wasn't rooted. It's then I found out I made a big mistake. After
a charge up the other night I turned my phone back on & noticed the lock symbol in the screen showed the unlocked lock.
Now my question is ....... is my phone unlocked , or is it just there is no bootloader that can gain access to the system?
All help with this is welcome!
Now that I think about it I realize what's happening. The phone unlocked the boot loader won't give me access to the system.
Boy it feels like I'm at the gate but can't get in.
traco1 said:
Now that I think about it I realize what's happening. The phone unlocked the boot loader won't give me access to the system.
Boy it feels like I'm at the gate but can't get in.
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Your bootloader isn't unlocked. There's not even a root method for this OC1 OTA. Samsung and Verizon have locked the bootloader permanently since 4.3 Jelly Bean. No bootloader has been unlocked since. None! There's a whole lot more technicalities to unlocking the bootloader than simply rooting. Chances are u may have tripped your KNOX counter, meaning your warranty is void. And it's irreversible.
So...VRUGOC1 OTA Update = NO CUSTOM ROM, RECOVERY, UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER, ROOT, OR DOWNGRADE.
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Your bootloader isn't unlocked. There's not even a root method for this OC1 OTA. Samsung and Verizon have locked the bootloader permanently since 4.3 Jelly Bean. No bootloader has been unlocked since. None! There's a whole lot more technicalities to unlocking the bootloader than simply rooting. Chances are u may have tripped your KNOX counter, meaning your warranty is void. And it's irreversible.
So...VRUGOC1 OTA Update = NO CUSTOM ROM, RECOVERY, UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER, ROOT, OR DOWNGRADE.
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OK Let me backup. I guess I typed this improperly without thinking.
I realize that this is a very technical process to unlock phones . I also realize that there is not a method @ THIS TIME to gain root access to th S4.
Let me start over.
Before I received the OTA update I had tried Towel Root with no success. Then after I got th OTA I tried Odin without success. Now I did not know at the time time there wasn't an available method to root. Shortly after research I found out.
I have read root is not the problem but the is no way to unlock the bootloader. I just noticed the unlock symbol & had to question it.
I could give a damn if my warranty is void .I have 1 rooted phone. My be the other some time down the road ?
Good news!!!
Try rooting with kingroot app 4.1 and you will be surprised.
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XeroXid said:
Good news!!!
Try rooting with kingroot app 4.1 and you will be surprised.
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On their xda page (edit - thread) , doesn't mention the s4 as a phone this works on, have you tried it?
It works
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I have also tried and Root access have been made with kingroot 4.1 on S4 5.0.1
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And Knox does not trip
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So... Bootloader still locked?
I tried to install cwm but no changes.
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SEARCH BEFORE POSTING EVERYTHING ASKED IN THIS THREAD HAS BEEN COVERED
THERE IS NO CUSTOM RECOVERY FOR VERSION'S GALAXY S4 PERIOD
the only thing you can do is root and install safe-strap
then your options for roms are as follows
1: kitpop 1.3 <Which is the only ASOP Rom
2: or Hyperdrive Rls20
Those two are your ONLY Options
if you took the OTA you will be unable to downgrade to NC5 which is the only possible candidate for getting custom kernels to boot which hasn't happened yet
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Your bootloader isn't unlocked. There's not even a root method for this OC1 OTA. Samsung and Verizon have locked the bootloader permanently since 4.3 Jelly Bean. No bootloader has been unlocked since. None! There's a whole lot more technicalities to unlocking the bootloader than simply rooting. Chances are u may have tripped your KNOX counter, meaning your warranty is void. And it's irreversible.
So...VRUGOC1 OTA Update = NO CUSTOM ROM, RECOVERY, UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER, ROOT, OR DOWNGRADE.
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Soo................................ Yea My s4 is rooted & the bootloader is unlocked ......................Yea.